Include images in your set reviews

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Midi-Scale Imperial Star Destroyer

The site update I made just after Christmas added the ability to include images in your reviews. Now, at last, the first one (that I've noticed) to use them to good effect has been posted. So, thanks to go LegoDad42 for posting this excellent review of the midi Star Destroyer. Please, let's have more like this (so we can give EuroBricks a run for its money... :-) )

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By in Philippines,

Is it sort of a freestyle review then? Or do we still need to follow the outlines provided herein? :-)

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By in Germany,

*Rolls eyes* I would put images in my reviews... if it wasn't for the fact that you need to host the images somewhere else. A "browse" button to upload images in the review would be helpful. LOL, "...we can give EuroBricks a run for its money..." :)

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By in United States,

It would be nice to see Brickset and Eurobricks collaborate when it comes to reviews. Eurobricks has a good chunk of reviews, however it can be challenging to find a review that you're looking for.

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By in Israel,

Trust me, I'll give Eurobricks a run for their money! :D

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By in United States,

Great review, LegoDad42!

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By in Sweden,

"...so we can give EuroBricks a run for its money... :-)"

That's the spirit. Bring 'em on :-)

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By in United Kingdom,

I agree with aaronptrck, I find picture reviews SO much better than just text ones but it's just imposible to find ANYTHING on Eurobricks. I wish all their reviewers should come over here and review - life would be so much easier :)

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By in Germany,

@superkalle10: Hello! :) You're the same "superkalle" from Eurobricks, right? :)

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By in Germany,

@KimT: Oh boy, the Eurobricks heavy-weights are here! :) Hey, can't you make a few reviews here at Brickset? :)

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By in United Kingdom,

Agreed, Huw - a nice review, and hopefully a taste of things to come as the set reviews are not really a strength of Brickset at present.

It'd be great if Brickset set pages contained a hyperlink to the relevant Eurobrick review(s) as there are already many superb, comprehensive reviews over there; Brickset and Eurobricks would complement each other superbly in that regard. KIM T, if you're still reading, would Eurobricks object to that ?

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By in Canada,

@Dr. D, and KimT, of course my comment about EuroBricks was tongue-in-cheek: It is a great resource for pictorial reviews and will continue to be. But I think there is also value in the textual reviews here as well, though: it's good to get the views of multiple people, and often the reviews at EB are little more than a series of pictures and facts and can be light on actual opinion. So they both have their strength and place.

I'd love to be able to add links to EB reviews here, but don't want to go searching for the data: Is there a single page that could be 'scraped' for it, whic could then be saved here and used for the links?

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By in United States,

@Dr. D - Set reviews aren't a strength here? That's the main reason I come to this site! I like the detailed reviews at Eurobricks, but you can't beat the scoring system you get here once 10+ people have chimed in on a set. Typically I'll first check Brickset to see what the consensus is on a set, and then check Eurobricks to see if they have a detailed pictorial review.

My only gripe about reviews here is that I have seen a lot of reviews get flagged as unhelpful mostly because someone doesn't agree with the reviewer's rating. I've had it happen to a few of my reviews, but I've seen it happen on plenty of others when the reviewer takes a less than favorable viewpoint on a popular set. Those who use the 'helpful' question in that fashion are doing a disservice to this site because it will artificially inflate the review scores by eliminating the dissenting opinions. When I visit a site like Amazon one of the first things I do is look for the negative reviews on a product, to see why the people who didn't like a set didn't like it.

One example: I like to buy Creator sets for the parts. So I might give a less than 5 star review if the set is low on plates or other parts that would be useful. Someone who buys the set to build the included models might disagree and love the set. So if they look for low scoring reviews and find mine, but see that the only reason for the low score is the parts aren't useful for MOCs, that review was useful to them even if they personally would disagree with my score.

To me the only use for the 'unhelpful' rating is to weed out the reviews like "This set rockz! best set ever." That isn't helpful because it doesn't tell me why they felt that way. Generally any detailed, accurate review I find helpful, even if I don't personally agree with their conclusions or rating.

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By in Denmark,

I do believe we've got Review Indexes for all forums.
I've been quite busy with the Star Wars Forum, but I'll gladly add any reviews I've done there to the proper sets here.
I'll even ask our members to share their EB reviews here if you'd like me to?

Lemme just track down those review indexes and share a few links here, then you (Huw) can decide wether it's worth the work (and trouble) to look through them for links :-)

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By in Denmark,
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By in United Kingdom,

@ KimT: You missed out the Technic reviews... not sure if they have a list like those though.

Also, I would have taken some photos of recent sets in build for reviews if I'd known that we could include them! I honestly had no idea - and I'm not sure many others did - that that was possible until now.

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By in United Kingdom,

Huw, KimT, meyerc13 - I believe that the Brickset reviews and Eurobricks reviews complement each other very nicely, and hence the value in linking to the EB reviews from the Brickset set pages (and indeed possibly vice versa ?) so that readers can access both sets of reviews with the greatest of ease.

One thing I like about the EB reviews is the degree of quality control, which is generally high in order for a review to make it into the reviews index. Not always, but often. Huw's worked hard to try and address this aspect of Brickset reviews and hence the rating system, but as meyerc13 rightly points out, it isn't perfect. The diversity of reviews and number of opinions is however a strength of the Brickset reviews in my view.

Adding the relevant EB links to the Brickset set pages would likely be somewhat painstaking and time consuming, and would need to be done gradually over time, but I think the additional value it'd bring would make it worthwhile.

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By in United States,

I find it interesting that the number of replies to this news item is so much higher than the number of people who marked LegoDad42's review helpful. Unless there is some lag in calculating that number, I'm only the second person to mark it helpful?

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By in United States,

I was going to do a review like this for The Burrow a couple of weeks ago but found that my camera doesn't have any attention to detail, you couldn't make out the prints/faces on anything except for the torsos, which is a shame because Bellatrix looks quite creepy in a fez.

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By in United Kingdom,

Can you "nick" images other people have posted on EB or other sites? I don't have any stuff to take pictures with, let alone post them anywhere on the internet...

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By in Canada,

Just a small question, on legoDad42's review, there was a badge next to his username. How exactly do you get them? Anyway, I'm thrilled that you can now add pictures. I think I'll get to work writing my Collectible Minifigure & Lego Atlantis reviews over to here. Thanks Huw!

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By in Russian Federation,

Nice idea but I guess the Brickset administration should define the maximum amount of pictures per review otherwise there may be some that include more than 100 photos, like 8404, for instance.

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By in Canada,

Excellent, Kim, thanks. I'll see what I can do with them soon.

@Doctor Leg, no please don't link to other people's photos without their permission.

@I Like Lego, see http://www.brickset.com/about/log/

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By in United Kingdom,

@meyerc13, I was also the second person to mark the review as helpful, so maybe there's lag or a bug !

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By in Canada,

I personally love the reviews here... usually if I find one too bias then I just right a more 'down-to-earth' one of my own. Though the only problem pictures bring to the table is the review's space. Pictures look great and all but they take alot of room. Kinda wish the pictures could be formated like set images or something... that way they appear small and the reader could click to inlarge them.

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By in United States,

DrDaveWatford & @meyer13- I also was the second person to mark it as helpful, twice!

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By in United States,

I love that you can add pictures to your review now. Would be nice if you can only post 2 pictures per review. Pictures are nice and all but the flood the review if there is too many.

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By in United States,

I love that you can add pictures to your review now. Would be nice if you can only post 2 pictures per review. Pictures are nice and all but the flood the review if there is too many.

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By in Finland,

Good addition in itself, but very long reviews make it somewhat bothersome to browse through reviews - if for example I would just want to glance at different people's opinions about 8099 but wouldn't want to read through a very detailed pictorial review, I would have to scroll quite a bit down before I'd find other reviews.

Would it be possible to make "cuts" (that's how they're called in Livejournal entries at least, I believe) in the reviews after some standard mark-amount, so that the rest of the review would be shown only if you'd click for it to be shown? Like:

Read the rest of the review by clicking here.

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By in Sweden,

@Alemas: Yupp, that's me. So I guess the old "adding a 10 at the end of my username" didn't fool you :-)

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By in United Kingdom,

@Berrybrick, DrDaveWatford & meyer13 I was the second person to mark it as helpful too!

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By in United States,

Just scrolled over the review again, and now it looks like 47 out of 47 find it helpful. I think that's a new record (the previous being somthing like 25 out of 33).

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By in Germany,

@Berrybrick: Now it's 51 out of 51! WOW!
@superkalle: LOL, if you don't modify the part of the name behind the "10", you can easily recognise the user! :)

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By in Germany,

Uh, Huw, a bug: when the amount of comments increases, the time it takes to load the article increases too... Articles with over 100 comments take aaaaaaaages to load! Same happens when you post a comment; the more comments, the longer it takes for Brickset to "show" the comment!

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By in United States,

I just go online now...WOW, thanks so much guys for likin' my review! I'm just happy it got posted...;) I thought maybe I put in too many pics and hog up the space. I'm very appreciative to everyone who read the review.

Thanks so much Huw for postin' it up. I noticed too that I think I saw maybe one(?) review with a pic and I thought while I was just startin' to build the Destroyer...let me see if I can do a review in the old 'eurobrick' style.
Thanks Huw for setting the reviews up to do this. I'd love to see others members with pics and details on their favorite sets.

@ Tervlon...thx man. Much appreciate amigo.
@ I like Lego...the badges I believe are people who get like at least 3 outta' 4 favorable reviews? I think that's the minimum. So if you get 5 favorable reviews you get a bronze badge, 10 or more fav. reviews a silver and I think 20+ you get the gold review status...maybe 50+ reviews puts you in platinum status, with free back rubs...;) just kiddin'....

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By in Ireland,

Thats a great addition!

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By in United Kingdom,

More reviews like this please. Great work legoDad42!

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By in Ireland,

@Alemas: a bigger page takes longer to load on your computer? You need a better internet connection mate...

I'm not a fan of reviews that are more picture than text which I why I like the reviews here at Brickset. To me the only relevant picture in that review is the first one under 'build' because it supports the paragraph about the clever construction. Removing all the other pictures would make it a better review in my opinion.

...and yes, I'm a fan of the Grumpy old men series :-P

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By in United States,

oh man. this guy (legodad42) review just made mine obsolete (i wrote mine a few days before his.) He did a good job though. xD

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By in United States,

72 out of 73 People?!?!?!?! I've never seen that high of rating of my almost 4 years of being on Brickset! That one person who put "no" better have slipped! ;)

EDIT: This one didn't turn out well - Where are the pictures?: http://brickset.com/reviews/?ID=38079

EDIT #2: @Alemas (first comment), I tried doing a C:/Users/Blank/Blank/Stuff, but it appears like the pics in the link I put above.

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By in United States,

Awww, man... the reason I like reviewing here more than anywhere else is I don't have the time to take pictures, and I figure the set details page already usually has more than enough pictures of the set, so I can get to the main talking points straight-away. But now everyone's going to scroll right past any reviews that don't have a bunch of pictures, because reading text isn't viewed as worth the effort.

That said, it could be cool if, instead of remote linking to flickr images, we could upload a select few images (say, 5 max) which would then also be added to the collection of images on the 'set details' page, in addition to the the review itself, kinda like the user-submitted images on Amazon.

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By in United States,

I would love to post pics with my reviews but why do you HAVE to host the pics on a different website?!? :'( NO FAIR! I TOTALLY AGREE WITH ALEMAS!!!! (Go to the second comment to see what I mean) A "browse" button WOULD be great!!!!!
legoDad42's review was great, though. 88 out of 89 people! Wow! I wish my reviews were that good.....:)

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By in Canada,

@alemas, I'm not sure why this page has slowed down significantly since the upgrade but I'll make it a priority to investigate and speed it up if I can.

@everyone, I decided against allowing image uploads. Making it so you need to host them somewhere else kind of raises the barrier for entry and should ensure that only people competent at taking photos, resizing, uploading and linking to them add them. We don't want a load of rubbish after all...

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By in United Kingdom,

Well, i will have to post reviews in the good old Brickset way. No pictures, just words. I agree with everything Alemas says, it takes me ages to post a comment, if you want to know how long, 10 minutes.

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By in United States,

@jonbuddy... you can't link to pics on your local C drive, you need to upload them to an image hosting service (like flickr or imagebucket) or your own webserver in order to link to them.

@Huw... I rest my case :P

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By in Canada,

I found the cause of the slow-down on this page, hopefully it's better now: let me know!

@vynsane, I rest mine: "Making it so you need to host them somewhere else [...] raises the barrier for entry". Do we really need loads of grainy blurred pictures taken by kids, because it's easy to upload them here, in what might otherwise be a useful review?

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By in Denmark,

The last you want is to host pics here. It'll be a living nightmare when it comes to server space and imagine the amount of time needed to moderate the pics and remove prelims posted as reviews prior to release. No thank you!

You're welcome Huw - feel free to contact me if you have any questions/ideas regarding the links or any future cooperations between our sites.

starwarsforum.eurobricks[at]gmail.com

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By in United States,

Heh, we could go back and forth on this forever. I respect your decision on the merits of your reasoning, I just think we'll end up with as many broken image icons as we would grainy blurred pic taken by kids. In the end, it's probably a wash.

That said, maybe this will spur me on to point my new Nikon D3100 (woot!) at something other than my daughter for a change.

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By in United States,

I really love now that we have options on the reviews. I still want to do more with just text and and also do some reviews with one or 2 pics of a cool feature of the model or even some turnarounds of the minifigs. This flexibility makes this a better forum for reviews. We have options to go text, pro/con list or eurobrick-style...even with eurobrick style we can just do text and describe all points from the box to the summary. Mo-options, mo-choices, mo-lego, mo-money(wait mo-lego means less money...;)

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By in Australia,

@Huw: I think that making users host their images on another website obviously works against your aim to have more users include images in their reviews. Not very many people can be bothered to host images elsewhere. Creating an account, password and managing the account is in itself a disincentive, not because it is difficult but because it takes time. On the other hand, say I create a flickr account, there's really nothing stopping me from uploading awful pictures onto my photo stream and then including them in my review. I do not think that having users host elsewhere achieves anything in the order of increasing the professionalism of the photos. Kids can easily create flickr accounts and put their "grainy blurred pictures" on it. So you're not "raising the barrier" after all, you're only increasing the inconvenience of the entire process by making displaying a picture in a review a much more tedious and time-consuming task than it should be. Users should be allowed to upload images straight onto their reviews (and I believe reviews are moderated anyway before they go online for all to see, which is a sufficient barrier). Forgive me for the outburst, but I think when you wrote "kind of" before "raises the barrier for entry", you knew that "kind of" actually didn't actually mean much.

@legoDad: thumbs up on a great review. I hope that the 42 at the end of your username wasn't purely coincidental but in fact a subtle reference to the late and great Douglas Adams :)

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By in United States,

@dentarthurdent....you are the FIRST to know that reference on my screen name...lol. Thanks for spotting that....it's life, the universe and everything you know...;) Everyone thinks it's my age....I'm not that old...;)...close but not quite...ahem....
You know also after I read all the Hitchhiker's Guide's I had forgotten about it and then when an old X-Files episode came on with Mulder's apartment number being 42 I was like...that's cool. I'm gonna' use that every chance I get. I put it sometimes into my own drawings hidden in the background from time to time.
Oh and thx for checkin' out my review Arthur...and for all the fish....

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By in United Kingdom,

now that could be useful

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By in United States,

Thanks to EVERYONE for making the review hit the 100 helpful views mark!
I really appreciate that so many took the time to check it out.
I hope to improve on it and make better reviews in the future.
Can't wait to see other folks post up their reviews with interesting pics and build techniques from their favorite kits!

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By in Brazil,

Adding images to review is a great idea and a very useful addition. I still have some old photos of sets I've already reviewed, but as someone stated, they take space, and are very large.

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