2013 Super Heroes revealed at NYCC

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The Bat vs. Bane : Tumbler Chase

There's loads of NYCC news over at FBTB, including pictures of 76001 The Bat vs. Bane - Tumbler Chase, and 76005 Spider-Man - Daily Bugle Showdown.

The details are:

76001: $39.99, Piece Count: 368, Minifigures: Batman, Bane, Commissioner Gordon
76005: $49.99, Piece Count: 476, Minifigures: Spider-Man, Doctor Doom, Jonah Jameson, Nova, Beetle

Both sets will be available in January, or more likely, after Thanksgiving in the USA.

78 comments on this article

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By in Ireland,

That Batman set is a disappointment. Too much blue on the Bat..at least Lego got the Tumbler size right, still though that's a piss poor attempt at making it. I've seen fan made MOCs make better versions. The Spider-Man set looks cool though.

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By in Belgium,

mmm when I first did hear the rumors about that possible tumbler saidm it seemed the most interesting of next years SH line to me. But seeing this picture now, my first impresion was that the tumbler was a mini or something out of a polybag.. It looks a bit simple imho, specialy compared to the older one. Well, with a bit of luck the price in europe isnt to exagerated, though 40$ then it will probably be 50 Euro or more. I guess I still will get it though. That Bane and Gordon are to cool to pass.

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By in United States,

Spider-Man, Nova, Beetle, and Dr. Doom all in the same set? I'm there.

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By in United Kingdom,

The tumbler looks good (despite intitial complaints about the scale). I'm guessing a fig fits inside. The bat looks a bit shonky though... whats with the blue? :( I guess that's easily rectified with a few spare black pieces though...

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By in United Kingdom,

The spider man set looks awesome however the batman one is abit of a let down. Although I expect the, to have the same number figure when it comes to $-£ but I'd like them to be more fair e.g $50-£40.

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By in United States,

The Daily Bugle looks great! A must buy! As for The Tumbler and Bat, I'll wait for it to go on sale.

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By in Canada,

I'm actually very disappointed with the Tumbler set. The Daily Bugle looks good though.

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By in United States,

How in the world does TDKR set cost $39.99...that is a rip-off. I rather of seen an $100 dollar TDKR set with actually big vehicles.

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By in United States,

Am I the only one who wants that Tumbler set mostly for the black n grey Batman fig? The vehicles are okay, but far from home runs... And I like the Bane & Gordon figs (latter more so than the former), but for me it's this variation of the Batman that steals the show. I'm kinda glad the price point is lower because it's a lot easier for me to justify he purchase...

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By in United Kingdom,

the vehicle part count spread has left the tumbler short on detail. the minifigures will make up for that though.

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By in United States,

I've never been more disappointed in a set than I am in that Bat and Tumbler. Terrible, just terrible.

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By in Canada,

Any word of whether the Tumbler baby is a boy or girl? *LOL* I can't be the only one who coughed out loud when I saw the small Batman Tumbler. It's nothing short of a shame, since between the minifigures and the new bat-vehicle it makes the set a must have for some people. Spiderman has always been my favourite superhero, and given that he has finally made an appearance in a good looking set, I'll buy it for sure. My 2013 list is very short... and surprisingly it's only getting smaller. As always, thanks for the pictures.

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By in United Kingdom,

I know the Tumbler isn't too detailed but at least its correct minifigure scale! The previous incarnation was at least 4 times too big!

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By in United States,

In my opinion, they put way more meat on the Bat than they needed too, and the Tumbler is obviously way too small. Nothing that can't be fixed, but... I can't say I'm not a little disappointed.

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By in United States,

The fact that people are saying the sets stink, but the figures make up for it, only makes me shake my head in that we'll continue having to put up with sub-par brick builds just for minifigs. Surely it's possible to balance the two?

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By in Finland,

Easy for me to say as I have next to no interest whatsoever in the whole Superheroes theme, but I have to agree with George G. on the scale. The new one is much better in that aspect than the humongous one in 7888. Considering the piece count it's not _that_ bad looking either. It's just not an eye catcher. Considering it's a bad guy vehicle that kids might find a bit dull anyway I can understand why the designers concentrated more pieces on the flying bat-thing.

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By in Germany,

Love the tumbler, right size, nice little thing! Don't like the Bat too much though, will see if I am willing to pay the (probably) 50€ for this. The Spiderman set is amazing, but as I don't know the characters, this is not for me I believe.

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By in United States,

I don't know what that miniature thing is, but it sure isn't the tumbler.

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By in United Kingdom,

Nice to see that they've made a set from the new Batman film (sorry if you haven't seen it). And I've always liked Spider-Man Lego, so two good sets. Only problem is, I don't get why Commisioner Gordon is wearing SWAT uniform.

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By in United States,

I don't see how you can say that Tumbler is to scale... Yeah, the old one was a bit big, but honestly guys.

Also, you have to admit the Bat looks pretty awesome, once you get over how little it looks like the one in the movie and how freakin' bulky it is.

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By in United Kingdom,

@JaseTJ (and some others) - The real Tumbler is 462cm long, which if you think about human-to-minifigure ratios should mean that a LEGO Tumbler should be about the length of 3 Minifigures laying down head to toe - which near enough works in this set :)

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By in United Kingdom,

I kinda think that for a small cheap version the Tumbler isn't that bad. Why they went for weird exposed part decals instead of camouflage print ones however I have no idea. The Bat is growing on me the more I look at it, though the blue is again quite a silly decision. Why didn't they make it all black? Or even black and dark blue, then would be a perfect small scale Bat. Figures are all exceptional and will probably sway me towards a purchase.

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By in United States,

MEH.

That's what I think of TDKR set. THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT SO WELL.
This... this is a disappointment; given LEGO's recent surge in quality, I'm utterly shocked, and broken... even depressed...

I agree, though: for a small version of the Tumbler, it's good... but it shouldn't be a small version.

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By in Canada,

perhaps the tumbler is to scale but i am very disappointed. When my Indian Jones Shanghai Chase Car compares to the tumbler something is wrong.

I guess the original tumbler price on ebay wont be coming down any time soon.

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By in Canada,

That tumbler is the equivalent and what I'd expect from the three recent Star Wars Mini Tin sets and not a real set...it just looses its intimidation factor in this set.

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By in United States,

Batman Set: AWSOME MINIFIGS!!! Not so awsome veihcles. Guess I'm going to have to keep supporting tumbler projects on cuusoo.

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By in Denmark,

I had high hopes for the new Tumbler. But yeah, it's pretty disappointing. Even the Bat isn't that great. But the figures...

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By in United States,

@George G: Sure, it works... except it's only about two 'figs long.

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By in United Kingdom,

This one sets the standard for me, it even includes a parts list and instructions

http://lego.cuusoo.com/ideas/view/8919

@TheLEGOmaniac, completely agree i was so excited about this set but am left feeling rather empty, an excellent opportunity completed wasted by TLG.

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By in Canada,

this is...............terrible. iv spent so many months waiting for this set thinking it would be amazing!. but no. its childish, small and doesnt look like TDKR at all! the bat has blue now. come on! im
dissapointed!

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By in United Kingdom,

That Tumbler is really poor, but the Bat is not bad other than the blue. The Tumbler is just horrible though, those stickers are some of the worst I have ever seen. The Minifigures however are excellent by the looks of it, I have wanted to recreate the "not as serious as yours, I fear" moment since I watched the film! Commissioner Gordon's Minifigure is very welcome too, it is certainly not far enough removed from the comic design to be of no use at all in that line of continuity, and will no doubt prove very useful.

The Spider-man set on the other hand looks rather good, the building is very attractive and the figures are great, other than Jonah Jamieson's hairpiece, why they would not use the crew cut piece is beyond me.

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By in Canada,

when i get this set, ill change all those blue pieces to black.im still getting this set.

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By in United Kingdom,

I think this sets great, it's got a certain characteristic I like and the figs are great, in the movie the Tumbler is human scale and this one is minifig scale

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By in United Kingdom,

Totaly agreeing with what seems to be the general consensus in the posts here. The Batman set is very boring and the Spiderman set looks like an essential purchase for any Spiderman fan, as not having the Daily Bugle is a bit like not having the Batcave if you like Batman. Oh and the Dr Doom fig is marvelous.

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By in United States,

Am I the only one that wants to see a side by side with set 4432 before I make the call on how the Tumbler looks?

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By in United States,

While I agree that the Batman set is a let down, the Spidey set actually looks really nice. We get 5 minifigures in contrast to the previous 50$ Marvel set only having 4 (its not a big difference, but I like it nonetheless).

I may end up buying the Spidey set but I am also severely relieved this set was unveiled. Since mostly all the new Spider-man figures are being used in this set, that means that Venom (the minifigure I care and want the most) will be in the Spider-Cycle set which will probably contain Spider-man, Nick Fury and the symbiote himself. I am so relieved Venom is not gonna be in the more expensive set!

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By in Denmark,

Just a word in defense of the Tumbler set - this had to be designed over a year ago based only on concept art, the Designer did not have final images from the movie as they were not done yet, things change during filming and in post production. You all have the luxury of having seen the movie and how it was used, all the plot points were top secret and very few of them are shared with toy companies!

Also it has to be buildable by kids (and fun to play with), a secondary colour needs to be brought in to differentiate the layers of black and dark grey - blue is very Batman - the original Tumbler had a lot of yellow hidden away inside it, but in a smaller model like this it's not always possible to hide the brighter colour away.

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By in United States,

Um...I think I'm with most people in saying that that tumbler looks WAY too small. I personally love the old tumbler and was really hoping for a copy of that one only in desert camo colors instead. I guess this set will do, but man the tumbler is a big disapointment.

The Bat on the other hand isn't all bad. It looks like it can hold two minifigs, so that makes me satisfied with it. Is it perfect? No. But I think it looks okay. The only problem with it is that it looks like a pile of parts sitting there. Then again, it kinda looked like that in the movie too, lol.

I'm most excited about the Commissioner minifig. It's about time!

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By in Netherlands,

To quote Nabii : " It also has to be buildable by kids..." Yes, but don't you find it strange that kids are not legally allowed to see the film (due to age restrictions) but are sold the toy anyway?

In all fairness this happens with a lot of toy manufacturers.

And the Tumbler does look to small.

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By in United States,

I'd only buy the Tumbler set if it was lowered to $20, but even then, I'd still use...

MY BAT CREDIT CARD.

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By in Canada,

First impression of the Bat-vehicles was that they looked Fisher Price-like: brighter than they should in colour, softer than they should in appearance. Which, if you're selling to kids (which they kind of are) makes some sense.

I can't imagine a kid that would be old enough to go to this movie in theatres, being young enough to necessitate this style. It is too bad.

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By in Denmark,

glenn - yes, it's odd. That was a great challenge for the Designer - how to make a cool and desirable Batman toy for 6 year old kids who have not seen the movie and also make a recognizable scene from TDKR. It's a tough one, particularly while trying to get two iconic Batman vehicles in a $40 set, (compare it a a SW $40, it stacks up quite well). I think it's pretty cool, but I have held one, maybe it's better in person!

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By in Australia,

I think the problem most of us have is that the tumbler is too small, perhaps due to the fact that we were expecting something along the lines of the previous tumbler?
Apart from it's size, I quite like it. It's reasonably movie accurate given it's size, and it helps keep the cost down. I won't lie, initially I was disappointed as I was expecting a larger vehicle, but after looking at it for some time, it's starting to grow on me.

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By in United States,

@Nabii
I don't really see much of a target audience for the tumbler set, aside from 6 year olds, die-hard LEGO collectors, and/or MOC builders.

Just because it's intended for younger builders doesn't mean that they need to do so much of a mediocre job; I mean, look at other sets in this age range/theme! For example, 6862, 6866 (although Marvel), and 6867 (accurate, except for Iron Man).

@duilim
Please see the link to the other LEGO Tumbler Cuusoo project above, in my second comment. They could have gone with an approach more like that, at least something that doesn't make it look like a type of car...

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By in United Kingdom,

The size I believe is fairly accurate I think, however the details are sorely lacking and it needs a bit of greebling, not some awful stickers! The Tumbler in the film is far from sleek and smooth like this one, but has jagged edges and panelling, which could have been recreated to an extent. The windscreen too is a travesty, where is the middle bit which splits it into two halves? It looks as though if it is included, it will be in the form of a sticker which is simply not acceptable. Never mind though, despite my reservations, I have absolutely no doubt I will be buying this set!

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By in Canada,

...

I think the Tumbler looks cool...

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By in United States,

From the early descriptions, I was hoping for a little larger Spidey set, but I am still very happy. Can't wait!!

Still hoping for an Agent Coulson, White Tiger, Powerman and a few more villains before they stop Ultimate Spider-Man cast theme.

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By in United States,

Very very upset at ego for making the tumbler very small out of scale though all minifigs look great and the bat is very nice for lego to make. The daily bugle set is awesome love the show and hope to buy both of them.

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By in United States,

I am a little disapointed about the color chose for the bat and the tumbler isn't exactly the car crushing behemoth I was hopeing for, but I'll still get the set because of the gordon and bane minifigures.

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By in United States,

I feel like a $100 set would have been the only way to do true justice to the Bat and the Tumbler...but I'm not surprised that Lego took the medium route with this one and made a decent Bat with an average Tumbler. I like the Bat's shape and overall design...but the blue colors butcher it and the exo-force arms connecting the propellers make it look incomplete. The Tumbler is cute. Yes, you read that right. Its not intimidating or huge or menacing like in the film, but instead, is chubby and small. It seems like they made a Star Wars mini-vehicle (like the con exclusives) for Bane's vehicle instead of an adequate counterpart to the film. Oh well...not a bad set...just not a GREAT one like we were all banking on. The Bugle though...now THAT"S a must buy.

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By in Australia,

@ Dragon_Master_48 - totally agree. Thanks for the link.

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By in Ukraine,

Yes, the tumbler was designed as an experimental tank, right? So it really needs to be a little bit bigger...

Some of the custom-designed ones for sale on e-Bay look better, about 20 studs long, and about 14 wide...

Plus most of them have four large rear tires, and seat two figs in the cockpit, and look a lot more menacing!

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By in Canada,

more pieces=better detail=higher price.
they need to balance small sets and big sets. Or if you guys like, the entire superhero line could range from $70-200.

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By in United States,

oh well.... at least my 7888 will continue to grow in value...people is buying a sealed 7888 for $500-600 now...

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By in United States,

Although the Tumbler IS too small, size is not the problem, Bad design is.
MANY far superior Tumbler MOCS have been made which are actually SMALLER than this Tumbler.
It is pure sloppiness. And I am not even anti-sticker, at all, I am PRO-sticker usually, but these stickers are so bad they don't even look decent in the publicity shots!
There is no doubt that this was a shoddy, rushed design job, possibly due to the license restrictions. But it shows.

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By in United States,

Hmmm The Batwing and Tumbler set is intriguing but for the price and the figures, I wouldn't have mind at least if you threw in GCPD swat soldier, but 40$ for that tiny tumbler is okay but for younger Lego fans, for AFOLS only if your a die hard collector, I'll just buy the figures on bricklink, the Daily Bugle showdown looks amazing though connect the figures with the Doc Ock showdown and this will be amazing! The price is okay but if you were to take out that little measly airplane it would probably a 40$ set on the other hand for 5 awesome minifigures I can't pass I guess I will just rack up Lego VIP points to get that awesome set!! It also includes two Marvel villains to add to the few Marvel villains Lego has made up!! Green Goblin, Loki, Doc Ock and Magneto!!

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By in Singapore,

the vehicles (especially that useless tumbler) in both spidey and batman sets are very, very, very, ugly! the daily bugle building and the minifigs are probably the only redeeming features of these otherwise mediocre sets! yup, i will get the minifigs elsewhere. very disappointing indeed! well, money saved!!! ^^

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By in Australia,

i actually like them both!

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By in Australia,

ill get it mainly for the AWESOME TDKR mini-figs,
the BAT, in my opinion, looks terrible. there are many better ones made by AFOL'S and some of which are on CUSSOO (Go support them so that they can become sets).
i like the Tumbler, but it could have been better...

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By in Australia,

here is a good question,
why does Gordon have an Alien Conquest gun????

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By in United Kingdom,

To the still non-believers....
Average human height is 175cm, and a LEGO minifigure is 4cm tall. If you divide the human height by the the Minifigure height you get 43.75, which I shall call the scale. If you divide 462cm (the length of the Tumbler in real life) you get 10.56cm. The Tumbler in this set is just over 13 studs long, and if you get your rulers out and go and measure.... 13 studs is 10.4 cm! :)

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By in Canada,

Hey folks, has LEGO done a minifigure with a vest/shirt combo in the past? I really want to get that classic J Jonah Jameson vibe, like in the TV monitors on the set. The suit is okay but If there's something close to that 'classic' look I'd love to get that.

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By in United Kingdom,

As a huge Batman fan, I'm very disappointed in the Tumbler model. As soon as I heard about the plans for a TDKR Tumbler model, I was expecting an expensive, huge collectors set, but instead we get a mini-tumbler, and bright blue Bat...

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By in United States,

@_azazel_
The Bat would be tolerable if it didn't have those blue pieces.
The Tumbler would be great if it were bigger. Old LEGO Tumbler = too big; new LEGO Tumbler = too small.

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By in United Kingdom,

Needless say I will be buying The Tumbler Chase Set, but with the view of customising the set to improve it, the new tumbler could have been a great model and lego messed it up, it has none of the flair and meaness the tumbler actually has, it seems Lego or my 8 year old threw it together, the windscreen could have been split like the real thing also the only i like about this tumbler is the size is closer to minifig scale than the last, The bat.....what's with all the blue?????? the exoforce arm the hold the engines look incomplete, lego should have found a way to level the engines out, it also seems a little chunky too, but that is my opinion, i've had my moan and have said most of what i wanted to say, I just can't believe lego would produce a build that my kids could design. I believe the minifigs will be a selling point for older collectors.

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By in United Kingdom,

What a disapointment. When I first heard there was going to be a tumbler set I thought wow about time. Instead we get this polybag tumbler. I have two of the original tumblers that I had to pay over the odds for so thank goodness for that.

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By in Ukraine,

So when can we expect that they will reveal the other sets in the wave? For Super Heroes, etc?

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By in United States,

I am disappointed in the marvel sets this set is basically all the figures except for venom and the long awaited Nick fury so this means there are probably only two or so sets. This also means there maybe the same figures in different sets. And as for dc I knew batman and bane dark knight style would come in the same however I was not expecting the bat nicely done Lego. So I bet white batman is either an exclusive or a snow suit batman battling Mr.Freeze. The Mr.Freeze set must be an add on to the asylum as for Aquaman I wonder what they will do with him. Hmmm.

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By in United Kingdom,

Lots of new super heroes sets and new lines. But no: modular buildings, no details in Collectable minifigures and there hasn't been any detail in this 'polar express' stuff.

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By in Australia,

also on Super Heroes, wheres the xmen sets? Seen a whole 1 of them so far, and in my opinion its the line that has possibly the greatest potential. Must see more X Men!

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By in Canada,

cant wait to get them to complete my superheroes collection

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By in Denmark,

GREAT BATMAN SET! Sadly it looks way too stickered!

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By in Canada,

@blounty23: There is a new modular building in 2013. It'll probably come out in March like in previous years.

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By in United Kingdom,

The Tumbler is the right size I believe, to be the only issue is in the detail, the shape and size is perfect, but there should be some greebling at least.

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By in United Kingdom,

Agree with icey about the stickers. Has anyone else noted, stickers in general in all set ranges seems to be on the increase. There is probably a direct correlation between using stickers (instead of printed pieces), and higher profits for the LEGO shareholders. It's an obvious production cost saving in these difficult recession like times for most of their customers.

We really should keep moaning about it and if necessary avoid buying heavily stickered sets, otherwise printed bricks will either became a happy memory of the past, or at best a rare piece in the occassional set.

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By in Canada,

i wish they would just make a christopher nolan batman series theme.

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