Sherlock's case is closed (until the review that is)

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Sherlock by Flailx just reached 10,000 supporters on Cuusoo. This makes it the second project to do so for the Winter 2013 Review.

Sherlock was executed expertly with a great MOC for the fanbase, and the fans ran with it.

There has been a lot of conversation about the table I have above, so I went ahead and made this posting about them. I hope it clears up a few issues.

37 comments on this article

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By in United States,

Congrats for them!

As for my thoughts on the project: Meh. No.

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By in United States,

Is this some kind of record, this project reached the quota and isn't even a month old.

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By in United States,

@cody6268 I don't believe so, I believe that the quickest record for a project to reach the 10,000 supporters happened for the Minecraft project in less than 24 hours. I think quite a few other ones have reached the goal in less than a month as well.

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By in United States,

That is the worst graph I have ever seen. Am I supposed to guess the days? lol

Cool, now we just need to wait until the summer of 2028 to know if they will get sets.

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By in United States,

@The Green Brick Giant,

The "worst graph" you have ever seen is interactive. Put your mouse on the line and it will show you how many days back the point was and the exact support level.

I agree the chart would look better with some displayed delineations of the passage of time, but that is pretty far down on my "to do" list. Until then, I apologize that the service I provide freely is not up to your expectation of value.

Cheers

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By in United States,

Yah, I was going to complain about the graph too (I also didn't realize it was interactive either as there is no indication). I think since you posted the x-axis units it really threw me off not having the values. It seems you just executed a poor design choice, and then got a bit snotty and sarcastic when you were called on it.

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By in United States,

I'm expecting LEGO to reject the project based on Sherlock's headpiece and the adult nature of the programme.

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By in Hong Kong,

Hey Glen, your graph is only interactive if your "viewing portal" requires a mouse.
iPad and iPhone users who get their Brickset fix on-the-go are out of luck....and can only guess at the timeline.
So great idea but not universally friendly across all platforms.

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By in United States,

Wow.. I didn't even get a chance to support it...

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By in Canada,

Thank you, glenbricker, for bringing us yet more insight and information in your "free" time! I appreciate that you and the rest of the brickset team work to inform and entertain us all with no compensation to yourselves other than the feeling of accomplishment that running such a quality site can give you. Brickset is an extremely valuable database and community news tool that I pay nothing to use and yet gain so much from each and every day. Please accept my sincere thanks and appreciation for all of your thankless work. Please remember that there is always a spot for you all here on your next visit to the west coast.

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By in United States,

@ oin4lego.

You can touch the chart for the same effect on the iphone and ipad (at least I can on mine) The chart will flash grey for just a moment and then a dot will show up on the line with a "word balloon" indicating days "back" and support level.

If you have not tried touching the line, please do so and report back. I would very much like to know it if is not working on a touch interface system.

In the meantime, I will see if I can get my table to recognize the platform users are using so I can alternate the text between "(hover over..) and "(touch..) again, as time permits....ironically, given the coding structures involved, that should be easier to do than drawing vertical lines on the page.

@All
To clarify, my preference would be to have vertical gridlines on the chart. The issue is one of time management. I search Cuusoo, post on Cuusoo, give advice on Cuusoo, and code new features in equal measure. It is a full time job I do in my spare time and without compensation, other than the joy of trying new stuff out and thinking that I might play some small part in making something I think is an awesome idea a little bit better.

It drives me nuts that there are not vertical lines on the chart! It seems like it should be the simplest thing to code wouldn't it? It has to do with how I format data though so I will have to change how I do that and it just starts cascading and then its turtles all the way down. Every minute I work on that is a minute taken away from something else. And right now I spending all the coding time on a new experiment that I hope will have some interesting impacts on the way FOLs engage with Cuusoo...I don't know, maybe it will flop, but still, I can't wait to share it.

Does this mean I do not want feedback on my performance? Certainly not! I love feedback, positive and negative. It is how we learn to be better. I don't have a boss and I don't have a client in the traditional sense here so the only way I get feedback is if people actually post it. I would like to point out though that there is a difference between insults and feedback.

Cheers and thank you, seriously. You guys are awesome, even the people who just post to complain.



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By in United States,

Green Brick Giant - Was there really no way you could have made your same point without being completely rude about it?

I've never seen Sherlock, but the proposed set is pretty cool. I've always wanted a nicely detailed little Lego den, but that's not the type of thing we're likely to ever get in a modular. So if the set actually gets produced, I'll just consider them generic minifigs and buy it to build the room.

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By in United States,

I'm on a phone half the time, it's too hard to number graphs now? Let's make a simple bar chart confusing and hard to use on mobile devices.

My point is there really isn't any need for a chart, and how hard would it have been to add a few numbers instead of being interactive?

But let's give me a hard time because you made a chart no one can understand. You are supposed to be a leading LEGO site. My "rudeness" is based on facts, your rudeness is based on the fact I'm calling you out and you don't like it.

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By in Hungary,

What interactive graph and line are you talking about? Is that the invisible part below the two minifigs with the scrollbar?

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By in United Kingdom,

I understood the chart... and it works fine for me.

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By in United States,

@Yooha,

There should be a chart in that empty space displaying the support level that the Sherlock project received over the course of its journey to 10k.

If it is blank then it means your browser is creating the space for the chart but not rendering it within the space.

Would you mind sharing with me the browser and platform you are using so I can look into the issue.

Thanks.

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By in Australia,

Accessing via iPad (3, using native safari, ios6.1.3)
Touching the line brings up a speach bubble with support and days (which counts down, not up?)
Thanks @glenbricker !

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By in Denmark,

SHERLOCK would be such a great set! This is the first "CUUSOO-10K" I want to buy... if it reach production. :-)

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By in United Kingdom,

I am a huge Sherlock fan, although I do not believe that Sherlock LEGO would work very well as a concept, it is really more about the intellectual than the action and this is difficult to reflect in a model.

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By in Italy,

My biggest regret is that I didn't get the chance to support this, since it climbed so fast...I always said to myself, I'll have time to support it later. Well, too late for that now...

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By in France,

I'd prefer the original Conan Doyle Sherlock, but we already have him in CMF anyway. And Watson is easy to make with the business man's bowler hat. The build part doesn't seem very interesting for play value, so it's another minifig driven set.

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By in United Kingdom,

I like the concept, the set and the work that's been put in, I just think it's a shame that I really don't think Lego will go for it. Great idea but I just don't see it happening sadly.

As for the work of the Admins on here, I love this site and come on almost daily to have a look at the latest news and other things so thank you, you do a great job. Of course there are bits here and there that could be smoother, you get that with every site. It's a real shame that there are people that still find room to complain and moan about a free service though. If you don't like it make your own site, in your own time, with no financial recompense and we'll all come on there and take pot shots at you as well. Everyone's entitled to their opinion theres nothing wrong with that of course, just maybe everyone needs to think about what they're writing sometimes and how it may come across. Mini rant over! :)

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By in China,

@CCC, I was going to post something similar. I am a huge fan of the show, but it just doesn't scream 'LEGO theme' to me. IMO an Arthur Conan Doyle, Victorian era, Sherlock Holmes theme would work much better, and would be a better fit. Whether that would have the interest to get off the ground is another matter entirely, however.

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By in United States,

Touching the graph works as expected on Windows Phone 7.8. Kinda neat.

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By in United Kingdom,

Thanks Glenbricker, the graph was interesting and original! Ignore the saddos, they'll never get it.

Have to agree the adult nature may well kill this project.

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By in United States,

@Glenbricker, The graph is what got my attention. I agree with caperberry's comments about the graph. I'm playing with web design myself and started to wonder how you implemented it. Is it asp.net? I would have started the numbers the other direction so that day 1 was 0, but that's just me. I'm guessing the values are in a table and on a mouse hover event the values are displayed. And then I was thinking about all the devices that you needed to test on... Great job and thanks for being daring. And now I'll actually look at the Sherlock design.

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By in United States,

Wow, I would have supported this project if the main image would have been either room build instead of a CGI pic of 2 minifigures in front of a ferris wheel.

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By in France,

@Steve_J_OM

We have the detective for Holmes, businessman (or some variant parts) for Holmes and the S11 policemen make great period police too. And if you want to go licensed style, it is also easy to switch heads to fleshie for Sherlock and Holmes if wanted. It is just a shame they had to go and put a tiny piece of yellow on the policeman's torso, so it cannot be swapped for a fleshie.

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By in United States,

I like the idea. The show is great, but it wouldn't translate to LEGO very easily. I wouldn't mind having more figure parts to expand my city collection, but short of that I don't see this becoming a huge success. Granted, this feels like a Dr. Who to me (a show I don't watch) and that seems to have mass appeal, so what do I know.

We shall see. Cuusoo is really taking off it seems.

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By in Germany,

Great info material, glenbricker! Thanks a lot for that great service.
I don't understand most peoples nagging. "How hard can it be...?" well go ahead then and do it yourself next time. It's a great chart that provides a good overview as well as sepcific details. And it works. The rest might be a matter of personal preference and taste.

As for the set: I like the show, I like Sherlock Holmes, I like LEGO. Would be cool to see those things come together, although I will survive without it (or a MOC).

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By in United Kingdom,

@Green Brick Giant - I can't say I agree with much of what you've said.

That's not a bar chart. It's pretty easy and intuitive to understand. And in breaking up the text with something graphic it makes the article a whole lot more attractive. (Okay, there's not actually that much text to break up, but it does make the article look more readable than a text description would have.)

From a site run voluntarily I am grateful for everything positive, which is a lot, and quite happy to put up with shortcomings, not that I can think of all that many that are any more substantial than taste. Actually, now I come to think of it, I really can't think of any!

And your rudeness was exactly that, rudeness. An insulting remark, mitigated with an 'lol', which you then quite forcefully negated with your protest. I can't think what you could possibly mean when you accuse Glenbricker of rudeness either. He was really very restrained, explained all the issues involved in his choice of graph, didn't directly attack you, and made a very good point when he pointed out that an insult does not constitute feedback.

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By in United States,

Hey all you folks coming down on Green Brick Giant; he's actually golden in a forum full of yes men. I'm a software developer and computer science major myself (as Glenbricker appears to also be), and I know my code advances slowly when no one points out its usability issues. As far as so many believing this site is strictly a selfless charity of information, please google "affiliate marketing". However, having said that, Glenbricker is clearly a talented and clever developer, and this site is a wonderful resource that should be at the top of any AFOL list.

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By in United Kingdom,

True CatsDontLikeWearingHats you don't want all yes men and most people should want feedback whether positive or negative, however there are ways of giving feedback. Stating "That is the worst graph I have ever seen. Am I supposed to guess the days? lol" I wouldn't say is the most constructive way, particularly not in an open discussion like this. I'm sure he meant no offence by it at all I'm just saying I can understand glenbricker being a little put out by the criticism. If it was me I'd have probably been a lot worse in my response so if anything I'd say give him credit for the restraint.

As for the affiliate marketing comment of course there is that side to this website but I can almost guarantee that was not the reason the site was started. It's a deserved offshoot for creating a successful site that we all use and enjoy.

Anyway hopefully we can all start to leave it now. I don't think any offence was meant by anyone and it's great that so many people care enough about the site to make so many comments. As you say it's a wonderful resource and always has terrific updates.

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By in Hong Kong,


@glenbricker

Hi Glen,
I stand humbly corrected/educated!
I was mashing my fat digits down on the graph I was only getting a "copy/select/select all" prompt.
I tried "touching" it rather than assaulting it as you suggested - and voila! Works as advertised!
Well done!
A side benefit of my education is that I can now read the comment boxes embedded in Flickr photos!
I guess those magazines devoted to "exploring ALL your iPad's potential" might not be complete rubbish as I thought - maybe I should invest in one...

Anyway, thanks for the tutorial, the graph and all the great insights you supply into Cuusoo.
Cheers

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By in United States,

@oin4lego,

Thanks for taking the time to evaluate and get back in touch. It does appear there are some issues with the tables showing up in some Browsers but until your comment I had not heard about any touch issues.

I also realized I should have said, "Tap" on a point on the line but it looks like you figured it out regardless.

Cheers

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By in United Kingdom,

Thanks for taking the time to produce this. FYI My own experience on an iPhone wasn't great. I could tap once and get that point data, but tapping again with or without a delay got either enlarge or copy/select. If you could add an end point on the axis, i.e. '28 days' I suspect most peoples brains will break up the axis into sensible chunks anyway and it would keep Tufte et al happy too.

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