10245 Santa's Workshop

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The first image of this year's Winter Exclusive set - 10245 Santa's Workshop has been posted at Hoth Bricks. You can see a larger version of the image by clicking on the thumbnail.

It's going in a different direction from the more 'realistic' Winter Village sets of previous years, but I think it will be popular all round. There's no word on pricing yet, but hopefully it will be a step down from the more expensive Winter Village Cottage and Market of the last couple of years.

Let us know what you think of it in the comments below. There's also a discussion in the forum.

73 comments on this article

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By in Venezuela,

I Want it!!!, Reindeers not so great

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By in Netherlands,

Great set. A bit of a pitty that Rudolf and co. are brickbuild.
Would love a real new mold.

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By in United Kingdom,

Hmm looks a little small and uninspiring to me.. and I'm not sure about going down the fantasy root... couldn't they have made it a santa's grotto type thing in a shop instead, to keep up the realistic theme? And I'm not so keen on the reindeer either, they bring down the quality of the set, perhaps moulded ones would have been more appropriate? I think it's a nice set, just not an amazing must have for me, and certainly not if it follows the trend of the last 2 years prices.. Why couldn't these winter village sets have stuck around the £40-50 mark? :(

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By in United Kingdom,

I'm surprised one of the reindeers doesn't have a red nose.

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By in United Kingdom,

I love the appearance of the set, although I am not at all convinced that this model will fit well in a Winter Village scene beside the other sets already released. As a stand alone set however, this is top notch in my opinion.

If I had to guess, I would image this would garner a price of £69.99, with perhaps 1000 pieces?

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By in United Kingdom,

I'm replacing one of the red-brown 1x1 round plates on the reindeer with a red one. :)

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By in Germany,

As always some nice parts in unusual colors. And while it takes a minute, I am actually beginning to like the reindeers. I guess everyone has their own rendition of a reindeer by now (myself included, https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8619368245/), so it just takes a while to adapt.

I also wouldn't say it's less realistic per se. Such workshops actually do exist IRL, even if it's not the real Santa working there. The real Santa is obviously working in his (ever-so-tiny) workshop on the second floor of the #10199 Toy Shop.

Speaking of which, I suppose some will argue we're seeing repetition already, and TLG could have made a number of other buildings first. But then again this is cool for all the people who somehow missed out on the 10199.

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By in United Kingdom,

I think this is more of a stand alone set because you don't expect Santa's workshop to be right next to a toy shop, a bakery, a post office and a cottage.

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By in United States,

Nice to see the CMF Santa and elf mold used here for those who never got lucky with the CMF packages.

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By in United Kingdom,

SOOOO disappointed!! reindeer, why oh why are you not a new moulded animal!! such a shame after last years wonderful set with specially printed horses! lets hope that there is some amazing detail on the other side!! really is a disappointment, I sad!

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By in United States,

I think once again I'll be passing. I almost passed on the Cottage after that $100 price tag, but it was just such an excellent set! Last year's didn't impress me, though, and neither does this. (Good thing, too--still on track for a painless Benny's spaceship purchase when it's released!)

The "Expand the Winter Village" contests on Eurobricks have turned up some fantastic ideas. A church and a trainstation particularly stand out. I know we'll never get a church out of Lego, but a train station seems like a no-brainer to me.

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By in United Kingdom,

> I know we'll never get a church out of Lego
I don't know. They have done a couple in the past, notably #4766 featured a small chapel. While it was more a hiding place for skeletons, it had close to zero relevance to the plot, so they could easily have missed it out but chose to include it...

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By in United States,

The price will probably be an insane amount of money, like $80-$100, which is really too much for what you get.

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By in United States,

^Matthew, I would have to argue that the building in #4766 is a mausoleum, not a chapel. A mausoleum is a burial vault (hence the hiding place for skeletons) and while sometimes attached to a church, there is quite a difference. I agree with ra226 that we won't be getting a church from TLG.

As far as this set, I like it and love the reindeer! I would much rather brick build animals and such than have a new giant piece that is only good for one thing.

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By in United Kingdom,

I don't see it as an actual Santa's workshop (i.e. a fantasy world). I see it more like the Santa's grotto type workshop, with actors and fake reindeer. Obviously, that isn't LEGO's intention, or else they would have gone for a more "grotto" type set with children, but I like it and will put it in the village as a pretend Santa's workshop.

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By in United States,

I actually like the reindeer and sleigh- so much NPU, and the result is pretty charming!

The workshop looks just like the cottage as far as style goes, only smaller. Depending on price, this might be the first WV set I pick up.

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By in United States,

I don't understand why people are saying fantasy world... Santa is real people. LEGO confirms it!

I don't love the design of the building, but it's okay. I like seeing some old pieces in new colors. I don't mind the brick built reindeer, but I'd prefer a mold. I can understand how that would raise the cost, but this is already going to be expensive. I don't see them going below $100 ever again personally. Once LEGO ups the price, they stick with it.

I liked last years, but not for the price tag. The same with this year. Especially considering I already have Santa and I bought handfuls of the elves last Christmas...so now that was a waste basically. Thanks TLG for making me second guess my LEGO purchases. And I like how they can continue to re-use the same torsos, but throw an elf hat on them to justify it....

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By in United States,

Kinda weird because it's small, yet has lots of clutter. At a glance, I wouldn't want to spend more than $50 on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was $100.

I like that it could be either fantasy Santa or Mall Santa's photo land (wonder which elf is David Sedaris? ;)

Overall kind "eh" reaction, but can't be worse than the Market from last year.

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By in Canada,

Looks great to me with all the details. The sleigh is beautiful and the toy conveyor belt is smart.

As for the criticism "It will probably cost [some made up number] which is just too much to ask" - talk about setting yourself up for disappointment.

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By in Australia,

It looks nice enough, an LEGO can never win. If they made single piece moulded reindeer people would complain about the lack of bricks being used these days. It's interesting that the set is missing the "Winter Village" prefix, so it makes it more of a stand alone rather than an addition to the existing village...

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By in United States,

Oh my, this set is amazing. Those who don't think this will go well with the other Winter Village sets can just pretend it is one of those "fake Santa" grotto places. I can do without the reindeer, though... would have loved a new mold!

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By in United States,

Why can't they do a reindeer mould? :_(

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By in Greece,

Whilst the set is fine in and of itself, it seems like the Winter Village theme has come to an end. In addition to the "North Pole"/Fantasy setting contrasting with the more realist early C.20th European WV setting, the set also lacks most of the trademark winter village features: lamp-post, bench, several different focal points in each set, different style of wreath/decoration, disparate collection of minifigures etc. Other tell-tale signs include the non rectangular baseplate ... I wonder if the back of the set will be open ?

For the first time, I probably won't get this set as it just won't fit in with the other five sets and all the various promotional add-ons, which is a huge shame as the annual winter village addition has been a genuine highlight of our family's year.

It's not that I think this is a particularly bad execution of a Santa's Workshop ... I don't. It's just that it marks a big departure from the Winter Village theme which. to many fans, has now effectively ended, sadly after only 5 years and with so many vignettes never being created.

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By in United States,

I may have missed it but has it been said anywhere that there won't be another winter set and this one is it? Don't like brick build animals when there are mini figures in a set. I think it's a nice stand alone, or it could be used a kids fun Playland for the winter village.

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By in United States,

I personally love the reindeer and everything about this set! It seems to me it is a little tilted and crooked in some spots, like a fairytale building, and the tree is much superior to previous ones, and that sleigh is fantastic! The candy canes are also a nice touch, as well as the north pole in the back too! Very neat set.
I'm looking forward to it...
(I also think there might be a chance this isn't the winter village set this year, maybe there's one winter village for this year along with this one...)
You can always hope :)

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By in Germany,

Somehow the House reminds me of one building I saw when I visited the Santa Claus Village ( http://www.santaclausvillage.info ) near Rovaniemi, Finland some years back. This is supposed the place where he lives (or this is what the finish people say there).

In my opinion it is a nice building, even the Reindeers start to look cute. And we get a new skirt, as well as a red bag - and more cookies (yum).

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By in Australia,

I like it, but honestly, there's so much more they could do with the Winter Village theme. Yeah, we'll never get a church, but a train station, restaurant/cafe or hotel seem like a foregone conclusion, and I hope it continues.

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By in United States,

For those wondering why Rudolph isn't in this set, it's because he was not one of Santa's original Reindeer.

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By in United States,

@ra226 A church would be a great idea for a winter village, but then if they make a church they would have to make other places of worship because that's the world we live in nowadays.

I do agree with many of you. Lego should have made a new mold. Brick builts
animals for lack of a better word suck.

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By in United States,

It does have lamps, and the set number is in the ballpark, so I don't think it's time to write off Winter Village just yet, is it? I was really hoping for a train or station this year though. Joe

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By in Taiwan,

It's the first set to be outside the typical box of Winter Village, but still a very decent addition. For many reasons(?) it would sell much better than Winter Market. I agree that the building could have been better. The other concern is that this is oviously smaller than previous Winter sets, would it get a lower price too?

Buildable deers are alittle debatable. TLG is willnig to make a new husky sleigh for City but no reindeer sleigh for this set? Oh, however since it would be regarded as a Creator set, I can understand why TLG tend to use building rather than maknig molds. (Meanwhile, ironically Friends already introduced a fawn figure, the picky FOLs might have to buy four polybags and then MOC it).
And BTW, Mrs. Claus is obviously the star of this set. But I might wish that TLG could have made her a CMF with a more detailed design.

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By in United States,

I like everything about it -- except for the reindeer.

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By in United States,

lights across the top = placement next to Winter Village Bakery's ice skating rink. I'm finding the reindeer cute. Plus, if a person wants to build more reindeer, I wonder if we'll see the needed parts on PAB walls this December?

I like seeing the clock show up in another set, and the gold, and the golden elephant noses :) I like seeing how the front porch is designed here (have we seen a partial pillar design like this from TLG?). The antique street sign on the right-side of the image is a nice touch, IMO, too.

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By in Australia,

I don't think this photo is from the Fairground set, as some have suggested. It looks like it is from a polybag set because it has numerous creases through the picture, like a folded instruction sheet from a polybag, and what looks like a parts callout in the top left. Any suggestions as to what polybag, maybe the upcoming snowman one.
I really like the set and it will go great with my other winter village sets.

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By in United States,

krollins, I imagine Rudolph is not in this set because the character is copyrighted. I don't believe Lego has ever represented him.

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By in Taiwan,

I like this better than last year's Market. However, I would like to see this as the upper part of two sets that fit together (like Jabba's palace and the Rancor pit). Underneath should be set 4000001-1, so we could really see those elves hard at work.

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By in United States,

Looks good to me! I will simply put it upstairs (in the North Pole) instead of with the others. "Problem" solved!

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By in United States,

So we get molded horses, dog, and an owl in the other winter sets but have to put up with crappy looking reindeer? Why is the toy conveyor belt outside? They have to make the toys braving the elements?? Why have a Toy Shop to sell toys when Santa is right there to give them to kids?? Wow, this is a major let down to add to my Winter Village scene. I was expecting a "Santa's Workshop" as in "hey, let's take the kids to visit Santa" kind of thing. We had one in our downtown area every year during December. Well, I guess Lego will not be getting my $100 this Black Friday. I'll have to buy the bonus sets off of ebay for the first time.

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By in Belgium,

I think the reindeers look rather cute, and fit in well considering the Christmas theme. Moulded ones might look too hard for this set, but these ones match perfectly the "toylike" theme.

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By in Germany,

@Schwallex: Very nice animals!!

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By in Belgium,

To all who want molded reindeers: start buying Playmobil.
Lego are bricks and bricks are meant to build what you want. Once upon a time even horses were made of bricks. And when I was tired of playing knight I could use the same bricks for a house or fantastic spaceship. I do not like all these new Friends animals as it makes all the sets very expensive. Keep using your imagination.

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By in Malaysia,

Do I see a sign in the background saying 'North Pole'?

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By in United States,

Where are people getting $100 for this set? Unless there's a lot of stuff in the back, I see this as a $60-$80 (US) set tops.

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By in Malaysia,

Looking at it, there's at least 20 pieces in each of the reindeer, which makes 100pieces. Let's say 50 - 75 each in the sleigh and conveyor, making 100 - 150, then probably another 50 in the figures, sign, tree etc, so you're looking at 250 - 300 pieces before you even start on the building. Assuming the building is reasonably large and detailed (it looks larger than the Toy Shop), you'd have to estimate between 700 and 900 pieces, giving a total of about 1000 - 1200 pieces for the set, which would be likely to have an RRP of about £70 - £80, which would probably be about $100.

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By in Netherlands,

I wonder if the "free gifts" this year are related to this set. Maybe an extra elf or so.... Or a chimney with milk and cookies...

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By in United Kingdom,

Not that it means anything, but while on the subject of Playmobil it's worth noting that they have not only got away with making a church (possibly more than one) but also a Nativity scene. And unlike LEGO you can't use the parts to build some other place of worship...

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By in United Kingdom,

Love it. Love the elephant trunks on the sleigh skids, love the cute cartoon-like reindeer with their printed eye-bricks (and note the baby one in the background), love the use of SNOT slopes at the base of the tree, love the bracket-fangs as icicles, love the universal-toy-machine, love the pillars beside the door (I'm occasionally cheered up by seeing some of the techniques we used in LEGO Universe models influencing designers). Maybe a bit of Wallace & Gromit / Shaun the Sheep influence sneaking in here as well... ;-)

As someone said, 'Rudolph' is subject to copyright, but a 1x1 round plate in trans-red could easily be substituted on a nose - I'm pretty sure there'll be a spare one in the box once you've built everything. At least the sled isn't pulled by dogs as in a poly-bag set a few years ago!

A set in this Exclusive range never sells enough units to warrant a new mould of its own. It may get some new coloured pieces and a sticker sheet - occasionally a new printed item too - but its production budget won't stretch to new shapes.

The only thing I think it's missing is the conical, fir-tree influenced, roofs of that genuine Santa village resort, since loosely attached peaked roofs are getting a bit old-hat now, after numerous winter village sets and Lake Town.

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By in Taiwan,

@ romdam
> Why have a Toy Shop to sell toys when Santa is right there to give them to kids??
Because the Toy Shop is the Santa to AFOLs :P.

I agree that it's not the perfection, but not a letdown to me or some other FOLs. Using new molds is another story, the deers here are still cute.

@ Joefish
Yes, looks like the building is not as big as the previous four winter village buildings, so I assume that the price would also get a change?

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By in United States,

I think the reindeer look quite charming, and have no problem whatever with building them out of bricks. This is LEGO, after all--you're supposed to do it that way.

Also, to those citing huskies and owls as evidence that they should just have molded the reindeer too, you're forgetting the size of the animals involved here. Those are small, single piece animals. To do a reindeer on par with the current horse would take three or four new molds produced just for one very niche animal.

All that said, I don't like how this doesn't really fit in with the other Winter Village sets. Then again, I haven't seen the Winter Village branding anywhere, so maybe it isn't intended to. Either way, I'd prefer another building to add to the town.

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By in Malaysia,

Cows are a pre-existing piece though, as are horses. Reindeer aren't, and it would be prohibitively expensive for them to produce a new piece just for this one set.

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By in United States,

If they made a molded reindeer for just this set it could be used again. If we get any new forest police set, logging sets, or if they make a Bambi set in the Disney line. All it would need is a different printing or color molding to work.

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By in United States,

Wow, how times have changed. Not too long ago it was popular among AFOLs that everything be as brick-built as possible. Even the premolded castle gate pieces would draw negative comments. These days it is all about new molds.

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By in United States,

I like it better than last years set which I passed on. I will probably be getting this one!

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By in Germany,

What is it with all this new-mold talk? We already have 6500+ molds. Now go and *build* something new out of them. Seriously.

Even minifigs have to be built out of many parts, so what do you need a one-piece giant animal for?

Next up, you'll be asking for a single-mold police car or A380. This is LEGO and not Playmobil.

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By in United States,

Unlike much of the criticism here, I'm glad they went with brick-built reindeer. Custom molds are OK in certain instances (like in licensed themes to accurately portray the subject material), but otherwise I think it looks like cheating a little. As Schwallex stated above, "This is LEGO and not Playmobil."

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By in United States,

I agree with the article that I'd really like Lego to go back to the size and price of the first three ($55-$70), instead of the bigger and pricier $100 that the last two set have been. Christmastime is already hard on the budget...

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By in United States,

There's just certain things that should be moulds and not be brick-built. I'm sure we'll all agree that we would rather have tyre parts for vehicles rather than brick-built ones. For animals I've always preferred moulds simply because a reindeer made out of bricks would look silly next to a moulded cow in a LEGO zoo.

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By in United Kingdom,

It maybe me, but instead of the reindeer, the sleigh and the elves and wotnot, the bit that most interests me is the christmas tree in the foreground, it looks new and exciting!

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By in United Kingdom,

No one was moaning that the horses in last years set was molded even when they could have been brick built as they were part of a ride and no one moaned at the husky dogs or bears in city being molded. So I think it is fair that we want molded reindeer as the brick built ones look odd next to other molded animals. I don't like big molded parts unless its for living things, next you will be telling us that we should want the hulk to be brick built because its not Playmobil.

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By in United Kingdom,

Looking at the building itself, it looks a bit odd and the base plates are all over the place - do you think it possibly "hinges out/inwards"? So that you can have it in different positions?

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By in Norway,

I like it! I don`t care about the not-molded reindeers at all. It`s L-e-g-o folks, putting pieces together. I think this set fits well with the previous sets in the Winter Village lineup. A must-buy, can`t stop now..

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By in United States,

Wow, those brick built cows are dreadful.

I'm personally not disappointed with the reindeer, but they do look a bit goofy. I wouldn't mind new molds, and think the people who are anit-new molds have an ironically rigid mindset despite proclaiming creativity.

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By in United Kingdom,

The more I look at this (and The Toymaker backs up my earlier point) the more I think it folds/hinges around on itself - to make a very small compact building - which is why the main "machine" does not fit into the building. Also - to back this up - it has TWO DOORS visible! You are looking at one of those Lego pictures that makes the set look "bigger" than it really is. I will buy it - but it will not be a part of my Winter Village - it will be close by!

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By in New Zealand,

Its pretty ironic people complaining that the reindeer aren't a single moulded piece. I think you completely misunderstand the whole point of Lego if you prefer that to these brick built ones.

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By in United Kingdom,

Its pretty ironic people wanting a 4 stud brick when you can just have 4 1 stud bricks or people liking minifigures when they just used to make brick built people

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By in Australia,

I think this set is terrible. The reindeer are grotesque and the elves aren't dressed in the authentic style.

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By in United Kingdom,

Looks a nice festive set to me (I expect kids will love it) however bit quite as good as the winter village sets which I proudly own all (except the bakery).

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By in United States,

antsbull, et al:

Come on, guys, get off your high horse. I can only imagine it's a tantrum at the road Lego is already barreling down by making more and more molds and ruining the unrealistic vision you have for the brand, but really. Everyone has something they don't like about Lego (mine is the "action figure" lines and abysmal playset worlds of Ninjago and Chima) but acting as if people who like diversity "just don't get it"? Unless you only build with classic 2x4 bricks, I don't want to hear it.

Lego will only make more and more molds, live with it.

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By in United States,

Well said, Dan.

I think this is a rather mediocre addition to the winter line, but will certainly still add it to my collection.

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By in Hungary,

I love the reindeers, they are cute! I like that they are brick-built, but I accept that some of you would be happier with single-molded ones. Peace!

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By in United States,

Being a "completist" I will definitely add this to my collection. I'm not crazy about the reindeer but I don't think it's a reason to skip the set. The house looks adorable and I really like the sleigh and conveyor belt.

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