Batman cowl revealed!
Posted by Huw,
Another forthcoming Super Heroes 'helmet' has been revealed by US retailer Barnes and Noble.
The 410-piece 76182 Batman Cowl will retail for $60 and can be pre-ordered now. It appears that it'll ship on 26th April.
News via Hoth Bricks.
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That clear section in the mouth looks weird to me
Y'all know how quick I am to come to Lego's defense when it comes to pricing, but $60 for 410 is pretty gross. At least the Iron Man had 480 with a fair amount of Gold Ink
Meh, the clear section looks too weird, thanks, but I'll pass
Yes, what is it with that mouth? Doesn't look right at all.
@Huw said:
"Yes, what is it with that mouth? Doesn't look right at all."
I feel like it's meant to be a glass stand or dummy head, but the effect isn't pulled off in the photos for sure. A white center would've probably been a better way to go, if they're hesitant to do a human mouth
So if they do a Rebel Pilot helmet, it'll look like this with the transparent stuff? Yecch.
I would not have thought Lego sets that are nothing but display-piece heads would sell but Lego keeps coming out with them. So someone must be buying them.
Well, this looks great and I am no Batman fan but still, that clear mouth part should have been better without pieces.
This is a “close, but not quite” for me. The bulk of it looks good but there’s some issues. I Feel like they should’ve dropped the chin strap entirely. It looks a little odd, and some iterations of the costume don’t have it anyways so. And yeah, the clear head doesn’t quite work either.
I’ve really liked the helmets collection, I even like IM and am looking forward to Vader. But just not sure about this at all. I think they should have doubled down on the part count and gone for a full batman head including proper mouth and eyes, maybe even a similar scale to 10018
And they said BrickHeadz were weird and ugly... These are BrickHeadz 2.0.
idk this just doesn't do much for me
Ah... nope.
40386 is so much better, and a fraction of the price.
@jnscoelho said:
"And they said BrickHeadz were weird and ugly... These are BrickHeadz 2.0."
I think that's the point,
This should’ve been amazing. What is going on with the mouth. Very disappointing. Got excited at first look.
I like the helmets range - got them all except one, but this I don't think I'll be buying. Definitely not a fan. I do wonder if the issue might be that Batman's cowl has come in many forms over the years, and I'm not sure which this is meant to be, if any. Is it Keaton? (it has the Batman 1989 logo on the box). Also I think without the mouth it just looks weird, which I know is a silly thing to say and I wouldn't expect LEGO to attempt to build a mouth in to it, but I still don't like it.
Well one can understand the intention there, but even so it just looks weird. To me the mouth section of the mask gives an impression as if Batman is yawning or screaming in terror. EDIT: or a mouth visor...
I don't think that they've got any of these busts right yet
So he is eating a windshield?
Very underwhelming after seeing the previous helmet releases.
It's because he has a glass jaw, badum tish.
There's no reason why this set should be $60. That's absolutely ridiculous. The build is okay but I don't think cowls work well in this style, especially not with a background that dark behind the mouth. It just looks like Batman screaming.
This is great!
And BrickHeadz are weird and creepy, not to mention knockoffs of POP! figurines.
Huge Batman fan so yes I will be getting this
But not at that price.
Can't you just remove the transparent pieces from the mouth and leave it open?
Not usually one to immediately start hating on things, but this really does look awful in my opinion
As others have said, the mouth part is not very attractive. Being a cowl, with exposed skin, I get it. But I think that just means it’s not as suitable for one of these busts. Or maybe change it to all white at least.
Hopefully the Suez Canal is unblocked soon and we can actually receive it on the 26th of April!
Wow, that's awful. Not much to add that hasn't already been said. Some really bizarre choices here. I'd much rather see a 3-d bricksketch of sorts. Whatever the case, this ain't it.
If I didn't know what side Batman was on already I would presume from this that he is on the side of evil.
@jdm said:
"I don't think that they've got any of these busts right yet"
It seems tricky to execute for sure
That's a wrong un, that.
Almost feels like this one needed part of the cape/symbol with the cowl.
But dig some of the smoothness...;)
Looks very bad and the price is very high, whether in a vacuum or compared to literally any of the other helmet-style sets. Easy pass from me. I understand that it's much harder to sculpt a human face than a helmet from LEGO but surely there was a better way to deal with the empty space than a strangely positioned canopy glass with visible studs!
For everyone questioning the cockpit in the mouth, I can tell you what is likely going on. Batman generally gets depicted in one of two ways. In live-action, you can see his eyes because it’s the only way the actor can see without using CGI like they did in Deadpool. They fill in around the actual eyeballs with black makeup, so it looks like the coal goes right up to the edge of the eyelashes (and closes when you blink), but you still see part of the person’s head. For print, animation, or toys, the eyes are usually blank white because it looks weird when they fill in the eyeballs.
This is clearly meant to represent the latter, with white parts inside the eyeholes to mimic the original comic look. The stand except for the base is also white (no, seriously, you can just make it out), but all the parts you can see are hidden behind trans-smoke plastic. Most likely this was done to make the eyes stand out better. The base of the stand is black, so you can’t use black for the rest or it’ll all blend in with the black cowl. If you use white for the upper portion of the stand, it looks like they eyes are just holes. If you make the upper part of the stand any other color, it just looks bad. So smoke over white looks sorta black, but not black enough to blend in with the cowl, not white enough to blend in with the eyes, and not like you couldn’t pick a color and stick with it (especially when it’s the _only_ one of these with a non-black stand).
Or, and I’m only saying this because clearly I plan to do so, they intend for us to mod this into a giant flying Batcowlship.
@Snaz:
I’m not going to say no, but I will say it doesn’t have to. The Rebel Alliance doesn’t build only in black, and sometimes very, very dark grey. They could make a solid black stand and the helmet will look fine. They could make it just about any shade but white and most of the helmets we’ve seen in the movies would look fine. If they can pick a non-white helmet, and actually figure out how to mimic the color scheme (personally, I’m expecting Luke’s from Ep4, since it only needs a little bit of colored trim and two Rebel emblems in solid red), they could go with a white stand because it’ll stand out from the helmet.
@kolaxanthe:
It does not have the ‘89 Batman logo. If it was the movie logo, it would be black on gold, not yellow. If it was the ‘89 Batsuit logo, it would have a weird triple tail that they dropped for Batman Returns. Speaking of which, that had both a movie logo and a Batsuit logo that looked like this, but the origin of the oval shield logo is the Silver Age Batman era, which had pretty much wrapped up before Burton got involved.
It's transparent for all to see that Batman is clearly just masking up to help stop the spread of Coronavirus.
The pricing alone is enough to turn me off, and that windshield mouth piece makes it so much worse. Maybe a very large sticker printed with a screaming mouth going across the length of it would get the set to sell?
I guess these things are popular? I consider myself a superhero fan but this sparks zero desire in me personally (I'm much more likely to part with my gold pieces for minifigs). Different strokes for different folks!
I'll buy venom next instead..
The last time I saw a mouth in the Batman lore that was this creepy was Heath Ledger’s Joker.
But I think this takes the cake.
Looks like a black Green Goblin mask instead.
@Huw said:
"Yes, what is it with that mouth? Doesn't look right at all."
You can try to put a goat inside :)))
Now if only they would do more DC characters.
Six days too early. This cannot be real!
What the....is that!?
This is good but it could be better! Lol..
Must be the George Clooney Cowl!
I like the shape of the cowl itself but personally I think they should have gone with an animated series Batman head and fleshed out the mouth of the cowl in a similar style to the Brick Sketches Batman.
Pretty sure the clear piece in the mouth of the cowl is for stability when handling the helmet/cowl.
If you grab it wrong or quickly it'll probably snap some pieces in that area.
@MugenLazlo:
I hear next up is a pair of glasses on a mannequin head.
60 dollars for 410 pieces and that weird transparent section? I'm a pretty big Bat Fan, but no thanks. Might pick up the plaque on Bricklink and makes something better for cheaper...
Batman is my favourite comic character, so this interests me, simply because it is Batman. However, the image doesn't really make it a must buy. I will reserve judgement for better images I think. The Darth Vader sets I have seen, look better than the box art, so hoping here for the same.
I shared this with my Fiancée. Her reply "When you wanted Bale but ended up with Affleck".
Early April Fools day joke?
Holy yikes, Batman
The set: fail
Comment section: win
I wonder what this would look like with nothing in the face area. I think this looks ok, but the price doesn’t sound ok.
Yeah, this is a bust.
@kazar14 said:
"Yeah, this is a bust."
It would be, if it had shoulders.
@Ssorg said:
"The set: fail
Comment section: win"
The brickset comments section is sometimes the best part of a Lego reveal. And it's free!
DC cash grab. Not a good rendition and not a good set. Just my opinion.
@fakespacesquid said:
" @Huw said:
"Yes, what is it with that mouth? Doesn't look right at all."
I feel like it's meant to be a glass stand or dummy head, but the effect isn't pulled off in the photos for sure. A white center would've probably been a better way to go, if they're hesitant to do a human mouth"
Could be to inflate the piece count and justify the high price. A white center would have at least matched the eyes. Otherwise, shouldn't they also be clear?
Now do superman! ??
Oh dear, what a disaster. ...really, you’d want to display that? Maybe in a dentist’s reception to make you wonder a bit.
Why oh why did I get interested in Batman as well as Star Wars?! skint
Truly awful without the exposed part of the face
Pleased that it’s an easy pass for me.
I think this is based on the cowl for the new Batman movie. Not to happy with the transparent part, but I think it’s not dificult to change that.
Now I want a catwoman cowl to go with it.
looks like he lost his dentures somewhere
Would've looked a lot better without the chinstrap. That said, hard pass from me. I can't unsee batman violently screaming.
@PurpleDave said:
" @MugenLazlo:
I hear next up is a pair of glasses on a mannequin head."
Glasses?
As peculiar as the transparent parts are, I could see them coming in handy for creating support struts for spaceships if you swapped 'em out with your own moc of Batman's face
Dark blue on a black stand (and no trans) would’ve solved a lot of problems here.
Let's see. Looks weird, insanely overpriced.
All the ingredients for a perfect shelf warmer.
Thanks but no thanks.
@manjeroque said:
" @Huw said:
"Yes, what is it with that mouth? Doesn't look right at all."
You can try to put a goat inside :)))"
As awful as this set is, your comment made me burst out laughing. ;-))
@MugenLazlo:
You...seriously? Most famous glasses in all of comic books? Dude with the spitcurl?
The comic pics on the back of the box have short Frank Miller style ears. Couldn't they have found something that actually mimics the model?
Or just have based it on Bale or Keaton so it fits with the 2008 Iron Man helmet? This tries to please everyone but just pleases no one.
@RocketPak said:
"I shared this with my Fiancée. Her reply "When you wanted Bale but ended up with Affleck"."
"I'm more of a Keaton guy, myself."
@TheOtherMike said:
" @RocketPak said:
"I shared this with my Fiancée. Her reply "When you wanted Bale but ended up with Affleck"."
"I'm more of a Keaton guy, myself.""
I’m more of a West guy myself. ;)
@PurpleDave said:
"The stand except for the base is also white (no, seriously, you can just make it out), but all the parts you can see are hidden behind trans-smoke plastic."
I can try as hard as I like but I can't make out any white pieces behind those trans-black ones.
More like Batman scowl
@iabstract said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @Huw said:
"Yes, what is it with that mouth? Doesn't look right at all."
I feel like it's meant to be a glass stand or dummy head, but the effect isn't pulled off in the photos for sure. A white center would've probably been a better way to go, if they're hesitant to do a human mouth"
Could be to inflate the piece count and justify the high price. A white center would have at least matched the eyes. Otherwise, shouldn't they also be clear?"
The back of the box shows comic art, so the white eyes are definitely the right choice in that regard
@Cooliocdawg:
West was a jerk who hated his fanbase. His show nearly killed the Batman franchise when they tailored the comics to be more in the style of his show, and he personally nearly did it again with this:
https://www.slashfilm.com/1989-batman-documentary/
@AustinPowers:
In the upper 2/3rds of the mouth area, you can see some vertical lines. These exactly match the width of 1x bricks seen in other parts of the image, and you can tell that they're a lighter color of plastic. If the lighter patch was only visible in the product shot, I could say maybe it was just a reflection, but you can still see that same light patch in the third image where it's a home setting with no white decor visible. If those parts aren't white, they're certainly no darker than light-bley.
@PurpleDave: I'm sorry, I still can't see it. Either it's an optical illusion or my eyes are getting old. ;-)
@PurpleDave
That still doesn’t diminish my love for the show and the campy-as-all-get-out movie. Also, just curious, why did you feel the need to make that comment?
At least this won't divert any funds that I am saving up for last years 1989 Batwing 76161
@PurpleDave said:
"The stand except for the base is also white (no, seriously, you can just make it out), but all the parts you can see are hidden behind trans-smoke plastic."
If there are parts inside, they actually seem to be black instead of white.
60 USD for mostly just regular, unprinted and unspecialized bricks is just insulting. We've seen how great value for money LEGO can be with sets like Ninjago and Pirates of Barracuda Bay (among many other examples).
But hey, the box says 18+, so I guess this means it *has* to be overpriced? sigh...
@kolaxanthe said:
"(it has the Batman 1989 logo on the box)."
that's the 1966 logo
@BelgianBricker said:
" @kolaxanthe said:
"(it has the Batman 1989 logo on the box)."
that's the 1966 logo"
I don't think it's exactly the '89 logo, but it's definitely not the '66. That one is much more squat
@BelgianBricker:
When you say “1966”, people are immediately going to assume you mean the TV show.
@fakespacesquid:
https://medium.com/the-designest/the-emergence-of-the-batman-logo-through-time-and-space-92a9071bbbab
https://screenrant.com/batman-infographic-every-batsuit/
Those are some great resources for the evolution of the Batman logo and Batsuit, respectively. When Batman first appeared, through the end of the Golden Age, he basically looked like someone had stapled a bat to his chest (and, due to the inconsistency of Golden Age art, it changed enough that you’d think it was still alive). In 1964, eight years after the Barry Allen Flash ushered in the Silver Age, they gave Batman a yellow oval around this bat-shape. Two years later, the show appears to have borrowed that design. And, like spotting Spaceballs in your neighborhood, the comics changed the logo right afterwards. 1966 is when the Silver Age shield logo with the stylized oval-shaped bat first appeared. It would be used for the various iterations of Superfriends, and would remain in constant use until Frank Miller actually justified the design (can’t armor-plate your face!) in the first issue of The Dark Knight Returns...and then immediately tossed it to the side in favor of a logo that looked like then Golden Age version in steroids.
It didn’t go away completely, though. The two Burton films, and the Batman Returns Batsuit both used it (‘89 Batsuit had a triple tail design that you can see at the first link). It returned to Comics for the Troika storyline after Bruce healed up from the broken back that Bane gave him in Knightfall (there was magic involved). And it was used for the original Batman: The Animated Series costume.