I'll Grab the Ahsoka vs Darth Maul set, mostly for the Minifigs though!

On Instagram there's two or three more to be released one has Moff Gideon in it and it looks huge!!

I might go for both of them:

Ashoka is missing from my Star Wars minifigures (and I like her, but the price for her Starfighter is insane).

Not sure about the Mandalorian fighter, but as I have Pre Vizla's Mandalorian Starfighter, this could be a nice companion. Assuming the USD price as posted translates into Euros 1 vs 1 or close to it, the price does not seem too bad for a Star Wars set.

did you see the print turned sideways on the clear panel in one of the pics for the maul/Ashoka duel? wierd.

@Chemistry2101 said:
"It’s almost as if they want to use the same helmet for the Armourer from the Mandalorian at some point in the future and instead of getting the length right for either character they went for a halfway house that’s not really accurate to any source material."

Yes, I heard they had to do it.

@Vladtheb:
@captaincassianandor:
As I said in the other thread, standard lightsaber hilt, matching telescope (this does limit your color options quite a bit), and two 3L blades. 4L is way too long to begin with, and looks like they were trying to out-Hasbro Hasbro’s first batch of action figures where a standard lightsaber is as long as the person wielding it is tall.

Anyways, this build is about the same length as the lightsaber they show Maul with here, BUT, he can hold it in a 2-handed grip. I came up with this back when they made Santa Maul and I realized they made 3L blades in trans-red and trans-bright green (perfect for Christmas, and the green is also a better match than TNG).

I really just want the figures in each of these sets. Buying Bo, Gar, and the loyalist on secondary is probably going to be unreasonably expensive relative to the set cost. Ugh

Apologies @PurpleDave , I missed your comment on the previous article. Didn’t mean to retread old ground

@captaincassianandor said:
" @Vladtheb said:
"Disappointed that they didn’t use the new long hilt piece for Maul’s saber. Oh well, fantastic sets otherwise!"

I must say, I ‘m not sure a larger hilt piece would work. I appreciate that Darth Maul’s lightsaber is larger in the movies, but the LEGO dual ended lightsaber already looks huge in the hand of a minifigure. I suspect a longer hilt would make the weapon about the same size as Rey’s staff. I haven’t seen the new piece in person so I could be wrong, but I suspect it would make the lightsaber look far too large in the hands of a minifigure."

I think if they used the new hilt, with 3L bars instead of 4L, it would be a good length. If I remember my specs correctly, the blades are slightly shorter on saber staffs.

@ahughwilliams said:
"i'm glad the front of the sarcophagus is a clear printed panel, i was worried it'd be solid. (they should have done the same thing for he bad batch shuttles canopy...)"

It perfectly captures the look of it in the show, with the tiny window for his face.

I love these sets, though $20 seems a bit much for 75310 Duel on Mandalore. The starfighter looks really nice.

Hoping to get both of these and 75311 and 75314 just from the ones leaked yesterday, as well as Scout Trooper helmet just from this Star Wars wave so I’d better start saving up...

The graphic design on Maul's little cell looks like a sticker to me.

Duel on Mandalore reminds me of 79005 with the two important figures and small throne build. Looking at the price of the two shows 75310 to be a little expensive for what it is though

@ALEGOMan said:
"I thought ashoka had white lightsabers? Is it too hard for lego to make them? Every version of her has been from cartoon series, I want her true version from the Mandalorian show"

well, there's no trans-white colour, so I think it would be either trans blue or white bar

both star fighters seem to have pretty much same lenght on middle section, this new one looks so much shorter than the pre wizlas one

Absolutely fantastic sets!! The Maul/Ahsoka fuel is one of the best ever put to screen, great to see it represented in set form.

I was really hoping that they would make a new headpiece for Ahsoka this time around, the same for Bo-Katan. The ones they used are pretty unfitting. Oh well.

To paraphrase NSYNC, BUY, BUY, BUY!

Amazing sets, I’m really impressed. I’ll get them both if I can afford them (since I also want all the new HP and Infinity War ones). A difficult year for my wallet indeed!

Bo Katan official Lego minifig and helmet ! That makes my day !

Duel on Mandalore could easily be worth $20 if the windows and sarcophagus pieces were printed. That's really a big bummer! And, as much as I love the fighter…the underside and build are really strange. I wonder if you could make one really good one if you buy two?

@Chemistry2101 said:
" [...]. Would two moulds really be that bad when they do new moulds for CMFs all the time? [...] "

CMFs are kinda their own thing, as far as I'm aware. They are (or at least were) made pretty much separately from other Lego production, and with their comparatively short shelf lives, I assume each series is produced all at once. Storing parts during production and packaging (a major cost factor for introducing new parts) is probably less of an issue for them.

That hair piece is great for Bo - Katan, but I would have gone with the older hair piece that was used for minifigs like Luke from the first UCS Death Star, since it is flatter.

@Huw said:
"The CGI renders of the Mandalorians looks a bit ropy: too much texture on the surfaces which makes the printing look poor."

Alot of the official images for recently announced sets seem to not have the best CG renders

Darth Maul and Ahsoka, what’s not to love here. I want it.
I never cared for those mandalorian ships, but i do like Bo Katan! I think Lego did well here

@Huw said:
"The CGI renders of the Mandalorians looks a bit ropy: too much texture on the surfaces which makes the printing look poor."

I think we’re looking at an actual photo here.

They really went full mask-off with the price of that Maul/Ahsoka set, huh? Not even pretending they arent just price-gouging because they know the minifigs are highly desirable. I wouldnt pay $20 AUD for a set that size, much less $20 USD. Hopefully it at least gets a regular retail release so maybe it'll see some discounts, because the AAT with Ahsoka *didnt* here in Australia, and I can only think of one reason why...

Both look good to me. I’ll take Maul vs Ahsoka any day. The fighter is also impressive for the figures.

I love these new Mandalorian and Clone Wars sets, but I don't know how I could afford them when I already want the Bad Batch Shuttle and Daily Bugle!

That small set looks like a treat not only for SW fans.

@ @Chemistry2101:
CMF is its own beast. They get unprecedented leeway to make new molds for the CMF theme, and for a long time any other theme that wanted to make use of those molds still had to pitch it like an original design, because they still had to cut a second copy of that mold. Things _may_ be a little different now (see below*).

@Anonym:
They do make a ton of molds for minifigs, but there are limits involved. If the parts are going to see a ton of use, even if only across one theme, sure, they'll spring for two molds in many cases. If they're going to make _one_ minifig, it doesn't justify the cost if there's a similar mold they can repurpose. How many other themes have they used the second Ironman helmet for? It's rarely perfect, but it's saved them from having to make several molds that they'd only use once.

@captaincassianandor:
Eh, that thread has reached Lower Daunting status due to the number of comments. It's easy for me to find, because it's my post, so I get to see it with a highlighted background. For anyone else, it's just part of the sea of white.

@FinBrick
Glitter trans-clear? Opalescent trans-clear? Regular trans-clear? With the new plastic, it doesn't sound like it'll be optically clear anyways.

@Rob42:
*CMFs from S1 all the way through HP2 were exclusively made in China. Every single packet listed China as the source of manufacture, and nothing else. This means that for any CMF accessories to make it into other themes, they had to cut a second copy of the mold for use in Europe (hence where there have been so many instances where there were different mold marks). For that reason, any time they wanted to borrow a CMF accessory in to another theme, they had to pitch it to their supervisor like a new element. I attended a session at Brickworld Chicago, which was presented by one of the Friends designers, and she said that hairstyles were the easiest to get approved because they could be used across so many other themes (if multiple themes could use the same part, there was more value in producing a new mold, and the originating theme maybe got a break on calling up a new mold?).

Unikitty was its own special thing, with its own special packet design, and not bearing the CMF logo (but still sold under that header on LEGO.com). And then TLM2 was the first run of the new packet design that continues through today. From then on, production was a worldwide affair. Parts come from "Denmark, Mexico, Hungary, China, and the Czech Republic". This could mean that more general-purpose parts are being made in Europe over China, just so those molds become available for use by other themes without having to jump through so many hoops. What it doesn't change is that CMF still gets to crank out more new molds than the number of minifigs they include in a new wave. Look at Looney Tunes. Every character has an exclusive head mold except Marvin, who has an exclusive helmet mold. Roadrunner also has a new tail and crest, and Speedy has a new tail as well. That's 15 new molds for 12 minifigs. And unless they do a general Looney Tunes theme, Speedy's tail might be the only one of those parts that ever gets reused.

@Brainslugged said:
"Why is Darth Maul hiding in that wardrobe?"

It’s a Mandalorian prison used to hold Jedi, or in this case, former Sith.

ok the new Mandalorian Fighter has some neat figures, but the ship itself? WOW that looks bad. The original 9525 Mandalorian Fighter absolutely puts this one to shame

All the minifigures look fantastic as always. Duel on Mandalore has a steep Star Wars tax (AKA milk Star Wars fans for more) since it's only two minifigs and completely basic bricks with stickers. I want it but I'll wait 6-9 months until Walmart does a price roll-back to $16. No, $4 never broke the bank but it's the principle of it. ;-)

Let Maul out of the closset!

@mafon2 said:
"Let Maul out of the closset!"

“You wanted this CHAOS!”

Kind of wish they had one Mandalorian next to either Ahsoka or Maul (maybe Maul, since the other comes with two Death Watch Mandalorians and Gar Saxon), but definitely awesome! I've been thinking which set I should get this year, and I think my final decision isn't one, but two!

Yes, I'm trying to hone my LEGO addiction by restricting it to one set a year... this didn't help!

Oh dang. The Asoka Darth Maul set was real. It looked like a fan design when I first saw the leaks. It's still cool tho.

Fan of the minifigs that are great, but not that much for the fighter. The underside of the wings makes them unfinished to me. I was expecting some improvements compared to the former Mandalorian fighter dated some years ago.

The Ahsoka vs. Maul set is something long overdo for the Clone Wars line imo, up to this point we’ve (almost?) exclusively gotten vehicles without significant location builds. Granted, there aren’t a ton of scenes that would justify their own set but I’d be satisfied with more ones like that in the future.

@ALEGOMan said:
"I thought ashoka had white lightsabers? Is it too hard for lego to make them? Every version of her has been from cartoon series, I want her true version from the Mandalorian show"

Her lightsabers spend most of The Clone Wars being a greenish-yellow colour. By her duel with Maul on Mandalore (which this set is based on), her lightsabers are blue because Anakin messed with them. She only gets her white sabers after the end of the Clone Wars and the rise of the Empire.

While I would also like a version of her from The Mandalorian season 2 (with her white sabers), it makes no sense whatsoever for that version to be included in this set.

A lot of people are criticizing the sets. I do not get it. They aren't perfect but they are a definite buy for me.

@ALEGOMan said:
"I thought ashoka had white lightsabers? Is it too hard for lego to make them? Every version of her has been from cartoon series, I want her true version from the Mandalorian show"

On the basis she was introduced in the animated series surely they are true to the set they have made.

@TrashGenguMain said:
" @Golem25 said:
"The gap on the Mandalorian Starfighter's cockpit is absolutely hideous, the designer should have done so much better there."

The underside of the wings is horrendous as well... I was really excited to hear that this set was being made, and I'm just disappointed with how the model looks."

The gap is for Bo-Katan’s arms. Seems to be a case of sacrificing accuracy/aesthetics for play functionality. If I was a kid, I’d want both Mandalorians to fit in the Mandalorian ship

The undersides of wings *never* have detail! I’m not at all upset with Lego for this choice. The wings would be so much thicker, it would reduce the quality of the model.

@Johnny__Thunder97 said:
"Speaking of edits to lightsabers, when will we get 3L bar instead of a 4L bar for Ahsoka's dual lightsabers, or Yoda's saber?"

Yes, especially since LEGO has made transparent green 3L bar pieces (for Simpson CMF Mr Burns). I have replaced my Yoda lightsaber with that piece and it looks so much more appropriate.

@Chemistry2101 said:
"As much as I appreciate the new mould for Gar Saxon’s helmet, comparison with images from TCW S7 shows just how much longer those horns needed to be. It’s almost as if they want to use the same helmet for the Armourer from the Mandalorian at some point in the future and instead of getting the length right for either character they went for a halfway house that’s not really accurate to any source material. Still, at least the horns weren’t printed on but I’d argue that once again TLG has gone for the bare minimum option. Would two moulds really be that bad when they do new moulds for CMFs all the time? Or if it’s not going to be reused for the Armourer, why not just get it right?"

They are using the same helmet for the Armourer this year. The figures leaked sometime last week.