21327 Typewriter announced!

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LEGO has officially announced the newest Ideas model!

21327 Typewriter, 2079 pieces

€199.99 / $199.99 / £179.99 / $329.99 AUD / $269.99 CAD

Available from the 1st of July, with VIP early access on the 16th of June

The LEGO Group reveals elegant new Typewriter set based on winning fan design

The LEGO Group has revealed the new LEGO Ideas Typewriter set which is set to delight the most seasoned wordsmiths and fans of all things vintage. Designed by LEGO fan, Steve Guinness from Chester, UK, as part of the LEGO Ideas platform, the LEGO Ideas Typewriter is based on a contemporary typewriter model of a bygone era, including the one used by LEGO Group founder Ole Kirk Christiansen.

Intricately designed to mirror the function and tactility of a classic typewriter, the LEGO Ideas Typewriter features a centre typebar that rises each time a letter key is pressed, linked to the carriage which moves across as you type, as well as a platen roller that real paper can be fed into.

In a fitting nod to the lost art of letter writing, the premium quality LEGO Typewriter set also comes with a letter written and signed by Thomas Kirk Kristiansen, chairman of the LEGO Group and a fourth-generation member of the family which still privately owns the business to this day.

The original concept for the typewriter came through LEGO fan Steve Guinness’ submission to the LEGO Ideas platform, a LEGO initiative that takes new ideas that have been imagined and voted for by fans and turns them into reality. Discussing his idea, Steve said: “I wanted to create something totally different from anything that LEGO has ever done before and showcase that you really can make anything out of LEGO. I bought a vintage typewriter for my research and then played around with bricks and the mechanism until I was happy with the design. I hope it will bring nostalgia to adult fans like me, and wonder and curiosity to younger fans who might not have ever seen a real typewriter!”

While the concept of the typewriter dates back to the early 18th century, Steve’s design, and the LEGO design team’s development of it, captures the styling cues of the modern 20th century typewriters, which still have a cult following today.

Federico Begher, VP of Global Marketing at LEGO Group commented: “It’s not hard to see why the vintage typewriter has such enduring appeal, and Steve’s incredible replica is a thoroughly worthy LEGO Ideas success story.

“For many, the escape from the connected world to the simplicity of the typewriter is a similar experience to the mindful process of building with LEGO bricks. Here, we have a LEGO set that combines these two worlds seamlessly and like its real-life counterparts, is something LEGO fans will be proud to display in their homes.”

The LEGO Typewriter is available to buy from 16th June 2021 via LEGO VIP early access and will be on sale on LEGO.com/ideas from 1st July.


Will you be purchasing this set?

Yes, as soon as it's released
Yes, eventually
Maybe, I haven't decided yet
No, but I like it
No, it's too expensive
No, it doesn't interest me

Additional images are available on the set details page.

What do you think of this unusual set? Answer the poll and let us know in the comments.

215 comments on this article

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By in Austria,

was not expecting the sand green! lovely!

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By in Portugal,

Wow. Just wow.

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By in United States,

Man, that's beautiful. And the price is better than I expected. Looking forward to the designer video and review to see all the functionality. I love it but it's not really in my wheelhouse.

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By in United Kingdom,

Can I save my game on it, though?

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By in United States,

What's the part out value? ;)

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By in Canada,

Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?

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By in United Kingdom,

While its not for me personally... Wow that is amazingly accurately detailed and well built.

Also, off topic slightly... but with all these reveals recently I can't help but wondering what we're going to be left with to see when the Lego Con eventually happens...?

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By in Austria,

For 200 EUR you can get a real vintage one.

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By in Poland,

Wes is a treasure! Hope he will make new theme soon!

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By in United Kingdom,

@morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"

No, they buy Lego!

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By in United Kingdom,

This will be a fine edition to my collection :D

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By in Sweden,

Beautiful!

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By in Belgium,

I'm intrigued about several of the building techniques, especially the hammers, but it's not something for me.

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By in United States,

Ooof. My daughter just bought an actual antique 1910s Underwood for this much money. Which is probably cooler than a non-working Lego replica, but she'd probably love both.

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By in Singapore,

One of the rare cases where the color inconsistency of sand green is actually going to lend itself to the authenticity of the model.

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By in Canada,

Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this...

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By in United States,

Kinda pricey IMO, but looks really cool! I’m interested to see the functionality of it, and love the color choice!

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By in United Kingdom,

This is absolutely mesmerizing!

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By in Philippines,

I wasn't anticipating this set that much but this set looks lovely! The sand green color choice is a good choice too in my opinion.

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By in Sweden,

Great color! This looks absolutely fantastic! This is a definite buy (but not on release date; I won't be home around that time :)
I don't really care whether it works or not tbh

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By in United States,

@morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"

I'm 43 and I had a typewriter in elementary school. I remember writing a report on Leif Erikson on it in third grade. All the other kids wrote theirs by hand.

Technology does not advance linearly. Innovation accelerated so fast with the advent of personal computing that oldish tech seems ancient, but it's really not.

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By in United Kingdom,

The big question is: stickers or prints? I can't quite tell from the photos.

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By in United States,

@morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"

Besides, typewriters have a cult following. I’m on the young side and I’ve had one for a couple years now.

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By in United Kingdom,

Wow, LEGO being kind to us in the U.K. on the price conversion for once.

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By in United Kingdom,

@DoonsterBuildsLego said:
"The big question is: stickers or prints? I can't quite tell from the photos."

The keys are printed, although I believe a couple of stickers are included.

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By in United Kingdom,

@morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!"

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By in Singapore,

@Snaz said:
"Looks accurate to the source material (It looks like a typewriter)

I won't buy it. I'm personally not a big fan of typewriters, and it's $200. It's a shame that Ideas sets are almost always over $100 recently..."

Blame the people who are always clamoring for large sets and getting upset when LEGO tries to downsize them to make them more accessible and affordable. The Ideas range is entirely 18+ products now, and it's not difficult to see why.

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By in United Kingdom,

@FreewheelBricks said:
"Wow, LEGO being kind to us in the U.K. on the price conversion for once."

See updated price...

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By in United States,

Beautiful model. I probably won’t get this but its impressive.

Price feels a little high for a nonlicensed Ideas set. Blacksmith has roughly same piece count at 75% of the price.

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By in Sweden,

I wonder if you could mod it into a computer keyboard somehow, with some sensor and a raspberry pi or similar

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By in Australia,

Looks amazing. Not for me though.

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By in Netherlands,

Looks great! And now we can rebuild the 911 in sand green.

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By in United States,

This isn't necessarily a set I want to get in order to display, but I kind of want to get it for the experience of building the working mechanisms integrated into it.

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By in United States,

Reminds me of the one my father still has, thought I think his is closer to sand blue. I think he'd enjoy this.

I wonder how smooth and reliable the mechanisms are.

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By in Norway,

@lentrott said:
" @morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"

No, they buy Lego!

"


No, they buy LEGO!

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By in United States,

Originally I had no interest in this set, and now... well I'm blown away by the thing! It's simply beautiful, and would make an excellent display piece in my office. What's another 200.00 to add to a Want List that's already my annual income? Then I'd just need a model of similar design quality of a vintage rotary phone, something like: http://www.oldphoneshop.com/products/vintage-rotary-phone-1a-highboy-monophone-automatic-electric.html

I think this will do exactly what TLG aimed for w/this project, which is to entice new AFOL's.

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By in Germany,

@CapnRex101 said:
" @DoonsterBuildsLego said:
"The big question is: stickers or prints? I can't quite tell from the photos."

The keys are printed, although I believe a couple of stickers are included."


According to the German website zusammengebaut.com, the keys are all printed and there are 2 stickers included. One on the front (System) and one on the back.

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By in Australia,

Can I play Call of Duty on it?

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By in Norway,

@DoonsterBuildsLego said:
"The big question is: stickers or prints? I can't quite tell from the photos."

If you zoom the first picture you’ll see that the word ‘SYSTEM’ is a sticker, what a bummer!! The letters seems like prints tho, but I’m not 100% sure..

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By in United Kingdom,

This looks amazing!

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By in Australia,

I'm REALLY impressed by this model, but TOTALLY unimpressed by the quality of the pieces.

I can't begin to understand how TLG are ANYTHING BUT TOTALLY EMBARRASSED by such massive colour inconsistencies in the Sand Green pieces...

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By in Japan,

@illennium said:
" @morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"

I'm 43 and I had a typewriter in elementary school. I remember writing a report on Leif Erikson on it in third grade. All the other kids wrote theirs by hand.

Technology does not advance linearly. Innovation accelerated so fast with the advent of personal computing that oldish tech seems ancient, but it's really not."


.. and I'm 38 and used my mother's typewriter when I was at school. I actually started to learn to touch type on it, although we got a PC before I mastered it - much less force required!

Very happy that this isn't oversized and overpriced to accommodate app functions as happened with the grand piano. Ideas is definitely my favourite line at the moment, I'll be picking this up sooner or later!

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By in Ireland,

@CapnRex101 said:
" @DoonsterBuildsLego said:
"The big question is: stickers or prints? I can't quite tell from the photos."

The keys are printed, although I believe a couple of stickers are included."


Thank God for that. Just watched the designer video, looks amazing. But if the keys were stickers, I would not like to be the one having to make sure they’re all centred perfectly.

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By in United States,

Meh

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By in United States,

This looks considerably better than I imagined and I don’t think I had particularly low hopes. It was a pass for me and has moved to a maybe.

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By in Canada,

@Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!

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By in Italy,

wow it's really cool! Day-one purchase for me!

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By in United States,

cool idea but no thanks and I'm old enough to have taekn a typing class on a type writer in school

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By in Netherlands,

Very cool. Nice rocket engine exhaust on the right. For extra fast typing.

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By in United States,

Oooh, looks lovely! Can’t wait to get it. Memories of typing class coming through....

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By in Canada,

@LegoSonicBoy said:
" @Snaz said:
"Looks accurate to the source material (It looks like a typewriter)

I won't buy it. I'm personally not a big fan of typewriters, and it's $200. It's a shame that Ideas sets are almost always over $100 recently..."

Blame the people who are always clamoring for large sets and getting upset when LEGO tries to downsize them to make them more accessible and affordable. The Ideas range is entirely 18+ products now, and it's not difficult to see why."


If you want cheap sets, then go look at 90% of the remaining themes.

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By in United Kingdom,

On the one hand this looks incredible to build and display, on the other hand I could buy a real type writer for half the price... I'm in a dilemma with this one!

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By in United States,

MEH

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By in Australia,

@Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream.

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By in Netherlands,

This looks very nice, a bit like the Grand Piano but IMHO more elegant and much more mechanically interesting.

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By in Netherlands,

30 new prints ? (well technically 29, there are 2x SHIFT KEY)

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By in Netherlands,

@Island_Lego said:
" @LegoSonicBoy said:
" @Snaz said:
"Looks accurate to the source material (It looks like a typewriter)

I won't buy it. I'm personally not a big fan of typewriters, and it's $200. It's a shame that Ideas sets are almost always over $100 recently..."

Blame the people who are always clamoring for large sets and getting upset when LEGO tries to downsize them to make them more accessible and affordable. The Ideas range is entirely 18+ products now, and it's not difficult to see why."


If you want cheap sets, then go look at 90% of the remaining themes. "


Yeah man, Lego is so cheap XD

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By in United States,

@Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


This may be the most intellectual debate I’ve seen on brickset in a while.

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By in United Kingdom,

This looks absolutely superb! Very pleased that the keys are prints... they would have been as painful to line up as the Space Shuttle stickers otherwise!

And it looks like anyone wanting a sand green Porsche can now get the rear wings!

It would have been a day 1 purchase at the £139.99 originally quoted, but at the corrected £179.99 I may wait for the inevitable Amazon price cut (as per the Grand Piano).

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By in United States,

This is the problem I have with it. Look at a lot of the Technic sets these days. Not counting the Jeep Wrangler (what, $40,000 these days); most of them are replicating large several-hundred-thousand dollar cars and heavy machinery. Even though LEGO these days is commonly doing north of $150 sets, they still do sub-$50 versions of certain vehicles. Still, only a tiny fraction of what the "real thing" costs.

But, one can easily find a typewriter. Since most people under the age of 30-40 probably don't even know what they are, I've seen them at flea markets and such under $20. Only through antiques dealers and those who know what they're selling. I'm 24, and used an electric Smith-Corona in middle school as it allowed me to get more done without the distractions on my HP desktop I had back then. Problem was that it was a leftover the small Christian school I attended had just given me as surplus "they didn't need it anymore; hadn't been used in years" when I asked (this was 2006-7), and it was worn out. My great-Granddad had one, which is currently just decoration around the house. It weighs 30 pounds. My grandmother also had a Remington, but it was poorly stored, and had ruined (got thrown out years ago). I'm wanting a portable mechanical model, and there are many at a price FAR less than this $200 set.

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By in United States,

Even though the set doesn’t appeal to me personally, it’s quite nicely designed! That being said, I am curious about the target market. People who love typewriters likely already have one, so a display piece that just imitates the real thing for the same amount of money is going to be a strange sell. But hey, 10,000 people seemed to want it, so what do I know?

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By in Estonia,

Epic. Just epic.
Now who will be the first to incorporate the "BACK SPACE" tile into a nice Classic Space MOC?

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By in United States,

@Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


But LEGO is a company that can make both ice cream (Castle) and pineapples (niche 18+ sets). Ice cream outsells pineapple, and more stores are willing to carry more ice cream and will give it lots of shelf space. Whereas, pineapple will be sold by only a few stores and only recieve minimal shelf space.

LEGO is failing to recognize this and appears to be devoting much of their R&D to cranking out more pineapple, when there's a large underserved segment asking for ice cream.

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By in United States,

@bamaker said:
" @Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


But LEGO is a company that can make both ice cream (Castle) and pineapples (niche 18+ sets). Ice cream outsells pineapple, and more stores are willing to carry more ice cream and will give it lots of shelf space. Whereas, pineapple will be sold by only a few stores and only recieve minimal shelf space.

LEGO is failing to recognize this and appears to be devoting much of their R&D to cranking out more pineapple, when there's a large underserved segment asking for ice cream."


Comment assumes without evidence that ice cream would outsell pineapple.

Lego undoubtedly has a segment of the company that engages in marketing and research, and investigates what product lines would be likely to be profitable. Maybe they've found that Castle isn't as viable now as it was in the 1980s and they aren't ready to conclude that demand would outweigh production costs. This *is* a company with a bottom line to meet, after all.

Beware of the mind fallacy: I think X, therefore everyone thinks X, therefore, society should cater to my desire for X.

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By in United States,

@Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


Comparing CITY to Castle is nearly the same analogy. Castle is very niche compared to generic City/Town sets. So this triggered person is being very ironic or something else.

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By in United States,

@bamaker said:
"LEGO is failing to recognize this and appears to be devoting much of their R&D to cranking out more pineapple, when there's a large underserved segment asking for ice cream."

You're literally getting a Creator castle this year. Got a legit pirate ship last year. Sales figures of each of those will likely dictate the subject matter going forward. You're not underserved.

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By in United States,

I want to add: negativity is a morale suck. It's a miracle of human civilization that many of us are now at a point where we can complain about "I want a specific Lego line" instead of "I want more food" or "I want to live past the age of 30." Regardless, negativity has a tendency to be infectious, so one person's vocalized unhappiness often hits everyone else very badly, *whether you like it or not.* If you're on a long car trip and one person starts screaming "I'M BORED," that's going to ruin things for everyone else.

It's a free forum: you can write what you want until the mods kill a thread. Just be cognizant: when people are positively reacting to a new product, and that one guy comes in to say "I DON'T LIKE LEGO TIDDLYWONKS; I WANT MORE FABULAND," it really, really, really kills the mood for everyone else. This is particularly true when 1) eBay exists and you can go find old Fabuland, or 2) Lego is by nature a modular product; you're entirely free to build your own Fabuland until a new product line comes along.

Also, 3) you can constructively write to Lego's feedback team and let them know you want more Fabuland. Maybe you can generate enough interest that it'll happen.

Or, hey, maybe you can submit a 10,000 vote Fabuland idea to the Ideas thing, which is specifically grounded in marketing interest.

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By in Germany,

@morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"
What an ignorant comment all around.

Just because you are too young to have had a typewriter doesn't mean that people who did must be very old.

I am 44 and had a manual typewriter during all of my childhood and youth, and when I started working in '97 the bank I worked for had manual as well as electric typewriters galore. My father finally got rid of his (electric) typewriter around 2010.

Plus, it's LEGO, not Legos.
That's just as annoying as people who talk about Star Trek and mention "the Borgs"...

For me, this set is a must have. Not day one of course, as I'll wait for the inevitable eventual discount, but a definitive must have. And I know of several people who think the same.

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By in United States,

@cody6268 said:
"This is the problem I have with it. Look at a lot of the Technic sets these days. Not counting the Jeep Wrangler (what, $40,000 these days); most of them are replicating large several-hundred-thousand dollar cars and heavy machinery. Even though LEGO these days is commonly doing north of $150 sets, they still do sub-$50 versions of certain vehicles. Still, only a tiny fraction of what the "real thing" costs.

But, one can easily find a typewriter. Since most people under the age of 30-40 probably don't even know what they are, I've seen them at flea markets and such under $20. Only through antiques dealers and those who know what they're selling. I'm 24, and used an electric Smith-Corona in middle school as it allowed me to get more done without the distractions on my HP desktop I had back then. Problem was that it was a leftover the small Christian school I attended had just given me as surplus "they didn't need it anymore; hadn't been used in years" when I asked (this was 2006-7), and it was worn out. My great-Granddad had one, which is currently just decoration around the house. It weighs 30 pounds. My grandmother also had a Remington, but it was poorly stored, and had ruined (got thrown out years ago). I'm wanting a portable mechanical model, and there are many at a price FAR less than this $200 set. "


Honest question because it's very possible that I'm in the minority here and that's okay -- different views are great -- but I am just curious. Do people buy LEGO sets (in part) because they can't have the real thing? I am curious if that is a factor for people. I have seen this sentiment a number of times -- Jang has made this point about the price of the LEGO NES as well, and has recently started comparing the value of LEGO sets to, e.g., die-cast models of the same cars and objects.

I buy LEGO sets because I collect LEGO and like to build LEGO. Obviously I pick and choose which models to buy based on what looks cool to me. but it's never occurred to me to think whether I could buy the real thing instead. If anything, as with the NES, I have both the original and the LEGO set side by side, because they're both cool in their own completely different ways and it's cool that they both exist. I buy the LEGO botanical sets even though I have my own garden with plenty of flowers and several acres of woods with many different kinds of trees and plants.

I find the idea of choosing between the real thing and a LEGO version fascinating because it's so foreign to me to compare them. Is this something that a lot of people do when considering which sets to buy? I'm not judging it at all, I just am curious to understand it.

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By in United Kingdom,

I was really impressed with the design in the video, right up until I realised that the ink ribbon is fake and that it doesn't actually function as a real Typewriter! Given the time and resources TLG have, SURELY they could have came up with a way to have it actually work? The original Technic Control Centre back-in-the-day, allowed you to create a working Plotter with a supplied pen. This set is like building a guitar without strings, it's a great "looking" piece, but it's only a facade.

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By in Netherlands,

This looks like a much more successful product than the Ideas piano. It still doesn't do what the real thing does, but the mechanism inside seems to be quite impressive.

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By in United States,

It’s beautiful! I’m not sure yet, but I might get this. It’s a gorgeous model, and between all the printed letter key tiles and all the sand green elements it’ll be a fantastic parts pack.

@morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

Perhaps, but I’d bet this will sell more sets to people who don’t normally already buy LEGO than a new set or line in an existing classic LEGO theme like Castle would. That’s probably a significant consideration.

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By in United States,

@GrosPanda1979 said:
"I was really impressed with the design in the video, right up until I realised that the ink ribbon is fake and that it doesn't actually function as a real Typewriter! Given the time and resources TLG have, SURELY they could have came up with a way to have it actually work? The original Technic Control Centre back-in-the-day, allowed you to create a working Plotter with a supplied pen. This set is like building a guitar without strings, it's a great "looking" piece, but it's only a facade. "

You really thought it was going to function? I mean...

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By in United States,

@morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"

I'm 50, used a manual typewriter all through middle school and high school. Typing class was mandatory, even! Aside from that, though, as someone who is a writer by trade and also loves vintage stuff, this is a Day One for me.

So the target market, I think, includes anyone old enough to have used a typewriter (40+, maybe), anyone who is a writer, for fun or money (small numbers, admittedly) and anyone who likes vintage stuff (HUGE numbers).

I think it'll sell just fine.

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By in United States,

Are the letters hand signed by Thomas or will it just be a facsimile or preprinted letter?

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By in United States,

For all the folks wondering who’d pay more for a LEGO recreation of a real-world object than they would for the actual thing, what about 7594 Army Men on Patrol? I bought six copies of that, and that set cost maybe thirty times what one would pay for four actual traditional little green army men, even with a Jeep. :p :D

Granted, in this case the LEGO version not only replicates the full functionality of the original but actually adds some since the soldiers can be posed and re-posed and all, but still. :p ;)

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By in United States,

An NES first and now a typewriter. What is next? A first gen iPod model as a working music box with a U2 track.

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By in United Kingdom,

@Cooliocdawg said:
" @Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


This may be the most intellectual debate I’ve seen on brickset in a while. "


To be honest the main outcome in my mind is that I really wanna try a pineapple ice cream as a result of all this!

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By in United States,

Tom Hanks would love this

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By in Canada,

@Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


I'm not saying they shouldn't sell the type writer (neither was the OP), just stating that if this is profitable for them castle would likely be too.

As for your false equivalency, Lego makes Lego. Pineapple farmers can't just switch to making ice cream on a whim, but Lego can make whatever they want out of Lego. It's awesome that they make a wide variety of things to appeal to all sorts of interests, but there's also nothing wrong with someone saying something like "if they're producing this niche thing, I'm sure they could also release this less niche thing that I really want".

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By in Singapore,

Lego, Please make cheaper ideas sets like you did previously not like $100+++ sets I really don’t like this trend

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By in United States,

@bamaker said:
" @Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


But LEGO is a company that can make both ice cream (Castle) and pineapples (niche 18+ sets). Ice cream outsells pineapple, and more stores are willing to carry more ice cream and will give it lots of shelf space. Whereas, pineapple will be sold by only a few stores and only recieve minimal shelf space.

LEGO is failing to recognize this and appears to be devoting much of their R&D to cranking out more pineapple, when there's a large underserved segment asking for ice cream."


Do you have any concrete proof for the castle demand? LEGO, while branching out with its target audiences, is still a toy company primarily aimed at children. Odds are the R&D department gave the okay on themes like SuperMario instead of castle because kids liked the former over the latter.

I like seeing LEGO experiment with old themes via creator. Perhaps if the castle set sells well enough, it could be the evidence the company needs to reconsider castle as a theme

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By in Canada,

@MeganL said:
"Oooh, looks lovely! Can’t wait to get it. Memories of typing class coming through...."

Same here...typing class would be way back in 1988 for me.

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By in Germany,

@bamaker said:
"LEGO is failing to recognize this and appears to be devoting much of their R&D to cranking out more pineapple, when there's a large underserved segment asking for ice cream."
I love pineapple, and I love ice cream (who doesn't?). Even better, I love pineapple ice cream. :-)

@illennium : I can only speak for myself of course, but I never buy a LEGO (or competing brand) set in lieu of an original or other type of facsimile.
If I wanted a functional typewriter I could simply have one of my father's old ones. I will buy this for the fun of building it plus the display value.

Same with something like the Creator Expert line of vehicles. The Ferrari F40 (the real one) for example is one of my favorite cars of all time, and therefore I already have several scale models of it, all of which are more detailed and realistic than the LEGO version. Still, when 10248 arrived, I had to have it because it combined one of my favorite cars with my favorite hobby. And I have not regretted buying it, just as I won't regret buying this set even though it is just a display piece and more expensive than a real typewriter.

Needless to say, I also have the Speed Champions F40 ;-)

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By in Germany,

@Jotahesse1 said:
"An NES first and now a typewriter. What is next? A first gen iPod model as a working music box with a U2 track. "

First 5000 preorders will get either a limited Bono or Steve Jobs Bust model.

Anyway, sometimes, I ask myself how many Ideas supporters actually buy the final product they voted for...
anyone any numbers?

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By in United States,

@Ayliffe said:
" @Cooliocdawg said:
" @Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


This may be the most intellectual debate I’ve seen on brickset in a while. "


To be honest the main outcome in my mind is that I really wanna try a pineapple ice cream as a result of all this!"


Go for pineapple sherbet instead. Now that stuff is GOOD.

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By in United States,

Oh, this looks fantastic. My late Grandpapa would have loved this as a former newspaper publisher. I'm glad they were able to work in more functionality than the Ideas proposal itself had, and that all the keys are printed (I'm normally okay with stickers but that many round stickers on round parts would've been a pain to line up).

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By in United States,

Wow, what a beautiful Lego set! I'm impressed by how much functionality they were able to fit it a relatively compact size too. It's out of my price range but I certainly admire it.

To add to the typewriter conversation, when I was 16 I worked for an insurance company and used a typewriter to type automobile insurance ID cards! I'm only 37 now so that wasn't that long ago. :)

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By in Australia,

I wasn't aware that 3 years of inflation equalled out to an extra $100, thanks for shafting Australia yet again Lego.

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By in United Kingdom,

I appreciate the design but it’s not something I’d buy - interested by the ribbon, the 3x3 round tiles (are these new? and hoping there’s enough friction on the wheels to get that satisfying noise when you feed paper through (and can you feed a sheet of standard letter paper or A4 through)

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By in Puerto Rico,

I am still salty that they didn't chose Bionicle but this is a beautiful set indeed.

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By in Canada,

@jkb said:
" @Jotahesse1 said:
"An NES first and now a typewriter. What is next? A first gen iPod model as a working music box with a U2 track. "

First 5000 preorders will get either a limited Bono or Steve Jobs Bust model.

Anyway, sometimes, I ask myself how many Ideas supporters actually buy the final product they voted for...
anyone any numbers?"


I would also be very interested in knowing this - maybe @Huw can organise some sorts of survey of 1) how many sets do you vote for in a given year and 2) how many of these sets do you actually buy.

Personally, I stopped voting for sets because: of the fantastic selection of sets making it past the 10k mark, very few (read next to none) of the one I voted for made the cut to a produced model so I stopped caring. So now, I cannot complain and must be content with what comes out - and that's just fine like that, I vote with my money.

That said, before I refrained from voting, I voted for the Saturn V, the Pirates of Barracuda Bay and the ISS space station (special vote); I own those three sets.

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By in Portugal,

@Snaz said:
"Looks accurate to the source material (It looks like a typewriter)

I won't buy it. I'm personally not a big fan of typewriters, and it's $200. It's a shame that Ideas sets are almost always over $100 recently..."


21318 and 21322 worth every penny...

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By in United States,

Regarding the non-sequitur assertion that Castle sets would sell better, there a bunch of castles in other themes this year (Creator, Disney, Harry Potter) that, while not equivalent to a standalone castle theme in the eyes of AFOLs, very possibly might appeal more to the same kids who would otherwise buy one. I wouldn't mind a Castle theme (or heck, even getting Elves back), but if an original castle theme were really as sure a seller as fans make it out to be I doubt Lego would hesitate to release one. But the alternative, that the market for castles is currently saturated by other themes and that other kinds of themes with more crossover appeal have better sales potential, is a very real possibility that shouldn't be discounted, even if it stings for fans of classic castle themes.

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By in Portugal,

I'm going to write LEGO a letter just to inform them that I love this set...

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By in Australia,

Nearly 100 comments and next to no love for those printed letters?? @Rickerdo is onto something, if those tiles aren’t on BAP the part out value is going to be insane on this.

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By in Canada,

I'm wondering why the 8 studs visible on the front have not been tiled? No 1x2 tile in sand green?

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By in United States,

I'm going to throw out a wacky side comment in the hopes that somebody at Lego notices:

I'd love to see a Collectible Minifigure Wave that includes a bunch of classic minifigure reissues. (Remember when we got the original 1978 Police Officer reissued?) So maybe a classic Knight or two, a reissued Captain Redbeard, an original Town fireman, an original print Johnny Thunder....

Anyway, throw in some 80s Castle guys to make our Castle fan here happy.

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By in Puerto Rico,

Are the two large, curved, sand green pieces on the front new?

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By in United Kingdom,

@Ladondorf said:
"Are the two large, curved, sand green pieces on the front new?"

I'm pretty sure they're a recolour of the rear panels on the 10295 Creator Expert Porsche as noted by some earlier comments.

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By in Luxembourg,

@Leetr_Frkno said:
"I wasn't aware that 3 years of inflation equalled out to an extra $100, thanks for shafting Australia yet again Lego."

Your currency's last high point was already in 2012, and has been on a downward trend ever since. At current FX, AUD 330 is approx EUR 210, pretty close to the European RRP.

I know this is a sore point with Australians on this site (and similar sentiment is regularly expressed by Canadians), but the simple fact is: your currency is not worth anymore what it once was.

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By in United Kingdom,

Super chuffed for Steve - looks great!

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By in Netherlands,

Actually my first post was wrong, it's 32 printed keys (I wrote 30 above), so 31 new prints (shift key x2) , oops.

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By in United States,

As the poll result suggests, really not sure who this set is targeting for. Can't really get the people who would spend $200 on a lego typewriter. Won't even get it for $50. Zero interest in something that most people nowadays have never use or even seen one (an actual one). Easy pass. What's next...lego rotary dial phone, cassette/CD/mp3 player, floppy disk?...

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By in United Kingdom,

I know not all typewriters had them, but numbers would have been nice.

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By in United States,

This is Next Level good. Wow!!!

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By in United States,

"Why get this when I could get a real one?"

Because this one is Lego. Case closed

If you want to get a real typewriter, you could before, and you can now. If you want to get a Lego typewriter, you could *not* before, and you can now. Same goes for the Ship in a Bottle, Marble Maze, Pop-up Book, Voltron, Jurassic Park, Minecraft, anything space-related, Speed Champions, virtually every Lego theme. Yes, you can get Star Wars action figures, why would anyone want Star Wars Lego? Because it's Lego!

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By in United States,

That green is awesome! I saw the original approved submission and thought "oh, they really need to make it in that late 50's green..." and then they did! This looks really nicely done. Not quite my thing, but always nice to see such great execution.

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By in Canada,

I guess it looks nice, but as I have nothing to do with it once it's build, I'll skip it.

This set made me think that for the poll maybe we can add "Yes, but for the parts" as an option ?

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By in Australia,

@stlux said:
" @Leetr_Frkno said:
"I wasn't aware that 3 years of inflation equalled out to an extra $100, thanks for shafting Australia yet again Lego."

Your currency's last high point was already in 2012, and has been on a downward trend ever since. At current FX, AUD 330 is approx EUR 210, pretty close to the European RRP.

I know this is a sore point with Australians on this site (and similar sentiment is regularly expressed by Canadians), but the simple fact is: your currency is not worth anymore what it once was."


I don't think you'll find the Canadians complaining too hard about this one. The fact remains that Australia, Europe AND the UK are paying 25% more for this set than our North American counterparts. To fully understand the average Aussie AFOLs' angst you need to go back further than 2012. At the turn of the century we were regularly paying half the North American price for the majority of sets.
While I also understand that the North American prices generally don't include sales tax, it should also be noted that its not uncommon for US based AFOLs to be purchasing sets at 50% or more discount.

The pricing of TLG products on an INTERNATIONAL level is a lot more complicated than using a simple exchange rate to explain it.

My personal issue is the fact that while I'm paying a considerable premium than I was 20 years ago, the quality of the product is magnitudes worse than what it once was. I don't believe this part of the equation is debatable.

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By in United States,

Back...space? By the time I was old enough to learn how to type, my dad had traded his typewriter in for a Trash-80, but I’m assuming this is to just reposition the carriage so you can use a white-out ribbon to “delete” a mistake?

@bamaker:
Except every time they put ice cream on the shelf, people complain that they don’t like the flavor, and buy potato chips instead, and then the retailers complain to them asking why they keep shipping ice cream when all anyone buys are chips. If Castle sold well enough to command a shelf at Walmart, it would have a shelf at Walmart. The last thing anyone wants is for condensing of the product line to continue unchecked to the point where all that’s left is plainvanilla ice cream and you can’t even buy a jar of sprinkles to hide the flavor.

@AustinPowers:
Seriously, dude, _IT’S_NOT_”LEGO”_!!!!!!! There is a page on there website that, for years, has tried, to no avail, to disabuse people of the false idea that “LEGO” is, or ever was, a noun. It’s not. It’s an adjective. It’s “LEGO bricks”. “LEGO parts”. The only thing more annoying than seeing people cry about “license fees” on sets that cost less than $0.10/pc is people saying, “My way of saying it wrong is more correct than your way of saying it wrong.” I don’t personally care how anyone says it, but if you’re going to tell people they’re saying it wrong, learn to say it right first.

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By in United States,

@ChromedCat said:
"Lego, Please make cheaper ideas sets like you did previously not like $100+++ sets I really don’t like this trend"
There does seem to be a steady trend to more expensive Ideas sets. The days of $25 Women of NASA (21312, 2017) or $35 Tron Legacy (21314, 2018) seem well behind us.

Perhaps that's just a reflection of the size of projects being submitted and the amount of work needed to get a set from qualifying to shelves being constant no matter the size?

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
"Back...space? By the time I was old enough to learn how to type, my dad had traded his typewriter in for a Trash-80, but I’m assuming this is to just reposition the carriage so you can use a white-out ribbon to “delete” a mistake?

@bamaker:
Except every time they put ice cream on the shelf, people complain that they don’t like the flavor, and buy potato chips instead, and then the retailers complain to them asking why they keep shipping ice cream when all anyone buys are chips. If Castle sold well enough to command a shelf at Walmart, it would have a shelf at Walmart. The last thing anyone wants is for condensing of the product line to continue unchecked to the point where all that’s left is plainvanilla ice cream and you can’t even buy a jar of sprinkles to hide the flavor.

@AustinPowers:
Seriously, dude, _IT’S_NOT_”LEGO”_!!!!!!! There is a page on there website that, for years, has tried, to no avail, to disabuse people of the false idea that “LEGO” is, or ever was, a noun. It’s not. It’s an adjective. It’s “LEGO bricks”. “LEGO parts”. The only thing more annoying than seeing people cry about “license fees” on sets that cost less than $0.10/pc is people saying, “My way of saying it wrong is more correct than your way of saying it wrong.” I don’t personally care how anyone says it, but if you’re going to tell people they’re saying it wrong, learn to say it right first."


As a company name, "Lego" is a proper noun.

Of course, your annoyance is with "Lego" as a descriptor of the product rather than the adjective describing the parts of the product. Language is, like it or not, dynamic--it trends how people use the words. The famous example is the "thermos," which is the name of the Thermos company, but very quickly became the common descriptor of the product itself.

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By in United States,

One thing that doesn't get observed much is that Lego is slowly becoming a collectibles company that happens to still make toys.

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By in United States,

Being old enough to have learned how to type on a typewriter, I appreciate the model for the mechanics that mimic the real thing. I just don't see much of a market for the set. Like most real typewriters, it will likely just collect dust.

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By in United States,

@rmpe99bs said:
"One thing that doesn't get observed much is that Lego is slowly becoming a collectibles company that happens to still make toys."

*Lego shifts from 1% of products focused mainly on adults to 2% of products focused mainly on adults*

WHERE are the TOYS? Will SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?????

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
"Back...space? By the time I was old enough to learn how to type, my dad had traded his typewriter in for a Trash-80, but I’m assuming this is to just reposition the carriage so you can use a white-out ribbon to “delete” a mistake?"

On vintage typewriters the backspace key is used to help aid in aligning the paper position for paragraphs / indentation or if you over-space when formatting, e.g. more than one space after a period like some writers like to do for sentence legibility.

And yeah, to correct typing mistakes it's used to properly align the carriage for overtyping the correct character using a whiteout strip (most likely something you just inserted manually between the paper and ribbon while typing the correction). You backspace to line up the wrong character and need to first retype the wrong character using the whiteout strip, backspace again and then retype the intended character. And good luck getting that alignment correct if you didn't catch your mistake early enough on the same line before introducing a carriage return.

--------------------

Speaking of typing mistakes, TLG could have gone a step further and included a brick-built bottle of liquid paper to complete the authentic vintage typewriter experience.

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By in United Kingdom,

I thought the piano was a thing beauty, this beats it hands down!

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By in United States,

@legoapprentice said:
"Beautiful model. I probably won’t get this but its impressive.

Price feels a little high for a nonlicensed Ideas set. Blacksmith has roughly same piece count at 75% of the price."


Agreed, but i kind of feel like it has more to do with the blacksmith being inexpensive for what it is rather than anything else being overpriced

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By in United States,

Gorgeous model. The moving carriage is lovely.

But it's impossible to remap to Dvorak, so no interest from me. Argh! Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. So sad—especially since it's Lego and it doesn't actually print anything! At least I still have my real typewriter to pour out my grief upon. They truly are magical machines.

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By in United States,

WOW! I can't even describe what I was expecting, but it wasn't this! It looks like a really nice set - to such a degree that my interest went from 'pffffft easy pass' to 'hmm, there's a chance.'

...and yes, the printed tiles are very nice. STICKERS would have sunk my interest back down to 'pfffft.' =0)

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By in United States,

@Torbo said:
" @legoapprentice said:
"Beautiful model. I probably won’t get this but its impressive.

Price feels a little high for a nonlicensed Ideas set. Blacksmith has roughly same piece count at 75% of the price."


Agreed, but i kind of feel like it has more to do with the blacksmith being inexpensive for what it is rather than anything else being overpriced"


An important distinction! 10 cents per piece is the typical price. Something else being a great price does not mean that this is no longer a good price.

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By in United States,

@cody6268 said:
"This is the problem I have with it. Look at a lot of the Technic sets these days. Not counting the Jeep Wrangler (what, $40,000 these days); most of them are replicating large several-hundred-thousand dollar cars and heavy machinery. Even though LEGO these days is commonly doing north of $150 sets, they still do sub-$50 versions of certain vehicles. Still, only a tiny fraction of what the "real thing" costs.

But, one can easily find a typewriter. Since most people under the age of 30-40 probably don't even know what they are, I've seen them at flea markets and such under $20. Only through antiques dealers and those who know what they're selling. I'm 24, and used an electric Smith-Corona in middle school as it allowed me to get more done without the distractions on my HP desktop I had back then. Problem was that it was a leftover the small Christian school I attended had just given me as surplus "they didn't need it anymore; hadn't been used in years" when I asked (this was 2006-7), and it was worn out. My great-Granddad had one, which is currently just decoration around the house. It weighs 30 pounds. My grandmother also had a Remington, but it was poorly stored, and had ruined (got thrown out years ago). I'm wanting a portable mechanical model, and there are many at a price FAR less than this $200 set. "


I'm sorry, I fell asleep....

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By in Czechia,

Words by Conor McGregor:

“What the fock is that thing?”

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By in New Zealand,

@lentrott said:
" @morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"

No, they buy Lego!

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No, they actually buy LEGO. PS, don’t typewriters have number keys?

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By in United States,

They should make a LEGO Ideas VCR.

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By in United States,

I like the idea, the set looks great, but I just don't have room anymore for these larger sets. Just like I'd also love to buy 76139, 76161, and 10274. Unfortunately, I'm passing on this one also.

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By in United States,

@ResIpsaLoquitur:
“LEGO” is not the name of the company. It’s “The LEGO Company”. It’s part of “The LEGO Group”. Their retail branch is “LEGO Brand Retail”. Still not a noun.

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By in United States,

@AustinPowers said:
" @morvit said:
"Wonder who the target market is for this. Maybe 80+? Do they buy Legos?"
What an ignorant comment all around.

Just because you are too young to have had a typewriter doesn't mean that people who did must be very old.

I am 44 and had a manual typewriter during all of my childhood and youth, and when I started working in '97 the bank I worked for had manual as well as electric typewriters galore. My father finally got rid of his (electric) typewriter around 2010.

Plus, it's LEGO, not Legos.
That's just as annoying as people who talk about Star Trek and mention "the Borgs"...

For me, this set is a must have. Not day one of course, as I'll wait for the inevitable eventual discount, but a definitive must have. And I know of several people who think the same. "


The local bank here still uses typewriters for certain jobs.

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By in United Kingdom,

I wish it transformed into a robot.

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
"Seriously, dude, _IT’S_NOT_”LEGO”_!!!!!!! There is a page on there website that, for years, has tried, to no avail, to disabuse people of the false idea that “LEGO” is, or ever was, a noun. It’s not. It’s an adjective. It’s “LEGO bricks”. “LEGO parts”."

Lego is most definitely a noun, not an adjective. Nouns can function in the grammatical role of adjectives when used as attributive nouns, as seen in your examples above. But that does not make them adjectives: consider the incoherent phrase a "a Lego lovely set," which would be perfectly valid if "Lego" actually were an adjective, instead of being governed by the syntax rules of attributive nouns.

Since it is a noun, your objection boils down to a purely subjective dislike of shortening "Lego bricks" down to "Lego." The objection is unfounded. To say "I want to play with Lego" could imply bricks, sets, even—*shudder*—Galidor. Just not MegaBloks.

The pluralization "Legos" is of course an abomination because, as any owner of a Lego collection can tell you, a big pile of Lego pieces is effectively impossible to count. (Heck, I can't even be sure my sets are all counted!) That makes it an uncountable noun, so the correct plural form is "Lego."

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
" @ResIpsaLoquitur:
“LEGO” is not the name of the company. It’s “The LEGO Company”. It’s part of “The LEGO Group”. Their retail branch is “LEGO Brand Retail”. Still not a noun."


Fine. "Lego" is a trademark of the Lego Group, so in that context, it's a noun.

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By in United States,

"No, but I like it" is my answer for the poll; this is certainly an amazing set and I think its pretty good looking. But with how fast Lego's release schedule for D2C's has been these last few years I have long consigned myself to only getting a small handful of everything put to market. Really the only big D2C on my wishlist so far this year is the Space Shuttle and I have yet to get it, my wallet can only afford so much (let alone my storage space can only fit so many sets and every set in is another shelf I need to set up or another set I need to place into storage to clear shelf space).

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By in United States,

Again, what you're arguing here is that "Lego" should not be used in the context conventional languages. My reply is that human languages are organic and, if people do it enough, words change meaning and scope over enough time. If enough people use "Lego" as a noun, it will become one.

Dictionaries do not control language. Dictionaries *reflect* language.

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By in United States,

@AllenSmith said:
"The pluralization "Legos" is of course an abomination..."

I'm 42 and have always called them "Legos" and until LEGO pays me to market them or be a spokesperson I will continue to refer to them as such. Stop gatekeeping terminology. It's insufferable.

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By in United States,

@Sandinista said:
" @bamaker said:
" @Kynareth said:
" @Bmuralles said:
" @Ayliffe said:
" @morvit said:
"Surely if Lego can release this, they can release a new Castle line. No way a new Castle line sells worse than this..."

"The thing I like SURELY must sell better than the thing I don't like! There is no bias in this line of thought whatsoever!""


Oof, your strawman's strawbrother's strawdog is still reeling from your slick burn. But all the real humans are confused about how your mind functions.

Type writers are really niche, so the market for this is theoretically pretty small. This set looks awesome, but I certainly will not buy it anywhere near retail price.
Castles are cool, lots of people like them. It would be astounding if the market for castles was smaller than the market for this.
As for bias, everything is biased to some extent, so calling out bias is often worthless. It can make sense when someone is claiming to be objective, and when the issue is important. This is neither. I hope you have an educational day!"


Real human here. So you make an ad hominem attack on the poster who is deconstructing the straw man argument in the OP, fair enough, but it doesn’t make your argument convincing.

It’s false equivalency, yes, castles would sell more units, and that will be why most retailers stock the Creator castle over this, but it isn’t the same target market, it’s like arguing ice cream would sell more than pineapple so pineapple producers should make more ice cream."


But LEGO is a company that can make both ice cream (Castle) and pineapples (niche 18+ sets). Ice cream outsells pineapple, and more stores are willing to carry more ice cream and will give it lots of shelf space. Whereas, pineapple will be sold by only a few stores and only recieve minimal shelf space.

LEGO is failing to recognize this and appears to be devoting much of their R&D to cranking out more pineapple, when there's a large underserved segment asking for ice cream."


Do you have any concrete proof for the castle demand? LEGO, while branching out with its target audiences, is still a toy company primarily aimed at children. Odds are the R&D department gave the okay on themes like SuperMario instead of castle because kids liked the former over the latter.

I like seeing LEGO experiment with old themes via creator. Perhaps if the castle set sells well enough, it could be the evidence the company needs to reconsider castle as a theme "


This typewriter got 10,000 votes on Lego Ideas. Compare that to the dozens of Medieval-themed projects on Lego Ideas that have reached 10,000. Also, the most popular options in the poll for this set on this website are not "yes".

One thing's for sure, this typewriter is higher quality than the last Castle wave . . .

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By in United States,

@CDM said:
" @AllenSmith said:
"The pluralization "Legos" is of course an abomination..."

I'm 42 and have always called them "Legos" and until LEGO pays me to market them or be a spokesperson I will continue to refer to them as such. Stop gatekeeping terminology. It's insufferable."


My argument was entirely based on English grammar. It had nothing to do with—and actually completely contradicts—the contralingual word-policing fantasies of Lego's legal department. You are of course free to disagree on grammatical grounds, but beware that the whole point of making hyperbolic statements about the possibly-debatable subject of whether Lego is countable is to have fun arguing about grammar.

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By in United States,

@CDM said:
" I'm 42 and have always called them "Legos" and until LEGO pays me to market them or be a spokesperson I will continue to refer to them as such. Stop gatekeeping terminology. It's insufferable."

THANK YOU. There's a lot of "Well ACKCHYUALLY" going around these days. The Brand is clearly doing juuuuust fine no matter what terminology we use.

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By in Italy,

@Hamster_Productions said:
"On the one hand this looks incredible to build and display, on the other hand I could buy a real type writer for half the price... I'm in a dilemma with this one!"

I guess it's not a matter of choosing between a LEGO replica or the real thing. The magic in some of these Ideas sets is that it is a sculpture you're actually buying, a brick-built piece of art.

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By in Canada,

Besides what everybody else has mentioned regarding demand for this set vs. demand for a castle wave, I feel like it's relevant to point out that a full wave of sets takes a lot more resources to produce than a single stand-alone set, especially when it's entirely possible that LEGO intends to produce and distribute that stand-alone set in a more limited capacity due to its niche appeal.

Clearly, this set isn't standing in the way of stand-alone Castle releases, since there have already been at least two this year (the Ideas Medieval Blacksmith and Creator 3-in-1 Medieval Castle). But for LEGO to free up enough resources for a full wave of Castle sets, it'd have to take the place of SEVERAL other sets that those resources are currently going towards — whether that means downsizing multiple ongoing themes, turning down multiple pitches for stand-alone sets, or discontinuing a full theme of comparable size.

That's not to say that it'd be unrealistic to hope for a Castle theme in the future. But stand-alone releases like this, the Everyone is Awesome set, the Space Shuttle Discovery, etc don't somehow "prove" that LEGO could introduce a new Castle theme whenever they felt like it. Because rolling out a new theme requires not only recognizing the demand for it, but also making room for it within LEGO's overall product portfolio. And sometimes it's tricky to do that without sacrificing sets or themes that might be more effective at expanding LEGO's audience as a whole.

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By in United States,

@BrickToBasics said:
" @rmpe99bs said:
"One thing that doesn't get observed much is that Lego is slowly becoming a collectibles company that happens to still make toys."

*Lego shifts from 1% of products focused mainly on adults to 2% of products focused mainly on adults*

WHERE are the TOYS? Will SOMEONE please think of the CHILDREN?????"


And according to your own data, thats a 100% increase. Thank you. I would contend that licensed sets are treated as collectibles. Without doing a count, the percentage of non-licensed sets has been decreasing over time. Like most companies that survive after the founding generation, the original motivations are gone and what's left is a company that exists to make money that happens to make the product that led to success in the first place. I don't begrudge them that.

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By in United States,

@AllenSmith:
@ResIpsaLoquitur:

https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-play/

“Proper Use of the LEGO Trademark on a Web Site
If the LEGO trademark is used at all, it should always be used as an adjective, not as a noun. For example, say “MODELS BUILT OF LEGO BRICKS”. Never say “MODELS BUILT OF LEGOs”. Also, the trademark should appear in the same typeface as the surrounding text and should not be isolated or set apart from the surrounding text. In other words, the trademarks should not be emphasized or highlighted. Finally, the LEGO trademark should always appear with a ® symbol each time it is used.”

It’s about halfway down that page. This is the _only_ guidance they have on noun/adjective, LEGO/LEGOs, and so forth. Again, I don’t really care what people call them. They can say “Leg Godt bricks” or “FREGO” for all I care. My beef is with people incorrecting others’ use of the term. Call it Thumper’s Corollary: If you can’t say anything right, don’t say nuthin’ at all.

@ResIpsaLoquitur:
And companies must protect trademarks. If they don’t, those trademarks can be permanently revoked, like what happened to Aspirin and Xerox.

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By in Netherlands,

I’m amused by people comparing the price of this to a real typewriter. Has anyone told these people that LEGO is a construction system? (Fill in toy here by all means, I’m okay with that too). It’s value is measured along different axis, just as always is the case with any other set.

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By in Canada,

@ALEGOMan said:
"Why do these boring sets make it to shelves but not stuff like the goonies ship and red dwarf sets?"

I'm not going to comment on the relative levels of "boring" between the sets mentioned, but I suspect it's a combination of:

1) no licensing requirements for the typewriter;
2) The Goonies is a movie from 1985 which has had little media produced since the movie; and
3) Red Dwarf is well-known in the UK and not well known at all in most of the rest of the world.

I'm not trying to diss the quality of The Goonies or Red Dwarf, but they are pretty niche.

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By in United Kingdom,

Actually, thinking about it, I wish this transformed into a goat. A goat that opened its mouth so more goats came out of it.

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By in United States,

@Rickerdo said:
"What's the part out value? ;)"

0.096c per piece

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By in Canada,

I know that many typewriters (especially more vintage ones) exclude numbers, but I'm not sure I have ever seen a typewriter where the question mark is located left of the period.

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By in United States,

The great part is most of the kids out there won't even know what this "thing" is. I'm 41 and probably the last generation to see a typewriter and use one. :)

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
" @AllenSmith:
@ResIpsaLoquitur:

https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-play/

“Proper Use of the LEGO Trademark on a Web Site
If the LEGO trademark is used at all, it should always be used as an adjective, not as a noun. For example, say “MODELS BUILT OF LEGO BRICKS”. Never say “MODELS BUILT OF LEGOs”. Also, the trademark should appear in the same typeface as the surrounding text and should not be isolated or set apart from the surrounding text. In other words, the trademarks should not be emphasized or highlighted. Finally, the LEGO trademark should always appear with a ® symbol each time it is used.”

It’s about halfway down that page. This is the _only_ guidance they have on noun/adjective, LEGO/LEGOs, and so forth. Again, I don’t really care what people call them. They can say “Leg Godt bricks” or “FREGO” for all I care. My beef is with people incorrecting others’ use of the term. Call it Thumper’s Corollary: If you can’t say anything right, don’t say nuthin’ at all.

@ResIpsaLoquitur:
And companies must protect trademarks. If they don’t, those trademarks can be permanently revoked, like what happened to Aspirin and Xerox."


I'm a lawyer and I've dabbled in IP law, so I'm already aware of this. (See my comment on Thermos above.) Nonetheless, companies can nudge language, but they don't own it. There is, quite literally, no way to stop the average individual from using "Lego" as a noun if they want to do it. People can steer language, but people have a much harder time steering other people.

(Anyone here arguing for corporate word control should check whether they've ever used "Google" as a verb or referred to any soft drink as a "Coke"--yes, the latter is very common in the Southern United States.)

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By in United Kingdom,

Unless I've misread a lot more functionality than I was expecting from the original idea version, now with moving keys, hammers, ribbon and sideways paper roller. Although it should be noted that this is all an illustration and the hammers don't have any letters on them to actually print on the paper, plus you would need one hammer for each key which there is not enough space for.

@Legonk said:
"I wonder if you could mod it into a computer keyboard somehow, with some sensor and a raspberry pi or similar "

My thought was also that those keys could find a far more useful and practical life, but you would need a way to know which one was pressed possibly with a colour sensor on each row and the keys in that row each having one of 10 different colours underneath? The distance to the furthest keys may be a bit far and colours not so different in poor light, so likely you would need colour sensors on both sides, i.e. 6 in total to pick up 5 colours each, which may be a bit expensive compared to a $10 keyboard?

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By in Canada,

@magni_nominis_umbra said:
[[ @stlux said:
[[ @Leetr_Frkno said:
[[ ... the quality of the product is magnitudes worse than what it once was. I don't believe this part of the equation is debatable.]]

20 years ago was part of my "dark ages", but I gotta say that I'm constantly blown away by the sets that are being released these days. The build techniques, variety of subject matter and physical quality of the product always impress me. We're the sets from 20 years ago really better? Can you suggest some for me to check out? Thanks!

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
"https://www.lego.com/en-us/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-play/"

Lego's lawyers don't get to make the rules of English, nor do they even have the legal power to compel third parties to following their branding guidelines. The only legal action they can attempt is to prevent the genericization of the Lego trademark. But using "Lego" by itself to exclusively refer to Lego products carries no threat of trademark loss, any more than saying "there's a Toyota in my driveway" does when referring to a parked Camry.

Corporations have a long history of trying to dictate the "correct" usage of their brand in contravention of English language rules—demanding all caps, nonstandard capitalization, tangled wording—in an attempt to dupe editors into giving them free marketing. None of this is legitimate, much less correct, and may be freely ignored.

"Correct" is a function of language, and I think there is a very compelling linguistic argument that "Lego" should be pluralized as "Lego."

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By in United Kingdom,

Wow, I think these comments need Brickset bingo, surely there would be a full house (too expensive, why did they make this and not bring back my favourite theme from the past, Legos/Lego/LEGO...). Good going everyone!

It's prettier than I could have expected it to be and I would enjoy building it for the mechanisms but ultimately I don't have enough typewriter nostalgia to want to keep it and display it. Probably could buy, build and resell without making too much of a loss if I held onto it I suppose.

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By in United Kingdom,

This is the only high-end set that I would like to see come with a soundtrack...… as long as it was Leroy Anderson's "The Typewriter".
Got it stuck in my head now.

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By in Germany,

These are not the Legos I am looking for... ;)

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By in United States,

@rmpe99bs said:
" And according to your own data, thats a 100% increase. Thank you. I would contend that licensed sets are treated as collectibles. Without doing a count, the percentage of non-licensed sets has been decreasing over time. Like most companies that survive after the founding generation, the original motivations are gone and what's left is a company that exists to make money that happens to make the product that led to success in the first place. I don't begrudge them that. "

But is a percentage comparison more relevant than the number of sets produced? If they are making more non-licensed sets overall, why does it matter if they are also making more licensed sets?

There are 49 2021 City sets listed in the Brickset database. In 2005, the first year of City, LEGO only produced 34 sets. The count from 2021 ranks as the fourth highest number of City sets produced in the past 16 years.

There are non-licensed themes other than City, of course. Last year, LEGO produced 49 Ninjago sets, versus 43 in 2011 and 10 in 2014.

Friends has been around since 2012, when LEGO produced 36 sets. Last year, there were 58.

Last year, there were 17 Seasonal sets. There were 3 in 1999, and 15 in 2011.

LEGO produced more Hidden Side sets in recent years (32) than there were ever Rock Raiders (16). They made more Nexo Knights sets than all of the Aqua Raiders, Aquazone and Atlantis sets combined.

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By in United Kingdom,

To all who are saying one could buy a real typewriter for the price, you really don't get what Lego is about, do you? Lego fans want Lego sets, not something else. Replicating something real with Lego bricks is part of the fun and beauty of this hobby.

About the Castle theme argument, which we already had 100x times - it's not viable. Kids don't want it, only 40+ adults do. And not that many of them, just a loud minority. Lego caters for them with one-off products like the Ideas blacksmith, or Pirate Bay in case of Pirates theme. You are still going to get 18+ homages to old themes, in proportion to the real demand they command. But not a full kids set wave. I don't understand why we are still beating this dead horse.

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By in United States,

@ResIpsaLoquitur said:
"I'm going to throw out a wacky side comment in the hopes that somebody at Lego notices:

I'd love to see a Collectible Minifigure Wave that includes a bunch of classic minifigure reissues. (Remember when we got the original 1978 Police Officer reissued?) So maybe a classic Knight or two, a reissued Captain Redbeard, an original Town fireman, an original print Johnny Thunder....

Anyway, throw in some 80s Castle guys to make our Castle fan here happy."


They've done that: https://brickset.com/sets/theme-Miscellaneous/subtheme-Minifigure-collection

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
" @ResIpsaLoquitur:
“LEGO” is not the name of the company. It’s “The LEGO Company”. It’s part of “The LEGO Group”. Their retail branch is “LEGO Brand Retail”. Still not a noun."


Actually, said company has repeatedly referred to themselves simply as “LEGO”. Many old TV commercials end with the lines: “The new [theme] collection. From LEGO.” So LEGO is a valid way to refer to the company.

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By in United States,

Now that the typewriter is sand green it looks remarkably like the typewriter I used all through college. That alone puts it onto my highly selective wishlist. The increased functionality means it won't stay on the wishlist for long. What's more, I no longer feel at all sad that I passed on the Piano Ideas set. IMO this is much more interesting--even if because I never was interested in playing the piano, whereas I am still grateful for having taken a typing class and still treasure the family typewriters.

Nothing wrong with the Castle theme--but this just vaulted over all three of Pirates of Barracuda Bay, the Medieval Blacksmith, and the 3-in-1 Castle. And, by the way, I'm certainly not 80 yet!

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By in United States,

I believe the topic is of the new Ideas set "Typewriter". Which I think is pretty realistic looking, having actually owned a similar looking typewriter back in the day, (when this was a luxury item to own). It is impressive, since to get LEGO pieces to look like this, is quite the trick. I will be adding this to my wish list, which I keep trying to shorten, unsuccessfully, as they keep coming out with such different great looking sets.
Not to get off topic like so many others have, but the comment about disliking this set because it isn't a Castle, is the most ridiculous comment. What is that, oh it's calling whining.

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By in United States,

But is my green grocer part out value safe? Phew only see 1x4. Lol.

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By in United States,

I make one comment during my lunchbreak, and then I come back after work and if I'm reading the room correctly, some people think I'm a pro-Castle teetotaler. Please understand, I have no dog in this fight between Castle and Typewriters. I'm a Star Wars guy. I just wanted to point out that the ice cream vs pineapple debate is not a case of either/or, as had been alleged in the comment just before mine. Lego, or “The LEGO Company” can make both ice cream or pineapple; that is all. I may've gone too far with the R&D remark, but I just thought it funny to continue with the pineapple and ice cream theme. I thought for sure someone would bring up Set 41906 or Set 10574

The whole purpose of the conversation was to have fun. Some got it and had fun, but it seems some got defensive.
I don't begrudge Lego making the typewriter, and if they never make another Castle theme, it won't bother me (though I'd feel bad for those that love Castle). Anyway, I can't argue over Lego, ice cream, or pineapple ... three of the most wonderful things on the planet.

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By in United States,

Is no one going to talk about the BACKSPACE BUTTON ON THE KEYBOARD!?!?!?!?!? Seriously, that would NOT work on an actual typewriter!

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By in United States,

@Squidkid_Belmont said:
"Is no one going to talk about the BACKSPACE BUTTON ON THE KEYBOARD!?!?!?!?!? Seriously, that would NOT work on an actual typewriter!"
Typewriters had backspace keys. They moved the carriage back one space. On many manual typewriters, it was the only way to produce certain characters. For example, to create an exclamation point on my typewriter, I have to type a period, backspace, then type a single quote. This is also how you do underlining. It was also used for correction: backspace to the mistake, put a piece of correction film over the paper, and strike the mistake key again, transferring the white correction medium onto the paper overtop the error.

Where backspace keys are actually nonsense is on Windows computers, where they don't move the cursor back a space, they actually delete the character behind the cursor. On a Mac, the key is sensibly labeled "delete."

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By in United States,

@Blondie_Wan:
Six copies, huh? That’s...a good start. I can currently account for 65 minifigs, and I think I only bought one copy of the polybag, so that should then mean I bought 14 copies of the battle pack, and won a 15th as a door prize, plus the polybag. I may own a 16th copy of the set. I can confirm I have a sealed copy of the white box, but I don’t know if I kept a sealed copy of the blue box. BTW, since my 30-strong Green Army Men Army (all of which have unique poses based on real plastic army men is stored in an actual Toy Story Collection “Bucket O Soldiers” bucket, I can assure you that _real_ Toy Story army men based on the actual CGI files used for the movies aren’t as cheap as you’d think. Still cheaper than the minifigs, but 72 of them including two paratroopers, but no vehicles or scenery, cost around $20.

@Bmuralles:
Whether they’d sell isn’t the question. Would they sell without cannibalizing sales from another theme? If they spend twice as much developing twice as many sets to sell the exact same quantity of product because Castle builders give up buying a more profitable theme, it doesn’t make sense to offer a full Castle theme. The Creator castle isn’t likely to cannibalize sales as much as a full theme might, and if it does it’ll most likely be because people are buying multiple copies vs just dropping one other purchase to pick up a single copy.

@jkb:
That’s one piece of info they can actually extrapolate, thanks to the VIP program, though I don’t know if they realize it. They can pull all the data on who voted for what projects, and because you use one login for both VIP and Ideas, they can see if people bought sets they voted for. It won’t account for someone voting for a project and then receiving it as a gift, nor will it be able to identify when people buy the set through other retailers, but it should give them some degree of correlation.

@TheBrickGuru24:
My best friend loves pineapple, but is allergic to it. I recently told him about some hybrid variety of white strawberry that I read about, which is supposed to taste like pineapple, but which might not contain whatever chemical(s) trigger his allergy. I’m in the opposite extreme. I can eat it, but I did so so much as a child that I just lost my desire to do so one day.

@Interstellarpig:
3x3 round tiles were introduced for the eyes on the giant Kevin/Bob Minions from 75551, but there’s been at least one set that included plain ones since then.

@ResIpsaLoquitur:
They did that, but it was for the Bricktober box sets.

@stlux:
Simon Liu once told me that the Canadian prices and exchange rates have worked out in their favor now and then, making it so Canadians could buy sets cheaper than anyone in the world. I think it involved hopping the border to buy in the US, though.

@fakespacesquid:
Also, for the parts. Though I used to customize SW action figures, so that still applies, in limited cases, for Hasbro’s stuff as well.

@magni_nominis_umbra:
Where am I buying sets at 50% discount? Because I need to shop there more often. Look, sets that didn’t sell well used to get heavily discounted during clearance purges, at which point people absolutely could pick them up for 50% off. These days they do a better job of curating their product lineup, so it’s rare for most sets to ever end up on clearance in the first place. We used to have as high as a 30% convention discount, but they killed that to make everything “fair across the board” with AFOL Appreciation Days, with a 15% discount, but then within a year they imposed several restrictions in the US that were not applied in the EU.

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By in Canada,

Looks very nice, but is an easy pass at the CAD price. The price per "volume of stuff" is disappointing, especially compared to 21318 and 21322 at the same price point. It is just such a small set to drop $300+ on ($270CAD+ tax), and little hope of a discount at other retailers.

I bit the bullet on the Piano because of strong connection to music. Even so, I feel that the functionality was underwhelming. I can imagine feeling the same remorse unless it looks way better in person.

@stlux said:
"I know this is a sore point with Australians on this site (and similar sentiment is regularly expressed by Canadians), but the simple fact is: your currency is not worth anymore what it once was."

Well I can't speak for the AUD, the CAD has been very steady against the DKK for several years, and has been gaining strongly against the USD the past year.

I know LEGO pricing can't follow daily currency fluctuations, but a better effort to at least stay consistent with USD prices, and not RISE while the CAD is dropping would be appreciated.

Ultimately, CAD prices are high vs USD prices simply because people here are willing to pay them.

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By in United States,

@ALEGOMan :
My theory, which still has merit, is that any licensed IP has to be popular in the US before it’ll get approved for Ideas. So far, Doctor Who is the only Ideas set based on an entertainment IP that did not originate in the US, but it has a reasonably strong following here nonetheless. Red Dwarf has more of a cult following (I’ve watched it, and preferred it to Doctor Who, but not enough to keep up with). Goonies...I don’t know. Maybe the Dimensions pack undersold compared to other themes in that game?

There’s also the fact that both of those _are_ IP projects. They put a limit on how many IP vs non-IP sets they can approve through Ideas. Since a lot more IP projects get voted up, they have a harder time getting approved. Some shows that were very popular have been rejected, and the last few that were approved were each number one in the ratings at one point.

@Slithus_Venom :
Hey, remember how much hate the Blacksmith set got when it was announced?

@sdetsky:
If only there were a way to correct that...

@ResIpsaLoquitur:
Once again, my beef isn't over what people want to call them. Well, as long as they can, and do, distinguish between LEGO bricks and clone brands. It's solely with people who jump down other peoples' throats for "getting it wrong" when they, in fact, can't get it right either. The fact that you have a professional understanding of how trademark law works, and you're still doing mental acrobatics to justify it just makes it worse.

For the record, given how invasively they data-mine everyone so they can sell the information, I'd be far more likely to use "Google" as a four-letter word than as a noun or an adjective. And I'm from Michigan. We understand full well that Coke is just one of many brands of pop.

@Norikins:
My dad actually has a DVD with selected episodes of shows he watched as a kid, and the only commercial that's left intact is possibly the first one advertising LEGO product in the US. It was licensed to Samsonite back then, and it wasn't long before TLC was looking for ways to break that contract. It might be worth considering who truly deserves the blame for that.

@AllenSmith:
The two things I hate most about Macs is that garbage one-button mouse, and the lack of a proper Delete key. They have Delete, but it's just a Backspace key. The fact that they're sticking to their guns as they try to get everyone to convert to touch-screen keyboards just makes it worse, since I always seem to end up with the cursor immediately to the left of any character I want to delete. Which is when a proper delete key would come in most handy.

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By in Japan,

Interesting set. If it moves like a genuine typewriter it will be a conversation centerpiece for sure. But much beyond its technical merit, I don't find the set appealing. This is a slab of bricks representing antiquated desk tech no longer seen in most places. It was never really an adornment and I am not sure where one would "display" this as such.

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By in United States,

When I showed the picture to my mother, she didn't realize it was Lego, she just thought it was a replica typewriter, so definite props to the designers there!

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
" @Blondie_Wan :
Six copies, huh? That’s...a good start. I can currently account for 65 minifigs, and I think I only bought one copy of the polybag, so that should then mean I bought 14 copies of the battle pack, and won a 15th as a door prize, plus the polybag. I may own a 16th copy of the set. I can confirm I have a sealed copy of the white box, but I don’t know if I kept a sealed copy of the blue box. BTW, since my 30-strong Green Army Men Army (all of which have unique poses based on real plastic army men is stored in an actual Toy Story Collection “Bucket O Soldiers” bucket, I can assure you that _real_ Toy Story army men based on the actual CGI files used for the movies aren’t as cheap as you’d think. Still cheaper than the minifigs, but 72 of them including two paratroopers, but no vehicles or scenery, cost around $20."


Yeah, I’d love to have gotten more, but it’s tough enough trying to collect multiple themes at once, let alone army-build with a bunch of them. I greedily wanted more, but usually when I have a slew of some set it’s because I found it on sale, but I never did that with these. Still, I could justify buying them because it wasn’t super-expensive, even for my eternally impoverished self. I also managed to get 11 of the 30070 Alien Space Ship polybag, so I got semi-decent armies of both of the franchise’s two major varieties of little green men. Peculiarly, though, the boxed set I amassed the most copies of wasn’t the natural army-builder that is the Army Men set, but 7591 Construct-a-Zurg, thanks to finding eight of them inexplicably temporarily marked down to three bucks apiece at a Walmart that would later restock the set at full MSRP a couple months later. Not sure what happened there, but at that eight-for-slightly-less-than-the-price-of-one price it was arguably worth it just for that set’s own Pizza Planet Alien minifigure, never mind the wealth of purple bricks that make up Zurg himself. On the whole I think I did pretty well collecting the 2010 TS line. Alas, by the time of the next movie my LEGO funds were diverted elsewhere, and I acquired nary a single one of the sets from the 2019 line accompanying the fourth movie. I’d like to rectify that, but I have other priorities competing with that one.

I know I may have exaggerated the affordability of actual, non-LEGO little green army men, but I figured it was acceptable for the tone of the post. But LEGO’s versions are still considerably more expensive, of course (though as noted, they’re also a rare example of a more-or-less life-sized LEGO replica of a real-life object with greater functionality than what it mimics, rather than less - though then again, that’s just of “regular” army men, not ones as seen in Toy Story to be sapient beings capable of independent movement when no one is looking - though OTOH, that’s what Toy Story posits all our toys are, which would of course include LEGO, soooo…).

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By in United States,

@Blondie_Wan:
Between 30070 and the S1 Robot, I got around 70 of one, and just over 100 of the other. I just can't remember which is which. For the Robot, I was hunting them down wherever I could find S1 minifigs to check (I had about half of the barcodes memorized, and that was the first that I made a conscious point of doing so with). For the Claw Alien, it mostly fell to TRU's weird timing. They had a promo where you could spend a certain amount and get a free copy of the polybag, but I think they also marked the price of the polybag down for a bit. I basically hit every TRU I could get to and scooped them up. When they rang them up, a large chunk of them got comped because of the promo.

The other set that I got in insane quantities was 8555. The Bohrok Va included a new part, which was the friction axle-pin. Each set used three in black, and came with a third spare. Shortly after this, the piece was color-locked to blue, making those black friction axle-pins very expensive:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=43093&colorID=11

Kay*Bee/KB Toys got busted for price-fixing. At least in my state, you're allowed to mark consumer goods down from MSRP and advertise it as a markdown. If you've sold it at a higher price, you can legally advertise it as a markdown if you price it lower than that price. They would raise their "regular" price, and then immediately "discount" it by crossing out the higher price and writing in a lower one with red pen. Someone had the wise idea that they could save tons of time and money if they just printed the price stickers with the adjustments instead of adding them by hand. It was really obvious that the red "handwriting" was printed on a contemporary computer printer, and they got taken to court. They lost, and were forced to offer an unadvertised sale. Bohrok Va got marked down to 3/$5, and I cleaned them out. I got about 100 copies of Nuhvok Va, plus a few in some of the other colors. That's over 300 black friction axle-pins.

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By in United Kingdom,


@AllenSmith said:
"(...)
Where backspace keys are actually nonsense is on Windows computers, where they don't move the cursor back a space, they actually delete the character behind the cursor. On a Mac, the key is sensibly labeled "delete.""

It's a little strong to call it "nonsense" since most people are much more familiar with backspace's current function as 'backwards delete'.
You've also got to be a bit careful about letting your biases show: backspace's current function is the same in other, non-Windows, systems (e.g. Linux) and, indeed, had its current function before Windows existed!

What's really "nonsense" is helping clients who use certain Apple "MAGIC" keyboards (spoiler: not magic) and catching myself looking for the backspace key and\or wondering why the key with "Delete" written on it works wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME.

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By in Germany,

@PurpleDave said:
" @AustinPowers :
Seriously, dude, _IT’S_NOT_”LEGO”_!!!!!!! There is a page on there website (...) learn to say it right first."


"There" website?

From someone who appears to be so anal about everything, it's quite amusing to see such a blunder.

And I thought YOU were the native speaker and not me. ;-)

Seriously though, dude, no hard feelings. I quite enjoy our arguments. :-)

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By in Australia,

Me like.

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By in Czechia,

Another dust collector set...

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By in United States,

@bananaworld said:
"It's a little strong to call it "nonsense" since most people are much more familiar with backspace's current function as 'backwards delete'.
You've also got to be a bit careful about letting your biases show: backspace's current function is the same in other, non-Windows, systems (e.g. Linux) and, indeed, had its current function before Windows existed!

What's really "nonsense" is helping clients who use certain Apple "MAGIC" keyboards (spoiler: not magic) and catching myself looking for the backspace key and\or wondering why the key with "Delete" written on it works wrong EVERY SINGLE TIME."


The term and concept of backspacing originated in typewriters, and repurposing a typewriter term to computers in a way that was incoherent to anyone most familiar with how typewriters work (that is, everybody back in the day) has always struck me as very odd. Maybe you didn't grow up experiencing the supreme agony of watching the wrong letter get struck and knowing your whole page was ruined, then having to backspace and white-out, but I sure did. Our fancy electric typewriter actually even had an automatic "erase" function that didn't really work. It was quite exciting to use a computer that had this new concept of deleting.

The position of the backspace key on typewriter keyboard varied wildly from model to model, since it was something a good typist would hardly ever need. But on computers, even with the Colemak layout, I've yet to see a keyboard where the backward-delete wasn't in the upper right of the main letter bank, so I've never had any trouble finding it whatever it's labeled. Then again, I don't look at my fingers while typing. I have occasionally encountered keyboards where the backward-delete key is narrow and has a backslash to its left. Those really mess me up, because my muscle memory only reaches to the left side of the regular wide key, so I wind up typing an unwanted backslash.

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By in Turkey,

the space bar looks like a design mistake it should also be grey with a black top

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By in United Kingdom,

@maaboo35 said:
"Can I save my game on it, though?"

Under rated response! :)

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By in Finland,

@PurpleDave said:
" @ALEGOMan :
So far, Doctor Who is the only Ideas set based on an entertainment IP that did not originate in the US, "


and Minecraft

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By in Germany,

@The_Toniboeh said:
[[ @PurpleDave said:
[[ @ALEGOMan :
So far, Doctor Who is the only Ideas set based on an entertainment IP that did not originate in the US, ]]

and Minecraft ]

And Yellow Submarine.

Also it could be argued that both Winnie the Pooh and Voltron did originally originate in the UK and Japan respectively, even though the Ideas sets were of course based off the US version of those properties.

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By in Denmark,

To all the people moaning over the price:

There's a perfectly workable way to stop being frustrated with the price of LEGO:

Behave like a rational adult and come to terms with the fact that ANY given set is going to cost more than you'd like. I wonder how you people manage the rest of your lives, seeing how your expectation management is so poor when it comes to LEGO...

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By in Netherlands,

No denying it looks like an actual typewriter but IMHO this is the most boring legofied object I've seen till date.

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By in Germany,

@Macropod said:
"To all the people moaning over the price:

There's a perfectly workable way to stop being frustrated with the price of LEGO:"

Indeed there is: never buy directly from LEGO unless the set is exclusively available there and really worth the price to you.
For example I recently bought the Everyone is awesome set directly from LEGO (actually I bought two), because imho that set offers tremendous value for money even at RRP.
Many other sets, not so much. But most of the time one just has to be a little patient before any given set becomes available at a substantial discount via Amazon or some other retailers.

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By in United Kingdom,

I have no where to display it but think it looks great, though I imagine many non lego friends will not even realise its lego, same with Piano as they have less studs well hardly any on show.
I will probably get this at some point, though a guitar is rumoured to!

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By in United States,

@Patrik78 said:
"Another dust collector set..."

According to my understanding of entropy, *all* sets are dust collecting sets

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By in Germany,

@fakespacesquid said:
" @Patrik78 said:
"Another dust collector set..."

According to my understanding of entropy, *all* sets are dust collecting sets "


TBH, collecting dust is the easiest, cheapest and fastest way of collecting.

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By in United States,

@bananaworld:
@AllenSmith:
We recently upgraded one of our project laptops at work, but the one we got rid of switched the CTRL and FN keys in the lower left. I regularly used the copy/paste functions to transfer character strings, and instinctively use the keyboard shortcuts without looking at the keys. Every computer and keyboard I’ve ever owned, so it was like having to jump in a British car once every couple months, and driving an American car the rest of the time, but with a bit less risk of catastrophic death or dismemberment.

@AustinPowers:
I haven’t had a proper vacation in nearly two years, due to having a “pandemic-proof” job. It’s nice not having to worry about going getting a paycheck, but my game has lost a step or two.

@The_Toniboeh:
I meant “entertainment” as shorthand for “TV and movies” and wasn’t really considering video games. But yeah, Minecraft had its Ideas set before Microsoft bought the company.

@AustinPowers:
Ah, but that’s not true! Yellow Submarine, the film, which is the basis for the Ideas set, was produced by United Artists (also the distributor) and King Features Syndicate, both of which are American companies. It was more a movie about The Beatles than a movie by The Beatles.

@Macropod:
I recently needed to add a penny to qualify for free shipping, and I’m looking through the cheap stuff just to find something that cost less than shipping. I just couldn’t bring myself to spend $2.49 on a brick separator. That’s just too much to pay for something I keep getting for free and barely ever use.

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By in Canada,

@Macropod said:
"ANY given set is going to cost more than you'd like."

There are many recent sets that offer good value even at full MSRP, and it is fair to comment on sets like this that do not.

Rational adults are those that want to put their hard earned money to the best use, which means saying no thank you sometimes.

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By in United States,

Honestly, my opinion has changed. It's not a licensed set, and is very good looking. The functions of this are quite advanced for what it is.

And, as I've said before, LEGO doesn't need licenses to make great sets.

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By in United Kingdom,


@PurpleDave said:
"We recently upgraded one of our project laptops at work, but the one we got rid of switched the CTRL and FN keys in the lower left."

Lenovo, yeah? INFURIATING. No risk to you of dismemberment, but that 'feature' makes me wanna dismember their laptops sometimes. Thankfully on the later ones (unlike the bad ol' days), the functionality of those two keys can be swapped in 'BIOS'. You can then add stickers to the keys, or leave them to (doubly) confuse people. :-D

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By in United States,

@bananaworld:
Yeah, that sounds about right. Swappable keys, huh? Defenestration seems an easier solution, but the only ones that really affected me have been replaced, so it’s no longer a problem.

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By in United States,

What a beautiful object. Maybe the most aesthetically pleasing LEGO set I've ever seen.

I've never used typewriters but know beautiful industrial design when I see it. Too bad the focus of so many comments was the simpleminded comment someone made about 80 year olds, not that I blame people for reacting to such an ignorant statement.

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By in United States,

Between potted plants, ships in bottles, world maps, grand pianos, and now a typewriter, LEGO seems to be on the trend of “Replace all the real-life objects in your house with their brick-built equivalents.”

Where will the trend go next? My money is on a flushable brick-built toilet.

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By in Japan,

@jschwarz said:
"Between potted plants, ships in bottles, world maps, grand pianos, and now a typewriter, LEGO seems to be on the trend of “Replace all the real-life objects in your house with their brick-built equivalents.”

Where will the trend go next? My money is on a flushable brick-built toilet. "


Or a LEGO flushable toilet that only flushes money. Best of both worlds right there.

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By in Netherlands,

@jschwarz said:
"Where will the trend go next? My money is on a flushable brick-built toilet. "

Not that it's flushable, but there actually is a pretty fine-looking LEGO Toilet with almost 5500 supporters on the Ideas site...

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By in United Kingdom,


Hmm, thinking back to typing in my youth and the distinctive sounds, smells, & feelings of a typewriter:

This needs a soundbrick with a bell's 'TING' noise to tell you to lever the carriage back over!

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By in Netherlands,

@huw: When are you expecting to post a review for this? This set has me interested a lot, and i'm looking forward to what you guys have to say about it :)

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By in Portugal,

Lego and Mr. Guinness partiram a louça toda. AMAZING

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By in United Kingdom,

yes it looks like a typewriter but I find that really boring. it’s not a toy, it’s kind of a puzzle. I hope we don’t get more real word replica objects. I don’t like where Lego is going with these “adult” sets.

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By in Australia,

I have a friend who isn’t really a LEGO fan, but I’m sure he’d love this! I don’t mind it either, but I’m not sure where to place it.

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By in United States,

@ALEGOMan said:
"true, but also this is niche, not many people even know what this is. Especially considering how Lego is a toy aimed at children"

Not every Lego set is aimed at children. That's sort of what the "18+" is for.

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By in Australia,

Amazing set! But what's with the overly inflated Australian price. I mean we are used to this by now but thats a bit excessive. Aussie price converts to $254 USD at the moment.

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By in United Kingdom,

@wilcosu35 said:
" @huw: When are you expecting to post a review for this? This set has me interested a lot, and i'm looking forward to what you guys have to say about it :)"

Tuesday 15th June, 2pm BST

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By in Luxembourg,

@monki said:
"Amazing set! But what's with the overly inflated Australian price. I mean we are used to this by now but thats a bit excessive. Aussie price converts to $254 USD at the moment."

Lego is a European company, so it makes more sense to compare to the EUR price.
Sure, Denmark officially still uses Danish krone, but that is pegged to the EUR. (The exchange rate is only allowed to move within a 2.25% band.)

AUD 330 converts to approx EUR 210, so pretty close to what we will pay in Europe.

(AUD 330 is actually cheaper than the Danish RRP, but they of course pay 25% VAT.)

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By in Netherlands,

@Huw said:
" @wilcosu35 said:
" @huw: When are you expecting to post a review for this? This set has me interested a lot, and i'm looking forward to what you guys have to say about it :)"

Tuesday 15th June, 2pm BST"


Thank you very much!

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By in Germany,

@Agnew said:
[[ @magni_nominis_umbra said:
[[ @stlux said:
[[ @Leetr_Frkno said:
[[ ... the quality of the product is magnitudes worse than what it once was. I don't believe this part of the equation is debatable.]]

20 years ago was part of my "dark ages", but I gotta say that I'm constantly blown away by the sets that are being released these days. The build techniques, variety of subject matter and physical quality of the product always impress me. We're the sets from 20 years ago really better? Can you suggest some for me to check out? Thanks!]]

While I wouldn’t say that the Sets from 20 years ago were „better“ in terms of functionality and Design, I have to say that the quality issues with color consistency and their shift to the softer and more milky trans-colors are not really up to their „only the best is good enough“ story that they are telling the whole time. If you don’t know what I‘m talking about, I can give you many examples!
]]]]

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By in United States,

@ChrisBricks81 said:
"No denying it looks like an actual typewriter but IMHO this is the most boring legofied object I've seen till date. "

LEGO: "Hold my beer." Announces a shoe.

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By in Netherlands,

@Spike730 said:
"For 200 EUR you can get a real vintage one."

It’s the same with the SNES

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By in New Zealand,

Bought mine this morning New Zealand time. FOMO as missed out on botanical ones.

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