LEGO Ideas: Third 2020 review results coming soon!
Posted by Huw,LEGO has just posted on the Ideas blog that the results of the third 2020 review will be published tomorrow at 2pm BST (London)
25 projects were considered, a list of which you'll find after the break.
Take a look, then let us know your predictions in the comments. Personally, I'm rooting for Wallace and Gromit.
1. Boeing 737 Passenger Plane by BigPlanes-Customs
2. Colosseum (Architecture Style) by SkyWalter
3. Gravity Falls: The Mystery Shack by TopLego8 & Minibrick Productions
4. Brick Town Police Station by Bricked1980
6. Red Dwarf Starbug LEGO Idea by Bobs Vintage Bricks
7. Avatar: The Last Airbender - YIP YIP! by StudioTRico
8. Classic Castle by DERBOOR
9. Open MRI by Apollo Exconde
10. Motorized Lighthouse by Roses Must Build
11. Avatar: The Illuminated World of Pandora by bulldoozer
12. Spirited Away by legotruman
13. Jumanji of 1995 by NIKANA
14 The Little Venice by Bricky_Brick
15. Auto Union Type C Racecar by redera00
16. Automated Garbage Truck by MochiMaster & Alexander Hamsterton
17. TX Master Games by TXMaster
18. Milwaukee Art Museum by Vida András
19. The Car Wash by Bricky_Brick
20. Wallace & Gromit by Tom Gerardin
21. Among Us: The Skeld by MinifigInDisguise
22. Roman Warship by Iyan Ha
23. The Addams Family Mystery Mansion by Disneybrick55
24. GMC - Blue Chip 100 [1957] by Ing-Manuel
25. Viking Village by BrickHammer
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I want AVATAR and Wallace & Gromit, please! :)
I'd welcome any Ghibli set, so Spirited Away would be my top pick. Plenty of really great designs here, though.
I'm surprised the Colosseum and Bag End are in there, given they've released both as official sets.
I could be tempted by Gravity Falls if it made it, the motorised lighthouse is different and quite well executed but what I really hope is Wallace & Grommit makes the cut.
Wallace and Gromit for me! The only one I'd consider getting, so will be interesting to see what gets the green light
The lighthouse is by far my favourite here.
Garbage truck has a brilliant mechanism. Viking village, castle and the Spirited Away ideas are nice as well. Not feeling that much for the others to be fair. At least there's not yet another sitcom one.
Prediction: They'll only pick 1 project again.
gravity falls need to real sets
Viking Village and/or Classic Castle !!
If not either, Roman Warship.
With the lack of full Castle theme, IDEAS is one of the better ways to get historical sets without full need of a wave.
Viking/Roman sets especially are better suited via IDEAS as they are basicly 1-off releases. (but have been seen as CMF in the past)
3in1 just got a new Castle (with only 3 figs and 0 horses), but having a new IDEAS Castle with a different faction and horses would be nice, from a similar time period era as the Falcons.
Having only 1 Castle faction is a bit boring, and IDEAS Blacksmith , while awesome , was NOT a castle, it just was Castle themed.
Also 5004419 : Classic Knights Minifigure shows they can still do Crusaders in modern time.
There are several that would be plenty popular and purchased by Fans, but sadly I have the feeling that TLG will only pick the Boeing 737. Why? Because TLG refuse to evolve their review rules, and they've always liked domestic Aircraft right? (Yippee...).
I can't say any of these really grab me. I suspect Addams Family or Lighthouse has the best chance.
No Disney stuff here, so we all either have already won or none of these will make it.
I think the only 2 with a chance are 1: Boeing 737 and 22: Roman Warship. The rest can be excluded on at least one of the broader judging criteria, IMO.
I would like 737, because Lego made only one UCS passenger plane - 10177.
Nothing particularly compelling for me in here, aside from maybe Wallace and Gromit. At least I'm relieved that this one won't be as nerve-wracking for me as usual...
I just don't see most of these happening. Maybe Avatar? Cool entries but I don't see a space on store shelves for most of this.
@jkb said:
"No Disney stuff here, so we all either have already won or none of these will make it."
Gravity Falls is Disney.
I've read, and re-read the description of the TX Masters game, and while there is the kernel of an interesting idea in there based around Taekwon Do sparring, I can't see it gaining mass-market appeal. And while there seems to be some debate on the comments section over whether or not the creator of the concept is a TKD instructor that enlisted his students to support the idea, the fact that TXmaster directly thanks the All European TKD Federation and International TKD Federation, I think we can work out how this got to the review stage.
Also Wallace & Gromit please!
Bag End is probably the most sure bet on the roster this round. Given the popularity of 79003, in addition to the fact it will have been a decade since its release. I'm aware of more than a few Lord of the Rings fans whose only Tolkein Lego purchase was Bag End, and who'd likely appreciate an update. Plus it allows more fans to get their hands on one. If Lego was going to remake any LotR set, Bag End would have been the surest guess.
Think the last LotR submission which got to review board was Minas Tirith, back when it was still Cuusoo, and Lego was still making their own sets of it. Rather hopeful for this one.
Wouldn't be surprised if Lego ends up making the MRI though. It seems the kind of messaging Lego is generally fond of, depending on market research. Viking Village or Roman Warship also seem plausible, though not both.
Also, I think the Roman Colosseum has a real chance here. It seems like just the kind of set which Lego would want to make. I can already envision it as a set on store shelves.
My prediction is: none of these will get picked for production.
I am notoriously bad at picking what will be approved. However, I would like to see the Jumanji house as a set. We have been watching this movie series recently and my children really enjoy it. Plus, the house might make a good addition to a LEGO city after being cleaned up a bit.
Automated Garbage Truck, Avatar: Pandora, Bag End, Wallace & Gromit are my hopefuls.
That Boeing 737 and Little Venice are wonderful models too.
The Roman Colosseum won't stand a chance, as Lego already have the giant one on the shelves and (if this years Taj Mahal architecture set is anything to go by) already have one being prepped for release. Lego have also done an official set based on Bag End before, so that's out too (unfortunately).
Looking through the lineup in terms of sets that are novel and different to anything done previously in the Ideas range, I would say the Roman Warship is the most likely to win.
That said, I am desperately hoping Wallace and Gromit makes it through!!!
Red Dwarf! I would buy it.
As a few others have noted nothing really jumps out in this lot. Most won't be picked due to already have been done by Lego. that and submissions falls in line with a current theme or would require new IP license. Garbage truck is nifty but falls under city. Lighthouse is kind of interesting but rather large for just a light up/rotation feature.
Only one that would interest me is the Viking since its been about 15 years since that theme died.
I might buy:
Boeing 737
Wallace and Gromit
Garbage Truck
Roman Warship
I think Garbage Truck should win. It's a clever mechanism that fits well in city layouts, and Ideas needs more sets at lower price points.
Colosseum, Classic Castle, and Police Station are right out.
Would love to see Wallace & Gromit and Starbug being made (though maybe a bit smaller).
Venice, Addams Family and Viking Village all look good, but everything else is highly derivative of other LEGO sets so I can quite easily see nothing making it through this time.
Addams Family Mansion HAS to get through this time. Isn’t it the second one that’s made it to the review stage? Surely Lego must realise people want this by now?!?!?
Rooting for Wallace and Gromit, Garbage Truck and the Car Wash. If the Lego review board is still undecided, it looks like by the comments they should be picking Wallace and Gromit.
Not sure who Wallace and Gromit are, but I'm surprised there's little support for the Addams Family Mansion.
The Addams Family fits right in with classic TV and the demographic of many of us AFOLs – people who grew up watching the show either in original TV syndication or on the rerun networks. It's spawned cartoons, movies and reunion movies ... and I'd say this one ought to be strongly considered.
I'd like the Roman warship; my wife would probably like Wallace and Gromit.
Hoping for The Last Airbender, Jumanji 95 and the Roman warship.
Lots of great options, as always. My personal favorites are Classic Castle, Viking Village, Open MRI, Motorized Lighthouse, Automated Garbage Truck, and Roman Warship among non-licensed proposals, and among licensed ones, Avatar: The Last Airbender - YIP YIP!, Gravity Falls: The Mystery Shack, Bag End, Spirited Away, Wallace & Gromit, The Addams Family Mystery Mansion, and Milwaukee Art Museum. I don’t know which are likeliest, but those are the ones I’d personally like most.
Those opining they will pick nothing or only one should be aware they’re running a contest to guess which idea(s) will be approved, with a signed copy of the Friends Central Perk set awarded in a random drawing from all the entries that guess correctly or, if there are none, all the entries that come closest. I doubt very much they’d do that if they weren’t picking anything, and the part about whichever entries come closest suggests to me they are indeed picking one, as they’d surely not have a problem choosing which entries are right if there’s only one selection. But we’ll see tomorrow!
Fingers crossed for a lighthouse with a motorised light, just as long as they redesign the fan submission A LOT. Love the idea of a large Creator Expert type lighthouse set, but not the submission itself.
Here's hoping for Red dwarf. But I can't really see it happening.
I would have said the Police Station, but zero chance with latest modular release, after that Auto Union Type-C race car
1. Walalace and Gromit
2. Roman Warship
3. Auto Union Type C
I may only buy the Wallace and Gromit though...
@dovahben2 said:
" @jkb said:
"No Disney stuff here, so we all either have already won or none of these will make it."
Gravity Falls is Disney."
Okay, then there's the winner.
Bag end would be the only one I would purchase, but would be shocked if they actually chose it since it has already been made in a set before.
I REALLY hope Gravity Falls Mystery Shack makes the cut!
Gravity Falls for me.
I don't think many of these are likely at all. I would like to see Wallace and Gromit, and I think it might have a chance as it's different enough from other products they're doing and does have worldwide popularity, though perhaps not as strong in America which would count against it.
The garbage truck is cool but too small for an Ideas product as they're currently doing them. It might work as a GWP.
Many of these are very weak entries or very unlikely, probably more than some of the recent reviews with 50-100% more entries.
Ah, I'd forgotten about this round. I can't remember my original thoughts, but looking at it now, I'd like to see the Roman warship and Viking Village, but don't have much hope for either of those. The rest I'm not really bothered about, although it's possible Lego may pick an idea and transform it in the design phase to something really amazing....
Edit: oh, little Venice is nice as well but I don't see much chance of that either.
What I wish: Spirited Away, Gravity Falls or AMOGUS.
What will happen: Avatar or Wallace & Gromit (or even both)
Well, at least the Smash Ultimate DLC annoucements are less disappointing.
I'd consider adding any of these to my collection if selected:
3. Gravity Falls: The Mystery Shack
11. Avatar: The Illuminated World of Pandora
14. The Little Venice
20. Wallace & Gromit
22. Roman Warship
Personally I wouldn't rule out Garbage Truck--kids love watching the garbage truck do its thing. I kind of want Lego to pick TX Master just to see what, if any, survives the conversion process. On the other hand, the last thing I want is more junk in Ideas.
Rooting for the Automated Garbage Truck!
'Avatar: The Last Airbender' and 'Spirited Away' are favourites too, but not sure if I'd like the price tags.
Wallace and Gromit, Auto Union Type C Racecar and/or GMC Blue Chip 100 - others won't be made.
Nothing really says "buy me", but I would consider buying the Roman ship and LIttle Venice as display pieces. Also the 737, because I have LEGO planes hanging from the ceiling all over the house, and this would be a nice addition.
I love Wallace and Gromit and the set is really well done, but I've no idea how popular they are outside of UK/ Ireland.
Second for me would be Venice. I hope that's different enough from regular modulars to have a chance.
I think it's useless to hope for anything, cuz probably there will be only 1 or max. 2 winners.
Nevertheless, these 5 stand out for me:
1 Bag end! LoTR, Hobbit, ... anything to bring back the theme ... !!!
2 The viking village, hell yeah! It's really time to bring these guys back! (and hopefully more...)
3 Avatar last airbender: a huge air buffalo and maybe all the famous characters? yep!
4 Avatar Pandora: the film was great, been 12 years now, sequel coming near? This design is tooo beautiful to reject!
5 Roman ship. History, Romans, battles, ... I say 'yes'!
I want so many of these. The Mystery Shack, Bag End, Among Us, the Lighthouse, Garbage Truck, and the Viking Village would all be great!
Does anyone know what was picked from the last 50 ideas submitted
They'll probably pick the Art Museum and LITERALLY nothing else!
Maybe it's time Lego Ideas increase the cutoff vote to 20,000?
@Bagelwolf said:
"I'm surprised the Colosseum and Bag End are in there, given they've released both as official sets."
yes, especially since the Colosseum set is practically brand new.
I'll buy: 737 (maybe), classic castle, lighthouse, venice, Type C racecar, car wash, roman warship and viking village.
Definitely Wallace and Gromit. I thought that as soon as I saw it on Lego Ideas before it had the votes. The build is so iconic, how could it not be the winner.
I was thinking Lego Ideas should really like the fans vote after they have 25 entries let us vote again for the final decision.
I want BigPlane's Boeing 737 and saabfans Bag End
@darthdrauf said:
" @Bagelwolf said:
"I'm surprised the Colosseum and Bag End are in there, given they've released both as official sets."
yes, especially since the Colosseum set is practically brand new."
I'm pretty sure that list includes every submission that got to 10k votes, no matter what TLC might think of its chances of selection. It seems pretty obvious they won't get selected but they still got enough votes to at least have a mention.
I might be interested in the Mystery Shack but I have to say, this run leaves mme rather lukewarm... I suppose that's for the best, since there's way too many non Ideas sets that are incredible I still have yet to get...
The Office.
GMC Blue Chip is my favorite
Wallace and Gromit, followed by the Boeing
I'm not getting my hopes up, so I won't be disappointed.
I'd be really happy about Wallace and Gromit making it though :-)
@mkrey said:
"Maybe it's time Lego Ideas increase the cutoff vote to 20,000?
"
Why? That would surely mean far fewer proposals make it to review. Why would we want that?
For me the only possible sets to release as Ideas are Wallace & Gromit and Motorized Lighthouse.
Mystery shack or bust for me.
TLC seems really set against releasing Addams Family-sets - this is what, the fourth effort? It's a good effort, I'd really like an official Addam Family Mansion.
Although if I'm honest, I might go for the Mystery Shack instead. It's too hard to resist Gravity Falls, so - I'm in!
For me I want Wallace and Gromit. Also the automated garbage truck.
Wallace and Gromit all day long.
Definitely Wallace and Gromit, just not sure of their wider appeal.
Has anyone heard any leaks about the fan vote from the poll for a new classic lego set? That seems to have gone very quiet.
My predictions were in the January post here:
https://brickset.com/article/57152/25-projects-qualify-in-latest-lego-ideas-review-period
Summary of ratings ranked by odds:
24) GMC trucks = 80% (0% chance that the chrome survives to the final model.)
16) Garbage Truck = 75%
20) Wallace & Gromit = 75%
11) Avatar/Pandora = 70%
14) Little Venice = 60%
10) Lighthouse = 60%
25) Viking Village = 50%
13) Jumanji = 45%
21) Among Us = 45%
8) Castle = 45%
3) Mystery Shack = 40%
22) Roman Warship = 40% (0% chance it has the title "WARship".)
23) Addams Family = 40%
12) Spirited Away = 40%
19) The Car Wash = 35%
15) Racecar = 30%
7) Avatar/Airbender = 15%
18) Milwaukee Art Museum = 10%
9) Open MRI = 5%
6) Red Dwarf = 5%
1) 737 plane = 2%
17) TK Master Games = 1%
5) Bag End = 0%
2) Colosseum = 0%
4) Modular Police Station & Doughnut shop = 0%
I would rank Castle MUCH lower than 45% now given the recent 3-in-1 set...but I stand by my other ratings. See my original post for my reasoning. (NOTE: This is NOT how well I like a set, but a prediction of odds.)
When the Avatar sequels finally start coming out (supposedly December of 2022 is the first one), I would not be surprised if LEGO actually does a whole line of sets. A whole bunch of giant family friendly science fiction movies coming out every other Christmas, through the Walt Disney Company, which has made heaps of other merchandise for the first film including a whole theme park, seems like a good match for LEGO now that they've gotten so good at brick-built animals.
The point being that the development process is starting right around now, if that's going to happen, and there's no way that IDEAS set would happen now.
Gravity Falls! Gravity Falls! Gravity Falls!
I'd also love to see the Spirited Away bathhouse pass; but I suspect that if the Ideas team decide to make a Ghibli set, they might hold off on this round so that they can pick the Totoro Catbus from the following review instead: I suspect it would be the more marketable of the two options.
But yeah, Gravity Falls Mystery Shack is the one that I'd REALLY love to see make it through ^^
The Auto Union is a stunning build and is the only one that stands out for me.
They're going to choose 4 from this list? I don't think there are 4 very good ideas.
I really want the young 20 something crowd to get the Avatar Airbender set, but for me I'd pick the Viking Village.
@Blondie_Wan said:
" @mkrey said:
"Maybe it's time Lego Ideas increase the cutoff vote to 20,000?
"
Why? That would surely mean far fewer
proposals make it to review. Why would we want that?"
Because some really ordinary sets are making it through (TX games!?), and most of these have ZERO or little chance of making it through as they’ve either just been done, or involve an unlikely licence, or just wouldn’t appeal to most people - its the same with every round of these IDEAS reviews.
That’s not to say there aren’t brilliant creations each time - there are - but the 10,000 votes barrier seems far too low …. Particularly when far more people would be voting now, than when TLG first came up with the 10,000 votes threshold in the first place, some years ago!
@lemish34 said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
" @mkrey said:
"Maybe it's time Lego Ideas increase the cutoff vote to 20,000?
"
Why? That would surely mean far fewer
proposals make it to review. Why would we want that?"
Because some really ordinary sets are making it through (TX games!?), and most of these have ZERO or little chance of making it through as they’ve either just been done, or involve an unlikely licence, or just wouldn’t appeal to most people - its the same with every round of these IDEAS reviews.
That’s not to say there aren’t brilliant creations each time - there are - but the 10,000 votes barrier seems far too low …. Particularly when far more people would be voting now, than when TLG first came up with the 10,000 votes threshold in the first place, some years ago!
"
Split the difference at 15k. Seriously, how did some of these get this many votes of support?
Not a bad selection. My picks are for Spirited Away, The Viking Village and Wallace and Gromit. I’m also a Red Dwarf fan, so I might pick up Starbug, but I’m personally not a massive fan of the build.
Gravity falls would be cool since that got so close last review session. Wallace and gromit would be excellent like everyone and you said I just don’t want to get my hopes up
it would be a CRIME if that 1957 GMC truck doesn't win. There can neverr be enough Lego cars
@Briguy52748 said:
"Not sure who Wallace and Gromit are, but I'm surprised there's little support for the Addams Family Mansion."
Funny you should say that. Different people, different experiences. While I have heard of the Addams Family, I have never seen any incarnation of it for more than perhaps little snippets. And I would never consider buying a LEGO set of that franchise.
As for those mentioning Mystery Shack or Gravity Falls, I had to look up what that even was as I had never ever heard of those.
Red Dwarf otoh I would purchase any set they would throw at me. But that property appears to be largely unknown outside the UK.
So in essence, everyone has their favorites from what they know and love. What the one knows and loves the other has probably never even heard of, and vice versa.
In the end, whether TLG decides to go with any of these proposals remains to be seen.
Being half-Viking myself, I’d really like to see a historically accurate Viking set (so far we’ve had _one_ minifig), and the Roman galley would be interesting. As much as I’d like W&G, I just don’t think they have the North American fan base to make it feasible, so I’ll just have to be satisfied with having custom minifigs (made of 100% stock parts) of the two title characters riding in my 8-wide Routemaster.
@PDelahanty :
I think you’ve overestimated the GMC project’s chances by about 80%. They already have the GM license for Speed Champions.
@asherkobin :
They’re going to choose anywhere between 0-25 of these to produce. To date, they had never approved more than three, and the only time they’ve done that was when the Piano was held over from the previous review class. I take that to mean they already had an idea they were going to approve it when the previous results were announced, but they had to check some things out before they could say anything publicly. I thought 3-4 was likely for the last review, based on statistics from all previous reviews, and you know how that went.
@kingofthezempk :
What does it matter? They’ve proven they’re capable of wiping the entire slate clean if there’s nothing that they’re excited about. Do you think it gets harder with twice as many projects?
garbage truck is my hope, the only one i'd buy. gravity falls would be tempting though
I'd enjoy either the Milwaukee Art Museum or the Roman Warship, and hope they might be small enough to win after a long run of much larger Ideas getting the nod. I also like Little Venice and the Car Wash, but I don't expect anything that large being chosen. Wallace and Gromit might be fun, but I'm not really very excited by it, and the other sets either are too close to previously released sets (not necessarily Ideas sets!) or just don't interest me at all.
The only ones I have any interest in are:
Classic Castle
Viking Village
The Little Venice
Wallace & Gromit
Roman Warship
Addams Family Mystery Mansion
The following I like the general Ideas but not the execution so without major changes I probably wouldn't buy:
Motorized Lighthouse
Bag End
Gravity Falls: The Mystery Shack
Automated Garbage Truck and Wallace and Gromit as most likely to be accepted prediction.
Just the garbage truck please as my wallet says no to the rest, regardless of what gets chosen.
@Briguy52748 said:
"Not sure who Wallace and Gromit are, but I'm surprised there's little support for the Addams Family Mansion.
The Addams Family fits right in with classic TV and the demographic of many of us AFOLs – people who grew up watching the show either in original TV syndication or on the rerun networks. It's spawned cartoons, movies and reunion movies ... and I'd say this one ought to be strongly considered."
It’s not about what we want, it’s about what they will pick. I would love to have an Addams Family mansion. But I’m almost certain we won’t. They never pick buildings. Anyway, we might have a chance to get it through the new bricklink program. Finger crossed.
I’d buy Spirited Away on day of release!
Plus The Little Venice!
@DearMisterLegoBreaker:
21310 would like a word with you...
Lets hope its jumanji and/or the lighthouse.
@PurpleDave said:
" @DearMisterLegoBreaker:
21310 would like a word with you..."
A great exception to the rule. Curious to see what they will do with the lighthouse :)
I’m not sure why the reactions are what they are. This was really a poor round of submissions overall. And when I say poor I mean poor in the sense of not the best product design ideas. Really good MOCs that do not necessarily translate to quality, mass-producible, marketable products. That’s a difficult thing for many to separate out when evaluating these designs, but that’s the task at hand for LEGO as a company.
Also I’m not sure why the comments stress such fears over price. This is not minifigure scale from what I understand. Isn’t it more of an Architecture size set? I see the smaller figure pieces milling about in the Ideas page photography and it does not appear to be high as far as overall piece count. 115-135 US maybe? Priced like the White House or Trafalgar Square or Taj Majal sets like that I would think. Maybe higher…maybe, because of the Power Functions.
I dunno…one of the commenters way up there had said they predicted only one of these were going to be selected this time around. Makes sense.
Have they ever not picked anything? I’m curious about that…