Random set of the day: Cyber Strikers
Posted by Huwbot,
Today's random set is 8257 Cyber Strikers, released during 1998. It's one of 27 Technic sets produced that year. It contains 367 pieces and 2 minifigs, and its retail price was US$50.
It's owned by 1,423 Brickset members. If you want to add it to your collection you should find it for sale at BrickLink, where new ones sell for around $118.30, or eBay.
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Hmmm, Technic that's kind of a prototype of what would come with the Tarakava in Bionicle. We're still in a similar vein!
They clearly don't understand what cyber means.
So THESE are the guys telling me that they will deposit 46,000 United States dollars into my bank account if I provide a valid credit card number, huh
90s Technic was Peak Technic.
The LEGO set that I never knew existed but which I absolutely need!
Hey, I have the first Batmobile set that has the projectile with the rubber end. Fun fact: that part is also included in the first TIE Bomber set.
@Maxbricks14 said:
"They clearly don't understand what cyber means."
Check the eyes on the guy in purple (no relation).
Purple, Teal, Yellow, and Black, hell yeah!!! Whenever a set has as bold of a colour scheme as this AFoLs get upset nowadays which is a shame.
@Maxbricks14 said:
"They clearly don't understand what cyber means."
This was part of a Competition subtheme (Cyber Competition?) where a Tron guy was pitted against a Borg guy. As far as I'm aware there's no lore (unlike the other Technic subthemes that came out after), but BrickSet has the sets tagged as "Sam Stryker" and "Sam Cyborg" so maybe there's an obscure Club magazine that explains it all.
@Nuclearxpotato said:
"Purple, Teal, Yellow, and Black, hell yeah!!! Whenever a set has as bold of a colour scheme as this AFoLs get upset nowadays which is a shame.
@Maxbricks14 said:
"They clearly don't understand what cyber means."
This was part of a Competition subtheme (Cyber Competition?) where a Tron guy was pitted against a Borg guy. As far as I'm aware there's no lore (unlike the other Technic subthemes that came out after), but BrickSet has the sets tagged as "Sam Stryker" and "Sam Cyborg" so maybe there's an obscure Club magazine that explains it all."
Could be, but it's named cyber stickers, which implies that they are virtual, which they obviously aren't.
I had quite a lot of fun with this set. The "hit the target to eject the driver function" was a lot of fun. There was a Competition-themed screen saver available from Lego.com. If you hit the space bar while the screen saver was running, it would become a game where you had to see how many targets you could hit within the allotted time (one minute if memory serves, although occasionally, it would just keep running until you hit Esc). I had a lot of fun with that screensaver game. And to you young people a screen saver is *not* a desktop wallpaper. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screensaver
@PurpleDave said:
" @Maxbricks14 said:
"They clearly don't understand what cyber means."
Check the eyes on the guy in purple (no relation)."
Yeah, I was about to say, "https://brickset.com/minifigs/tech007/technic-figure-cyber-person-black-legs-mechanical-arms-yellow-head-cyborg-eyepiece-(4114402) (gosh, I love that figure) begs to differ."
@Maxbricks14 said:
" @Nuclearxpotato said:
"Purple, Teal, Yellow, and Black, hell yeah!!! Whenever a set has as bold of a colour scheme as this AFoLs get upset nowadays which is a shame.
@Maxbricks14 said:
"They clearly don't understand what cyber means."
This was part of a Competition subtheme (Cyber Competition?) where a Tron guy was pitted against a Borg guy. As far as I'm aware there's no lore (unlike the other Technic subthemes that came out after), but BrickSet has the sets tagged as "Sam Stryker" and "Sam Cyborg" so maybe there's an obscure Club magazine that explains it all."
Could be, but it's named cyber stickers, which implies that they are virtual, which they obviously aren't."
Cybernetic? Cyborg is a portmanteau of cybernetic organism. And I also just learned that “biomechatronic” is the word that some people mean when they say “biomechanical”.
I got this as a birthday gift back in the day and my brother and I had so much fun. The mechanism works really well although the trigger was prone to falling apart with rough play. We ended up keeping the arms extended and just jousting!
Actually those are super fun if you play against someone. On par with the 2001 Rahi for that (actually they have a lot in common with the Tarakava build wise).
Somewhat decent as a "regular" playset too, the figures have an interesting dystopian sci-fi feel to them and are highly articulated. The crazy design of their vehicles or whatever you call those adds to this.
Nice parts too, if you like the exotic colors (Bright Violet and Bright Bluish Green AKA "Teal").
To the negative points:
-the arms often fail to retract if you only use a single pair of rubber bands as implied in the instructions, and those bands tend to break
-playing a lot with this will show excessive wear on the rubber tips of the "arrows" AND what's probably worse might cause damage to the figures (so using some cheaper ones or even a full dummy is recommended)
-build is a bit repetitive (though the 2 strikers differ more than it seems)
-might be not what you expect from Lego Technic
The set came in a somewhat large box with the classic opening display flap, showing the figures and arrows together with 2 smaller separate boxes, printed with the respective striker vehicle model. Those boxes are essentially identical to the average medium box you'd see in 1998 with a puch-tab (Set 6565 is more or less identical in size and feel), only that the back is plain in the Technic dark blue and it has no legal texts or choke hazard warnings.
Similar to the boxes, instructions are divided as well. The purple one's is thicker, because it features a B-model (a sort of "target dummy" for the teal one I guess, which could also be motorized). The B-model is a bit lack-luster in comparison and it also requires you to get either 2 new black 2x2 tiles or remove some stickers for it's "eyes"...
Teal guy is called "Nick Stryker", purple one "Sammy Cyborg". Whilst there seems to be some sort of lore around Competition/Cyber Slam, TLG wasn't too keen in making it too prominent. The 2 seem to be rivals, but more in a sports sense. Also it seems favor's far more often on Nick's side.
Who needs the Enterprise set when we have Locutus of Borg right here?
@Maxbricks14 said:
"They clearly don't understand what cyber means."
“Cyber: Of or relating to cybernetics—the mathematical study of communication and control in living organisms or machines.“
Hmm, while I’m certainly seeing some communication and control in both living organisms and machines in this set, I’m not sure how much they’re studying it. Unless there’s some famous test involving punching at each other with cartoon extendable arms that I’m unaware of. So you may have a point :D
@Maxbricks14 said:
"… it's named cyber stickers, which implies that they are virtual, which they obviously aren't."
Not that it helps massively with any comprehension of this set, it’s Cyber Strikers, rather than stickers; strike as in hitting stuff.
There’s another set 8266 where it appears the object is for Cyber Sam/Locutus to hit some scorpions which already look like roadkill.
Honestly the technic “competition” tag is worth a browse, it’s all pretty wild, but also looks like genuinely fun toys that do stuff rather than sit collecting dust.
These sets were great, refreshing and added especially unseen colors to the LEGO and Technic catalog.
You had to be there ;)
The image is weirdly cropped.
Here is the full version:
https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/ON/0/8257-1.png
And here is a better overview of the set: https://img.bricklink.com/ItemImage/SN/0/8257-1.png
I miss technic sets like these. Crazy mechanisms for play instead of just serious vehicle recreations.
This set in particular I always wanted. I don't know where it started but it's just such a fun and iconic set, and arguably the best of the competition subtheme as they are both equally matched, instead of what some of the other sets in the theme do. The purple (the original which is now no longer with us) and teal (the original which has been resurrected) are also such a great color scheme.
1998 technic iscsuch a vibe
@Nuclearxpotato said:"...a Tron guy was pitted against a Borg guy."
"You will be assimilated. End of Line."
@JavaBrix said:
"
90s Technic was Peak Technic."
IMO 2005-2013
The reason why 7 thin beams always seems to come in teal and purple on secondary sites. Looks pretty dangerous as one of the guys has already lost an eye for not wearing his helmet. Seems the purple vehicle can be motorized to drive around, although a motorized scissor mechanism would be very clever?
Using the missile projectile piece as a bludgeon is insane parts usage.
The first LEGO set my (now-7-year-old) son ever loved.
We were visiting my brother when he was 4, and my brother had just acquired these and pieced them together, so they were out--unlike most of his LEGO collection. The "punchers" were very popular that entire visit.
This was a fantastic set, one of the best from back then. A few of my mates got them too and we'd have knockout competitions with them. You did need an ample supply of rubber bands though, the supplied pair couldn't cut it. Not sure if mine is still complete, might have to try and dig it out!
This is a weird set. It came out shortly after I hit my dark ages, but I think I would've still loved it. I really liked the Technic figures, I still do - and these are some gorgeous colours, I'm surprised that they're this old.
I know teal made a big revival already, but dang, man. Bring back this shade of purple. You can have highlighter yellow back, please and thank you.
Incredible set. I remember wanting this bad boy as a child but it was impossible to find in stores, much less to afford. Lucky me to find it NIB for $30 a few years ago, kickstarting my collection for Cyber Slam/Competition.
As others said, it's clearly a prototype Tarakava of sorts, but in a way it's a lot more than that. The Technic figs from Cyber Slam add so much personality and reek of late 90s design. The functions in the sets have that same old punching action a lot of Technic sets relied on, but with some incredible extension to them to the point they make a nice arc when fully extended - a detail that explains the positioning of the target for the two vehicles.
Colors are sublime, beautiful teal and old purple in their prime. The builds are simple enough but still stand out from one another. I've preached it in the past, but we desperately need Lego to return to a Technic like this rather than the bland model kits of today. Functions, creativity, and oddball design do so much, it's a shame how unappreciated they remain even today. Hope to see more of this line show up in the future. I know the flagship 8482 Cybermaster made an appearance (and confused everyone with the art), but the rest of the line is really something special as well.
@Atuin said:
"the arms often fail to retract if you only use a single pair of rubber bands as implied in the instructions, and those bands tend to break"
1998? Bionicle launched in 2001, just three years later, and the black rubber bands in those sets had a serious problem. Stretch them _once_ and they’d be crumbled to dust by the end of the week. By 2002, they’d stopped producing the black rubber bands for good. Thing is, I ran across my old 1822 a couple years ago, and those bands are still in perfect shape. So sometime between 1995 and 2011, something about their production changed, and later examples were just garbage. Maybe this change happened earlier than I’d believed.
@PurpleDave said:
" @Atuin said:
"the arms often fail to retract if you only use a single pair of rubber bands as implied in the instructions, and those bands tend to break"
1998? Bionicle launched in 2001, just three years later, and the black rubber bands in those sets had a serious problem. Stretch them _once_ and they’d be crumbled to dust by the end of the week. By 2002, they’d stopped producing the black rubber bands for good. Thing is, I ran across my old 1822 a couple years ago, and those bands are still in perfect shape. So sometime between 1995 and 2011, something about their production changed, and later examples were just garbage. Maybe this change happened earlier than I’d believed."
It's not just the black ones - Life on Mars used tiny yellow ones on there grappling arms which degraded quite similarly.
Funnily, those yellow ones started as hair bands for Scala dolls in 1999.
I have to admit though that my black ones from the 1998 "Micro Technic" sets never showed any symptoms so far.
A few additional points about Competition/Cyber Slam:
It was a bit weird, that there's a second (actually more common) variant of the Teal guy out there who seems to be a cyborg himself, with mechanical left arm and leg. Some fight must have gotten a bit wrong...
I wonder why they went with the 2 completely different logos/names for EU/NA - much similar to Slizers/Throwbots. While I prefer the name "Cyber Slam" (as it sounds a bit more creative), I think the Competition logo looks much more interesting.
Speaking of Slizers, Competition also seems to be a bit of a mild precursor to it: action figures, "game" elements, sci-fi and crazy colors all are common to both. There was even a comic in some Slizers sets showing a duel between Jungle/Amazon (teal) and Energy/Electro (purple) that heavily evoked this connection.
Also noone yet mentioned the vehicle numbers (usually found on stickered 2x2 plates, all in a very similar style):
1 - Purple, 2854 Bungee Chopper
2 - Teal, 8202 Bungee Chopper
3 - Teal, 8233 Blue Thunder
4 - Teal, 8257 Cyber Strikers
5 - Teal, 8245 Robots Revenge
6 - Purple, 8257 Cyber Strikers
9 - Teal, 8266 Spider Slayer
11 - Purple, 8266 Spider Slayer
This leaves three missing numbers (7, 8, 10) and 2 unnumbered purple vehicles (8233, 8245).
Unfortunately the concept was dropped for the two 1999 releases.
Additonally, the characters had different (more generic) names in Europe:
Nick Stryker: "Champ Gladiator"
Sam Cyborg: "Cyber Gladiator"
Still have this and the box! Clearly remember that I felt I was a little too old for LEGO when I bought it (silly me) but I just had to have it!
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@Atuin said:
"It's not just the black ones - Life on Mars used tiny yellow ones on there grappling arms which degraded quite similarly.
Funnily, those yellow ones started as hair bands for Scala dolls in 1999.
I have to admit though that my black ones from the 1998 "Micro Technic" sets never showed any symptoms so far."
I forgot black wasn't the only color, but color wouldn't matter in this instance. There are two basic types of rubber band that they've produced. The black ones are extruded and cut from the ends of a tube, and have a rectangular cross-section. The Technic bands are molded as they come in sets, with a circular cross-section. It's the extruded bands that had all the problems, while the molded Technic bands only fail due to extreme wear or if you exceed their elastic limit (which takes some effort). Technic bands are made out of a different material, which is less elastic than the extruded bands (so they're not really interchangeable), but it's also not susceptible to whatever went wrong with the extruded bands. I have no idea if they left out a chemical or skipped a process (like maybe vulcanization), or if they added something that reacted badly with the rubber, but for sure someone botched the bands from 2001, where the 1995 bands were fine. That's something they should have just been able to fix, but instead they eliminated them from the parts palette entirely, and I'm still curious why. But it's been nearly a quarter century at this point, and I'm not holding my breath for answers.
The only Competition set I have; got it in a lot when getting parts for Lego League. Of course, like others have shared here, it brings comparisons to the Rahi sets of 2001, which was a novelty because I believe at the time I didn't have any. I wouldn't get the Tarakava until years later as a gift, which was one of my grails due to seeing it at a random clearance store a few years after the fact as a kid and not being able to get it at the time.
Teal and old purple are a *really* nice millennium-era combination.