Vintage set of the week: Fire Engine

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Fire Engine

Fire Engine

©1971 LEGO Group

This week's vintage set is 374 Fire Engine, released during 1971. It's one of 27 LEGOLAND sets produced that year. It contains 74 pieces.

It's owned by 299 Brickset members. If you want to add it to your collection you might find it for sale at BrickLink or eBay.


22 comments on this article

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By in United States,

Currently being dispatched to take care of an engine fire.

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By in Germany,

The old 4x4 turn table (seen in the back of this model) actually had a weirdly hidden legal connection:

The little hole in the middle can accept the metal pin of one of those vintage wheels. This was shown in Ideas Book 238 from 1963. Not sure though what the purpose of this would be...

EDIT:
On aside note, if anyone finds it strange that a fire engine displays "LEGO" on top of it, research the company "Falck" :D

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By in New Zealand,

"An engine has been fired in Lego City!"

"Hey!"

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By in New Zealand,

Yum, solid blue cylinder.

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By in United States,

@Huw, something seems to have gone wrong with the category for the VSotW articles. https://brickset.com/news/category-Vintage-set says "No news articles found." Could changing the category from "Vintage Set of the Week" to "Vintage Set" have broken something? The articles are still there, you just have to use other ways to find them.

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By in United States,

@namekuji said:
"Yum, solid blue cylinder."

Light was thicker, and more opaque, in those days.

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By in Germany,

@PurpleDave said:
" @namekuji said:
"Yum, solid blue cylinder."

Light was thicker, and more opaque, in those days."


Actually, it's quite odd it took them til 1978 to finally make transparent blue parts, given how many fire/police/ambulance vehicles there already were.

AND that trans-yellow/green came some years before that.

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By in Jersey,

I wonder if this made the same impact in 1971 as 7239 did 34 years later.

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By in United Kingdom,

I think that’s the reddest fire engine I’ve ever seen

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By in Netherlands,

A fire truck actually consisiting of 75% red pieces.......good luck with that nowadays.....

Also, another one with this simple steering mechanism!

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By in Canada,

Younger me always liked it when a set had many moving parts. This set has rotating and lifting ladder, opening doors and storage, steering and a trailer. Back in the days, younger me thought this was a cool and desirable set. I had 378-1 instead - which I think is even better!

On the moving parts aspect, current me is not very different than younger me.

Edit: step one of the instructions for this set is quite impressive compared to what we have today. the whole thing built in 8 steps (9 really if we include the trailer).

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By in United States,

@HOBBES said:"Edit: step one of the instructions for this set is quite impressive compared to what we have today. the whole thing built in 8 steps (9 really if we include the trailer)."

Just took a look at those instructions and... wow. I thought the instructions of *my* youth (I was born nine years after this set came out) were a game of "spot the difference." Also, made an amusing discovery when following the link in the "Instruction" tab on the set's database page to instructabrick.com. This set isn't the only fire truck with the digit sequence 374 in its set number. The other one is 60374.

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By in United States,

@WizardOfOss said:
"A fire truck actually consisiting of 75% red pieces.......good luck with that nowadays....."

A proper American fire truck would need to be at least 75% chrome pieces.

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By in Netherlands,

@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"A fire truck actually consisiting of 75% red pieces.......good luck with that nowadays....."

A proper American fire truck would need to be at least 75% chrome pieces."


I'm affraid the Danish forgot chrome ever existed.

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By in United States,

@WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"A fire truck actually consisiting of 75% red pieces.......good luck with that nowadays....."

A proper American fire truck would need to be at least 75% chrome pieces."


I'm affraid the Danish forgot chrome ever existed."


Except for that one chrome piece that they have been unable to destroy...

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By in United States,

@Norikins said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"A fire truck actually consisiting of 75% red pieces.......good luck with that nowadays....."

A proper American fire truck would need to be at least 75% chrome pieces."


I'm affraid the Danish forgot chrome ever existed."


Except for that one chrome piece that they have been unable to destroy..."


Funny thing is, if you order it on OPAB, it's not listed as being a chrome element even though that's exactly what you'd get. They rolled it in with some other gold color that's still in production.

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By in United States,

@PurpleDave said:
" @Norikins said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"A fire truck actually consisiting of 75% red pieces.......good luck with that nowadays....."

A proper American fire truck would need to be at least 75% chrome pieces."


I'm affraid the Danish forgot chrome ever existed."


Except for that one chrome piece that they have been unable to destroy..."


Funny thing is, if you order it on OPAB, it's not listed as being a chrome element even though that's exactly what you'd get. They rolled it in with some other gold color that's still in production."


Yeah, I ordered one a while back, and looking at the entry, I was like, "That's not actually what color that piece is, guys." But I do understand why they did it.

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By in United States,

@TheOtherMike said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Norikins said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"A fire truck actually consisiting of 75% red pieces.......good luck with that nowadays....."

A proper American fire truck would need to be at least 75% chrome pieces."


I'm affraid the Danish forgot chrome ever existed."


Except for that one chrome piece that they have been unable to destroy..."


Funny thing is, if you order it on OPAB, it's not listed as being a chrome element even though that's exactly what you'd get. They rolled it in with some other gold color that's still in production."


Yeah, I ordered one a while back, and looking at the entry, I was like, "That's not actually what color that piece is, guys." But I do understand why they did it."


I request an explanation of the reference.

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By in United States,

@Andrusi said:
"I request an explanation of the reference."

It refers to the One Ring, of course.

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By in United Kingdom,

@Andrusi said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Norikins said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"A fire truck actually consisiting of 75% red pieces.......good luck with that nowadays....."

A proper American fire truck would need to be at least 75% chrome pieces."


I'm affraid the Danish forgot chrome ever existed."


Except for that one chrome piece that they have been unable to destroy..."


Funny thing is, if you order it on OPAB, it's not listed as being a chrome element even though that's exactly what you'd get. They rolled it in with some other gold color that's still in production."


Yeah, I ordered one a while back, and looking at the entry, I was like, "That's not actually what color that piece is, guys." But I do understand why they did it."


I request an explanation of the reference."


Ash nazg durbatulûk,
Ash nazg gimbatul…

https://brickset.com/parts/6009771/ring-%C3%B8-7-5-no-1

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By in United States,

@Atuin said:
"The old 4x4 turn table (seen in the back of this model) actually had a weirdly hidden legal connection:

The little hole in the middle can accept the metal pin of one of those vintage wheels. This was shown in Ideas Book 238 from 1963. Not sure though what the purpose of this would be...

EDIT:
On aside note, if anyone finds it strange that a fire engine displays "LEGO" on top of it, research the company "Falck" :D"


Is it because LEGO is a major shareholder of Falck?

Never seen them in my neck of the woods, but I understand they're making huge inroads into the US by buying out several private ambulance services.

They also provide a massive chunk of fire protection, EMS, and even roadside assistance/towing worldwide.

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By in United States,

@Andrusi said:
"I request an explanation of the reference."

Short answer is that The One Ring is still only produced in gold chrome. Long answer is…complicated.

The One Ring was only designed to be gold chrome. There’s never been a mold to make non-chrome versions (at least not that we know of), and chrome parts need special molds that produce parts that will be the correct dimensions _after_ the chrome layer is added. Drum-lacquered parts also need this, but I don’t know if the difference for chrome is the same as the difference for paint. So either they need to make a non-chrome mold, or they have to chrome every One Ring that comes off the current mold.

The One Ring mold is even designed to make the chroming process as efficient as possible, with parts formed on ejected runners that only get separated from the parts after they’re chromed (the gate mark is always bare plastic), If they were to make non-chromed versions that aren’t drum-lacquered, they’d probably need to completely redesign the mold to use hot runners so only the finished parts are ejected, like the vast majority of non-tire elements.

They also have a limit on the number of colors they’re allowed to keep in active production. Add one new color, and it means another one needs to be retired. Chrome and gold chrome were both kicked off the list to make room for other colors, so right there it’s not worth calling the ring Gold Chrome if it means, say, trans-bright-green isn’t allowed to exist. And if you keep gold chrome on the list, then everyone is going to want to use it at some point (which means redundant molds, which is a thing they’re trying to get away from). But you have to call it something, and that something has to be an active color or you’ve just transferred the problem rather than solving it.

So I think it got labeled as if it was gold drum-lacquered, which would remind people that a finish treatment still needs to be added. It still only has The One Mold, so they’ve sidestepped that problem. It’s sold as a color they still produce, so they’ve cheated their way past that problem. It still has to be chromed, which is a lot more involved than drum-lacquering (a minimum of four different surface applications is likely required, versus one or two). And chrome-plating plastic is still expensive, but only in the act of pushing the button. The One Ring is so tiny that each plating step can produce a metric crapton of One Rings, so the cost relative to the output is fairly miniscule compared to, say, plating a 16x16 plate.

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