First 2026 Ideas review period has ended: 97 projects qualify
Posted by Huw,It was remiss of me not to mention until now that the first LEGO Ideas review period of the year came to an end last week, during which 97 projects accrued the requisite 10,000 supporters.
As usual there are some that have no hope, some that have already been made into sets or are too similar to existing product lines, and some that everyone wishes will succeed but almost certainly won't (Studio Ghibli related ones, for example).
Take a look at the selection after the break then let us know which ones you are rooting for.
Apologies for the fact that the titles are underneath the images: I cut and pasted it all from the LEGO Ideas blog and that's how they formatted it this time, for some reason.
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater by ArcadeBricker
Chinese Miracle Box - "Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir" by Munzel
Johan Cruijff ArenA, Amsterdam Soccer Stadium by 2StudsArne
The Inventor's Mansion by Takesz
?? the Stegosaurus Skeleton Exhibition by Airbricks95
Modular Pirate Map by George Brickman
Hydroponic Collection by MagicBrick
Terrarium Collection - Miniature Ecosystems by MagicBrick
Architecture: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania by Chris74
?? Playstation 1 by Airbricks95
One Direction - Wembley Stadium by Josh Bricks
Chinese Folding Screen by Larry_land1
Majisto Board Game by Juanjobricks
Classic Telephone by Brick Dangerous
Pink Lily Arrangement – LEGO Botanical Display by DynxDesigns
Chinese Cork Carving Art by GenericBrix
Buffy the Vampire Slayer by Martin_Studio
Four Seasons (Of Life) by bart_afol
Tulip Field Windmill by HisBrickMaterials
Castle Dracula byIyan ha
Claude Monet's Water Lilies by Larry_land1
Gravity Falls: The Mystery Shack by On The Brickside
Mount Olympus & the Underworld- A Greek Mythology Microscale Diorama by Tobnacs_Bricks
Twenty Øne Pilots: Stressed Øut by BennyLikesSpacebricks
Studio Ghibli - 40th Anniversary by UAKhan
Beetlejuice (1988) - Maitland/Deetz House by BRICK PROJECT
Boombox Stereo by GenericBrix
The LEGO Separator – Large-Scale Tribute by BrickAviator
My Neighbor Totoro - Studio Ghibli 40th Anniversary Tribute by On The Brickside
The Ornate Hourglass by Noble Studs
The Scream by Edvard Munch by QYOUK
Journal of John Winchester by SamSamSamy
Little Shop of Horrors - Mushnik's Flower Shop by PoisonBricks
The Light Box by Woligan
Little Chef by Big Brick Builder
Tomodachi Life Essentials by SpinyRat
Motorized Steampunk Submarine by Liam Paradise
Bear - The Largest Land Predator - Statue by bart_afol
Frankenstein Manor: Monsters Unchained! by patcdogg
Shakespeare's Globe by SJs Workshop
The Loneliness of the Voyager - NASA's Voyager Mission 50th Anniversary by CuteHackler036
Interstellar by Minibrick41587
CHARMED - Halliwell Manor and the Book of Shadows by Santheg
My Neighbor Totoro by TrumanBricks
Anfield Stadium - Liverpool FC by RDDR_YNWA
The 5th Element - Korben Dallas Taxi by MarinBrickDesign
Bookend Towers by Kunu1990
Bearded Vulture (Gypaetus Barbatus) by Jacker76
Emirates Stadium – Arsenal F.C. by PetaS
Windmill House by BOI_Design
Locomotive: New York Central #5405 by Olivier312
Muppet Theatre: The Complete Playset by LEE40
Make It Move Inventor Kit by TheBrickConsultant
Lighted Little Library by Fr_An
How I Met Your Mother by H1GHDEF1N1T1ON
Diorama of the Great Sphinx of Giza by Xam81
Regular Show: The Park House by OrangeJus
Interstellar by Minibrick41587
Kaamelott, the Quest of the Holy Grail by Lincoln SixBricks
Steve Irwin, the Crocodile Hunter by kingCRAGGERcroc
LEGO Rainforest Frogs by Buds 234
LNER Class A1 'Flying Scotsman' by InterBrick
Chihiro & No-Face (Piggy Bank) by NasqBrick
Schitt’s Creek: Rosebud Motel by Rosedew Bricks
Tekeshi Townhouse by ModularManiac
La Belle Ruelle by Santheg
Pusheen With Pizza by WidmowySeniorChokun
Makoto Markets by ModularManiac
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice! by Brick Built Labs
Rocket League Playset by 67c3D
Clue by brickbrickey
Peashooter by DistinguishedCrow
Nikon Camera by Jerboa
Full House by obiblock
Fuzzy Bumble Bee by TaipanTheSnake
Flamingo & Seagull by derWalfisch
EXCITEBIKE Arcade by ArcadeBricker
Roman Town by MoldyBubble045
The Polar Express by EMRE_04
Kingdom Hearts - Hollow Bastion by Twilight Brix
Thomas the Tank Engine by LilyMakesThings
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1987 by TrumanBricks
Motorized Beating Heart by Anatomical_Brick
Black Lotus by Jugles
Aircraft Engine Workshop. Mini Fig. Scale & Working by Stephanix
Cuphead by Vaicko
ITALIA - 3D Poster by 7.studs
Kim Possible by teljesnegyzet
The Sign of ILY by Bricks.JulieCoyer
Vintage Billiards Table by Golden Eye
Taylor Swift: The Folklore Cottage (Taylor's Version) by GHOSTFACE93
Pioneering: The Vintage Film Camera by Shawshank
LNER A4 Class Mallard No. 4468 'Recordbreaker' Steam Train by Stumbledonthebrick
LEGO Monopoly by Master_Brickz
Mr. Bean’s Most Famous Mini by teo10_05
Bring Back the Retro Hype : Vinyl! by brickmotionID
Hunters Hut by villa_brick_7
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I'm sorry to say (based on past reviews) that Thomas the Tank Engine & Gravity Falls have a 0.0% chance of becoming sets.... much to my chagrin, as I would pay SO MUCH MONEY to get those both officially.
Whatever
Lego!!
Give us Lego Gravity Falls, And my Money will be yours!!!
I like the horror projects, but a Universal Monsters partnership is likely required for the Frankenstein mansion to be made, at least if the Bride is to be included. LEGO has had that license, but only used it for a single BrickHead, so not sure if they'd get back with that franchise. I'd absolutely love official Universal Monsters minifigures.
Several of these are MOCs that would not make viable market products. A giant brick separator? An ILY sign sign? Cute builds. Not widely sellable. A vote of support should mean "I'd buy this", not just "hey, this build is cool."
Stressed Out and 1D are past the zeitgeist by about ten years and I'm not sure they're nostalgic enough. Not sure how that got 10k today.
I fully expect The Scream is in LEGO's in-house Art pipeline already, so it will not be made through IDEAS.
A Beetlejuice project would be fun, if only for a shot at a better version of the Dimensions figure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the wedding suit instead, regardless of which project was picked.
Pretty much done with this theme.
I like the bookends, but I can make my own and make it so theme swaps are easy.
Black Lotus is cool and would be hard to recreate from my own collection, so that'd be a potential buy, but I have no idea what IP rights would do to the cost of it. But it'd be a very nerdy thing to have in my gaming room.
A lot of these I see not being produced simply for being similar to stuff Lego produces (Terrariums and Hydroponics seem to similar to Botanicals), already produced (music videos and sitcoms) or for not passing prior reviews (Gravity Falls, Ghibli).
So ruling those out, not a lot here that interests me. I like the folding screens and the Chinese cork carving. Long shot, but Kingdom Hearts would be amazing to see.
@Kalhiki said:
"A lot of these I see not being produced simply for being similar to stuff Lego produces (Terrariums and Hydroponics seem to similar to Botanicals), already produced (music videos and sitcoms) or for not passing prior reviews (Gravity Falls, Ghibli).
So ruling those out, not a lot here that interests me. I like the folding screens and the Chinese cork carving. Long shot, but Kingdom Hearts would be amazing to see."
Yeah, a lot of these are very obviously chasing perceived trends in the Lego product line. Lego made a Project Hail Mary set, so here's an Interstellar set!
I hope that almost one of Miyazaki's will make it through. Totoro waiting for the cat bus would be an instant buy for me.
Totoro as a minifig will be nice. I’m not sure having a brick built Totoro is such a good idea. Besides, I already have lots of Totoro merch and plushies. A Lego minifig with a minifig-scale display will be a great addition.
I actually really like the Miraculous Miracle Box! I think that it would be really cool to do that and have two Minifigs (or dolls) for Ladybug and Chat Noir!
I could see myself buying the Tulip Field Windmill and the Motorized Steampunk Submarine if they were made into sets. I also like the Japanese-style modular buildings, but I highly doubt they'll pass review.
I might be up for a Buffy library. The Excitebike set may also be of interest. Final judgement upon seeing product if either of these ever get made
Crazy that Minibrick got 2 interstellar projects to 10k in one review. I would love to get either one, Although I would prefer the Ranger ship for a smaller mini figure scale build. The Endurance though would be a fantastic display piece. Given how many times interstellar gets into Ideas I hope they finally take the hint with this review.
Lots of potential here, but if any of the past LEGO Ideas submissions are anything to go off of, it'll probably be a $200+ dollhouse from Beetlejuice, brick-built Monopoly or pool, and an oriental-oriented set (The folding screen and cork carving are exceptionally beautiful).
In terms of non-IP, I really like the bear model, beating heart, camera, windmill, and Camelot sets, and I'd be an absolute sucker for Gravity Falls, Studio Ghibli - 40th Anniversary, and (especially) Interstellar. I'd also like the Mr. Bean set to be made, if only to have an Ideas set that costs less than $20.
I'm also surprised that Little Shop of Horrors is allowed, given the sexual assault/grisly dismemberment in the movie.
Cool selection!
There's some interesting (and not so interesting) stuff here. The highs feel pretty high but the lows are low here.
I would give Lego all my money for that Monopoly, if only for the silver chrome top hat, as well as the Hunters lodge.
I like the Flying Scotsman and Mallard
The beating heart! Oh my. Disconcerting.
PS1 would be awesome. It could lead up to a collection of retro game consoles. They already released the Gameboy
There are quite a few that I would like:
1) Inventor's Mansion
2) Steampunk submarine
3) There are a few train/locomotive; any one will do (except Thomas the tank engine)
4) Interstellar
Kim Possible is really well done. Unfortunately, I do not have much of an interest in the subject.
Pumping heart is borderline scary but reasonably accurate (considering the medium). Would be good for a biology/medicine class.
Spoiler: since Lego never select what I'd like to have, forget about having any of those choices. Sorry!
I like a fair few of the licensed ones (and unlicensed), and would happily buy a Thomas, Polar Express, Interstellar, Gravity Falls, or HIMYM set, but more than likely those get skipped in favor of something else, unfortunately.
Ones that grabbed my eye that I think have a shot, but wouldn’t buy:
Chinese Cork Carving
Hourglass
The TMNT and Gravity Falls sets are great (I think the TMNT one would be improved in the end) and I’d love to get, but am skeptical. Lego has passed on projects repeatedly before randomly approving the same concept - hopefully Gravity Falls is at that point.
The beating heart is really unique, but probably too niche. I love the bear too, but a similar wolf was passed up previously iirc.
The cameras are really good, very skillfully done.
I like the Halliwell manor, I would love that to get through.
The modulars are really clever too.
The light box is good, along with a lot of the art pieces, which I'm surprised got the votes.
As usual, what wins will be anyone's guess and I doubt it will be something good.
I am so tired of minifig-scale IP dollhouses.
I do like the idea behind tony hawk and excite bike.
I like the non-Thomas trains, and I would get Excitebike for sure.
A lot of strange options though, that I just can't see Lego doing. Or at least, not in any way close to what is shown. Like Monopoly, featuring either 500 stickers or printed parts. Similar with the One Direction, half the set is just two giant stickers. The antique phone is also odd, it's extremely unlikely that Lego will bring back chrome plated gold, so why design the set with so much of it?
Both of those arcade machines are impressive, those functions are so cool. Looks like same designer too, talented guy!
I'm so terrible at predicting what will make it through. Not a lot interests me on this one, although Interstellar would be pretty neat.
@GmngFntx said:
"PS1 would be awesome. It could lead up to a collection of retro game consoles. They already released the Gameboy"
Well, Lego has already done the NES 71374-1 and Atari 10306-1. PS1 is apparently in the making and should be announced fairly soon - Sega Genesis/Megadrive 40926-1 was announced recently. As for arcade games, Pacman 10323-1 and arcade machine 40805-1 are still available. On the portable console, only the Gameboy 72046-1 was made (and still available) so far.
I'm a big fan of the trains so I hope they win. Unfortunately, they probably won't. The books or scenic displays will probably win yet again...
Lots of trains, I want them all.
Pls more original sets and less licensed ones (though I do want that TMNT one)
ALL THE NATURE SETS!!
Love the marimo lollll
Also the bearded vulture is so cool
I mean no disrespect to the designer, but who on earth votes for "Bear: the largest land predator"? What is the market for that?
I am however heartened by the number of trains here. Even if none get commissioned, surely it highlights that there's demand? They all look brilliant, but the Mallard surely is the best.
Maybe it’s time for Lego to increase the vote threshold for qualification, as many of these are just a waste of time.
Few neat ones for sure, but mostly just nonsensical or too far off.
Such a long list of projects! And all but a few shall be discarded, but rightfully so: so many are redundant, overused, or unrealistic ideas. I feel like people must be submitting Botanicals projects just so, when LEGO inevitably makes their own versions, the project creators can scream "they stole my idea!"
At least this round there are several original, non-licensed concepts that are pretty good:
Chinese Folding Screen
Chinese Cork Carving
Four Seasons (of Life)
The Ornate Hourglass
Motorized Steampunk Submarine
Tulip Windmill is nice, but unfortunately there had to be another windmill in the review, so that's out
Majisto Board Game also might've stood a chance if there weren't other board games in this review
Rainforest Frogs are close to the Icons Fauna subtheme, but I still like them
A Steve Irwin set would be cool, but this project is pretty meh
The trains are all great, but we know LEGO hates trains so none of those are passing.
Nothing all that great on the licensed side of things; just more bland and repetitive ideas. I'm biased, so Voyager and both Interstellar projects have my interest, but I don't see any of them making it, sadly. Peashooter looks good. I can't remember what game/show it's from, but still. I also like Excitebike, but I don't think its similarity to the other arcade machine sets will help it. Also I wouldn't buy it.
Overall, more interesting original stuff than usual, but still nothing all that special. Can't wait for LEGO to only pick How I Met Your Mother!
So many of these would be day one buys, but knowing Lego nowadays they'll just pick the retro phone and have it warm shelves until it retires.
Most of these are meh at best.
Hey Lego, just give us a Mystery Shack set and people will stop submitting them. It's a win-win!
Interstellar Ranger
Interstellar Endurance
Totoro at the bus stop
Voyager
Thomas the Tank Engine
Mallard train
Shakespeare's Globe
Only Mallard train interests me, although if they do make it, would be great to have additional tiles to convert to Sir Nigel Gresley 4498
They might as well change the name to IPEAS, because 90% of time they will pick a new license to milk the fanbase.
Fifth Mystery shack that will be pushed off xD
I'm not into skate boarding but that Tony Hawk set is very ingenius and looks like fun.
Still amazes me how many projects get to this point of passing the 10,000 votes when i thought it was in the Ideas submission rules that you can't have projects based on current themes?
The large number of sets that would get grouped under Botanicals now, the PS1 console when we've had the SNES and Mega Drive, Dino Skeleton, the Artworks... you think LEGO would weed them out as being inelligable before now.
That said, I do hope we finally get a Studio Ghibli set approved given that yet again, even more projects from this wide theme have passed this stage.
There are a few interesting sets here, but I have to say Bricklink designer program is starting to look way better than lego Ideas. Maybe the program is hitting some fatigue or they need to raise their 10k threshold up higher. 97 sets is a bit insane for the judges to get through. Will be interesting to see which 1 they pick.
I’m guessing one or two will be elected.
John LEGO will probably commission a grand one Ghibli set, but only so he can livestream eating it to crush everyone's dreams
@alLEGOry_HJB2810 said:
"ALL THE NATURE SETS!!
Love the marimo lollll
Also the bearded vulture is so cool"
+1 for me @ Vulture as well.
I see a lot of fantastic builds, but not a lot of potential sets.
I don't see any trains making it due to the recency of the Orient Express, though they are amongst the best submissions (NY Central, Mallard, Flying Scotsman).
Few of the submissions based on IPs particularly interest me, but the Tony Hawk submission looks well executed and fun. Dracula and Frankenstein would be ones I would consider buying. And no, I'm not interested in anything Studio Ghibli.
Nice to see the Globe Theatre, I had that idea years ago, but never followed through.
The more original art sets are intriguing. The ones based on existing art, not so much.
And as well done as most of the botanicals are, I can't see that happening.
well done to all the very clever designers. I'm impressed.
Some of these are so good looking! I know I will be disappointed by what Lego eventually chooses, but congrats on the designers for getting this far.
it's really embarrassing that the Stegosaurus skeleton seems to be based on the AI-generated fakes clogging Google images, T. rex skull and all
Interstellar and that's it.
Crossing my fingers for Gravity Falls (hopelessly, I know) and Mr Bean; I also find the hourglass particularly interesting; it would be nice to get it with the kind of pellets that TLG uses for molding the bricks, but I doubt it's realistic.
Love the Flying Scotsman and Mallard entries, and both of the Interstellar ones.
I'd don't think they'll happen though...
If I had to pick one, it would be the Mallard entry, mostly for the dynamometer carriage!
Several ideas that I'd be very interested to see progress further (Mallard, Flying Scotsman, Shakespeare's Globe, Bear, Ornate Hourglass, Tulip Field Windmill to name but a few)
Also pleased to see stadiums still making the list. Although I have no interest in the current selection I like to think that the original Wembley twin towers might make it one day!
Nearly a hundred projects, but of course, LEGO will only make like 3 of them…
I REALLY want the Mystery Shack! That entry is so amazing.
I would really enjoy the Vintage Billiards Table and The Flying Scotsman. A lot of wonderful looking train models in this group.
Maybe the Muppet Theater?
I'd love a good rendition of the Globe Theater
What is going on with that Stegosaurus skeleton?? completely the wrong shape and the head is 4 times the size it ought to be. Also I have to echo the complaints of "no ideas from currently running themes" being not followed here when LEGO already sells many plants, dinosaur skeletons, famous paintings, tried microscale football stadiums 5 years ago and learned they didn't sell...
I would be tempted by the pirate map, the folding screen, the cork carving, Mt. Olympus, or the Voyager, but ultimately probably wouldn’t buy any of them. I’d be sorely tempted by either Interstellar project. I’d really like an Allyson Hannigan minifig, but would much prefer HIMYM to anything tainted by the name of Joss Whedon, while I know that Buffy is probably the more marketable option. I would make a solid effort to buy either Beetlejuice house (even though I still haven’t sprung for the Nightmare Before Christmas behemoth). And I’d love an Muppets Theatre (and be-suited Gonzo), but a member of my own LUG has already had his version get rejected. Ultimately, though, once you weed out all the obvious and likely rejections, the one I’d absolutely be guaranteed to buy is the frogs.
@Murdoch17 said:
"I'm sorry to say (based on past reviews) that Thomas the Tank Engine & Gravity Falls have a 0.0% chance of becoming sets.... much to my chagrin, as I would pay SO MUCH MONEY to get those both officially."
Good news! You already can get official LEGO Thomas & Friends sets! And all it will cost you is SO MUCH MONEY!
https://brickset.com/sets/subtheme-Thomas-Friends
Also, it’s all Duplo. Target market, and all that.
@dimc said:
"Black Lotus is cool and would be hard to recreate from my own collection, so that'd be a potential buy, but I have no idea what IP rights would do to the cost of it. But it'd be a very nerdy thing to have in my gaming room. "
Is that for sure an M:TG Black Lotus? The flower looked familiar, but that’s not hard. It’s a lotus bloom that’s black. I don’t remember a skeletal hand being in the original Alpha card art, though. I actually own a Black Lotus card. Not one of the insanely expensive ones, mind you. When the first Collector’s Edition released, power hungry Mr. Suitcases everywhere snatched them up, only to find square-cut corners, gold-bordered card backs, and a bit of text below the logo that said Collector’s Edition (translated into English, it means “Not Tournament Legal). One Mr. Suitcase happened to run the IT department at my college, and was only too happy to unload that dud of a purchase on me for $90. All my friends who played told me I got ripped off. I recently saw complete CE sets can sell for several thousand dollars.
@JDawg5 said:
"Yeah, a lot of these are very obviously chasing perceived trends in the Lego product line. Lego made a Project Hail Mary set, so here's an Interstellar set!"
I could easily see the Interstellar submissions predating the release of P:HM and the announcement of the tie-in set. Interstellar was both a critical darling and a blockbuster film. One of the local theaters even had an Interstellar subscription program, where you paid a monthly fee and could come watch _that_ movie as often as you liked. I’d happily take a set of the little skiff.
@supervir2:
@Crushmaster:
The bad news is TMNT will be auto-rejected because they just got the license back and released a Brickheadz set this year. The good news is, they got the license back and can absolutely make more minifig-based sets with it regardless.
@GrizBe:
They clarified with a Shaun of the Dead submission many years ago that certain subject matter (in that case, The Winchester is a pub) would never get approved, and would automatically be rejected before it hit 10k. But in the case of a theme that’s current, if the last extant set retires, and no new sets are announced, that IP does eventually fall off the restricted list. Just as someone can slowly work from zero to 10k votes just in time to see an unrelated set from that same IP announced, someone could feasibly reach that point only to see the IP become newly eligible. If they auto-reject the project now, there’s no way to know if it would still be intelligible when it actually cleared 10k and went to review. Plus, 10k Club still confers bragging rights.
Please raise the threshold.
Steve Irwin should be holding up baby Robert.
Threshold is fine.
More options is always better for the consumer.
Interstellar would be a Day 1 for me.
Ideas has very few limits, leans more to the masses, and is a great option for LEGO to explore one off, older IPs and unique entries like the vulture. BDP might have more design/piece constraints but is really tailored to us AFOLs.
I love both themes and greatly look forward to each quarter’s reviews. I only wish BDP released more stinkers. :o)
@PurpleDave said:
" @Murdoch17 said:
"I'm sorry to say (based on past reviews) that Thomas the Tank Engine & Gravity Falls have a 0.0% chance of becoming sets.... much to my chagrin, as I would pay SO MUCH MONEY to get those both officially."
Good news! You already can get official LEGO Thomas & Friends sets! And all it will cost you is SO MUCH MONEY!
https://brickset.com/sets/subtheme-Thomas-Friends
Also, it’s all Duplo. Target market, and all that."
I would be lying if i said I hadn't bought some of those when they were out as a teenager, just to try and make them work on LEGO track, at which I failed. I would also be lying if I said I still had them.
Also, Thomas and Friends model series episodes / The Railway Series books have a thriving teen and adult fandom that is practically untapped in toys and such. I myself have made a crud ton of custom rolling stock and engine MOCs, but would die happy if they had the official nod of approval as sets from Mattel via LEGO... and I'm not alone! Heck, the release of the Pilot episode of the TV show on YouTube by Mattel was much celebrated by even mainstream media / train sites during the 80th Anniversary of The Railway Series last year.
Why can't I post my way too long reaction on all submissions? because it's way too long I guess? Glad I still had the whole text in Notepad++....
* Tony Hawk's Pro Skater: Pretty awesome! Cool, original idea, and seems well executed!
* Chinese Miracle Box: Looks nice, but looking at the piece count, who's gonna pay around 200 bucks for this?
* Johan Cruijff ArenA: Not an Idea, and considering the other stadiums sold so well (not), zero chance.
* The Inventor's Mansion: Very cool, but again, who's gonna pay €500 for this?
* Stegosaurus Skeleton: Oh yes, a big dino skeleton,. Why has Lego never thought of that before?
* Modular Pirate Map: I do really like the idea! Lot's of tiny pieces, no minifigs, no prints, so maybe the price wouldn't be unreasonable?
* Hydroponic Collection & Terrarium Collection: Maybe Lego should consider a Botanicals theme?
* Architecture: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania: Looks very nice, and distinctly different from the Skyline sets. But does anyone not from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania car that much about Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania?
* Playstation 1: A yes, a game console from Lego, how original?
* One Direction: Didn't they break up long time ago? Though guess the screaming girls from back in the day now have jobs an can afford to buy this.
* Chinese Folding Screen: Another case of I do like it, but expect it to be way more expensive than I would ever want to pay for it.
* Majisto Board Game: Not famailiar with the game so can't comment on that, but looks like a chore to build.
* Classic Telephone: Nice, but done many times by alternate brands. Also, every submission showing shiny gold or silver should be disqualified by default.
* Pink Lily Arrangement: Do I need to say anything?
* Chinese Cork Carving Art: Now that is a cool display! And not a crazy piece count, so actually seems like a realistic option.
* Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Not very original, but an IP I can see being quite popular. That said, this particular submission looks rather boring.
* Four Seasons (Of Life): O yes, great concept, done well. Another realistic candidate.
* Tulip Fields Windmill: Maybe it's because I look at it with Dutch eyes, but the proportions of this look way off.
* Castle Dracula: Jay, a castle! Straight to BDP.
* Claude Monet's Water Lilies: Another Monet Art set? Unlikely.
* Gravity Falls: Will be rejected just like the dozens that came before.
* Mount Olympus & the Underworld: I do really like the concept, but at over 3600 pieces, this would be way too expensive.
* Twenty Øne Pilots: A bit too late I guess? Aren't they long forgotten by now?
* Studio Ghibli - 40th Anniversary: As much as I would love to see a Studio Ghibli set, this is not it.
* Beetlejuice: Why do I suddenly have a feeling of deja vu?
* Boombox Stereo: Nice, but it's not the Sharp GF-777.....
* The LEGO Separator: Haha, love it! I do worry this would end up way too pricey, but cool idea!
* My Neighbor Totoro: Not the greatest version of this scene, but still would love to see this get picked. I will get disappointed once again.
* The Ornate Hourglass: It's okay I guess, but seems like Lego studs don't quite work like sand.
* The Scream by Edvard Munch: I feel we've seen much better versions of this?
* Journal of John Winchester: I have absolutely no clue what this is about. Looks like a a lot of pieces for a book with rather little content.
* Little Shop of Horrors: Not familiar enough with this to judge the accuracy, but it looks quite good.
* The Light Box: Really neat idea, but how many pieces does this use? I expect this to become way more expensive than I would ever be willing to pay for it.
* Little Chef: I do like the concept, but needs a LOT of work.
* Tomodachi Life Essentials: No clue what this is about, but it looks very boring.
* Motorized Steampunk Submarine: I do like this, but seems more likely for BDP.
* Bear - The Largest Land Predator: Again do really like what I see, but seems like a lot of pieces....
* Frankenstein Manor: Monsters Unchained!: Difficult one. I could see Lego do a Frankenstein set, but this big?
* Shakespeare's Globe: Another case of very nice but way too big.
* The Loneliness of the Voyager: Take my money!
* Interstellar: Too late, too similar to Hail Mary?
* Charmed: I had already forgotten about Charmed....
* My Neighbor Totoro: Would love a Catbus, but this again needs a LOT of work. Not that Lego would pick it anyway....
* Anfield Stadium: And another stadium. That for most people would look way too similar to Old Trafford.
* The 5th Element: Oh yeah, great one!
* Bookend Towers: We've had so many more interesting bookends before.
* Bearded Vulture: Even when big lego birds aren't new, this seems done very well.
* Emirates Stadium: And one more....
* Windmill House: Another windmill my Dutch eyes have some issues with.
* Locomotive: New York Central 5405: Cool, but detail seems lacking. And I can think of several much more iconic American steam locomotives.
* Muppet Theatre: Not for me, but I can see an audience for this.
* Make It Move Inventor Kit: Haven't we ssen this before? I do still really love it though!
* Lighted Little Library: Nice idea, but looks like not the most interesting build.
* How I Met Your Mother: Somehow only know this by name. But looks like just another uninspired sitcom set to me.
* Diorama of the Great Sphinx of Giza: Some things better remain just a nice looking MOC.
* Regular Show: The Park House: Ehhhhh? Have I lived under a rock if I have never even heared of this? Is this popular enough for a €300 set?
* Interstellar: For once a decently sized set!
* Kaamelott, the Quest of the Holy Grail: Let's not go there. It is a silly place.
* Steve Irwin, the Crocodile Hunter: I like it! But do spot a severe lack of stingray.
* LEGO Rainforest Frogs: Not feeling it.
* LNER Class A1 'Flying Scotsman': Cool! But Lego smoke. Don't breath it!
* Chihiro & No-Face (Piggy Bank): No-Face is cool, but is that really supposed to be Chihiro? Doesn't matter, is Ghibli, so will be rejected.
* Schitt’s Creek: Rosebud Motel: No clue.
* Tekeshi Townhouse: Looks great, straight to BDP.
* La Belle Ruelle: See above. Though not quite as great.
* Pusheen With Pizza: Euhhhhhhhhhh.....
* Makoto Markets: BDP again.
* Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice: See somewhere up here.
* Rocket League Playset: Must be missing something here...
* Clue: Where's the Do?
* Peashooter: Funny.
* Nikon Camera: Looks nice, and I've always been a Nikon fan. But 31147 is good enough for me.
* Full House: A Lego sitcom set, how did no one ever think of that before?
* Fuzzy Bumble Bee: Another deja vu feeling.
* Flamingo & Seagull: 31170 says no.
* EXCITEBIKE Arcade: Also cool, but I'd prefer the Tony Hawk one.
* Roman Town: I have no comments.
* The Polar Express: One we've seen quite a few times before, but rarely this good.
* Kingdom Hearts - Hollow Bastion: I'm clearly missing context.
* Thomas the Tank Engine: He might be a steam locomotive, but he's clearly a Diesel.
* Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Wouldn't buy, but looks great!
* Motorized Beating Heart: Love the idea, don't like the execution.
* Black Lotus: ....
* Aircraft Engine Workshop: Now that is a nice one! Original idea, done pretty well!
* Cuphead: Clearly missing context again.
* ITALIA - 3D Poster: Do like the idea, but no particular interest in Italy.
* Kim Possible: One for the fans. So not me.
* The Sign of ILY: Neat idea, but would never buy.
* Vintage Billiards Table: At least this won't have the issues that plagued the Table Football submission, but still don't care.
* Taylor Swift: The Folklore Cottage: What am I looking at?
* Pioneering: The Vintage Film Camera: Live it! But what did I say earlier about shiny gold pieces?
* LNER A4 Class Mallard: Pretty good. Lego will never make it as a full train.
* LEGO Monopoly: Looks like an utterly boring build, with inevitably a gazzillion stickers.
* Mr. Bean’s Most Famous Mini: Another case of deja vu, do like it though.
* Bring Back the Retro Hype : Vinyl!: Why two? Also, 31172 and 40699...
* Hunters Hut: BDP
So all in all, my favorites would be Tony Hawk, Chinese Cork Carving, The 5th Element and Make It Move Inventor Kit. And once again so many sets that could and should have been rejected by default.
I really like the Tony Hawk or Excitebike ideas, but everything else is a pass
@WizardOfOss said:
"* Pink Lily Arrangement: Do I need to say anything?"
Yes.
"* Tulip Fields Windmill: Maybe it's because I look at it with Dutch eyes, but the proportions of this look way off."
Maybe it’s because I lived in Holland, Michigan for over a decade, but burn it! Burn it with fire!
Four seasons is lovely.
Another +3 Ghibli/Totoro Ideas submissions.
The most surprising thing this submission round is there's only 1 Gravity Falls submission, normally there's at least 2.
As usual I’m only really taken by the arty ones like the Chinese golfing screen or four seasons. The others are just a bit on the generic or repetitive side
Chinese folding screen and 4 seasons of life caught my eye, I'd happily buy either or both, but I can't work up much enthusiasm given how long the process takes now and how few sets make it through.
The Roman Town looks really well done to me; I'd certainly consider buying it.
How did the monopoly set get approved? Just a board of printed tiles (or probably stickers)
@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"* Pink Lily Arrangement: Do I need to say anything?"
Yes."
Okay then. Anything.
@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"* Tulip Fields Windmill: Maybe it's because I look at it with Dutch eyes, but the proportions of this look way off."
Maybe it’s because I lived in Holland, Michigan for over a decade, but burn it! Burn it with fire!"
Melting Lego into the right proportions. That surely is an advanced building technique!
@PeterT_AFOL said:
"How did the monopoly set get approved? Just a board of printed tiles (or probably stickers)"
Well, just needed 10,000 people who either love stickers or are naive enough to believe it could be all prints. Nothing approved yet....
@PurpleDave said:
" @GrizBe:
They clarified with a Shaun of the Dead submission many years ago that certain subject matter (in that case, The Winchester is a pub) would never get approved, and would automatically be rejected before it hit 10k. But in the case of a theme that’s current, if the last extant set retires, and no new sets are announced, that IP does eventually fall off the restricted list. Just as someone can slowly work from zero to 10k votes just in time to see an unrelated set from that same IP announced, someone could feasibly reach that point only to see the IP become newly eligible. If they auto-reject the project now, there’s no way to know if it would still be intelligible when it actually cleared 10k and went to review. Plus, 10k Club still confers bragging rights."
See, that confuses me somewhat given LEGO have later released the Tudor Corner modular which included a pub, despite them supposedly wanting to avoid 'adult themes'. They really need a more consistent policy on such things.
Fair point on the rest of things, wasn't thinking about the possible timescale with sets having to get 10k could take months... but then with Botanicals, which doesn't look like its going to go anywhere any time soon, that'd still make alot invalid.
Kim Possible is nicely done but really no need for any of these.
@PurpleDave said:
" @supervir2 :
@Crushmaster :
The bad news is TMNT will be auto-rejected because they just got the license back and released a Brickheadz set this year. The good news is, they got the license back and can absolutely make more minifig-based sets with it regardless."
While I'm sure you're right, my hope is that LEGO at least recognizes there's some interest in the original TMNT cartoon. Then, maybe, just maybe, we'll see proper minifigures for Casey Jones, Bebop and Rocksteady.
I think Rocksteady can kind of be done using one of the Chima figures, but I've never been able to achieve a Casey Jones I've been happy with, and anything resembling Bebop is just outright impossible it seems. The Monkie Kid Ironclad and Pigsy minifigures just don't really work for me.
Of course, I'd love to see the Neutrinos, rock soldiers and countless others as well, but it seems unrealistic to hope for such things.
@WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"* Tulip Fields Windmill: Maybe it's because I look at it with Dutch eyes, but the proportions of this look way off."
Maybe it’s because I lived in Holland, Michigan for over a decade, but burn it! Burn it with fire!"
Melting Lego into the right proportions. That surely is an advanced building technique!"
Oh, I wasn't referring to the windmill. I meant the Turkish dandelions. Those things caused the first stock market crash.
@Vesperas:
I made a 2003 animated Casey Jones minifig. I did have to modify a LEGO quiver and a 3rd party golf wedge to sell the look, though. I'd really prefer to see them make sets based on that show, myself, but I suspect the most likely thing is they'll wait until next year and release stuff based on the sequel to Mutant Mayhem.
Oh look, more licences and buildings....
That said, I do like the Interstellar ones even though I think the Project Hail Mary ship has put paid to another Sci Fi licence being acquired, and the Globe theatre is at least quite interesting.
The stand outs for me are the cork carving and the light box, interesting decorative builds!
@PurpleDave said:
"
@Vesperas :
I made a 2003 animated Casey Jones minifig. I did have to modify a LEGO quiver and a 3rd party golf wedge to sell the look, though. I'd really prefer to see them make sets based on that show, myself, but I suspect the most likely thing is they'll wait until next year and release stuff based on the sequel to Mutant Mayhem."
I've never seen the 2003 series but I recall you recommending it before. I'll have to look into it sometime.
The main issue I've always had is replicating his mask and hair. The 2003 Casey Jones looks to be about the same as the original though, so I'm curious what you did?
There was a beat 'em up video game called TMNT: Shredder's Revenge released a few years ago and it's been successful enough to receive additional DLC. In fact, I think a DLC came out for it very recently, so I'd like to think there's a little bit of hope for one or two TMNT sets based on the original cartoon. The game itself is based on the original cartoon and features a fairly extensive list of characters.
It includes Donatello, Leonardo, Michelangelo, Raphael, Splinter, April, Casey, Karai, Usagi, Mona Lisa and Mondo Gecko for playable characters. It also has appearances from the Neutrinos and Punk Frogs.
For enemies it has Shredder, Super Shredder, Krang, Baxter (both human and mutated), Bebop, Rocksteady, Groundchuck, Dirtbag, Rat King, Tempestra, Wingnut, Rahzar, Tokka, Leatherhead, Metalhead, Captain Zorax, General Traag, Granitor, Chrome Dome, Slash and countless others.
That said, I'm not especially partial to the original cartoon or anything. Having grown up with the cartoon, movies and video games, my own TMNT head canon is kind of all over the place. To me, the definitive Shredder is the movie Shredder / 2012 version, while April is her original cartoon / movie version (I didn't really care that much for the 2012 April). I also consider the original Bebop and Rocksteady to be primary characters, despite not even appearing in the original three movies.
What a big record.
@Murdoch17 said:
"Also, Thomas and Friends model series episodes / The Railway Series books have a thriving teen and adult fandom that is practically untapped in toys and such. I myself have made a crud ton of custom rolling stock and engine MOCs, but would die happy if they had the official nod of approval as sets from Mattel via LEGO... and I'm not alone! Heck, the release of the Pilot episode of the TV show on YouTube by Mattel was much celebrated by even mainstream media / train sites during the 80th Anniversary of The Railway Series last year."
My nostalgia is screaming out for this but yeah, I just don’t think it will happen now Mattel owns Thomas and they have their own construction brand. Maybe we could hope for a Brick Shop Thomas if their car line is successful?
There are some I like again...
If I could get one it would be Anfield - as a Liverpool fan - and the fact it's assymetry makes it more interesting than the sterile Arsenal ground...
The Steg skeleton is interesting - but I could see that already in LEGO production after T Rex & Tri skeletons..
I like the animal ones - Vulture, Bee & Frogs, also the "famous" locos the Flying Scotsman & the Mallard.
{The bear is interesting - but not sure the piece count and whether it would be cost effective}
So many beautiful designs but I don't get classic Lego vibe from most of them.
97 is way too much. I feel like at this point Lego needs to rework the ideas program.
There is simply no way a brick separator would sell as an actual set. That's gotta be the most ridiculous one I've seen.
Modulars, houses from shows/movies where the house isn't what anyone remembers, Gravity Falls, Totoro, stadiums, scenes from individual music videos, and huge sets that would have to be heavily redesigned to get them down to a price anyone would actually pay? Yep, it's an Ideas review period.
I can't remember offhand if "this specific steam locomotive" has also been a recurring thing in Ideas submissions, but it does seem notable that there are four of them. Admittedly Thomas is shooting for a different target audience than the other three, though there's probably a bit more overlap in the Flying Scotsman's case.
I'm tired, boss.
@Vesperas said:
"I've never seen the 2003 series but I recall you recommending it before. I'll have to look into it sometime."
Having just rewatched the entire 2012 series before diving into rewatching the 2003 series, I’ve started reevaluating my opinion regarding the two of them. I still like them both, but I don’t know that I can hold the 2003 series so much higher than 2012 anymore. I think part of that came from souring on the first animated series and live action film trilogy, and the 2003 series was both the first modern iteration I encountered (hence the baseline for my understanding of all TMNT canon), as well as being the first thing I ever watched that had direct involvement from one of the original co-creators. 2012 did several things that conflicted with the 2003 canon, but some of them drew more faithfully from the original comics.
I mostly prefer the 2003 character designs (Karai’s lip color is…jarring, and the human characters have more interesting outfits in 2012), but the hand animation did feel under-budgeted and clunky at times. 2012’s CGI was way more consistent in terms of quality, but the character designs sometimes looked a little goofy (I still hate that Casey is missing so many front teeth, has no false teeth, but talks normal like there’s nothing wrong with his mouth). But 2012 definitely gave April more of an active role, between Splinter training her to fight, and her special abilities.
2003 does have one major issue, which is network meddling (2012 seems pleasantly free of that). They aired I think four normal seasons, then there’s a season called Ninja Tribunal (don’t think that actually aired next, but chronologically it follows the numbered seasons). The studio wanted to court a younger audience, and the show was retooled into Flash Forward, which bombed. The final season (maybe two) is called Back to the Sewers, and then there’s a finale movie called TMNT Forever or Turtles Forever. I don’t own anything after Ninja Tribunal except the finale movie. TMNT:FF was pretty bad, and I can’t even remember what BttS was like. Part of me kinda wishes I’d bought them on DVD anyways, and part of me doesn’t want to remember why I skipped buying them in the first place.
"The main issue I've always had is replicating his mask and hair. The 2003 Casey Jones looks to be about the same as the original though, so I'm curious what you did?"
Looking at an image from our last show, it looks like plain dark-blue legs, plain dark-red torso, and black Dastan (Prince of Persia) hair. I think the head was from the IJ4 Chauchilla cemetery guards, with hands/arms to match that skin color. He’s holding a baseball bat and a hockey stick. Then I cut the arrows off a black LEGO quiver, and cut the grip off a 3rd party golf wedge, and glued the shaft of the wedge into the hollow cavity of the quiver so it looks like he’s wearing a golf bag. As boring as his outfit is in 2003, at least it was simple enough that I could make him in both minifig and Bionicle formats.
"That said, I'm not especially partial to the original cartoon or anything. Having grown up with the cartoon, movies and video games, my own TMNT head canon is kind of all over the place. To me, the definitive Shredder is the movie Shredder / 2012 version, while April is her original cartoon / movie version (I didn't really care that much for the 2012 April). I also consider the original Bebop and Rocksteady to be primary characters, despite not even appearing in the original three movies."
April is probably my favorite character from the 2012 series, but I still kinda prefer the 2003 version. Shredder changed quite a bit throughout both of those series, so they kinda blend together in my mind, and other than the occasional throwback appearance of the first animated Shredder in the 2012 series, I don’t even really remember any other versions.
Absolutely loving all of the trains. I would buy the Flying Scotsman in a heartbeat. (well as long as it can fit on Lego tracks)
Chinese Cork Carving is so next level I'm guaranteeing Lego won't make it, pure talent right there.
Time to raise the minimum votes to 100k or 1M
@TeriXeri said:
"Time to raise the minimum votes to 100k or 1M"
I 'd expect that would only lower the variety, as only IP's with massive fanbases (and social media presence) would make it then.
I'd say keep the 10k, but make the rules more strict and add a pre-judgement moment for all submissions that get to a certain point, like at 3k or so. If it''s to similar to an existing set or theme? Out. Just a rehash of an earlier (rejected) submission? Out. Existing idea just with another IP slammed on it? Out. Too similar to an earlier submission? Out. Subject matter unsuitable for Lego? Out. That way they could weed down the number of qualifying submissions significantly without creating impossible stakes.
Some of those are really nice-looking pieces... but what this says to me is that Lego Ideas needs to increase the threshold for consideration of projects, because most of these will be dismissed out of hand (and rightly-so).
Additionally (and this has been a problem for ages), Lego needs to provide better guidance on what kind of sets definitely won't be considered and then, why certain sets are rejected.
Favourites here (that aren't ruled out based on past experience, at least: I've given up on Gravity Falls or Ghibli projects at this point, as much as I enjoy them both) are definitely the Flying Scotsman and Kim Possible for me, with honourable mention to Mallard too. None of which I'd actually see myself getting even if they make it through, but each of which I like the subject matter of and am very impressed by as models.
The Four Seasons (of Life) is also a neat concept, and the Bearded Vulture looks pretty great as well.
As always, the best thing is the amazing creativity and skill of all those fan designers - most of the buildings are beautiful; that beating heart is insanely well done; the Kim Possible looks more like her than I'd ever expect using the medium of Lego; and so on.
But Lego really does need to raise the threshold. This is not a bad thing - it's a symptom of Lego's success. The consumer/fan base has grown massively over the past 5-10 years, and the social media landscape has also grown and proliferated. So it's no surprise that folks can much more easily generate 10,000 votes' worth of support than they could in the past. So raising the threshold to 20,000 (for example) would restore the balance.
Finally, this is neither a positive nor negative comment, just an observation: it seems to me that of all the 10k waves I've seen, this one by far contains the highest proportion of sets that look like they belong in the Bricklink Designer Program instead of Lego Ideas.
I do not think the threshold should be raised, and I see no benefit whatsoever in doing so — except, I suppose, to the designers responsible for assessing it and their workload. But none to us-the-people-who-buy-the-sets. All it’s likely to do is make it harder for non-IP and smaller-IP ideas and what on earth would be the improvement there? Ideas would only be a more boring theme.
There’s a few ideas I particularly like, and some of them maybe even afford! Mostly non-ip like the Folding Screen, Boombox or the Bearded Vulture, and on the IP front, the Fifth Element idea and the Plants vs Zombies one. Shakespeare’s Globe is also great and I’m always here for south-of-the-river representation.
The 3D sign in Makoto Markets is very nice, and so are the water ripples in the Flamingo idea. I would like the Inventor’s Mansion a great deal more if it wasn’t So Very Incredibly Brown. The Cork Carving Art gets away with its brownness — shades and texture go a long long way.
Before I read the name of the Beating Heart I thought something truly terrible had happened to Spider-Man.
I'm hoping beyond hope that the Gravity Falls Mystery Shack will finally see the light of day. How many review cycles does this thing need to go through to demonstrate that there's clear demand??
Regarding the 10k threshold, I think it's fine. I mean really, what difference does it make to any of us? Sure, there's now a longer list of submissions to look at, but how is that a problem? We don't have to choose between them, Lego does. The 10k is just arbitrarily there to show that an idea has at least some chance of having a reasonably sized target audience, not to select which ones will actually be made into products.
The problem for me is rather that presentation is still everything. Good looks and presentation gets the votes. It should be about the idea, the concept, not the quality of the fan design. Lego Ideas isn't for fan designs to be released, it's to find interesting concepts that could be fun _if Lego made them_. I'm sure many great ideas never make it to 10k because whoever submit them isn't skilled enough to present them well enough to get the votes. So increasing the threshold would just disqualify even more potentially great ideas.
Thinking about it now, it would probably be better to LOWER the threshold and find some other way of progressing projects towards final consideration. Like other's have mentioned, a lot of these finalists have no chance whatsoever of becoming products for various reasons, so why are they still presented as if they were in the running? Better ideas, with fewer votes due to poor presentation, could have had those spots. That would be more interesting.
IP should have a much higher threshold, and the bar for non-IP could be raised less. There are still a whole lot of non-IP builds in this round, so it seems the number of voters has increased across the board.
While I am quite sick of endless IP, Lego hasn't soured on it. It wouldn't surprise me if they now see Ideas as a valuable way to pitch new IP relationships. They may see 97 qualifiers as a feature, not a bug. Sigh.
@WizardOfOss said:
"Just a rehash of an earlier (rejected) submission? Out."
Excdept I'm pretty sure there are at least a few sets that came from projects that were just rehashes of previously rejected ideas. One major complication, at least where IP is involved, is whether the license is up for grabs at the time. If someone else has it locked up when a related project goes to review, the project is going to be rejected without prejudice. If the exact same design makes it to 10k a year later, maybe the license has expired, and the IP is open for negotiation. By this logic, they should have auto-rejected the second submission solely because of the poor timing of the first one, rather than because the concept is truly not viable.
@Hiratha said:
"I do not think the threshold should be raised, and I see no benefit whatsoever in doing so — except, I suppose, to the designers responsible for assessing it and their workload. But none to us-the-people-who-buy-the-sets. All it’s likely to do is make it harder for non-IP and smaller-IP ideas and what on earth would be the improvement there? Ideas would only be a more boring theme."
All the people clammoring for a raised threshold are probably looking at a review class of 97 projects and thinking, consciously or otherwise, that they can't afford to buy that many sets over a 4-month span of time. But the truth is, they'll never have the opportunity. There's no way having 97 projects to review is going to cause the Ideas team to crank out dozens of new sets per review session, but the more projects they have to choose between, the better it is for the program. There were times past when whole review classes got rejected, but maybe if there had been more variety in each class, they would have found at least one project they wanted to turn into a set.
"Before I read the name of the Beating Heart I thought something truly terrible had happened to Spider-Man."
Would that really be terrible? Spiderman is such a lame superhero.
Monsters Unchained please.
@PurpleDave
No-one could possibly deserve being Akira’d just for being lame, and Spidey is a nice dude so he definitely wouldn’t.
@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"Just a rehash of an earlier (rejected) submission? Out."
Excdept I'm pretty sure there are at least a few sets that came from projects that were just rehashes of previously rejected ideas. One major complication, at least where IP is involved, is whether the license is up for grabs at the time. If someone else has it locked up when a related project goes to review, the project is going to be rejected without prejudice. If the exact same design makes it to 10k a year later, maybe the license has expired, and the IP is open for negotiation. By this logic, they should have auto-rejected the second submission solely because of the poor timing of the first one, rather than because the concept is truly not viable."
If that was the reason? Okay, maybe keep it. If not, out. Even when they don't tell us, I assume Lego knows why they reject submissions...
Also, if one submission was rejected because of that and someone else copies it a bit later but now it goes through, how fair is that? I'd say in that case the original (rejected) submission still deserves the credit.
(obviously not when the second one is a distinctly different take on the same IP)
But so often we see barely indistinguishable submissions for the same IP, even in the same review round. And considering Ideas is about the *idea*, not a mostly finalized design like BDP, if you're number 2, sorry, you're too late. Better luck next time.
@WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"Just a rehash of an earlier (rejected) submission? Out."
Excdept I'm pretty sure there are at least a few sets that came from projects that were just rehashes of previously rejected ideas. One major complication, at least where IP is involved, is whether the license is up for grabs at the time. If someone else has it locked up when a related project goes to review, the project is going to be rejected without prejudice. If the exact same design makes it to 10k a year later, maybe the license has expired, and the IP is open for negotiation. By this logic, they should have auto-rejected the second submission solely because of the poor timing of the first one, rather than because the concept is truly not viable."
If that was the reason? Okay, maybe keep it. If not, out. Even when they don't tell us, I assume Lego knows why they reject submissions...
Also, if one submission was rejected because of that and someone else copies it a bit later but now it goes through, how fair is that? I'd say in that case the original (rejected) submission still deserves the credit.
(obviously not when the second one is a distinctly different take on the same IP)
But so often we see barely indistinguishable submissions for the same IP, even in the same review round. And considering Ideas is about the *idea*, not a mostly finalized design like BDP, if you're number 2, sorry, you're too late. Better luck next time."
If it’s a recreation of an IP thing, especially — as these usually are — the most obvious thing in the IP, I don’t think merely being first is much of a claim to creativity such that anyone else who does it could be considered as a dismissible copy. They’re *all* copies, including the first one.
The brick separator qualified???? Who would by that???
@edmi said:
"The brick separator qualified???? Who would buy that???"
I don’t think it’s difficult to understand — most of the people voting on Lego Ideas are Lego fans, and a lot of Lego fans will be amused by a giant buildable brick separator. I don’t think it’s likely Lego will choose it to make into a set, though.
(Although a smaller version would make a pretty good GWP, come to think of it.)
@Hiratha said:
" @edmi said:
"The brick separator qualified???? Who would by that???"
I don’t think it’s difficult to understand — most of the people voting on Lego Ideas are Lego fans, and a lot of Lego fans will be amused by a giant buildable brick separator. I don’t think it’s likely Lego will choose it to make into a set, though.
(Although a smaller version would make a pretty good GWP, come to think of it.)"
To be fair, this is Brickset, home of the endless litany of "why Lego object when could buy real?" So I can see how liking aspects of the specific Lego building experience might be confusing.
@Hiratha said:
"If it’s a recreation of an IP thing, especially — as these usually are — the most obvious thing in the IP, I don’t think merely being first is much of a claim to creativity such that anyone else who does it could be considered as a dismissible copy. They’re *all* copies, including the first one."
I don't agree with that. The first is a recreation. Where they picked certain elements of that IP. And sure, often those will be pretty obvious. But take the Mystery Shack for example: I have absolutely zero clue what Gravity Falls is about, but I can't imagine this is all there is? Yet I can't shake the feeling that every Gravity Falls submission we get is just that same Mystery Shack over and over again. Built slightly different, but that doesn't take away it is the exact same idea. Is there really no way to give a more creative spin to that IP? Or even if it absolutely has to be the Mystery Shack because Gravity Falls apparently has nothing else to offer, is it impossible to do something different with it?
And honestly, that goes beyond just the IP. I mean, does every sitcom set have to be a room with minifigs? That's no idea anymore. Honestly, if one thing I think it's a missed opportunity Lego themselves didn't turn it into a theme with stackable set you could turn into a huge sitcom tower....
@HOBBES said:
" @GmngFntx said:
"PS1 would be awesome. It could lead up to a collection of retro game consoles. They already released the Gameboy"
Well, Lego has already done the NES 71374-1 and Atari 10306-1. PS1 is apparently in the making and should be announced fairly soon - Sega Genesis/Megadrive 40926-1 was announced recently. As for arcade games, Pacman 10323-1 and arcade machine 40805-1 are still available. On the portable console, only the Gameboy 72046-1 was made (and still available) so far."
I didn't know that
@WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"Just a rehash of an earlier (rejected) submission? Out."
Excdept I'm pretty sure there are at least a few sets that came from projects that were just rehashes of previously rejected ideas. One major complication, at least where IP is involved, is whether the license is up for grabs at the time. If someone else has it locked up when a related project goes to review, the project is going to be rejected without prejudice. If the exact same design makes it to 10k a year later, maybe the license has expired, and the IP is open for negotiation. By this logic, they should have auto-rejected the second submission solely because of the poor timing of the first one, rather than because the concept is truly not viable."
If that was the reason? Okay, maybe keep it. If not, out. Even when they don't tell us, I assume Lego knows why they reject submissions..."
They have to choose between accept, reject, and parking lot now, so there’s got to be some explanation at least stated, if not recorded. But we aren’t privy to that info unless it clearly runs afoul of their banned/restricted list. Even in cases like when two Doctor Who projects went up for the same review class, we don’t know _why_ the other project was rejected in favor of the one they picked. All we know is they can’t pick both, and they clearly didn’t reject it because they wouldn’t/couldn’t acquire the license.
"Also, if one submission was rejected because of that and someone else copies it a bit later but now it goes through, how fair is that? I'd say in that case the original (rejected) submission still deserves the credit."
The rules overtly allow you to adjust your design and resubmit it. If you keep doing that and never quite hit the mark, but someone else independently submits a design that hits the mark and gets accepted, how fair is it that you get the credit when you couldn’t bring an acceptable design to the table? If you can prove they cribbed your work, then fine. If you can’t, there is the possibility that you both independently arrived at similar designs.
"(obviously not when the second one is a distinctly different take on the same IP)
But so often we see barely indistinguishable submissions for the same IP, even in the same review round. And considering Ideas is about the *idea*, not a mostly finalized design like BDP, if you're number 2, sorry, you're too late. Better luck next time."
You’re arguing against yourself here.
They should just do ALL of them just once. Just for the chaos. It would fit with how the world is in 2026.
With that said, I could be safe from most of these anyway. I'd always go for Gravity Falls, but since they've rejected before, they will likely reject again. But I'd be livid if they accepted this one but I had a submission for it earlier.
I actually know one of the designers for once, so it would be neat if theirs gets picked.
@PurpleDave said:
"They have to choose between accept, reject, and parking lot now, so there’s got to be some explanation at least stated, if not recorded. But we aren’t privy to that info unless it clearly runs afoul of their banned/restricted list. Even in cases like when two Doctor Who projects went up for the same review class, we don’t know _why_ the other project was rejected in favor of the one they picked. All we know is they can’t pick both, and they clearly didn’t reject it because they wouldn’t/couldn’t acquire the license."
And who makes those rules? If they clearly don't really work anymore, wht wouldn't they be able to change them?
@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"(obviously not when the second one is a distinctly different take on the same IP)
But so often we see barely indistinguishable submissions for the same IP, even in the same review round. And considering Ideas is about the *idea*, not a mostly finalized design like BDP, if you're number 2, sorry, you're too late. Better luck next time."
You’re arguing against yourself here."
How?
@WizardOfOss
I see no indication that the rules aren’t working anymore, let alone a clear one. The sets, so far as anyone can tell without access to Lego sales data, seem to do well. If some of these are obvious rejects to fans, well, we’ve been surprised by their Ideas choices before, and anyway even if they are that just means less concern about workload. There’s a decent variety of sets every year. Every indication is that the rules are working perfectly fine.
@JDawg5 said:
" @Kalhiki said:
"A lot of these I see not being produced simply for being similar to stuff Lego produces (Terrariums and Hydroponics seem to similar to Botanicals), already produced (music videos and sitcoms) or for not passing prior reviews (Gravity Falls, Ghibli).
So ruling those out, not a lot here that interests me. I like the folding screens and the Chinese cork carving. Long shot, but Kingdom Hearts would be amazing to see."
Yeah, a lot of these are very obviously chasing perceived trends in the Lego product line. Lego made a Project Hail Mary set, so here's an Interstellar set!
"
People have been suggesting Interstellar sets on Ideas since before Project Hail Mary was even a thing.
Regular Show would be interesting although it has some content that might rule it out...
@WizardOfOss said:
"And who makes those rules?"
They do.
"If they clearly don't really work anymore, wht wouldn't they be able to change them?"
And they also decide if those rules don’t work anymore. My guess is they don’t feel that’s the case, or they’d have changed something. Just because the Brickset crowd freaks out whenever they see ~100 projects go up for review three times per year doesn’t mean the Ideas team sees a problem. And since they’re the ones who have to pick the projects that get selected, I don’t see any issue with the current format.
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"(obviously not when the second one is a distinctly different take on the same IP)
But so often we see barely indistinguishable submissions for the same IP, even in the same review round. And considering Ideas is about the *idea*, not a mostly finalized design like BDP, if you're number 2, sorry, you're too late. Better luck next time."
You’re arguing against yourself here."
How?"
You said it’s okay if someone comes up with a different take on the same IP, but then immediately followed that up by saying second comers are out of luck. Either it’s okay to not be the first one to propose an untapped IP, or it’s not. It can’t be both. Not unless the project they’re both submitting is Schroedinger’s Cat.
Eta: Re: Repeated IP designs: I doubt it has anything to do with any particular IP only having one cool thing, or the fans being unoriginal, but rather quite a lot to do with fans individually asking themselves “if we only ever get One Thing made from our fandom, what would we want that One Thing to be?” and coming up with consistent answers. After all, most IPs have a Most Important Thing.
If there was only going to be a chance at one Star Wars set, I imagine a solid majority of Star Wars fans would opt for replicating the Falcon — that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t want, or want to design, other Star Warsy things if it wasn’t the only shot they’d ever get.
@PurpleDave
I disagree with WizardOfOss about whether being slightly earlier to replicate a thing which already exists represents a display of unique creativity such that anyone after is a mere copyist whether they even saw and remember the design or not, but I believe the key bit was “barely distinguishable”, which makes it perfectly consistent with saying a “distinctly different” take on the IP would be fine in their opinion.
@PurpleDave said:
"
"You’re arguing against yourself here.
"How?"
"
You said it’s okay if someone comes up with a different take on the same IP, but then immediately followed that up by saying second comers are out of luck. Either it’s okay to not be the first one to propose an untapped IP, or it’s not. It can’t be both. Not unless the project they’re both submitting is Schroedinger’s Cat."
No, I clearly stated it's okay if you do something distinctly different with that same IP. Something creative. Just another minifig scaled Mystery Shack with a slightly different build than the ones that came before is not that. Despite not knowing anything about Gravity Falls beyond these Ideas submisions, I just can't imagine that shack is the one and only interesting and memorable thing about the series?
@WizardOfOss
As above, it doesn’t need to be the only cool thing, it just needs to be the thing a lot of fans will independently conclude is the most important cool thing to get if there is only ever going to be one set for their favoured IP. Most people are obviously going to prioritise much more narrowly than they might otherwise in that situation, and I can only think of one major exception to Ideas being that situation. No-one is going to rely on Sonic being repeated. It’s outnumbered.
(Perhaps there are others that aren’t Sonic the Hedgehog, but they don’t spring to mind. The Back To The Future Speed Champions just repeated the same subject because, well, it’s the most important cool thing which everyone who likes BTTF wants. Magic of Disney and Steamboat Willie, maybe, but they’re a special case all their own since the IP was already solidly provided for.)
@Hiratha, I get that, but that doesn't take away that once a certain type of set has been done (and rejected), it's no longer an idea, just a copy. And no, it doesn't have to be identical, the Lego designers will change it all anyways. But a new submission of the same thing should bring something new to the table. Most of those repeat submissions don't.
And in case of licensing issues, what's stopping Lego from looking back at old, rejected submissions that were rejected because of that? And by doing so credit the one who came up with the idea first.
I would buy a surprising number of these!
I would by a reasonably priced brick separator.
There, I said it. You can’t bully me. @Crux has my back. I think.
@yellowcastle said:
"I would by a reasonably priced brick separator.
There, I said it. You can’t bully me. @Crux has my back. I think."
It's a nice build, but Ideas does not reward creativity. Ideas is where expression goes to die.
I'm not saying BLDP is better, they're both dead to me. You should not have summoned me to this thread. You have wasted one of your wishes! No refunds!
@Crux said:
" @yellowcastle said:
"I would by a reasonably priced brick separator.
There, I said it. You can’t bully me. @Crux has my back. I think."
It's a nice build, but Ideas does not reward creativity. Ideas is where expression goes to die.
I'm not saying BLDP is better, they're both dead to me. You should not have summoned me to this thread. You have wasted one of your wishes! No refunds!"
On a hill, stands alone.
Beckoning ridge abandons.
Ideas, Bricklink, Me.
LEGO should probably be more clear on filtering out IPs, like if they rejected something because of the IP, it should block future submissions of it.
Like blocking all submissions of said IP, would also help more then just simply rejecting over and over, for example some movie / tv show / game / whatever has multiple seasons/locations/vehicles as different submissions , it's better to just reject the entire IP instead of having to filter whatever was submitted if the reason for rejection was purely the IP itself.
I mean, it's still called IDEAS, it's not called "hey let's remind LEGO over and over" after they implemented some form of IP filter, even if they can't get the license now but in a few years, it'd be crazy to think they need to be reminded via a 10.000 vote submission every few months/years.
That'd be a better solution then changing threshold, and the 100k / 1 million comment I made was more of a joke.
Turtles 1987 would be an instant buy for me. Looks great