Exclusive: Exo-Suits side-by-side

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Peter Reid has sent me this image showing his version and the 'official' version of the Exo-Suit side-by-side.

The main difference, which you'll notice at first glance, is that it's a lot taller. The need to use robust ball and socket joints for the feet and leg joints looks to be the main reason for that, as the body appears to be much the same size.

There's plenty of greebling, much of it inspired by the original, as well as some cool features not present on it such as the flexi-hoses and wheel hub caps at the back, and lots of bits and pieces sticking out of the top, probably there to give the appearance of the model some balance.

Take a look, then let us know which you prefer...

Photo by ex-Brickset administrator Bluemoose.

61 comments on this article

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By in United Kingdom,

Ignore the fleshie fig in the 'new-suit'; the set has a yellow fig.

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By in United Kingdom,

Right... I didn't even notice :)

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By in Hong Kong,

The original design looks better and green spaceman doesn't match the robot.

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By in United States,

I think a lot of the awesomeness of the original mech was taken away from Pete's original model. Little things, like the gears in the shoulders, gave it that little piece of detail that the new model doesn't have. On its own, the official set is very nice. Compared to the original, it lacks.

Another thing is that the greebling in the original completely covers EVERYTHING. That thing is a big hunky piece of pure greeble. The new one is a skeleton with greebles attached where it's convenient. I know the designers need to make a model that will actually stay together, but still...

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By in United States,

tough to say which I prefer....the barrels on the arms of the new one seem odd though. otherwise they do seem in the spirit of the original.

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By in United Kingdom,

I like both designs and as we will have access to both sets of instructions everyone can be happy? I wonder if someone will do a parts comparison? I notice some yellow transparent pieces, which I didn't notice in the video, but on re-watching I can see them there. It is understandable that colour variation would be added, but I am not sure about the yellow yet. It is great they kept so much of the detail and complexity, I assume that is one of the reasons, for waiting so long to release? Hope everyone can get one.

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By in United States,

Both look good so would be welcome in any collection. The new version has a more aggressive look to it, but ironically looks 'safer' for the minifig because of the protective 'rollbar' frame that sits above the operator. Othe than this I have to give kudos to the original designer as his design is excellent and and very creative.

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By in United States,

Best official recreation in my opinion.

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By in Germany,

Those pieces sticking out on top are responsible for a lion's share of the perceived difference in size. An optical illusion, basically. Think them away (or think them onto the original) for a fair comparison. You'll notice that actually not just the body, but the legs, too, appear to be much the same size, and the model proper is just a tiny bit taller because the legs now attach underneath the body rather than to its sides. A difference of two studs perhaps, if that. Look at the shoulders, look at where the pilots sit. The rest is smoke and mirrors.

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By in {Unknown country},

It took me all night to reverse the original from Peter Reid and build my own replica. :)
Just need to figure which part is one used in the model, but it is not a fundamental thing. At some point I though it was a rubber band, but now I'm in doubt.
Pretty unstable to make it stand and lots of illegal techniques. Even a couple of axles cut, which took me some time to understand the reason to do this.
Now I need to go on BrickLink to buy some parts in the correct colors...

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By in United States,

The new one is sturdier and uses fewer illegal connections, which makes it much better as a set. As a MOC that exists purely for display the old one might have some advantages that the new one lacks. But as a set those advantages are hugely overwhelmed by the fiddly nature of the build.

@alexyiu: I've never quite understood why some people feel like pilots have to match their vehicles. That was never an issue in the actual classic space sets, yet I've seen people make those sorts of bizarre complaints not just about this set but also about certain BIONICLE vehicles. In my opinion, contrast is a good thing as it helps the pilot stand out against the machine.

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By in Indonesia,

while not as cool as the original, they still manage to pull off the looks here. and considering they getting rid all the illegall technique and the fiddly nature, this is actually pretty cool. a definite must have. hopefully i can get this set before it runs out.

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By in United States,

I'm not a fan of the extra greeble-spikes or the rollbar and now I see why: Those spikes were added to compensate for the greebles removed for structural reasons and to make the thing look taller, but now it looks out of proportion with the illusion added. I'll definitely be taking those off. And the rollbar makes it look chunkier, and it also seems out of proportion. Luckily, it's an easy mod. The Bionicle joints don't look that great either, but that was inevitable.

That promotional picture made it look like the round tiles with Technic hole were light grey. Are they actually light grey, or are they dark grey like in every other set with them added?

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By in United States,

@Schwallex - I'm looking at all the parts that you pointed out and I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you - the new model is significantly taller even without the extra spiky greebles. The legs are longer, the torso is taller, the shoulders are significantly higher than on the original model. Additionally, the legs are still not as straight as on the original model, being bent at greater angles at each joint. If the legs are able to straighten more, it would even be taller.

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By in Malaysia,

Generally I like the look of the final product, but I wish they had kept the wheel rims for the arms. I can't get "barrels" out of my head when I look at the new arms.

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By in United States,

The official version looks much better.

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By in United Kingdom,

I think both are great but slightly prefer the official release it looks studier and far tougher. Im quite liking the barrels and amended hands and legs. Not a fan of the spikes and would have liked to have seen more of the gears from the original minor complaints aside I am excited and very much looking forward to the set. With this and bennys ship and the popularity around them, could a new spacemen vs space pirates theme be the next step?

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By in United States,

I think lego613master summed up my feelings very well. The redesign is and cool, fun model, but especially when held side by side, is an inferior approximation. Now, this one you can actually PLAY with, but based on style alone it doesn't hold up as strongly. The original is very "tight", to the point of not even knowing which bricks you're looking at at times, which is really a hallmark of the most impressive and captivating MOCs.

It's almost as if it was recreated from memory, as parts of the shoulders, hands and feet are the only recognizable copies.

I'd really like if there were some instructions for the original, so the community could tinker with their own custom adaptations of the two together.

It's an admirable effort, one that I'll definitely add to my collection, but hasn't left me as giddy and I had hoped.

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By in United Kingdom,

Thumbs up for the new model from me.

I like the increased height and it's a toy so needs to be robust. Peter's looks good but I can imagine minifig hands and greebling falling off all over the place if my 3 year old got his hands on it.

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By in United Kingdom,

The Barrels are probably cheaper to make than the silver wheel hubs used in the prototype?
Lego probably had several hundred thousand of the barrels in the warehouse anyway. :)

The official model has a flew colour changes, which make it less "grey" and possibly more interesting to young fans of lego.
I think I like it and will probably get one.


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By in United States,

As a toy that kids will play with the new one wins. I can't figure out, though, why they chose to use a 1x1 round tile in the chest instead of the binoculars. Having the binoculars would have gone a long way to making it cooler.

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By in United States,

I do like the new model. In comparing it to the old one, the changes I like the least are the things sticking out of the shoulders and the height of the rollbar. I think the green fig clashes, but is still cool and gives it a very unique special feel given this is the first classic space fig in green. I would have liked the classic helmet though.

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By in Czech Republic,

With a huge respect to original creator I have to admit the offical version looks much better to me. The main reason is the original suit looks somehow monotonous because of the same light gray color used for all the parts (in exception of a few silver parts). Official version has more contrast between parts used thanks to light and dark gray colors used. To me it looks more attractive.

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By in Hungary,

At the level of details the two models are quite different. In the final model there has less "irregular" connections and it looks more robust - which is a requirement for an official set obviously :) So my vote is on the final version. But the credit is for Pete to start the whole project!

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By in Singapore,

I actually thought the official set is very well done and looks more polished. The original is awesome but obviously fan-created. Covering a vehicle or starship in greebles is one thing; I read that the creators over at ILM actually thought through what each greeble might function if the vehicle were real when designing the vehicles in a Star Wars. And more recently, the Jaegers in Pacific Rim. Sure greeble makes a ship look awesome but meaningless greeble otoh makes it look cluttered. In this regard Lego did a great job.

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By in Ireland,

I think Mark has done a great job. The original is just too fragile to be a set so it was always going to be redesigned from the ground up to use stronger joints. It's just a shame that those stronger connections didn't allow for the bevel gears on the shoulders. Other than that I really like the design and I think it stayed true to the original.
To the people complaining about the shoulder spikes: Pete himself has developed the Exo suit and MkII also has similar spikes.

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By in United Kingdom,

Hmm, actually think i prefer the new version (sorry peter) apart from the barrel arms,yuk! Will be changing that when i get my hands on one!

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By in United States,

I think the majority of the differences are due to new parts and stability. When this MOC was made, not many of the official one's pieces were around. LEGO essentially modernized the set by including current pieces. Notice the Friends handlebar on the rollcage and the light grey inverted domes near the hands, and the ADU ray guns on the top, and even the controversial round tiles on the shoulders. I don't like the yellow pieces much, though. It makes it look more technical, maybe, but I liked the uniform gray.

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By in United States,

I have to say that this is the FIRST time that I feel like the 'official' set has turned out better than the MOC.

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By in United States,

I think Peter's MOC is MUCH better, just because of the amount of detail and the skill it takes to fit that into a model like this. But for a LEGO set, the set is great. It's just that there are things LEGO can't to because of building standards. I'm not find of the things sticking out of the top, though. Ill probably remove them. Im not a fan of thise hubcaps in the back, either. Combined with the tubing, it looks almost steampunk. Ill have a couple changes it looks like. I can see people changing the colors to modify it for their own purposes.

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By in Germany,

The one thing I really don't like is, that lego used those barrels in the arms. Regardless of it's color, that part always screams to me: "wooden barrel, wooden barrel!" Though, that's a let down for me. The rest seems quite good and very play- and poseable to me.

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By in United States,

I prefer the official as it shows a more menacing structure.

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By in Philippines,

I like the greebles in the original model a lot better. Aside from that, both have their own merits.

By the way, I noticed that the shadows underneath the feet of the official set appear to be not in touch with the front and back parts. I wonder if that wouldn't affect the stability?

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By in Denmark,

Considering how it could have turned out (a Hero Factory style robot), I think the designer's done an excellent job. Well done to all involved. Now the next thing I hope they don't screw up on is availability. Make lots of sets, guys. Have them available through all the normal channels and not just lego.com

As for the barrels - in years to come, they'll just remind you of the ExoSuit.

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By in United States,

The official does exactly what i had hoped it would do. it inspires creativity. many wanted to see a near identical design to the original. but we know that the original was fragile extremely in some spots. the new is a tank in comparison and is loaded with greebling. but there are a myriad of things im seeing people are just a touch unhappy with and to me those are all spots where the sit can be customized. think of the old war pilots those planes had tons of custom changes (mostly paint i admit) but they where unique to each Pilot. these Exo Suits i see in much the same way though they are at core the same (the new ones) each person can improve/add/remove greebling to make it just they way they would have wanted it. oh and on the barrel issue. I've seen several industrial cylinders that resemble a barrel but generate tremendous force. i see nothing wrong with them and often find many things that resemble far more mundane objects that you just don't realize till you think about things a bout differently

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By in Bolivia,

I never liked the original. Too plain of a color scheme. The new one looks great! Some less hacky articulations and is larger and has a bit more color. Plus yellow minifig is great.

This shall forever be an example of why redesigning the set from the Cusoo idea to an actual set is so important part of "Lego ideas"

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By in United States,

I think what must be remembered is that the original is a pure MOC, designed for the owner's personal enjoyment. Ergo, it is not bound by the same rules and regulations that LEGO uses when designing their sets, which must adhere to certain standards for stability. Therefore, the MOC is free to use all manner of illegal building techniques (defined as techniques that LEGO designers avoid so as to not compromise the stability of a model) while the official set is not.

That said, I think the Exo-Suit LEGO set is absolutely spectacular and a must-buy. It captures the look and feel of the original while being necessarily more robust, such that anyone, from seasoned AFOL to an 8-year old, can enjoy it. Kudos to Peter Reid and the design team!

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By in Hungary,

Looks like I'm the only one who sees the barrel as a metal tube with some pattern on it.

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By in United States,

To those of you who don't like the barrels, Mark Stafford explains on Reddit that he used the barrerls to hide some odd connections. He also shares a lot of other fascinating details about the design process. You can read his responses to questions about the model at the following thread. He goes by the name Lego_nabii, so look for those comments: http://www.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/29tas5/lego_ideas_exosuit_finally_revealed/

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By in United Kingdom,

Overall I feel the release version is an improvement in most areas. The back details, roll cage and larger size are great. A shame we lose the gears at the shoulders. Would have liked to have seen the torso in blue.

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By in United States,

I'm a little disappointed in the harshness of criticism for the new version.

I was never really a fan of the original; I thought it was awkward-looking. I considered it more of an "art" set that needed to be posed and put on a shelf rather than a set with some playability that someone could actually hold. The connections look strong enough to withstand careful posing, but I wouldn't let one of my kids hold it.

That being said, looking at the comparison, I have a better appreciation for the original. It is a great design with superior parts-usage while the official set has a better color scheme with the contrast of some different color parts and is more structurally sound.

Congratulations to Peter Reid for earning one of those golden tickets!

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By in United States,

I think it looks pretty darn cool! Does anyone have positive confirmation the minifigs will not be flesh? The classic spacemen, eh, spacepeople, looks so cool in flesh!

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By in United States,

I'd go with putting the gears (like the original) on the shoulders of the new one and get rid of those barrels on the forearms. Would be fun to swap out parts and have some silver and even chrome

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By in United Kingdom,

The minifigs are definitely not fleshies.

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By in United States,

If you don't like the official set, then build your own or modify it. It's LEGO, that's what it's for! Stop whining and take an awesome set for what it is; AWESOME! No wonder LEGO doesn't try to please all the AFOLs, we are a bunch of whiny kids who don't appreciate efforts when we see a nitpicky little issue. BUILD IT BETTER YOURSELF. And keep the green figs. ; )

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By in United States,

Wow, like many others, I initially had no interest in this set, but the final version has sold me! The only aspect of the original I like better was the use of the bevel gears as a texture. I love the use of color in the final design, especially the touches of trans yellow. And of course that green fig! I do have a soft spot for minifig hands being used as a greeble, but I suspected Lego wouldn't let that fly. The taller, more imposing stance is also an improvement.

I will have to make one change, though. Definitely going with a classic, yellow smiley head instead of the flesh tone. Sorry PCS fans, but I like it old school. :)

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By in Switzerland,

Too bad there are so many changes to the original. The Ideas model looks like a completely different model. It is okay, but I very much prefer the more open cockpit of the original. Will buy the set, but will rather use/build the original.

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By in United Kingdom,

I don't think the choice of barrel on the arms was purely down to price. The barrels are hollow and I'm sure I read some where that they've hidden quite a robust joint within the barrel. So it's probably due to stability more than price, after all those parts in Peter's original are still available in colours other than metallic silver.

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By in United States,

@Mr.PicnicBasket: The original model had BIONICLE joints as well, though — it just used brackets to try and hide them. An odd choice, since the old-style joints it used already had a pretty greebly texture compared to the newer ones, which are sturdier than the old ones.

The only places where BIONICLE joints were added to the official model were the knees and ankles. I vastly prefer the new one's knees. They seem much more practical and make the legs feel more proportionate. It would have been nice if the ball for the knees could have been a shade of grey, though. That's speaking both in the context of this set and in terms of MOCing potential — more colors of those would be a real treat. As for the ankles, I don't have a problem with those either, though it's a bit odd how the sturdy ball joints for the ankles only attach by a single Technic friction pin which can swivel freely.

@ra226: The head in the real set is a yellow head, so no switching is necessary unless you're particular about using the classic "two dots and a smile" expression.

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By in Ireland,

The original had ball joints in the shoulders and the hips. The new one has at least one more in the ankles, and possibly the knees too. The original uses pneumatic T pieces for many of the joint connections. The trouble is it only works with the older style ones, as the new ones (with the bubble in the middle) don't give enough clutch for it to stand up for long.

I believe Pete would have liked fleshie faces, but they had to be hellow. I suspect most classic space fans will be happy with that.

I know that a set of instructions exists for the original Exo suit. I don't know if it will ever be made available to fans. Some of the parts are quite hard to find.

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By in United States,

I think the video is cool and will help drive sales of multiples.

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By in United States,

^^ Where can I find the instuctions for the original? Tell me now!

@Aanchir: I wasn't aware that there was another version of the pneumatic T. I kinda suspected Pete used ball joints, but those were very well hidden. Thanks!

I wonder what sort of connection is inside that barrel...

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By in Hungary,

Green classic space minifigs? Wow, it's awesome!
The original version is very nice creation and absolutely looks like an classic space set from the 80's... And the new one (#21109) is really tough! I love it.

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By in France,

Another big hype and buzz for a totally boring model :/ (except MSL :o )

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By in United States,

^would you like some whine and cheese with that Exosuit model

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By in United States,

Green classic space minifigs! I was going to comment on the promotional white classic spaceman article that I wished they had put it out in green, and then along comes this news! I was going to buy this anyway, as I love the design. I think there are parts of the exo suit final set that aren't as good as the proposal, but others that make more sense (and make it appear a little sturdier), so overall it's a wash. I think I'll be getting three or four of these. One to keep NIB, one to display, one for my son to actually play with, and one for the minifigs as I'm trying to collect all space minifigs 1978 - present. Okay, that makes four, so there you have it!

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By in United States,

@ LEGO613Master.
I think the designers walked the line between "fall-apart-on-one-touch" and "all-playability" with the new version. :P
Honestly, I think the new one looks much tougher, and has a lot of features the original lacked.

By the way, does anyone know what the price will be yet?

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By in United States,

Just in case anyone's keeping track 60 comments into the thread, I think the official design is great. I can't say it's "better" than the original, because the original was a display piece that didn't have the same restrictions an official set did. Knowing that it couldn't use illegal connections and had to be sturdy, the official model is an excellent rendition.

We are all fearing that TLG would remove much of the greebling and make it a glorified Hero Factory set, and that clearly isn't the case. I applaud TLG's faithfulness to the original design and the recognition of what Cuusoo supporters wanted from this set.

I do miss the gears in the shoulders that Peter's model had. That was a very cool and believable design touch. On the other hand, I prefer this design's cockpit cage, as well as the legs appearing a little more weighty and "piston-y" to me. Plus, it's even taller than the original, even without the greeble-spikes! Overall I'm really happy with this set.

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By in United Kingdom,

I personally prefer the original, it's nice and compact and the colors are better. Lego had a good shot at a remake, but those exhausts (if that's what they are) don't win me over.

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By in Canada,

I'm loving the new design, we all knew they would have to beef up the design to keep in line with TLG standards. Having seen Pete's original in person at a Lego Show in Swindon, I am happy that the designers kept the overall look and appeal.

What is not to love about Green Space Mini-figures!! Loving it! Happy that they stuck with the yellow heads too. Not a fan of fleshy. I think they the cage is a better design on the new one and I like the accents with the trans-yellow parts. The barrels provide more stability and lengthened the arms. I do agree that I like the disc joints in the original but that isn't stopping us from adding it in order to MOD it. ;)

I will definitely buy this, I just hope they make enough and don't run out as I suspect this will be very popular.

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