I really need some of these for my Invasion of Coruscant display, but I just never found them out in the wild because I never went to Toys R Us anymore. LEGO kind of has me in its grasp because of the VIP points, I never really buy from anywhere else, even if there's a deal because I can't gain points to knock off a ton of money on some of their other overpriced stuff. It's a vicious cycle.

@MeisterDad said:
"Those minifig heads must be really mad to be that colour."

Oh come on! Dark Red is awesome!

@AverageChimaEnjoyer said:
"Supposed to be getting a full-size one next year! Hope we get some 442nd troopers with it - or better yet (*angelic choir vocals*), Phase 2 Commander Wolffe!"

Yes, I would also like the inclusion of Plo's bros!

Plo-Koon could be thrown in there too, just for good measure.

But then it would be based off either TCW, or the order 66 scene where Plo is gunned down by an ARC-170. Mostly likely the latter, as it will be the 20th anniversary of Revenge Of The Sith.

@Maxbricks14 said:
" @AverageChimaEnjoyer said:
"Supposed to be getting a full-size one next year! Hope we get some 442nd troopers with it - or better yet (*angelic choir vocals*), Phase 2 Commander Wolffe!"

Yes, I would also like the inclusion of Plo's bros!

Plo-Koon could be thrown in there too, just for good measure.

But then it would be based off either TCW, or the order 66 scene where Plo is gunned down by an ARC-170. Mostly likely the latter, as it will be the 20th anniversary of Revenge Of The Sith."

What I really want is a remake of 8093, with Plo Koon, R7-D4, and Wolffe

Star Wars. Star Wars! STAR WARRRRRSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I honestly never really liked the ARC-170. It's just a bit too big to be a starfighter (dedicated bomber, I'd believe), the S-foils seem superfluous, and the Egyptian chin is just weird. The two Jedi starfighters, on the other hand, are fantastic designs.

@PurpleDave said:
"I honestly never really liked the ARC-170. It's just a bit too big to be a starfighter (dedicated bomber, I'd believe), the S-foils seem superfluous, and the Egyptian chin is just weird. The two Jedi starfighters, on the other hand, are fantastic designs."

The bigger the better.

Although it does make it an easier target I guess lol.

@Maxbricks14 said:
" @PurpleDave said:
"I honestly never really liked the ARC-170. It's just a bit too big to be a starfighter (dedicated bomber, I'd believe), the S-foils seem superfluous, and the Egyptian chin is just weird. The two Jedi starfighters, on the other hand, are fantastic designs."

The bigger the better.

Although it does make you an easier target I guess lol."

Presumably, it would also make you less maneuverable, which means you wouldn't be all that great on offense either. The P-38 is a rare example where making a fighter bigger actually improved its performance as a fighter. But if you look at the design, they were able to give it two engines, at a time when fighters were generally restricted to one that's centrally-mounted. The tail is also _massive_, giving it two rudders and more than double the horizontal control surface, which means it would be able to change course more easily.

Consider that in Ep4 and Ep6, the Y-Wing and B-Wing were respectively billed as being fighter-bombers, with more emphasis on the bombing role. Then this thing dwarfs both of them, has two cockpits, a tail-gunner, and is strictly a fighter? Everything about the design screams that it's a straight-up bomber.

Never found this polybag in the wild. Only the original. Not sure how different they are.

Maybe I haven’t seen enough Clone Wars but this ship still doesn’t appeal to me? I don’t remember it being significant in Umbara despite the full-scale one coming with Krell and the only live-action battle it saw was the ROTS opening where it wasn’t a focus.

@Trigger_ said:
"Maybe I haven’t seen enough Clone Wars but this ship still doesn’t appeal to me? I don’t remember it being significant in Umbara despite the full-scale one coming with Krell and the only live-action battle it saw was the ROTS opening where it wasn’t a focus."

That was the Headhunter that came with Krell, not an Arc.
Arcs were not used until much later in the war.

Far better looking than the Torrent and its “what if we just had this bit get in the way until it flips around for no reason” design

I remember 2014 being the year of Revenge of the Sith with lego remaking some sets of the theme such as the Vulture Droid and Eta-class Jedi Starfighter. It's good to see that they didn't neglect the ARC-170.

Lots of Star Wars today, between the RSotD and RMotD, huh?

@MandalorianCandidate said:
"Never found this polybag in the wild. Only the original. Not sure how different they are. "

In the UK this poly was a 'free' gift with a purchase of the Daily Mail newspaper on a particular day in May '14.
I don't ever recall seeing it for purchase separately, but could be wrong.

@MeisterDad said:
"Those minifig heads must be really mad to be that colour."

Maybe at the time they were considering a remake of the infamous Red Indians set?

One of my favorite Clone ships in Lego, along with the V19 Torrent, still amazingly modern for its age. These folding wings - landing gear with pistons are a marvel of a Lego design IMO.

@PurpleDave said:
"I honestly never really liked the ARC-170. It's just a bit too big to be a starfighter (dedicated bomber, I'd believe), the S-foils seem superfluous, and the Egyptian chin is just weird. The two Jedi starfighters, on the other hand, are fantastic designs."

From a Doylist perspective, I see how it was designed as a link between the Republic Gunship and the X-wing, just like the Eta-2 was halfway between the pointy Delta-7 Jedi Starfighter (itself a foreshadowing of Star Destroyers) and the TIE/ln, and the clone trooper helmets were all intermediate designs between Jango/Boba's helmet and OT stormtroopers. And of course, First Order helmets continued the pattern of extending the frown and enlarging the eyes. (Just for fun, spend some time studying the evolution of SW helmets, then see if you can go the rest of the day without seeing them in car front ends, around the grille and headlights!)

@Maxbricks14 said:
"First we get a Star Wars minifigure, and now a set!"

'Always two there are, a master and an apprentice.'

I'll let you figure out which is which.

@bnic99:
It’s shaped like a bomber, the name indicates a recon role, and the only instance we’ve seen in the films depicts it as a front-line heavy fighter/target. It clearly doesn’t know what it’s supposed to be doing.

@tne328 said:
"And of course, First Order helmets continued the pattern of extending the frown and enlarging the eyes."

Must be based off Donald, because Daffy generally doesn’t look that angry.

" (Just for fun, spend some time studying the evolution of SW helmets, then see if you can go the rest of the day without seeing them in car front ends, around the grille and headlights!)"

I already do. There’s an SUV you couldn’t pay me to drive, because the taillights look like they were based off Darth Tantrum’s entirely pointless Emo-helmet.

@Maxbricks14 said:
"The ARC-170 is easily one of my favourite ships in Star Wars, it just looks so sleek. I also like how it's slightly bigger than most starfighters, being able to fit three pilots and an Astromech."

this is actually quite bad as a fighter, as makes it very expencive personel wise, usually a fighter would cost a pilot and maybe an Astromech, but needing to train 3 just for 1 ship? quite a lot of investment.
I dont think it was the cheapest ship in terms of base price either, and was very complex, so repairs werent quick/easy/cheap and more frequent than simpler ships, and as others have pointed out, it doesnt fit the fighter role very well much slower than A-wing/Tie Interceptors as good ship to ship fighters (even if they came later), a heavy armement, but then use a Y-wing or other ship more dedicated to that alongside V-wings or the Torrent for balance.

Essentially, while it looks cool, its not a good ship and no surprise the Empire didnt continue its production.

38PurplDave: Another advantage the P-38 had was that the weapons were centrally mounted; wing mounted weapons had to be set so their streams of fire converged at a certain distance in front of the plane, so the pilot needed to maneuver so his targets were at that distance. But the Lightning's nose-mounted machine guns and cannon didn't need that, so a pilot just needed to get enemy targets in front of him, and just "point and click."

@TheOtherMike said:
"38PurplDave: Another advantage the P-38 had was that the weapons were centrally mounted; wing mounted weapons had to be set so their streams of fire converged at a certain distance in front of the plane, so the pilot needed to maneuver so his targets were at that distance. But the Lightning's nose-mounted machine guns and cannon didn't need that, so a pilot just needed to get enemy targets in front of him, and just "point and click.""

Many WWII fighters had nose-mounted guns, thanks to the invention of the interruptor gear:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronization_gear

The P-38 still had an advantage because it didn’t need that, so there was zero chance of it failing. They recently pulled a Tuskegee training plane out of Lake Huron, and I think they said it had been determined that this actually happened, and the pilot blew his own propeller apart while dumping his armament prior to coming in for a landing.

Regarding wing-mounted guns, I think it was more that you _could_ aim them so they’d converge at a specific distance, and less that you’d have to. Frankly, I’d probably prefer parallel shots so my field of fire remained consistently larger than if they were nose-mounted. I also liked to fly X-Wings with quad-linked cannons. If a TIE so much as crossed my field of view, I could almost always get off a shot of opportunity that would score at least one hit. Every now and then I might get lucky and tag them with two guns.

@PurpleDave: Synchronization gear was falling out of fashion by WWII, per the very article you linked to. I'm not aware of any Allied planes that used it, although at least one Axis craft did, namely the Bf 109, which also had wing-mounted guns and a cannon firing through the propeller hub. Are you sure about the Tuskegee plane?

I bet those heads are unprinted leftovers from Atlantis' Squid Warriors.

@TheOtherMike said:
" @PurpleDave: Synchronization gear was falling out of fashion by WWII, per the very article you linked to. I'm not aware of any Allied planes that used it, although at least one Axis craft did, namely the Bf 109, which also had wing-mounted guns and a cannon firing through the propeller hub. Are you sure about the Tuskegee plane?"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/08/21/tuskegee-airmans-plane-recovered-michigan-lake-huron/70640991007/

Little bit. I’d never even heard of a P-39, nor was I aware that the Tuskegee Airmen trained in the Great Lakes region. In an unrelated bit of news, there’s an only-of-it’s-kind trainer variant of the Wildcat that was pulled from the waters of Lake Michigan in 2012, and they just finished restoring it earlier this year (11yr, 50k-hr job). Missed my chance to see it locally, and now it’s on to its permanent home in New England. That pilot ended up rolling off the end of the USS Sable’s trainer deck, got rescued (plane sank), flew in Europe during the war, and lived until 2008.

@PurpleDave: The P-39 was an odd duck. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-39_Airacobra