Cool set, but the dark red plates are a brittle nightmare. Weird that this scene has been represented once, but it’s not exactly toyetic in the film. Most of these guys go out like chumps. Proto Knights of Ren? Or callbacks to Boba Fett? Who cares?

Until 75378, I think this was the closest thing to an Order 66 set. I guess you could make a case for the various Juggernauts though.

Terrible build but good figures and one great play feature for launching mace windu. Out of the window.

Always reminds me of the gba “demake” of EP III the videogame (it was a side scrolling beat em up with 2 campaigns - one anakin, one obi wan - unlike Lego Star Wars the Videogame Mace Windu was a boss during the Anakin Campaign). I had it when the DS was the “trendy” thing since I only had a gba and got it cheap from the GameStop Bargain bin.

Maybe they could make a nicer less clunky Vignette of Palpatin’s office in modern times? Really baffles me to this day that this only had 2 walls (entrance, window backside). Lego already had solutions to make builds feel more like a closed space, yet also playable since a few years back then.

@PurpleDave said:
"So this is a bit morbid of a line of thinking (which means it's perfectly normal, acceptable, and to e encouraged for RXotD). There are six characters in this set, four of which die in this same scene. That's a 2:1 mortality ratio. Limiting the discussion specifically to named characters (no debating which battle droids in a given set suffered which fate, unless that battle droid is R0-GR), and to the scene depicted by the set, what's the deadliest set they've ever produced? 75020 has four fatalities and two survivors, which would be tied with this. 75397 has 11 characters, ten of which are named. Of those ten, only three survive, and 7:3 is a deadlier ratio than 2:1 (oddly, 6210 has a measly 1:6 mortality ratio amongst named characters, like the G-rated version of that scene)."

I might misremember, but isn’t the fate of most of the Glup Sh**os on the Barge unkown in the movie once Leia, Luke, Han, Carlo, Chewbacca and Droids escape? I don’t remember them blowing the Barge up.

@WolfpackBricksStudios said:
"If we don't get a Diorama Series remake of this next year my disappointment will be immeasurable "

I’d personally prefer just a more detailed playset remake. If you think about it, a Diorama would just be like the Death Star II throne Diorama but with a different window behind it and no stairs.

@Prof_Physika said:
"Cool set, but the dark red plates are a brittle nightmare. Weird that this scene has been represented once, but it’s not exactly toyetic in the film. Most of these guys go out like chumps. Proto Knights of Ren? Or callbacks to Boba Fett? Who cares?"

I’d assume they just got a few of the Background Jedi from prior films to have some characters to kill off with little consequence - Anakin is already on Palpatine’s Side, Yoda needs to survive to justify the OT happening, same for Obi Wan. I’d assume they chose Mace Windu to have someone with a bit of plot relevance in EP 1 + 2 fight Palpatine for a few seconds and the alien jedi to have more interesting visuals.

"Random set of the day" on the day I shipped my copy to another home! Incredible timing!

Really regret not picking this up back when it came out, I wish it would get a remaster/re-release like the Episode VI duel did back in 2020. Maybe for the 20th anniversary next year? I can dream.

@PurpleDave said:
"So this is a bit morbid of a line of thinking (which means it's perfectly normal, acceptable, and to e encouraged for RXotD). There are six characters in this set, four of which die in this same scene. That's a 2:1 mortality ratio. Limiting the discussion specifically to named characters (no debating which battle droids in a given set suffered which fate, unless that battle droid is R0-GR), and to the scene depicted by the set, what's the deadliest set they've ever produced? 75020 has four fatalities and two survivors, which would be tied with this. 75397 has 11 characters, ten of which are named. Of those ten, only three survive, and 7:3 is a deadlier ratio than 2:1 (oddly, 6210 has a measly 1:6 mortality ratio amongst named characters, like the G-rated version of that scene)."

75313 has an 8:1 ratio- only Luke survives in that scene

I was literally looking at this set yesterday... because it's the second most expensive set containing https://brickset.com/parts/4254606...

This was straight up a great set. The little flyer, doors and destruction playfeatures make this feel like a good set beyond just a minifig pack.

Did some looking out of curiosity, and there are only physical minifigures for 12 of the 20 or so prequel era Jedi Council members, including the four seen here. Another 4 have appeared in video games, but that doesn’t seem to be the case with Coleman Kcaj, Depa Billaba, or Oppo Rancisis.

@TheOtherMike said:
" @WolfpackBricksStudios said:
" @Lemerbrix06 said:
" @Maxbricks14 said:
""In the name of the galactic senate of the Republic, you are under arrest Chancellor""

Are you threatening me? Master Jedi?

"

The Senate will decide your fate."

I AM the Senate!"

I Am the Senate!

@PurpleDave said:
"So this is a bit morbid of a line of thinking (which means it's perfectly normal, acceptable, and to e encouraged for RXotD). There are six characters in this set, four of which die in this same scene. That's a 2:1 mortality ratio. Limiting the discussion specifically to named characters (no debating which battle droids in a given set suffered which fate, unless that battle droid is R0-GR), and to the scene depicted by the set, what's the deadliest set they've ever produced? 75020 has four fatalities and two survivors, which would be tied with this. 75397 has 11 characters, ten of which are named. Of those ten, only three survive, and 7:3 is a deadlier ratio than 2:1 (oddly, 6210 has a measly 1:6 mortality ratio amongst named characters, like the G-rated version of that scene)."

Does 75171 Battle on Scarif count? That's 2 for 2 of the named characters (and presumably both of the shoretroopers too).

@Brickalili said:"Ah the cannon fodder brigade, who in the grand tradition of Star Wars get a few minutes (if not seconds) of screen time and yet have page upon page of lore in the wiki"

Some of that lore would have come from the books "Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina," "Tales of the Bounty Hunters," and "Tales from Jabba's Palace," which were collections of short stories focused around those characters, although the last one does have stories about Bib Fortuna and Boba Fett, who had speaking roles. And there's one about Oola, although she had less of a speaking role and more of a screaming role.

@HJB2810 said:
" @PurpleDave said:
"So this is a bit morbid of a line of thinking (which means it's perfectly normal, acceptable, and to e encouraged for RXotD). There are six characters in this set, four of which die in this same scene. That's a 2:1 mortality ratio. Limiting the discussion specifically to named characters (no debating which battle droids in a given set suffered which fate, unless that battle droid is R0-GR), and to the scene depicted by the set, what's the deadliest set they've ever produced? 75020 has four fatalities and two survivors, which would be tied with this. 75397 has 11 characters, ten of which are named. Of those ten, only three survive, and 7:3 is a deadlier ratio than 2:1 (oddly, 6210 has a measly 1:6 mortality ratio amongst named characters, like the G-rated version of that scene)."

75313 has an 8:1 ratio- only Luke survives in that scene"

@PurpleDave said "Limiting the discussion to named characters." General Veers is the only other named character in the set, so it has a 1:1 ratio.

@Maxbricks14 said:
"One of my favourite Star Wars sets. I love all the details in the build, and the minifig selection is incredible. I think it deserves a remake in diorama form."

I totally agree with a remake, but how would a diorama differ from this scene framing? Omitting the landing platform would be the only change I would make (and that parts budget would be well used on additional office details!)

I wish I got this since there will never be another one

@Lemerbrix06 said:
" @Maxbricks14 said:
""In the name of the galactic senate of the Republic, you are under arrest Chancellor""

Are you threatening me? Master Jedi?

"

Um... Yes!

@Eightcoins8 said:
" @PurpleDave said:
"So this is a bit morbid of a line of thinking (which means it's perfectly normal, acceptable, and to e encouraged for RXotD). There are six characters in this set, four of which die in this same scene. That's a 2:1 mortality ratio. Limiting the discussion specifically to named characters (no debating which battle droids in a given set suffered which fate, unless that battle droid is R0-GR), and to the scene depicted by the set, what's the deadliest set they've ever produced? 75020 has four fatalities and two survivors, which would be tied with this. 75397 has 11 characters, ten of which are named. Of those ten, only three survive, and 7:3 is a deadlier ratio than 2:1 (oddly, 6210 has a measly 1:6 mortality ratio amongst named characters, like the G-rated version of that scene)."

I might misremember, but isn’t the fate of most of the Glup Sh**os on the Barge unkown in the movie once Leia, Luke, Han, Carlo, Chewbacca and Droids escape? I don’t remember them blowing the Barge up.

"

The barge absolutely *does* blow up (when they point the gun at the deck). However, alongside Leia and the Droids, Bib Fortuna and Max Rebo canonically survive, appearing in the Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett respectively! Meaning that only 6/11 figures die in 75397

@Eightcoins8:
Did you forget when Luke tells Leia to point the giant cannon at the deck?

Samuel L Jackson requested a role in the prequels, and reportedly asked that he not die like a chump. Going toe-to-toe with the main villain, and actually holding his own for a bit, would seem to suffice. Certainly more than getting Order 66ed in the back by your own troops.

@HJB2810:
As @TheOtherMike said, we don’t count Schrödinger’s Troopers.

@MCLegoboy:
We know the 5-year rule is in effect now (but they don’t necessarily wait five years to scrap it). We know it wasn’t in effect in 1999. We don’t know when they implemented that policy.

@unclghost:
Didn’t they die on a tower? That doesn’t look like a tower to me.

@Maxbricks14 said:
" @Lemerbrix06 said:
" @Maxbricks14 said:
""In the name of the galactic senate of the Republic, you are under arrest Chancellor""

Are you threatening me? Master Jedi?

"

Um... Yes!"

It's treason then.

@CapnRex101 said:
"Incidentally, I find the scene in the film overrated too. Make no mistake, I love Revenge of the Sith and the idea of a scene in which Sidious gets to demonstrate his full power has huge potential, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired. The shot of Agen Kolar inexplicably looking in completely the wrong direction before getting stabbed is one of my least favourite in the saga."
Interesting and unusual take! I personally think it's one of the best scenes in the trilogy, with some rare showcases of subtle visual storytelling instead of the poorly delivered exposition dumps that the prequels are known for - like the shot of Anakin's face hidden in the shadows as he accepts the Darth Vader title, or the parallels between Anakin's choice here and his choice at the end of RotJ.

Funny point about Kolar though, I'll have to look out for that on my next watch lmao

I'm surprised nobody has said this yet:

ULTIMATE POWAAAAAR!!!!!!

@Murdoch17 said:
"I'm surprised nobody has said this yet:

ULTIMATE POWAAAAAR!!!!!!"
Palps plugging his phone into the charger be like

Surely 75011 has the highest death ratio of any Lego Star Wars set.

@WantedDeadOrAlive said:
"Surely 75011 has the highest death ratio of any Lego Star Wars set."

'I feel a great disturbance in the force. As if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened...'

I had this one as a kid. My friends and I had loads of fun playing with it. When I eventually broke it up, the pieces (especially those large dark red wedge plates) saw lots of use in my childhood MOCs.

@HJB2810:
BTW, there’s another problem with your count. I don’t know about his D-fic fate, but in EU canon (most of) Veers actually survived Hoth, and Endor, and made it into the Dark Empire comics, so that’s 0:2 on named characters. If he survived, there’s a chance the two pilots did as well. And the only Snowtrooper we saw onboard was told to prepare his troops for ground assault. They may not have even been on board at the point Veers ordered the destruction of the generator.

And there’s yet another problem. Luke never attacked Veers’ AT-AT. In the film, Wedge cables one AT-AT, Luke gets shot down by another, Dak gets hugged by an AT-AT foot, Luke grenades probably that same AT-AT, and then immediately after Veers’ AT-AT shoots down another Snwospeeder before taking out the generator. In Lucas’ film canon, the last we ever see of Veers, he’s victorious, and there really isn’t any additional threat to worry about. So this set is basically Schrödinger’s AT-AT. If you put Veers in the cockpit, everyone survives. If you hang Luke from the belly, all the generic troops probably die. If you do both, it turns into an anti-gravity device like a cat with buttered bread strapped to its back.

@CapnRex101:
Yeah, it’s hard to peg FD1, but I wouldn’t count Vader either way. I’m pretty sure there’s a famous quote about mostly dead not being the same as all dead, and Vader left the room only mostly dead. Given a decent miracle, he could have possibly recovered. The Hobbit, and to a lesser extent LotR, may provide a few more with high mortality, depending on which sets certain characters appear in.

@Murdoch17 said:
" @WantedDeadOrAlive said:
"Surely 75011 has the highest death ratio of any Lego Star Wars set."

'I feel a great disturbance in the force. As if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened...'"

“I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of unnamed characters perished inconsequentially, and nobody bothered to count them.”

@PurpleDave said:
" @HJB2810:
BTW, there’s another problem with your count. I don’t know about his D-fic fate, but in EU canon (most of) Veers actually survived Hoth, and Endor, and made it into the Dark Empire comics, so that’s 0:2 on named characters. If he survived, there’s a chance the two pilots did as well. And the only Snowtrooper we saw onboard was told to prepare his troops for ground assault. They may not have even been on board at the point Veers ordered the destruction of the generator.

And there’s yet another problem. Luke never attacked Veers’ AT-AT. In the film, Wedge cables one AT-AT, Luke gets shot down by another, Dak gets hugged by an AT-AT foot, Luke grenades probably that same AT-AT, and then immediately after Veers’ AT-AT shoots down another Snwospeeder before taking out the generator. In Lucas’ film canon, the last we ever see of Veers, he’s victorious, and there really isn’t any additional threat to worry about. So this set is basically Schrödinger’s AT-AT. If you put Veers in the cockpit, everyone survives. If you hang Luke from the belly, all the generic troops probably die. If you do both, it turns into an anti-gravity device like a cat with buttered bread strapped to its back.

@CapnRex101:
Yeah, it’s hard to peg FD1, but I wouldn’t count Vader either way. I’m pretty sure there’s a famous quote about mostly dead not being the same as all dead, and Vader left the room only mostly dead. Given a decent miracle, he could have possibly recovered. The Hobbit, and to a lesser extent LotR, may provide a few more with high mortality, depending on which sets certain characters appear in.

@Murdoch17 said:
" @WantedDeadOrAlive said:
"Surely 75011 has the highest death ratio of any Lego Star Wars set."

'I feel a great disturbance in the force. As if millions of voices cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened...'"

“I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of unnamed characters perished inconsequentially, and nobody bothered to count them.”"

Veers died in a deleted scene from EP5. You can see it under the 'Extras' tab on Disney plus.

@Murdoch17:
There’s another name for deleted scenes. It’s called “scenes that never happened”. If it got cut from the final release, and never got added back into a director’s cut or extended edition, it’s just something they filmed while making the movie, same as any alternate takes that got passed over in favor of what did make it to the big screen.

One caveat to that is that Lucas was very clear about canon hierarchy. If it was in one of the films, it was top level canon. Novelizations and other adaptations of those films, where they didn’t directly contradict the film, were next level canon. EU material, where it didn’t directly contradict either the films or their adaptations, was the lowest level of canon. Deleted scenes didn’t factor in anywhere, so for that scene to mean anything, it would need to be included in the novelization, else the EU says it didn’t happen and there’s no higher authority that says otherwise.

So, I have one printing of the Ep5 novelization. It’s the 24th edition, probably the first to incorporate the Ep5:SE changes. And on p66-67, it does include a scene where Hobbie crashes into Veer’s cockpit, presumably killing everyone inside. So that would seem to contradict any EU material that claims he survived, right? Wrong! Because in the text, this occurs right after Veers tells Vader that the shield will be down soon, as he’s lining up to shoot the generator. So in the novelization, he never takes out their shields, but in the movie we definitely saw it blow up. Film wins over novelization, and the EU stuff is compatible with the film. So Veers is back to surviving the Battle of Hoth.

@Murdoch17 said:
"I'm surprised nobody has said this yet:

ULTIMATE POWAAAAAR!!!!!!"

Nobody's said it because that's not the line. What he said was "UNLIMITED POWAAAAAR!!!!!!"

@CapnRex101 said:
"Anyway, about this set, add my voice to the chorus of those who would love to see it revisited! This would be ideal for the diorama format. However, I actually think the original set is a little overrated, as things like the tiny landing platform and airspeeder are completely superfluous. The minifigure selection is excellent though, as is the actual office.

Incidentally, I find the scene in the film overrated too. Make no mistake, I love Revenge of the Sith and the idea of a scene in which Sidious gets to demonstrate his full power has huge potential, but the execution leaves a lot to be desired. The shot of Agen Kolar inexplicably looking in completely the wrong direction before getting stabbed is one of my least favourite in the saga."

I think it would have been better if the Jedi other actually stuck around longer, for an awesome 4 vs. 1 light saber fight scene.

This was a rare Star Wars set based on a building rather than a vehicle.

A great cast of characters depicted an under-appreciated scene. A great set.

@TheOtherMike said:
" @Murdoch17 said:
"I'm surprised nobody has said this yet:

ULTIMATE POWAAAAAR!!!!!!"

Nobody's said it because that's not the line. What he said was "UNLIMITED POWAAAAAR!!!!!!""

I think I now have to turn in my SW fan card, according to the Multiversal Rules of Fandom-ness.

@CapnRex101:
See, this is a large part of why D-fic gets so little respect. They flushed the EU because it was full of contradictions, only to shovel out even more contradictions within years of that decision. I saw some comments regarding the decision to make the aforementioned deleted scene canon. The problem is, you can't make it fit within the context of the film. Veers' AT-AT gets hit in the cockpit on the way to the generator, only to safely arrive at the generator unscathed and blow it up. There's no way to justify that.

I've just watched a battle analysis that claims someone does crash into a cockpit shortly after Wedge cables the first AT-AT, but I'm not seeing where it happens. If it's true, that was probably supposed to be Veers' AT-AT getting hit in the deleted scene. I've also watched what exists of the deleted scene, and they call out the distance to the main generator right before they're struck, and it's a lot farther away than when they call out the distance just before blowing it up, on top of the fact that they're struck before they ever reach the generator. The deleted scene doesn't fit within the film because the order of events was changed after that scene hit the cutting room floor. Likely, it was decided that the AT-ATs were going down too easily, and that taking out their leader killed the suspense while it should have still been building.

Disney can make whatever claims they want, but there's nothing they can do that will allow them to plug that scene into the film that Lucas released. If they're just echoing the EU canon, and saying that his AT-AT was struck after the generator was taken out, and not the way the deleted scene shows things, that's a different manner, but then they aren't really adding anything that wasn't already there when they bought Lucasfilm.

@CapnRex101 said:
" @PurpleDave - I highly doubt the deleted scene is supposed to be considered canon for all the reasons you mention and more. Like many things borrowed from Legends, I expect the author of a reference book simply decided that would be a fun detail to retain."

Some of the comments I read on one of the videos were complaining that Disney had indeed made the deleted scene canon. I guess the safe bet is that this is all a misunderstanding, but that both the EU and D-fic outcomes probably both ultimately trace back to that deleted scene? That I can accept.