Review: 10352 The Simpsons: Krusty Burger
Posted by CapnRex101,
Various new licensed themes were launched in the 2010s, although few lasted for more than a couple of years, no matter their potential. LEGO Icons provides a welcome opportunity for their return, beginning with The Lord of the Rings and now The Simpsons!
10352 The Simpsons: Krusty Burger is an appealing choice to resume the range, as a regular location in the animated series. Unsurprisingly, this model is packed with references and fun minifigures, although there are certainly some peculiar choices to be discussed.
Summary
10352 The Simpsons: Krusty Burger, 1,635 pieces.
£179.99 / $209.99 / €199.99 | 11.0p/12.8c/12.2c per piece.
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I want to love Krusty Burger and do in places, but there are a number of problems
- Brilliantly detailed interior
- Good interior access
- Lots of fun references
- Some great minifigures
- Odd choice to include Homer's clown car
- Krusty and Sideshow Bob figures could be better
- Overpriced, particularly with so few printed parts
The set was provided for review by LEGO. All opinions expressed are those of the author.
Box and Contents
The Simpsons is a series known for its vibrant animation, intended specifically to stand out on television when flipping between channels. The dark 18+ packaging style is therefore ill-suited for The Simpsons, especially when compared with the other sets. However, I like the teal stripe along the bottom of the box, matching the colour of Krusty's hair.
Inside are twelve numbered bags, a single instruction manual and two sticker sheets, with 42 stickers in total. A few extra printed parts would have been nice instead of stickers, although I assume much of the elements budget was reserved for the newly sculpted heads, so perhaps the number of stickers is understandable.
Minifigures
The previous sets based on The Simpsons established a distinctive style for minifigures, each featuring specialised heads. The same technique is used here and works perfectly for Homer Simpson, whose stubble and few remaining hairs look superb. Homer's famed shirt and blue trousers are accurate too, with a stain to distinguish this version of Homer from his Collectable Minifigure.
Bart Simpson and Lisa Simpson, meanwhile, remain essentially identical to past minifigures. There was no need to alter their head pieces, which look brilliant given the inherent difficulty in translating two-dimensional animation to three dimensions. However, I am surprised that Bart's shirt remains red because reddish orange would probably be more accurate.
Lisa looks perfect though, including a fabric element for the edge of her dress and carrying her saxophone. Homer comes with a Krusty Partially Gelatinated Non-Dairy Gum-Based Beverage, supposedly dubbed a 'shake' in some regions, while Bart is equipped with his slingshot.
Krusty the Clown is included, of course, albeit dressed as a farmer. This costume is based on the season twenty episode Coming to Homerica and I suppose the unique design is interesting, though far from iconic. Also, a decade has passed since Krusty last appeared in LEGO form, so lots of people buying Krusty Burger will not own his more recognisable minifigure. Even so, the farmer costume is well executed.
Much more appealing is Sideshow Bob, Krusty's former assistant and now murderous enemy. Unfortunately for Bob, his plans tend to fall foul of Bart, so he has never successfully murdered anyone. The character's wild hairstyle looks amazing here, especially when viewed directly from in front or behind, where its intricate texture is most effective.
However, Sideshow Bob's neck is relatively thin onscreen, which a minifigure cannot replicate because the neck peg on the torso has to be a certain width. The proportions of the head thus look quite strange and maybe not instantly recognisable as Bob, other than the hair. The figure comes with a custard pie to throw, while Krusty carries a pitchfork.
The ubiquitous Squeaky-Voiced Teen makes the jump from animation to minifigure form with remarkable ease, as the head captures his hairstyle and acne faithfully. In addition, the simple hat and uniform look good, though I think the stripy Krusty Burger uniform from earlier seasons is arguably more famous.
My favourite minifigure is Officer Lou, whose presence was likely prompted by his memorable contribution to 22 Short Films About Springfield, describing his experience at a bizarre clone of Krusty Burger in neighbouring Shelbyville, known as McDonald's. The head sculpt is not entirely faultless, as I think the hat should be a little bigger, but it still includes plenty of detail.
Lou's uniform looks excellent too, though it does not match Chief Wiggum's earlier minifigures, which printed the belt on the hips. I prefer the new design, so hopefully we receive an updated Wiggum to match in the near future, plus Officer Eddie. Lou is provided with a coffee cup, while the Squeaky-Voiced Teen is on cleaning duty with a mop.
The Completed Model
71006 The Simpsons House and 71016 The Kwik-E-Mart each include cars and the tradition continues here, with a new rendition of Homer's pink sedan. A darker shade of pink has been used on this occasion, but the most dramatic change is obviously the clown livery, inspired by season six's Homie the Clown, in which Homer becomes a Krusty impersonator.
Like most episodes from the early years of The Simpsons, Homer's dalliance with clowning is memorable, but I am surprised the designers chose to include his car from the episode, which appears only briefly. Nonetheless, the lurid colour scheme is striking and I like the crude image of Krusty mounted on the front, complete with accurate pieces of tape!
One of the episode's more famous moments is Homer's addition of speed holes to the bonnet, after a car salesman assures him bullet holes in a car are a deliberate feature to make the car faster. I am delighted to see these here, represented by stickers. Moreover, the brick-built dent and aerial look superb.
The teal and lime green stripes on the car correspond with the original episode, but the gaps around the stickers applied on each side are unfortunate. Also, the open roof is far from ideal, but essential to accommodate the huge heads of many characters and especially Marge's hair.
Jumper plates maximise the space to seat and stand minifigures inside, so there is just about enough room for Homer, Bart and Lisa. However, they only just fit and Bart's head is awkward, as its backwards tilt means his minifigure needs to be moved forward, otherwise it would collide with the rear windscreen.
The rear lights and boot look good and the latter opens, which is important for reasons we will discuss later. I was wondering whether it is possible to replace the teal and lime green parts to return the car to its normal state and you nearly can. 2x6 tiles are available in dark pink and the wheel arches will be soon, found in 77241 2 Fast 2 Furious Honda S2000, but the 2x3 tile with clips has yet to appear in pink.
Springfield has several Krusty Burger locations and no two are identical, but they do generally share the same colours and separate signage. The design is instantly recognisable with those onscreen, although the set would perhaps feel more cohesive if the sign was actually attached directly beside the restaurant.
Regardless, I am impressed with the Krusty Burger sign. The base is very basic, but matches locations from the animated series and feels wholly stable. The stickered notice directing cars out of the car park or drive-through is a welcome addition too.
Dark orange is a fitting colour choice for the burger and I love the use of 1x2 rounded tiles for Krusty the Clown's fingers, wrapped around the sides. Krusty's face is excellent as well, using the cloud-shaped pieces created for Monkie Kid as frizzy hair. Unusually, the instructions show the stickers deliberately applied off-centre for the eyes, recreating Krusty's bizarre gaze.
The reverse of the sign is not finished as neatly as I would hope, but at least its colours do not look wholly out of place. Still, it is a shame the reddish brown plates were not produced in dark orange to keep everything symmetrical.
Krusty Burger is slightly unusual among buildings in The Simpsons, lacking a strongly defined front. There are advantages to this, as detail is evenly spread across three sides, although the buildings with a distinctive façade are perhaps easier to translate to LEGO form, as the likes of the Simpsons' house and the Kwik-E-Mart have already demonstrated.
The entrance is relatively plain, though accurate to the animated series. The double doors are effective and I like the stickered sign, based on one featured in various episodes. Furthermore, the bin outside the door is nicely designed using a 2x2x2 container, again matching those seen around Krusty Burger outlets in the show.
Trees and bushes in The Simpsons are usually animated with basic shapes, so I love how the bushes are assembled with rounded plates and tiles. This combination of smooth and studded surfaces looks brilliant and I am impressed with the windows above too, featuring lavender and orange frames.
Details are sparse on the back, but those included are some of my favourite references in the set. Nonetheless, I think adding a dumpster or the like would have been useful to break up an otherwise uniformly tan wall.
The first sticker features an example of Bart's 'El Barto' graffiti underneath a couple of bumper stickers relating to Sideshow Bob. One promotes his mayoral campaign from season six while the other shows Bob's true nemesis: a rake! Sadly, there is no minifigure-scale rake accessory, but this would have been a great opportunity to make one.
Another sticker queries the whereabouts of the Krusty Burglar, inspired by arguably the most famous scene from Homie the Clown. "Stop! Stop! He's already dead!" is all I need say!
Continuing around the exterior, we find the delivery entrance and Krusty Burger's grease trap. This feature originates from Lard of the Dance, a season ten episode in which Homer starts a grease business and collects from a Krusty Burger, shovelling grease into the back of Marge's car. Homer's car will have to suffice in this set, hence the need for an opening boot.
The order system is another highlight, again incorporating curved tiles to create Krusty's white gloves wrapped around the machine. Moreover, the clown's face and speaker look superb and the menus provide extra detail, mirroring their style in modern episodes of The Simpsons.
The serving window corresponds with the front door and side windows, including lavender and orange frames. The windows open as normal and I like the bollards beneath, especially as one has obviously been knocked out of place, which is a neat detail to show Krusty Burger's shabby state.
Krusty Burger's roof is quite similar to the Kwik-E-Mart onscreen, but this model uses a totally different building technique to 71016 The Kwik-E-Mart, comprising angled plates. The result is very effective and I like how the corners are designed in particular, so potential gaps are closed.
Otherwise, the rooftop is rather bland, which is perhaps a little disappointing after 71016 The Kwik-E-Mart. Though there is nothing specific I would expect to find up here, the space could have been used to store past promotional materials, perhaps including a reference to Krusty's disastrous offer during the 1984 Olympic Games or the restaurant's time as IRS Burger.
Instead, there is only a rooftop fan unit, appropriately located above the kitchen, as well as the opening access hatch. There is no absolute need for anything else, but something to add extra colour would have been welcome.
The whole roof panel is easily removable, revealing a busy interior. I am glad we can view the interior in this format and see everything together, but the opening wall panels are required for proper access. Fortunately, the model is designed for exactly that and opens into three sections, as shown below.
The dining area is incredibly colourful, exactly as presented in more modern episodes of The Simpsons, as older episodes tend to have more variation. The lavender and aqua tiles on the floor are perfect and I love their contrast with the seats. Of course, a couple more tables would have been appreciated, but I think the available space is used efficiently.
For instance, a bin and two sauce dispensers are tucked in the corner, with another sticker for extra detail. This is certainly not an ideal location for sauces, but seems exactly like something Krusty Burger would do!
Though benches are more common throughout the series, some Krusty Burger locations have curved booths beside the windows. I am pleased to find an example here, cleverly constructed with angled sections and 1x2 ingots, which work brilliantly as textured backrests. There is room for three minifigures around the booth, though Bart and Lisa cannot sit, given their short legs.
Also, the tables and chairs in the middle of the restaurant look good, featuring flame yellowish orange trays on top. Pearl gold claws form realistic fries and the Ribwich on the table near the entrance makes great use of roller skates for the mysterious, seemingly addictive, meat inside.
Recent episodes have occasionally shown Krusty Burger with a children's play area inside, so the LEGO model contains one too. Though not an essential addition, this is a welcome feature for variety, as the space would otherwise be taken by more seats. The colourful ball pit inside is attractive, consisting of Technic balls.
Alongside the ball pit is a poster advertising the Mother Nature Burger, again originating from Coming to Homerica and featuring Krusty dressed as a farmer. The poster looks nice, but like with Krusty's minifigure, I wish the designer had drawn from a more noteworthy episode.
I like how the counter and kitchen area are configured, leaving lots of space for minifigures to queue when the building is open. Moreover, the overhead menu board is mounted on the wall with clips, so it can rotate out of the way for easier access to pose characters inside the kitchen.
The actual menu is surprisingly consistent across the series. While this particular design most closely matches the board from Coming to Homerica, details like the free slide whistle with the Krusty Kids Meal can be seen as far back as season five. However, I wish the milkshakes were listed as Krusty Partially Gelatinated Non-Dairy Gum-Based Beverages, in accordance with 22 Short Films about Springfield.
Given the presence of some sort of vegetable inside the burgers, which is a rare occurrence at Krusty Burger, I expect these are intended to be Mother Nature Burgers. They look splendid on the whole, although I miss the printed 2x2 sliders serving as buns in Scooby-Doo sets.
The cash registers include two Easter eggs. The number 6.15 refers to the fifteenth episode of season six, Homie the Clown, while 847.63 is the amount shown when Maggie passes through the till in the classic opening sequence. This was the estimated monthly cost of raising a child in the US when The Simpsons began in 1989.
The ice cream machine in the kitchen is nicely assembled, using a small propeller as a cooling fan inside. The stickered box of long-expired coleslaw is a fun inclusion as well, briefly featured in the season eight episode Lisa's Date with Density and containing a green 1x1 round tile.
Against the neighbouring wall are the fryer and grill. Both appear simple at first glance, but the fryer in particular is cleverly designed because the basket can actually be removed. In addition, the grille is adorned with a sticker alluding to the boxer Drederick Tatum, in reference to the real George Foreman grille.
The final section is divided between the bathroom and the serving area for the drive-through. Neither space is very easily accessible and an argument could thus be made for omitting the bathroom. Maybe the order preparation counter seen when Grampa Simpson works at Krusty Burger should have been included instead, although I think the bathroom is fine.
After all, you can still position minifigures in these narrow spaces. The greater problem arises when attempting to examine certain details, such as the Buzz Cola dispenser, microwave and order screen above the serving window.
The latter makes reference to the season five's Boy-Scoutz 'n the Hood and its ending, when Homer, Bart, Ned and Rod are lost at sea, until they encounter an offshore oil rig inexplicably served by its own Krusty Burger. Homer famously bursts through the doors and demands 700 Krusty Burgers!
Another sticker is applied on the bathroom door, alongside an advertisement for the Ribwich. I like how the burger's mascot' Rib-It, has been turned into a minifigure for this poster, unlike the illustrations on the bathroom door, which is slightly disappointing.
The stickered notice board on the side of the bathroom provides a little extra detail. However, I think there was a missed opportunity here, given this board is specifically identified as a Krusty Brand product, but lacks any of their standard problems. A simple misspelling would suffice, like 'Notice Bored'.
You can remove this wall panel to access the bathroom. Once again, there is limited space to play inside and certain details are not easily visible without partially disassembling other walls, which is a shame.
For example, the flooded bathroom floor and damaged mirror can only really be seen through the door and even that is tricky. However, my favourite feature is clearly visible from all angles, as a tan Technic pin forms an empty toilet roll tube! The toilet and sink look nice as well, so the whole bathroom is impressively detailed.
Overall
I am a huge fan of The Simpsons and delighted to have the LEGO theme back, so I am biased in favour of 10352 The Simpsons: Krusty Burger. Nonetheless, I have mixed feelings about this set. The exterior is not particularly interesting relative to other Springfield locations and including Homer's clown car and Krusty dressed as a farmer seem like strange decisions.
On the other hand, I enjoy the various references, most of the minifigures are excellent and the interior is highly detailed, albeit fairly reliant on stickers. However, there are too many issues for the price of £179.99, $209.99 or €199.99 and I find Krusty Burger a little underwhelming, despite my continued excitement for any future sets based on The Simpsons.
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I'm impressed by how many features of a typical fast food joint it packs into a relatively small footprint. I'm not impressed by the stickers or the price.
Given the set contains Homer's Clown car...it begs why was Homie the Clown and the Krusty Burglar minifigs not included.
Ça n'a pas l'air mal, mais je ferais l'impasse dessus. Je ne suis pas fan des Simpsons et surtout des sets à acquérir en retard plus dans mes désirs.
There are a lot of strange decisions made with this set, maybe they might make sense if the Krusty Burger had been released in the same time frame as the other Simpson sets and the CMF series.
But seeing it as it is now, and with the other sets so hard to get, I would say this is a pass for me.
Oh my, the stickers...
And oh no, GRAFFITI!!! Won't somebody please think of the children?!?
Honestly, the sheer level of detail through most of this set is exemplary. Stickers may be annoying, but they do look fantastic here. Plus some new characters, and whilst the clown car may be a little odd, at least I can re-enact one of my favourite jokes, the crash into Milhouse's drive. Please Lego, let this be the start of a great embiggening of your Simpsons range.
As a lifelong Simpsons fan since 1990, I've been meaning to increase my Lego Simpsons collection since I've replunged back into it but the Kwik-E-Mart is far too dear so instead I've been waiting to eventually get all the right pieces and built it myself with my own bricks. But this Krusty Burger is incredibly detailed and despite the jarring odd choices made with some aspects of this set, I'm more than happy to get it after the drop in price following the advice of my inner Professor Frink. The launch price tag makes me shudder like Mr. Burns but the Otto in me says "Far out design man! Burn that money!"
They included the clown car as a reference to those who set the price (and will buy it at full price!)
Having been a fanboy since the late night Tracy Ullman watch parties with my fraternal brethren; the LEGO introduction in 2014 proved a no brainer. As you mentioned Cap’n, the value pitfalls are unfortunate; but not enough to impede the expansion of Springfield in my glass cabinet. Thanks once again for your honest and thorough rearview D’oh!
IP tax and new, large (for a minifigure) custom head molds are no doubt the main cost drivers here. Not saying the result shouldn't be criticized, but those two factors no doubt are why the price is as high as it is and there are so many stickers instead of prints. That said, very nicely detailed and fun-looking set - but wow, 41 stickers... yikes.
42 stickers!!!!!! Thats a hard pass for me.
I'm the target demographic for this set, but I'd prefer the Krusty Krab and a return of SpongeBob minifigures instead.
I'll wait.
Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this.
Still think Skinner should’ve been a no-brainer inclusion, considering the episode “Steamed Hams” is a part of is already referenced a few times.
Though not cheap, it can never be too much d’oh with a Simpsons set.
I knew this review would come someday.
I’ve been waiting on this series revival for nearly a decade now. This set has its shortcomings, but it’s an easy day 1 purchase for me. Can’t wait!
@norco_kid said:
"Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this."
even if no afol bought this. Simpsons is still too popular, will sell great.
I really like this set and I definitely would try to buy it if I was a Simpsons fan.
Such a cool set, I don't have any complaints.
I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set.
@missedoutagain said:
" @norco_kid said:
"Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this."
even if no afol bought this. Simpsons is still too popular, will sell great."
I'm not sure.. Why would non AFOLs find the price any more reasonable?
Although I'm sure new moulds impact the price of a new set or theme, I'm starting to wonder if that reasoning is leaned on a little too much by the community.
A company of Lego's size surely has some built-in budgeting for new moulds per year that is easily absorbed over some period of time from their massive profits beyond just the specific sets in which the new molds are used.
In addition to general budget considerations, I'm sure Lego's mould making process is optimized down to the last penny (krone?) since they are creating many new ones every year.
@missedoutagain said:
" @norco_kid said:
"Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this."
even if no afol bought this. Simpsons is still too popular, will sell great."
Exactly. The negative obsession with stickers and 'head in the sand' attitude that Lego isn't expensive will not be reflected in the real world. This will sell well.
me an American reading bonnet and boot in relation to the car and being utterly confused
anyway great review lol ;)
@norco_kid said:
"Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this."
Yeah, I hope the complete opposite. I hope it sells well and encourages The LEGO Group to bring out a Simpsons set every year, and maybe another CMF series.
And I do think it will sell well to the non-AFOL crowd too. Simpsons merch is still popular and I’m seeing a lot of excitement about it around.
Anyway, great review with lots of pickups on the references! I would have preferred Marge’s car instead of a reskin of Homer’s car, but at least it’s something different.
Okay with all the comments on price and stickers etc. set aside. Please let this be the start of more Simpsons sets.
Maggie and Marge with the Orange Station Wagon?
Maybe with a Canyonero
Springfield Nuclear “Panner” Plant?
The Android's Dungeon?
Bart’s Tree House?
Springfield Elementary?
More Simpsons content please Lego! {:()]
I'd love to see some comparison pictures between this and the original 2 sets, in particular the Kwik-E-Mart. Interestingly the RRP for the Krusty Burger is the same as was the Kwik-E-Mart, but with approx 500 less pieces.
No mention to the lack of doors in Homer's car?
Is is possible to get picture of this set next to the previous sets? Really curious as to how they compare.
Most of the sets look great with black box but not all of them! LEGO stubbornly use black box because of "18+" label, when Simpsons connects with bright colours, like bright sky from opening theme.
Idea of closed building with option to open is great (just like at Kwik). I'm fine with one side build and car. Price bothers me, because set is relatively small and can't justify it with minifigs, since half of them are using old molds!
For me it's the same case like I had with X-mansion: I used to watch show, I do have some nostalgia for it but set is just fine without any "WOW" effect for very special price. Sadly easy pass for me.
Oh, and gwp is a joke, good that you forgot to mention.
@ToysFromTheAttic said:
"Oh my, the stickers...
And oh no, GRAFFITI!!! Won't somebody please think of the children?!?"
It's 18+ rated set after all.
@B_Space_Man said:
"Although I'm sure new moulds impact the price of a new set or theme, I'm starting to wonder if that reasoning is leaned on a little too much by the community.
A company of Lego's size surely has some built-in budgeting for new moulds per year that is easily absorbed over some period of time from their massive profits beyond just the specific sets in which the new molds are used.
In addition to general budget considerations, I'm sure Lego's mould making process is optimized down to the last penny (krone?) since they are creating many new ones every year."
Nope. They've let slip that it costs as much to maintain a mold for five years as it does to cut a new one, and they've been fairly open about a self-imposed rule on how many molds they're allowed to keep in active production. Every year the heads of each department get together and figure out which new molds need to be produced, and which should be scrapped. It's been nearly a decade since the last Simpsons set, so there's no way any of those molds survived this long. That means, instead of four new molds, they had to make seven. And at least two of those are unlikely to ever see use again.
When determining part budgets, they now factor in the lifespan of a mold. If the plan is currently to scrap these seven molds once this set goes out of production, this set has to pay for them, so their cost per shot is much higher than it would be for molds they expect to run into the ground. Themes that use lots of IP-locked, single-use molds are necessarily going to cost more, as every set needs to pay its way, and ideally turn a profit. Molds that end up being used by other themes may have their costs recalculated based on a longer expected lifespan of the mold, but just covering mold production out of the general operating budget is how they ended up in such financial problems two decades ago. Any theme was able to order new molds, and many of these molds lost them a lot of money that wasn't recouped by the themes that requested them.
When you see people complaining about how expensive a certain theme is, or throwing around terms like "Disney tax", start looking at how many one-off and theme-specific molds they're putting in those sets, and the high prices might make more sense.
A bit small, and some odd choices (weird car, weird Krusty, weird base), and too much stickers (especially to make the krusties on multiple tiles, or his eyes), but for the rest it really looks good.
Figs look great as well
One thing I am really unhappy about is the style of packaging that doesn't fit with the earlier two. Those were awesome and fitting for the theme. Colourful, like straight out of the comic/cartoon.
The new black designless style of packaging is ugly and unfitting on almost every new set (as are the plain white designless instructions) to begin with, but particularly on this, where it totally destroys the look imho.
Sich a missed opportunity to make this fit into the existing Simpsons range.
@norco_kid said:
" @missedoutagain said:
" @norco_kid said:
"Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this."
even if no afol bought this. Simpsons is still too popular, will sell great."
I'm not sure.. Why would non AFOLs find the price any more reasonable?"
I think AFOLs have quite a different impression of value compared with other adults buying LEGO. We often take many factors into consideration, such as the piece count, unique parts and minifigures and comparisons with other sets. I get the impression that more casual fans tend to have fewer considerations, potentially limited to whether they like a set, whether they can accommodate it and whether they can afford it. Perception of value is obviously a factor too, but likely not as complex as an AFOL's perception of value.
For instance, we look at the minifigures and immediately notice there are seven new pieces, which are going to contribute to the price. I realise some are returning elements, but after ten years, they will all be considered new. Most people are not going to be thinking about things like that.
@lluisgib said:
"No mention to the lack of doors in Homer's car? "
Working doors would be nice, but including them would add more breaks in the stickers along the sides of the car, so I think their absence is a fair compromise.
I just don’t get the whole point of releasing a Simpsons set 10 years after the last one, without re-releasing The Simpsons House and Kwik-E-Mart.
@merman said:
"I just don’t get the whole point of releasing a Simpsons set 10 years after the last one, without re-releasing The Simpsons House and Kwik-E-Mart. "
Besides the fact if they can remake old molds still. Same way pieces, figures ect it has been 10 years i heard.
my main reply is though if ever re-released a set?
I do not think so.
@norco_kid said:
" @missedoutagain said:
" @norco_kid said:
"Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this."
even if no afol bought this. Simpsons is still too popular, will sell great."
I'm not sure.. Why would non AFOLs find the price any more reasonable?"
Price? Who cares about price for regular folk? When the kid is whinning(sarcastic) about wanting set example christmas ect. Or grandparents or others getting it as a gift. Most know lego is expensive but great quality they buy anyways. Who besides afols know price lego should be.......
People go grocery store pay like $4-$5 for a bottle soda that costs $2 on sale... or pay double or tripple for an item...
Besides the point Simpsons is what 36 years old... Most will be buying for nostalgia
@lego4elio said:"me an American reading bonnet and boot in relation to the car and being utterly confused"
Me, also American but a huge Anglophile not even noticing.
@missedoutagain said:
" @merman said:
"I just don’t get the whole point of releasing a Simpsons set 10 years after the last one, without re-releasing The Simpsons House and Kwik-E-Mart. "
Besides the fact if they can remake old molds still. Same way pieces, figures ect it has been 10 years i heard.
my main reply is though if ever re-released a set?
I do not think so."
Plenty of sets have been re-released, but I don't think many (if any at all) of those required them to cut new molds because the old ones had been destroyed.
One word: PRICE!!!
GReat set, shame about price and that horribly designed car...
WHy they havent used Speed Champions piece????
@TheOtherMike said:
" @lego4elio said:"me an American reading bonnet and boot in relation to the car and being utterly confused"
Me, also American but a huge Anglophile not even noticing."
Me, also American, but resigned to the fact that they're never going to fix it.
"Plenty of sets have been re-released, but I don't think many (if any at all) of those required them to cut new molds because the old ones had been destroyed."
The 10021 rerelease of 398 had to sub in other parts because the original 1x1x1 windows were no longer in production. I don't know offhand of any other instances where subs were made, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more.
Gotta say I’m a bit disappointed we aren’t getting the house as that set costs a fortune these days. But our 3rd new Lord of the Rings set was a return to Bag End so perhaps The Simpsons will follow a similar pattern. Regardless, no point in me buying this set when I don’t have the house or Marge or Maggie. And even if I owned the house, and Kwik E Mart, this set just isn’t visually appealing.
I think the designers did a fantastic job designing the Krusty Burger! The exterior looks perfectly on point, even the sign should be a separate like it is. I think the size is also correct, as fast food buildings are smaller in size than other buildings. The interior looks great, packed with so many details. They could've added road plates for the drive thru, like they do in the city sets. But they are easily added. I'm so glad they included the clown car too; the colors are bright & spot on.
The price may be high, but it's not as expensive as the other two sets felt at that time. This is a day one purchase! It will look great added to my Simpson collection.
The promo living room set, is perfect to me. As I have a Simpsons artwork version of my family sitting on that couch. I'll just need to add my family figs to it.
@missedoutagain said:
"my main reply is though if ever re-released a set?
I do not think so."
Taj Mahal. Black Seas Barracuda. Enchanted Island. Armada Flagship. Red Beard Runner. Technic Race Truck. City Corner. Burj Khalifa. X-wing (original). Billund Airport. Ship in a Bottle. Saturn V. Elsa's Castle.
@missedoutagain said:
"Price? Who cares about price for regular folk? When the kid is whinning(sarcastic) about wanting set example christmas ect. Or grandparents or others getting it as a gift. Most know lego is expensive but great quality they buy anyways. Who besides afols know price lego should be.......
People go grocery store pay like $4-$5 for a bottle soda that costs $2 on sale... or pay double or tripple for an item...
Besides the point Simpsons is what 36 years old... Most will be buying for nostalgia"
AFOLs don't know what the price should be. AFOLs are not one, they are a range of people with different ideas. And even then, they might know what they want to pay, but not what the price should be. The price should be what LEGO thinks it will sell for.
Personally I find LEGO expensive these days as it now costs a lot more than about 10-15 years ago when sets were frequently clearanced and long before adult sets came along. But LEGO has changed. It is now way more popular and we have a much larger range of sets available and they have become much larger and of course prices have gone up.
As for nostalgia, most adult sets are based on nostalgia. I don't see the issue there.
@merman said:
"I just don’t get the whole point of releasing a Simpsons set 10 years after the last one, without re-releasing The Simpsons House and Kwik-E-Mart. "
I imagine it is the first and they will do more if it is successful. This appeals to new buyers and long time LEGO fans that bought the house and Kwik-E-Mart. Whereas a re-release of one of the older sets might have a smaller audience.
The size is ok in comparison with the Simpson House, I think Kwik E-Mart is a little bit too small though.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @norco_kid said:
" @missedoutagain said:
" @norco_kid said:
"Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this."
even if no afol bought this. Simpsons is still too popular, will sell great."
I'm not sure.. Why would non AFOLs find the price any more reasonable?"
I think AFOLs have quite a different impression of value compared with other adults buying LEGO. We often take many factors into consideration, such as the piece count, unique parts and minifigures and comparisons with other sets. I get the impression that more casual fans tend to have fewer considerations, potentially limited to whether they like a set, whether they can accommodate it and whether they can afford it. Perception of value is obviously a factor too, but likely not as complex as an AFOL's perception of value.
For instance, we look at the minifigures and immediately notice there are seven new pieces, which are going to contribute to the price. I realise some are returning elements, but after ten years, they will all be considered new. Most people are not going to be thinking about things like that."
Lego has always been an inconceivably expensive toy. That's part of its perceived value to AFOLs as well as the general public. It's European, supposedly made of the best without regard for expense. Each piece is hand-molded, buffed, and kissed by Great Grandmother Kristiansen working tirelessly by candlelight in a thatched Scandinavian cottage. (apologies JANG)
As AFOLs, we follow this inflation progression with increasingly bitter anguish dependant in direct correlation to how long you've been an AFOL.
Most other people newly drawn to Lego merely shrug their shoulders and buy the one product that catches their fancy. They're under no conceived pressure to buy more or establish a collection. They understand that Lego is expensive, but it doesn't make them grind their teeth or stamp in fury.
@PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @lego4elio said:"me an American reading bonnet and boot in relation to the car and being utterly confused"
Me, also American but a huge Anglophile not even noticing."
Me, also American, but resigned to the fact that they're never going to fix it."
Me, feeling like 'a bit in the boot' doesn't have the panache of 'junk in da' trunk.'
@MusiMus said:
" @ToysFromTheAttic said:
"Oh my, the stickers...
And oh no, GRAFFITI!!! Won't somebody please think of the children?!?"
It's 18+ rated set after all."
It was a nod to both a previous article's thread and a well-known Simpsons episode. ;-)
@PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @lego4elio said:"me an American reading bonnet and boot in relation to the car and being utterly confused"
Me, also American but a huge Anglophile not even noticing."
Me, also American, but resigned to the fact that they're never going to fix it.
"Plenty of sets have been re-released, but I don't think many (if any at all) of those required them to cut new molds because the old ones had been destroyed."
The 10021 rerelease of 398 had to sub in other parts because the original 1x1x1 windows were no longer in production. I don't know offhand of any other instances where subs were made, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more."
Was it the old window piece with the glued-in pane, or something else?
@CCC saif:" @missedoutagain said:
"my main reply is though if ever re-released a set?
I do not think so."
Taj Mahal. Black Seas Barracuda. Enchanted Island. Armada Flagship. Red Beard Runner. Technic Race Truck. City Corner. Burj Khalifa. X-wing (original). Billund Airport. Ship in a Bottle. Saturn V. Elsa's Castle. "
Not to mention the whole Legends line. And the X-Wing wasn't the only original starfighter set to get a re-release, the TIE Fighter & Y-Wing did too! (The Y-Wing is my favorite Star Wars starfighter, so I can't let that one go.)
@StyleCounselor said:
" As AFOLs, we follow this inflation progression with increasingly bitter anguish dependant in direct correlation to how long you've been an AFOL.
Most other people newly drawn to Lego merely shrug their shoulders and buy the one product that catches their fancy. They're under no conceived pressure to buy more or establish a collection. They understand that Lego is expensive, but it doesn't make them grind their teeth or stamp in fury."
This is a really good point. Most of the reason that I don’t want to support this set is because I’m concerned of the impact good sales will have on future prices/standards. TLG is constantly testing the limits of how much they can charge for how little they can give and I don't want this to become the new benchmark. If i didn’t care about ever buying another Lego set I would feel much less strongly.
@TheOtherMike said:
" @PurpleDave said:
"The 10021 rerelease of 398 had to sub in other parts because the original 1x1x1 windows were no longer in production. I don't know offhand of any other instances where subs were made, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more."
Was it the old window piece with the glued-in pane, or something else?"
The 1x1x1 window never had glass at all, but yes, it was that same style of frame. They subbed in headlight bricks as the closest approximation.
@shaase said:
"Given the set contains Homer's Clown car...it begs why was Homie the Clown and the Krusty Burglar minifigs not included."
If they actually included the figures to recreate the "He's already dead!" scene, it would be an instant buy.
Yes, how are the set dimensions?
@WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now.
I never would have thought to use a red roller-skate like that! Genius and madness :o)
@Ottozone said:
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
I think a Springfield Elementary would be the next logical set, in terms of sheer location prominence. I feel like the school's design could also be reasonably approximated in an X-mansion sized set. Including a school bus would be a no-brainer, picking which minifigs it should come with would be tougher.
Skinner
Chalmers
Otto
Lunchlady Doris
Ripped Willy
We'd probably get another Bart because his inclusion is usually mandatory. A Ralph variant is also likely (paste-eating, or a different expression). After that, Jimbo Jones, Uter, Wendell and Sherri and Terri all seem like good candidates. I'd prefer even minor characters like Wendell to another Milhouse or Martin variant.
@TheOtherMike said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @lego4elio said:"me an American reading bonnet and boot in relation to the car and being utterly confused"
Me, also American but a huge Anglophile not even noticing."
Me, also American, but resigned to the fact that they're never going to fix it.
"Plenty of sets have been re-released, but I don't think many (if any at all) of those required them to cut new molds because the old ones had been destroyed."
The 10021 rerelease of 398 had to sub in other parts because the original 1x1x1 windows were no longer in production. I don't know offhand of any other instances where subs were made, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more."
Was it the old window piece with the glued-in pane, or something else?
@CCC saif:" @missedoutagain said:
"my main reply is though if ever re-released a set?
I do not think so."
Taj Mahal. Black Seas Barracuda. Enchanted Island. Armada Flagship. Red Beard Runner. Technic Race Truck. City Corner. Burj Khalifa. X-wing (original). Billund Airport. Ship in a Bottle. Saturn V. Elsa's Castle. "
Not to mention the whole Legends line. And the X-Wing wasn't the only original starfighter set to get a re-release, the TIE Fighter & Y-Wing did too! (The Y-Wing is my favorite Star Wars starfighter, so I can't let that one go.)"
are those exact re-release's lets say one from 2010 and same thing for 2025? Instead of different pieces for a Y-wing? Marvel,DC, Star wars keep making different versions same thing.
@missedoutagain said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @lego4elio said:"me an American reading bonnet and boot in relation to the car and being utterly confused"
Me, also American but a huge Anglophile not even noticing."
Me, also American, but resigned to the fact that they're never going to fix it.
"Plenty of sets have been re-released, but I don't think many (if any at all) of those required them to cut new molds because the old ones had been destroyed."
The 10021 rerelease of 398 had to sub in other parts because the original 1x1x1 windows were no longer in production. I don't know offhand of any other instances where subs were made, but it wouldn't surprise me if there were more."
Was it the old window piece with the glued-in pane, or something else?
@CCC saif:" @missedoutagain said:
"my main reply is though if ever re-released a set?
I do not think so."
Taj Mahal. Black Seas Barracuda. Enchanted Island. Armada Flagship. Red Beard Runner. Technic Race Truck. City Corner. Burj Khalifa. X-wing (original). Billund Airport. Ship in a Bottle. Saturn V. Elsa's Castle. "
Not to mention the whole Legends line. And the X-Wing wasn't the only original starfighter set to get a re-release, the TIE Fighter & Y-Wing did too! (The Y-Wing is my favorite Star Wars starfighter, so I can't let that one go.)"
are those exact re-release's lets say one from 2010 and same thing for 2025? Instead of different pieces for a Y-wing? Marvel,DC, Star wars keep making different versions same thing."
The ones I listed were direct copies, at most possibly a very small change as for Saturn V.
@Ottozone said:
" @WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
Just a slight edit.
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a NICE BUT AFFORDABLE Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
@norco_kid said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
" As AFOLs, we follow this inflation progression with increasingly bitter anguish dependant in direct correlation to how long you've been an AFOL.
Most other people newly drawn to Lego merely shrug their shoulders and buy the one product that catches their fancy. They're under no conceived pressure to buy more or establish a collection. They understand that Lego is expensive, but it doesn't make them grind their teeth or stamp in fury."
This is a really good point. Most of the reason that I don’t want to support this set is because I’m concerned of the impact good sales will have on future prices/standards. TLG is constantly testing the limits of how much they can charge for how little they can give and I don't want this to become the new benchmark. If i didn’t care about ever buying another Lego set I would feel much less strongly.
"
Every Lego set I purchase is either on sale or has a really good GWP that is the equivalent of a good sale.
I love Matt Goering. I read Life in Hell all the time in college. I remember when Simpsons debuted as part of the Tracy Ullman Show. However, I haven't been a big Simpsons fan since Futurama came out. Nevertheless, I get a really big laugh at how horrible this set's GWP is.
@yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
Just a slight edit.
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a NICE BUT AFFORDABLE Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
"
No, I don't care about affordibility. I care about Lego making the best product regardless of cost. LEGO, we NEED a $400+ Springfield Elementary!!!
@Ottozone said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
Just a slight edit.
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a NICE BUT AFFORDABLE Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
"
No, I don't care about affordibility. I care about Lego making the best product regardless of cost. LEGO, we NEED a $400+ Springfield Elementary!!!"
I wish I had your budget. :o(
@yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
Just a slight edit.
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a NICE BUT AFFORDABLE Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
"
No, I don't care about affordibility. I care about Lego making the best product regardless of cost. LEGO, we NEED a $400+ Springfield Elementary!!!"
I wish I had your budget. :o("
Based on your collection you have a much bigger budget than me! You can shell out $400+ for a spectacular Springfield Elementary Lego set :o)
Ghosh those stickers....what a f**** joke!!!!
@Ottozone said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
Just a slight edit.
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a NICE BUT AFFORDABLE Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
"
No, I don't care about affordibility. I care about Lego making the best product regardless of cost. LEGO, we NEED a $400+ Springfield Elementary!!!"
What would you need in this set? We already have Bart, Lisa, Milhouse, Nelson, Ralph, Martin, Willie and Edna. Of course we need Skinner and Chalmers would be nice. They could do Otto with a school bus but with the drugs link he is even more unlikely than them doing Moe or Barney in a set. I don’t think Jimbo, Dolph and Kearney would be that high priority or the other kids. I'd also prefer to see a smaller school than a Rivendell sized building. I imagine that a large set would repeat at least Edna and Willie figures and no doubt Milhouse, Ralph and Martin (of course even a small set is likely to duplicate Bart and Lisa). Small sets can often be combined into something larger if you want a big set so for the build itself I'd prefer small where you buy two or three and extend it to the size you want
@CCC said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
Just a slight edit.
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a NICE BUT AFFORDABLE Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
"
No, I don't care about affordibility. I care about Lego making the best product regardless of cost. LEGO, we NEED a $400+ Springfield Elementary!!!"
What would you need in this set? We already have Bart, Lisa, Milhouse, Nelson, Ralph, Martin, Willie and Edna. Of course we need Skinner and Chalmers would be nice. They could do Otto with a school bus but with the drugs link he is even more unlikely than them doing Moe or Barney in a set. I don’t think Jimbo, Dolph and Kearney would be that high priority or the other kids. I'd also prefer to see a smaller school than a Rivendell sized building. I imagine that a large set would repeat at least Edna and Willie figures and no doubt Milhouse, Ralph and Martin (of course even a small set is likely to duplicate Bart and Lisa). Small sets can often be combined into something larger if you want a big set so for the build itself I'd prefer small where you buy two or three and extend it to the size you want
"
You're misinterpreting why I want a big Springfield Elementary. I'm not concerned about minifigures, but even with that there are a lot of characters Lego can make into minifigures that have never been done before. I want a *complete* Springfield Elementary *building*, akin to the Simpsons House/Kwik-E-Mart/Krusty Burger. No open back/downsided building. You're placing too much emphasis on the minifigures. With Rivendell, Barad Dur, and the Shire, the coolest part of them is the building- NOT the minifigures. If I wanted minifigures, I'd rather get another CMF line or a dedicated Simpsons line with small play sets like what Sonic has.
@Ottozone said:
" @CCC said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
Just a slight edit.
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a NICE BUT AFFORDABLE Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
"
No, I don't care about affordibility. I care about Lego making the best product regardless of cost. LEGO, we NEED a $400+ Springfield Elementary!!!"
What would you need in this set? We already have Bart, Lisa, Milhouse, Nelson, Ralph, Martin, Willie and Edna. Of course we need Skinner and Chalmers would be nice. They could do Otto with a school bus but with the drugs link he is even more unlikely than them doing Moe or Barney in a set. I don’t think Jimbo, Dolph and Kearney would be that high priority or the other kids. I'd also prefer to see a smaller school than a Rivendell sized building. I imagine that a large set would repeat at least Edna and Willie figures and no doubt Milhouse, Ralph and Martin (of course even a small set is likely to duplicate Bart and Lisa). Small sets can often be combined into something larger if you want a big set so for the build itself I'd prefer small where you buy two or three and extend it to the size you want
"
You're misinterpreting why I want a big Springfield Elementary. I'm not concerned about minifigures, but even with that there are a lot of characters Lego can make into minifigures that have never been done before. I want a *complete* Springfield Elementary *building*, akin to the Simpsons House/Kwik-E-Mart/Krusty Burger. No open back/downsided building. You're placing too much emphasis on the minifigures. With Rivendell, Barad Dur, and the Shire, the coolest part of them is the building- NOT the minifigures. If I wanted minifigures, I'd rather get another CMF line or a dedicated Simpsons line with small play sets like what Sonic has."
I place emphasis on minifigures because we already have the bricks to build a big school building.
@CCC said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @CCC said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
" @WokePope said:
"I like this set a lot, particularly the details that make the restaurant extra rundown and scuzzy. It's uncommon to see shabby buildings done in official sets, and this could easily slot into LEGO cities as a stereotypically crummy fast food joint.
The minifigs are definitely wanting. No standard Krusty is a big miss, and I agree with people that Homer as Krusty would have been a better fit. Skinner and Chalmers would have been strong inclusions.
The cost-cutting with the stickers is really apparent. Normally stickers don't bug me but this is a LOT for such a premium set."
Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a $400+ Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
Just a slight edit.
"Hopefully the lack of inclusion of Skinner and Chalmers means a NICE BUT AFFORDABLE Springfield Elementary set next year! I'm optimistic this could turn into a yearly installment like it originally was, and like LOTR is now."
"
No, I don't care about affordibility. I care about Lego making the best product regardless of cost. LEGO, we NEED a $400+ Springfield Elementary!!!"
What would you need in this set? We already have Bart, Lisa, Milhouse, Nelson, Ralph, Martin, Willie and Edna. Of course we need Skinner and Chalmers would be nice. They could do Otto with a school bus but with the drugs link he is even more unlikely than them doing Moe or Barney in a set. I don’t think Jimbo, Dolph and Kearney would be that high priority or the other kids. I'd also prefer to see a smaller school than a Rivendell sized building. I imagine that a large set would repeat at least Edna and Willie figures and no doubt Milhouse, Ralph and Martin (of course even a small set is likely to duplicate Bart and Lisa). Small sets can often be combined into something larger if you want a big set so for the build itself I'd prefer small where you buy two or three and extend it to the size you want
"
You're misinterpreting why I want a big Springfield Elementary. I'm not concerned about minifigures, but even with that there are a lot of characters Lego can make into minifigures that have never been done before. I want a *complete* Springfield Elementary *building*, akin to the Simpsons House/Kwik-E-Mart/Krusty Burger. No open back/downsided building. You're placing too much emphasis on the minifigures. With Rivendell, Barad Dur, and the Shire, the coolest part of them is the building- NOT the minifigures. If I wanted minifigures, I'd rather get another CMF line or a dedicated Simpsons line with small play sets like what Sonic has."
I place emphasis on minifigures because we already have the bricks to build a big school building."
Lego is more about the builds than the minifigures. Build always comes first. Many of Lego's successful lines are not even minifigure scale/emphasize the building not the figures. You could argue that point about any lego product since we have enough parts to make basically everything in Lego.
@Ottozone said:
"Lego is more about the builds than the minifigures. Build always comes first. Many of Lego's successful lines are not even minifigure scale/emphasize the building not the figures. You could argue that point about any lego product since we have enough parts to make basically everything in Lego."
*coughCMFscough*
@PurpleDave said:
" @Ottozone said:
"Lego is more about the builds than the minifigures. Build always comes first. Many of Lego's successful lines are not even minifigure scale/emphasize the building not the figures. You could argue that point about any lego product since we have enough parts to make basically everything in Lego."
*coughCMFscough*"
You're being intentionally dense or trolling. Either way, glad the Simpsons line is back! LEGO please do yearly installments!!!
@CapnRex101 said:
" @norco_kid said:
" @missedoutagain said:
" @norco_kid said:
"Although I love the Simpsons I hope that no one buys this so Lego gets the message that the price/sticker situation are not OK. Vote with your wallet folks.. I'm skipping this."
even if no afol bought this. Simpsons is still too popular, will sell great."
I'm not sure.. Why would non AFOLs find the price any more reasonable?"
I think AFOLs have quite a different impression of value compared with other adults buying LEGO. We often take many factors into consideration, such as the piece count, unique parts and minifigures and comparisons with other sets. I get the impression that more casual fans tend to have fewer considerations, potentially limited to whether they like a set, whether they can accommodate it and whether they can afford it. Perception of value is obviously a factor too, but likely not as complex as an AFOL's perception of value.
For instance, we look at the minifigures and immediately notice there are seven new pieces, which are going to contribute to the price. I realise some are returning elements, but after ten years, they will all be considered new. Most people are not going to be thinking about things like that.
@lluisgib said:
"No mention to the lack of doors in Homer's car? "
Working doors would be nice, but including them would add more breaks in the stickers along the sides of the car, so I think their absence is a fair compromise."
I suppose the Lego life would be way easier for AFOLs if they listened to the other fans' principles... ;)
Why does the price for the Kids meal and Pork Sandwich not match between the Drive thru menu and the menu inside the restaurant? It seems they missed the $1 for these items on the drive thru.