@AllenSmith said:
" @gearwheel said:
"1843-1 may be the only value pack Lego ever released that wasn't a repackaging of pre-existing sets - 1843-2 and 1843-3 were created specifically for 1843-1, and were never available separately."

https://brickset.com/sets/theme-Assorted/subtheme-Bonus-Value-Pack

A few of those were released separately, but most of them were exclusive."

Yeah, the only one I ever remember seeing anywhere else was 6509 (identical to 1477, which I got from 1476), which I only saw in a catalog. 6509's database page says that the only catalogs featuring it came from the UK; I can only assume that I got my hands on a UK catalog by ordering a set from the Lego Builder's club or something.

@AllanSmith, @TheOtherMike, @Librarian1976
Not saying you're wrong, but how do you know this? An availability of "Retail-limited" doesn't mean anything, because both 1475 and 1477 have that availability, and 1475 was never part of a value pack. Brickset notes saying it was part of a value pack also doesn't mean it was *only* part of a value pack, see 6808 being part of 1530-2, but with the former coming out a year before the latter the former must have been available separately. It also can't be whether it appeared in a catalog[ue], since that aligns with "limited release", not "part of a value pack".

Most other value packs were a blister pack or box containing smaller boxes, one for each component set. They all also have the included component sets have their own separate set numbers, clearly visible in the packaging, no "-n" subset number was required. In contrast, 1843-1 is "1843" only, and "1843-2" and "1843-3" never appear on the packaging. Another difference between 1843-1 and other value packs is that typical value packs have a separate instruction sheet for each component set, while the scan of 1843-1 's instructions that I found clearly is a single booklet: the castle set starts on page 2, and the space set starts on page 6.

Also, to get a better feel for the range of value sets, use this link:
https://brickset.com/sets/subtheme-Bonus-Value-Pack
It removes the "Assorted" theme requirement, so it shows the single-theme value packs as well. It also shows some "bucket of bricks" Duplo sets, but it's easy to ignore those.

@560heliport said:
" @Lyichir said:
"I'd seen this two-pack before but I hadn't noticed that on the top image the astronaut is using the wooden spear, that makes it even goofier."

Check out the Castle section of Idea Book 6000."

Aaah, 6000, one of my crown jewels. I've built many from it. Covers everything from Castle to Town to Space. This set comes close with space and castle in it.

@Lyichir said:
"I'd seen this two-pack before but I hadn't noticed that on the top image the astronaut is using the wooden spear, that makes it even goofier."
’Tis but a scratch.

Reminds me of " A Spaceman in King Arthur's Court":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_Flying_Oddball

@Lego_lord said:
" @560heliport said:
" @Lyichir said:
"I'd seen this two-pack before but I hadn't noticed that on the top image the astronaut is using the wooden spear, that makes it even goofier."

Check out the Castle section of Idea Book 6000."

Aaah, 6000, one of my crown jewels. I've built many from it. Covers everything from Castle to Town to Space. This set comes close with space and castle in it."
Plus, I'd have to look it up, but from what I remember, the last pages in that Idea book did indeed feature a mash-up of Space and Castle.

@AustinPowers said:
" @Brickalili said:
"Either it’s also a timecraft or Spyrius was set way further in the past than any of us realised "
A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away... "

Ah, I see we have another Weird Al fan here....

I made a load of sets from parts in this era, but i cant remember about this one, ive not ticked Own, but that may have been as i wasnt interested in the Caste, which looks a much better set now. The Spyrius one doesnt look great, not very aerodynamic. Has anyone seen whats on the back of the box........ "Hey Lego Maniac"

@WizardOfOss said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @Brickalili said:
"Either it’s also a timecraft or Spyrius was set way further in the past than any of us realised "
A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away... "

Ah, I see we have another Weird Al fan here...."
I was actually going for the simple choice, but yeah, definitely a Weird Al fan too!

A blue astronaut yelling 'spacecraft!' just doesn't hit the same way, does it?

@AllenSmith said:
"Ah. Yes. The set that prevents me from being Spyrius-complete*. $%@!

Not to be confused with 1722, the set that prevents me from being Ice Planet-complete*. $%@!

Kid-me deserves $25 and a good kick toward the toy section. Adult-me deserves a good kick toward the part bins, because I now have the pieces needed to build these.

* I'm not counting those Kabaya promo re-release sets or the European boxed versions of 1714 and 1711, since they are part-identical to the polybags."

I recently bought this set to complete my Spyrius collection. As a kid I didn't even know it existed so I thought that I had all the Spyrius sets that existed. When I later found out about this one I had to have it but I always prioritized some other sets until I stumbled on a good deal on Ebay for the set with instructions in perfect condition. I'm also missing the Ice Planet set.

"Why does it have swinging wings?"
"Because fanservice, stupid! Now, get all the way off my back!"

I had to bricklink this and I have to say: It looks bad when folded in, it looks bad when folded out, it doesn't speak the spyrius design language. Definitively one of the lesser models in the complete space lineup.

@Librarian1976 said:
"1476, 1675, 1722, 1723, 1891, and 1967 all included exclusive sets."
Would have loved such "Value packs" as a kid.
Pity they were only available in the US / North America.

It’s air-quoted because the National Alchemists Space Agency never achieved any real degree of success with their attempts into developing a catapult launch system.

@Zordboy said:
"Robot99 said: "That one on the bottom doesn't seem particularly space-worthy."

With enough explosives, you can launch anything into orbit.

Or so I've heard.

*whistles innocently*"

While not exactly a catapult, the entire plot of Jules Verne 'From the Earth to the Moon' is about engineers building a giant cannon to shoot a giant cannon ball at the moon.

The novel is packed full of physics calculations on the explosive power and trajectory needed , which is incredible as it was written in 1865 at which point humans had never been higher than a hot air balloon...

@Space_Police said:
" @AllenSmith said:
"Ah. Yes. The set that prevents me from being Spyrius-complete*. $%@!

Not to be confused with 1722, the set that prevents me from being Ice Planet-complete*. $%@!

Kid-me deserves $25 and a good kick toward the toy section. Adult-me deserves a good kick toward the part bins, because I now have the pieces needed to build these.

* I'm not counting those Kabaya promo re-release sets or the European boxed versions of 1714 and 1711, since they are part-identical to the polybags."

I recently bought this set to complete my Spyrius collection. As a kid I didn't even know it existed so I thought that I had all the Spyrius sets that existed. When I later found out about this one I had to have it but I always prioritized some other sets until I stumbled on a good deal on Ebay for the set with instructions in perfect condition. I'm also missing the Ice Planet set."

“Aye, aye! and I'll chase it round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition's flames before I see how much it costs, then I'll give it up.”
—Me, when it comes to building a nostalgia collection

I still want it though…

Good for you for being more boldly acquisitive!

I see that both RSOTD and RMOTD sparked some ilarity today...

This looks like a typical episode from classic Star Trek, where spacefaring people from The Enterprise land on a planet that is in Earth Medieval phase.

Seems as though most people are talking about this bang-up Spyrius ship, but man, this catapult is nice.

Random question to other owners of packs like this (and CMFs especially), how do you log these in your collection? Cuz i have 1843-1 marked as owned, but not 1843-2 or 1843-3, so none of the parts are in my inventory if i synch with rebrickable cuz -1 doesnt include -2 and -3.

It matters less for this set since these are exclusives, but i have other combo packs that have sets available other ways, like checking 66546-1 as owned doesnt add any of the actual inventory (parts of figs) of 70900-1 or 70903-1 to my collection, marking all three as owned seems like double dipping, but then not marking the combo packs at all is ignoring that i got a cool combo packs. https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/subtheme-Product-Collection/
https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/subtheme-Bonus-Value-pack/

Now i COULD mark -2 and -3 as owned, but if i go that route, i have to do the same thing with ALL my complete CMF series, cuz if i have a whole series i just mark that instead of each individual fig to keep things simpler, and marking every single individual CMF i have feels like just padding my set count, it would go from 1600+ to >2000 which just sorta seems like cheating.

123 https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/theme-Collectable-Minifigures
vs
436 https://brickset.com/minifigs/ownedby-Cyno01/category-Collectible-Minifigures

BUT as it is, just marking the whole series and not individual figs as sets doenst add any of the accessory parts to my inventory at all.

Should i be doing something differently, or could Brickset be doing these a little different?

@Cyno01 said:
"Random question to other owners of packs like this (and CMFs especially), how do you log these in your collection? Cuz i have 1843-1 marked as owned, but not 1843-2 or 1843-3, so none of the parts are in my inventory if i synch with rebrickable cuz -1 doesnt include -2 and -3.

It matters less for this set since these are exclusives, but i have other combo packs that have sets available other ways, like checking 66546-1 as owned doesnt add any of the actual inventory (parts of figs) of 70900-1 or 70903-1 to my collection, marking all three as owned seems like double dipping, but then not marking the combo packs at all is ignoring that i got a cool combo packs. https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/subtheme-Product-Collection/
https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/subtheme-Bonus-Value-pack/

Now i COULD mark -2 and -3 as owned, but if i go that route, i have to do the same thing with ALL my complete CMF series, cuz if i have a whole series i just mark that instead of each individual fig to keep things simpler, and marking every single individual CMF i have feels like just padding my set count, it would go from 1600+ to >2000 which just sorta seems like cheating.

123 https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/theme-Collectable-Minifigures
vs
436 https://brickset.com/minifigs/ownedby-Cyno01/category-Collectible-Minifigures

BUT as it is, just marking the whole series and not individual figs as sets doenst add any of the accessory parts to my inventory at all.

Should i be doing something differently, or could Brickset be doing these a little different? "

I can't speak for anyone else, but I list multipacks as owned, but CMFs I list by the individual figure.

@Cyno01 said:
"Random question to other owners of packs like this (and CMFs especially), how do you log these in your collection? Cuz i have 1843-1 marked as owned, but not 1843-2 or 1843-3, so none of the parts are in my inventory if i synch with rebrickable cuz -1 doesnt include -2 and -3.

It matters less for this set since these are exclusives, but i have other combo packs that have sets available other ways, like checking 66546-1 as owned doesnt add any of the actual inventory (parts of figs) of 70900-1 or 70903-1 to my collection, marking all three as owned seems like double dipping, but then not marking the combo packs at all is ignoring that i got a cool combo packs. https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/subtheme-Product-Collection/
https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/subtheme-Bonus-Value-pack/

Now i COULD mark -2 and -3 as owned, but if i go that route, i have to do the same thing with ALL my complete CMF series, cuz if i have a whole series i just mark that instead of each individual fig to keep things simpler, and marking every single individual CMF i have feels like just padding my set count, it would go from 1600+ to >2000 which just sorta seems like cheating.

123 https://brickset.com/sets/ownedby-Cyno01/theme-Collectable-Minifigures
vs
436 https://brickset.com/minifigs/ownedby-Cyno01/category-Collectible-Minifigures

BUT as it is, just marking the whole series and not individual figs as sets doenst add any of the accessory parts to my inventory at all.

Should i be doing something differently, or could Brickset be doing these a little different? "

For the CMF's I cover my butt in both ways by buying a case so I get three complete sets. I mark 2 sets owned and 1 each of the minifigures individually. But what ever you do if you buy a case don't mark the case as owned because Brickset doesn't count ANY of the minifigures as owned, just the fact that you own a case. Silly.