Random set of the day: Black Monarch's Castle
Posted by Huwbot,
Today's random set is 6085 Black Monarch's Castle, released in 1988. It's one of 7 Castle sets produced that year. It contains 702 pieces and 12 minifigs, and its retail price was US$68.
It's owned by 3212 Brickset members. If you want to add it to your collection you might find it for sale at BrickLink or eBay.
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Humm... Rumours that 2021 will be the return of Castle theme have surfaced all over Internet...
I wonder how "innocent" this RSOTD might be... Lol
Just an amazing set, large amount of figures and horses, good pieces and mechanics, considering the 80s.
Even if this is just 1 faction of knights, back then there was plenty of choice in other sets, Black Knights sets were around until 1992.
It's no yellow castle, but this is still an iconic set!
Beautiful castle.
IDEAS has the potential to bring a similar kind of set, check out the most recent list of approved submissions. Fingers crossed...
Who is this mysterious "Black Monarch"?
*strokes beard*
I had a few random small sets, but getting this at the mall was the real start of my lego obsession all those years ago. My sons have recently rebuilt it and I am looking at it in our lego room as I type. Epic!
A dark but improved clone of 6080, this was the last (non-modular) castle that could be opened up into a long wall section that could connect with other wall section sets (a pity that there were so few black walled-sets to integrate this with as well as the discrepancy in base-plate thickness among sets). This castle (along with the aforementioned 6080) included 12 minifigs total (16 if you include the 4 horses), all from the same faction (no ghosts, skeletons, or attackers/prisoners from opposing factions)! I really enjoy the imposing look of the gatehouse flanked by its elevated rampart sections and appreciate the fact that all knights and soldiers excluding the 4 archers were equipped with shields.
@Darth_Mule:
6034. He...didn't get better. I feel like this is some sort of Odysseus situation, where everyone is just hanging out at his house, drinking all his booze, and spending all his money.
$68... you were so close to greatness
smh
@legoninjago69 said:
"$68... you were so close to greatness"
Adjusted for inflation, that corresponds to $151.42 in 2020...not as cheap as you might think. However, it is very unlikely that LEGO would release a castle set with such a large faction "army" today.
The best castle.
The stuff of dreams. We were solidly into Classic Space, but this one definitely got attention.
Yep. Yep. This is dope.
I like the more realistic way of the Castle theme. All that mumbo jumbo sci-fi nexo stuff just doesn't do it for me. Having said that, I wouldn't mind occasional dragons showing up from time to time :)
@LordDunsany said:
" @legoninjago69 said:
"$68... you were so close to greatness"
Adjusted for inflation, that corresponds to $151.42 in 2020...not as cheap as you might think. However, it is very unlikely that LEGO would release a castle set with such a large faction "army" today."
Nor would it likely be $150, probably closer to $100.
IMHO, the best of the classic castles of the 20th century. Wonderful set. Will never sell mine.
Ironic given the Classic Castle in the recent Ideas article
Haven't tuned into Brickset in a while, Looks like I missed a Bohrok and Basil the Batlord in RSotD. Oh well...
Truly one of the best Castle sets, and along with 6080, an important part of my childhood Lego experience. :)
I do not remember a lot from when I was young. However I remember my brother got this for his birthday, but he was too young to build it so I had to help him. Ended up being a great gift for both of us and was by far the biggest set in our childhood collection :D
Woah, this is amazing!!
No correlation with the upcoming Ideas set I suppose...no, of course not.
I can put myself in the headspace that if I was a child growing up in the 80s, this castle would've been revolutionary and wondrous to behold. A must-have for any Castle collector and up to that point, the greatest LEGO Castle set. However, I am a child of the 90s, and the Black Knights ended up with an even better castle with even more amazingly-armed and armored knights in 1992 with 6086 Black Knights' Castle (or Dungeon Master's Castle for some). So, with this one being the start of my favorite Castle faction, I give the Black Monarch's Castle its ample due. Without it, there is no 6086 and dare I say no other black-walled Castle structures (including the very impressive and personal favorite, Royal Knights' Castle from 1995). A true LEGO legend!
Speaking of legends, I guess we are still wondering about the fate of the Black Monarch. I am still a fan of the assassination theory, although I suspect LEGO themselves are fond of thinking he just met his fate due to an unlucky accident (thrown from his horse? Fell from the ramparts? Got stuck in a locked gatehouse during a game of hide-and-seek?).
Would get panned today, lacking interior detail!
The only LEGO Castle set with a primarily black color scheme instead of grey... That makes it quite unique.
The other two things that make this set great are the red and blue horse barding pieces. Privileged to have picked up 2 copies of this set a few years back at a decent price.
This is one of the best castles. Great build and a lot of figures.
Such a happy memory to see this today. Thank you Huwbot.
Never owned a castle set, but I thought they looked cool. This was a good one.
Castle, town, pirates and space. Good days, what more could you want.
Even though only 700 pieces this was a great castle for your own designs especially when combined with 6059 the RSOD last week. If you click on 6085 and click on catalogues there are some great landscape photos of the castle at the center of everything from 1988 to 1991, which shows the price at around £43.
@LordDunsany:
Read his comment, and then look at his username. Then read his comment again...and look at his username again.
And if this was released today, it would probably cost...$69.99 USD. Inflation hasn't been on speaking terms with LEGO prices in over four decades.
This set was my life for a good deal of time as a young child. Built and tore down and rebuilt more times than I can count. And the first time I received a small army in minifigures in one set. So much play value.
@Nick said:
"And the first time I received a small army in minifigures in one set. So much play value."
I don’t think that kids today or even AFOLs in their twenties appreciate that back in the ‘80s (and ‘70s) it wasn’t easy to obtain large numbers of specific minifigures. You were pretty much limited to whatever ones came with sets.
Occasionally, LEGO would release a minifigures box, but they were always assortments, meaning there might be some minifigures that didn’t interest you. Also, at least in the UK, those minifigure only boxes were not widely available.
CMFs, BAM, B&P, BrickLink and Ebay make it very much easier to get minifigures.
Finally a random set of the day is the one I owned (when I was very young)
Lovely set!
I mean, not quite as good as 6086 IMO, but a pretty solid set nonetheless. Being great instead of amazing is still something to be be proud of!
Kid me wished he had that. Adult me wishes kid me had that as well.
According to brickset I own this. I pulled all of my instructions & minifigs from my childhood home a few years ago but haven't gone through the bricks yet. I have some sorting to do.
@PurpleDave said:
" @LordDunsany :
Read his comment, and then look at his username. Then read his comment again...and look at his username again.
And if this was released today, it would probably cost...$69.99 USD. Inflation hasn't been on speaking terms with LEGO prices in over four decades."
Yeah, I realized that soon after posting (and see that you have proposed an estimated cost accordingly). All joking aside, while it's true inflation doesn't quite follow LEGO pricing, there are still many people who see the older prices and think "LEGO was so much cheaper in the past". It is important to remember that the average costs of goods and living has changed over time (on a related note, it does seem that used copies of several sets from this period have ballooned in price over the past decade - the cheapest complete copies (without any broken parts) of this set that I see on Bricklink are almost double what I paid for this set almost 10 years ago).
I think if this set were released today, it would cost $90-120 and contain 5-6 defenders and 3 attackers from an opposing faction, if more recent castles are any indication. This set really was the last large castle that gave you a large starter army of a single faction (even the much-loved 6086 replaced 2 of the soldiers with a ghost and a Wolfpack thief/prisoner).
Great set!
Even if there will be no castle theme in 2021, i hope to see a big CREATOR 3-in-1 castle set - something great like 31109 Pirate Ship from 2020! With horses, but not the brick-built ones please! :D
I still got this one, with its box and everything! Such an amazing reminder from my childhood.
I have mine currently displayed on the shelf attached to Knight's Stronghold (6059) creating a lovely hexagonal design. This was the best birthday present ever when I was a child - glad I still have these years later.
No matter how much more advanced LEGO gets, there's still something about the Castle sets from this era that still captivate me... (...might just be my nostalgia talking!!)
For some reason, I don't think I got this one growing up. I had the earlier ones and some from this era as well, but I'm pretty sure I didn't have it so it doesn't have the nostalgia of 375 or 6080.
I've got it now though, but no desire to build it, so just for sale on Bricklink whenever I reopen.
LOVE. This is one of two sets that remained built and mostly intact from 1988/89 until our first child was born, and I came out of my LEGO dark ages, in 2016. The other one being 6285, of course. The Barracuda still sails the seas, but 6085 has recently been combined with several other contemporary Castle sets to make . . . Black Monarch's Mountain Fortress!
@darkstonegrey said:
"The other two things that make this set great are the red and blue horse barding pieces. Privileged to have picked up 2 copies of this set a few years back at a decent price."
I had some leftover parts from my original set when I was a kid,so after discovering bricklink and a store that accepted something other than paypal (Serbia...paypal came in late) I bought a new one...and than got another one as part of a set someone was selling as a moc based upon Dragon master castle ...so ended up having two and a half sets of this masterpiece...I want to be buried with it...it is destiny that we are to be together...
Great set!!! Hope Lego Castle theme returns!!
@bogdanst said:
" @darkstonegrey said:
"The other two things that make this set great are the red and blue horse barding pieces. Privileged to have picked up 2 copies of this set a few years back at a decent price."
I had some leftover parts from my original set when I was a kid,so after discovering bricklink and a store that accepted something other than paypal (Serbia...paypal came in late) I bought a new one...and than got another one as part of a set someone was selling as a moc based upon Dragon master castle ...so ended up having two and a half sets of this masterpiece...I want to be buried with it...it is destiny that we are to be together..."
Haha, nice!
I absolutely had to acquire 2 sets in order to be able to have that superb alternate build version of the Knight's Tournament along side the main build (I feel that alt build is actually superior to the main one). Some clever build techniques in there!