Vintage set of the week: Railroad Control Tower
Posted by Huwbot,
This week's vintage set is 340 Railroad Control Tower, released during 1968. It's one of 17 System sets produced that year. It contains 86 pieces.
It's owned by 121 Brickset members. If you want to add it to your collection you might find it for sale at BrickLink or eBay.
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The people working there would get a good workout with those steps.
That is if there were even any people, but not even the proto minifigs existed yet.
Aww, it's cute!
I forgot it was Vintage Set day, and I just saw the red flag on my Feeder icon tell me the post was up--and I saw the words "Railroad Control Tower." I was trying to guess if it was an 80s, 90s, or more recent Train set as I finished the article I was reading...
BOOM! Blocky yellow and red tower.
I'm not going to hate on a set from 1968 for looking the part, but it was a surprise.
@VintageDude said:
"I own this set.
Absolutely adorable!
It looks good on it's own as well as together with 341-1 and 342-1 ."
Certainly are 3 great little sets, even with their unique and very easily breakable bases!
The set depends on the title to communicate what it is - though the set isn't badly designed, there isn't anything that railroady about it.
Well, that's an interesting baseplate. Was only in this set, too. I guess the studs around the edge were just so it could be linked to other sets' baseplates.
That baseplate was very confident in it’s job security, until the new-fangled baseplates (totally covered in studs!) ran it out of town. There was no warning.
Back when roofs were stacked plates and doors were HO scale.
Kind of sad that over 50 years ago there were more train accessories than what we get these days.
Are there studs on the baseplate under the building?
From a time when you had a choice of being unable to open the door in both left and right hand versions!
Wow, 1968. That's some vintage set goodness.
@TheOtherMike:
A lot of old baseplates had set-specific stud patterns like this, which probably lasted until parents started complaining about how they couldn’t be used to build anything else. Next was baseplates with patterns of dots painted onto the studs to identify where the walls would attach. You could still build other stuff with them, but apparently they felt kids of the era were being challenged too much, and dumbed down the set construction process to give them a fighting chance.
@sjr60:
Ah, so it’s a residence in the UP during February! That’s why it has external stairs from the second story, leading down to where you’d park the snowmobile. Um, right, almost forgot. “Eh?”
@TheOtherMike said:
"I guess the studs around the edge were just so it could be linked to other sets' baseplates."
Also useful for putting fences around the border, as per the houses in 080-1 .
I think it says something about the style of early Lego that this could just as easily be City as it could Fabuland
Not the most inspired build, but it does the job and is instantly recognizable for what it is.
Those very specific baseplates though....even as a kid I thought those were weird....
Heh, a motorized Lighthouse gets 'dropped' today by TLG...and a 'landlocked' equivalency shows in Vintage...:)
Also: it's a Railroad Control Tower...where's the railroad (besides the rail set from weeks ago...)...
@MeisterDad said:
"Back when roofs were stacked plates and doors were HO scale."
So that’s why they had those tiny doors, because you could use them for your HO train lay-out? Never knew that. Now i finally can have some respect for those doors
@CCC said:
" @MCLegoboy said:
"The people working there would get a good workout with those steps.
That is if there were even any people, but not even the proto minifigs existed yet."
I was born about the same time this was released, and I had plenty of figures to use with my LEGO as a young kid. They just weren't LEGO figures. Kids back then were able to play with multiple brands at once."
Excellent point.... Matchbox's Mobile Action Command figures' hips happened to be 2 bricks wide, I made some ridiculously long dragsters for them way back in the 70's..
baseplates in the later years, e.g. 360 had still studless areas for better driving and had white painted studs where the first bricks had to be put on.
Nostalgia hits hard!
This is the kind of LEGO I grew up with: simple yet very effective for us kids back then.
@CCC said:
"I was born about the same time this was released, and I had plenty of figures to use with my LEGO as a young kid. They just weren't LEGO figures. Kids back then were able to play with multiple brands at once."
My sister collected these in the 60s, and they were frequent passengers on my Lego trains!
https://images.app.goo.gl/1iVXYgdiiqL9SfHV9
(Almost as ugly as Cobi figures!)
@sjr60: I'm reminded of the opening of Toy Story 3.
Was the photo changed from this morning?
@TheOtherMike said:
" @sjr60: I'm reminded of the opening of Toy Story 3."
Wow, I had no idea they were still a thing 50 years on!
@blokey9 said:
"Was the photo changed from this morning?"
I think you're correct. I believe the original photo showed it with the later, short silled windows.
This is pretty much my building style and abilities even with 2022 bricks :-)
I've been a controlling all my railroad, all the live long day!
I've been a controlling all my railroad, just to pass the time away!
Can't you hear the diesel growling, rise up so early in the morn'!
Can't you hear the neighbor shouting - Don't you blow that horn!
@windjammer: That's the beauty of Lego. 2022 bricks and 1968 bricks are much the same, and even where they're not, they're at least compatible with each other.
@TheOtherMike said:
"That's the beauty of Lego. 2022 bricks and 1968 bricks are much the same, and even where they're not, they're at least compatible with each other."
Well, that depends. I still have a bunch of Lego from before my time, from the 60s and early 70s. Part of it is still compatible, but many parts have a weird curvature that isn't compatible with anything....
@sjr60 said:
" @blokey9 said:
"Was the photo changed from this morning?"
I think you're correct. I believe the original photo showed it with the later, short silled windows."
Same set, different photo now. If you view the images for the set, the image it was showing before is the first one in the list with the stairs on the right.
@MainBricker said:
"About £200 in today's money."
Is that with or without the motor?
@WizardOfOss said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
"That's the beauty of Lego. 2022 bricks and 1968 bricks are much the same, and even where they're not, they're at least compatible with each other."
Well, that depends. I still have a bunch of Lego from before my time, from the 60s and early 70s. Part of it is still compatible, but many parts have a weird curvature that isn't compatible with anything...."
'Weird curvature' very often happens when bricks have been hydrogen peroxide treated, especially early cellulose acetate parts, although they can turn banana shaped without chemical assistance!
@sjr60 said:
"'Weird curvature' very often happens when bricks have been hydrogen peroxide treated, especially early cellulose acetate parts, although they can turn banana shaped with no chemical assistance!"
Pretty sure no treatment here, unless that already happened 50 years ago.
The weird thing is also that it very much seems to depend on color: black pieces are still as new, white and yellow are mostly fine. Blue bricks seem fine too but slopes are a mess, and many red pieces (including those old school window pieces) too.
@WizardOfOss said:
"Pretty sure no treatment here, unless that already happened 50 years ago.
The weird thing is also that it very much seems to depend on color: black, white and yellow are mostly fine, blue bricks seem mostly fine but slopes are a mess, and many red pieces (including those old school window pieces) too."
Yes, I've got a few untreated ancient blue slopes that aren't in great shape.
But I also had a batch of perfect shape, white, cellulose acetate 2x4s that I thought I'd brighten up with a bit of hydrogen peroxide, that ended up only fit for the dustbin!
@sjr60:
https://brickset.com/sets/theme-Trolls-World-Tour
Where do you think ^that theme came from?
@WizardOfOss:
Color can affect how plastic performs because the color is a result of adding different compounds into the plastic. Black comes from coal dust, as pure carbon (unless compressed into diamonds) is a very clean black. Some colors used to be colored with heavy metals, because they were cheap to procure. Mixel sockets are restricted to two colors because color can have enough of an effect on clutch that they would have had to make multiple molds to expand the color lineup. Certain colors used to turn brittle with age, but this was not a universal problem (thankfully). And I once read a comment from someone in Texas who claimed that, while driving home from an AFOL convention in temps well north of 100F, a few specific colors lost their rigidity, while others weathered the weather just fine.
@PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike:
A lot of old baseplates had set-specific stud patterns like this, which probably lasted until parents started complaining about how they couldn’t be used to build anything else. Next was baseplates with patterns of dots painted onto the studs to identify where the walls would attach. You could still build other stuff with them, but apparently they felt kids of the era were being challenged too much, and dumbed down the set construction process to give them a fighting chance.
@sjr60:
Ah, so it’s a residence in the UP during February! That’s why it has external stairs from the second story, leading down to where you’d park the snowmobile. Um, right, almost forgot. “Eh?”"
The USA/Canada version of 340 Control Tower, 341 Warehouse, and 342 Train Station all had full stud baseplates, even though the Samsonite LEGO box for these sets showed limited stud locations. Also USA/Canada Samsonite versions of these 3 sets had only unpainted green pine trees, and not the painted trees shown.
@Istokg said:
"The USA/Canada version of 340 Control Tower, 341 Warehouse, and 342 Train Station all had full stud baseplates, even though the Samsonite LEGO box for these sets showed limited stud locations. Also USA/Canada Samsonite versions of these 3 sets had only unpainted green pine trees, and not the painted trees shown."
Samsonite did seem to be fairly infamous for having somewhat dubious stock. e.g. Still using waffle plates when they had been discontinued for years elsewhere.
I wonder if these sets had the correct baseplates and trees at the start of the run, but had to substitute when the Lego/Samsonite relationship broke down.
@Norikins said:
"The set depends on the title to communicate what it is - though the set isn't badly designed, there isn't anything that railroady about it."
As is often the case with early LEGO, this set was not a depiction of a random building. This was a pretty accurate model of the "Det Gule Palæ", which was a beloved railroad control tower in Copenhagen. This building played a prominent role in a Danish heist movie. A few years ago money was raised in order to save the building from posterity, and it was moved to the Danish railroad museum.
https://realdania.dk/projekter/det-gule-pal%C3%A6
@scheller2 said:
"As is often the case with early LEGO, this set was not a depiction of a random building. This was a pretty accurate model of the "Det Gule Palæ", which was a beloved railroad control tower in Copenhagen. This building played a prominent role in a Danish heist movie. A few years ago money was raised in order to save the building from posterity, and it was moved to the Danish railroad museum.
https://realdania.dk/projekter/det-gule-pal%C3%A6
"
Interesting, though I don't see that much resemblance. It would have been more obvious with less windows and slopes for the roof.
I did recognize it for what it was at first glance, but I had something much more modern in mind.