Which Ultimate Collector Series sets should be revisited?

I did the echo base,but just about any ucs building would be nice

I don't really buy Star Wars sets, so I'm the wrong person to ask :) I would seriously consider a Death Star or Sandcrawler, though. (and maybe a Tie Advanced)

I went with the TIE Interceptor - one of the COOLEST SW ships but the UCS model is very out of date.

Naboo fighter would be nice but it needs chrome parts to look right and we know LEGO won’t do those again.

I say B-Wing. I wanted to like the first UCS B-Wing, but it just looked too wonky to me and rather fragile to boot.

It’s my second favorite starfighter after the A-Wing, and I’d love to have one so they could sit together.

But now that I think about it, if they were in scale to each other that might cause serious pricing problems…

I don’t really have a good answer. Sorry.

AT-ST, it is time to take this set I miss years ago.
Other proposal are too recent, or requires an excessive effort or cost.

Naboo Starfighter would be great if just to set a precedence for smaller UCS sets. I'd love a collection of smaller, display oriented starfighters (I'm thinking something akin to the ship from Lightyear).
Otherwise, a new DSII is long overdue.

IMO, Assalut on Hoth wasn't bad. It just needed to be on white baseplates (which didn't exist then) to connect it all- except the Wampa's cave, that should be separate. The name didn't help: Assault on Hoth? Really? Two snowtroopers, a speeder bike, and an E-WEB? It should have been named "Defense of Hoth" or"Hoth Echo Base" or "Hoth Rebel Base".

I'll like to see those one: UCS Lucrehulk-class Droid Control Ship, a new UCS version of the Executor, UCS Clone Turbo Tank, UCS Home One, UCS Invisible Hand or UCS Jango Fett Slave 1. Because most of them we haven't seen them in Lego set or got a newer version.

What, no option for an X-Wing?

I want a new B-wing playset.

@EnterTheSerpent said:
"Everyone seems to dislike the Echo Base but I really like it. I'll probably never own it though since it's worth too much now, which doesn't make sense given its negative reception. "

I was also hoping to pick that up, but TLBM caused me to miss a few things that were high on my priority list.

@TheMikeStrikesBack said:
"Naboo Starfighter for sure. Chrome or not, I don’t mind. I think it would look fine in light bluish grey.

Also, it’s rumored we’re getting a new TIE Interceptor in May."

…And that we’re getting Jabba’s sailbarge, and that the UCS vote means we’re getting the Nebulon B and TIE Bomber (and that the rankings merely determined release order), and…hopefully nobody still thinks we’re getting a straight reissue if 10179 anymore. Sometimes rumors are true. Sometimes they’re just wishful thinking on steroids and caffeine.

I would like to see a MBS Death Star II similar to 75222 Betrayal at Cloud City. As impressive as a fully or partially enclosed Death Star II might be, a display model with no interior and with likely no more than 2 figures is not something I would buy.

Alternatively, a proper MBS Echo Base would be a nice set to have. I'd like it to be more cohesive than 75098 Assault on Hoth; instead of several small builds that could each be a set of their own, a single larger structure would be preferable.

@PurpleDave said:
" @AcademyofDrX said:
"It's a hole, it's not fun to build a hole."

*gently consoles his cave-diving vignette*"

Building a hole may not be fun. But fixing a whole isn't just fun, it's even got a theme song by the Beatles:
"I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in, and stops my mind from wandering, where it will go..."

None of the above, LEGO please focus your UCS efforts on a TIE Bomber.

@magpie9 said:
"I'm surprised the Imperial Shuttle didn't make the cut."

Me too. Obvious choice. I’m sure I’m not the only one who doesn’t have the older model. I hoped for it this year. How cool would it be to make a stab at an Endor MOC with the Shuttle and ATAT.

I know that one guy from Poland already blew this out of the park, but it would be more attainable for us mortals with the major vehicles as UCS builds to make large custom trees and a landing platform over basic fauna.

LEGO doesn’t really line up these sets with major anniversaries anyways, it’s more a loose correlation with the rare direct hit.

But with sail barge rumored MBS next year, that makes a shuttle look more like 3 years out at best.

None, please! We want new stuff.

While I'm sure the B-Wing and Vader's TIE could be improved a little here and there, I'm pretty happy with them as they are. My vote goes to the aging TIE Interceptor or the N1. And unfortunately, without proper chrome parts, I'm afraid I wouldn't see the point of doing the N1 (we'd probably get Mando's more brushed-steel looking variant, which I do like but is not the same).

If I had to choose between those, I'd say do the TIE Interceptor, and do the colors right. But I'd hedge my bet there, too, since I'd prefer a Bomber with parts to build other TIEs as alternate builds.

@Rimefang said:
" @EnterTheSerpent said:
"Everyone seems to dislike the Echo Base but I really like it. I'll probably never own it though since it's worth too much now, which doesn't make sense given its negative reception. "

At the time of release, the set was more of a combination of small sets already released, and nothing like a unified Ultimate Collector Series display like the other location based big sets. There is a lot of interest in a grand location that captures some of the awe of a big set without being similar to other small sets, as was done for The Desth Star, Ewok Village, Cloud City, and Mos Eisley Cantina. What most of us expected and wanted is probably a large Ion Cannon mountain base with a trailing ridge that leads to a shield generator. What made that set hard to understand as a UCS was that you could divide it up into 12 small builds and place them all over a home, which didn't feel very Ultimate. "

That's valid, it does stick out compared to the other UCS sets. I'm not sure how they could design it as one build without it being tiring to build or looking bland with the amount of white bricks. Looking at the likes of 76252 though, I think it's a lot more possible now than it was then.

What no Imperial Lambda-class Shuttle?

Would have thought it was right up there for a remake, judging by the aftermarket prices for the original.

Not sure how the Imperial Shuttle managed to escape this list... Because the last version still looks pretty good???

Either way, I'm gutted to see Vader's TIE Advanced so low on the poll...

Imperial Shuttle

@Murdoch17 said:
" @AcademyofDrX said:
"It's a hole, it's not fun to build a hole."
Building a hole may not be fun. But fixing a whole isn't just fun, it's even got a theme song by the Beatles:
"I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in, and stops my mind from wandering, where it will go...""
So much fun, they did it TWICE:
"Fixing a hole in the ocean, trying to make a dovetail joint."

I went with the Naboo N-1 starfighter and only because out of all the sets that were made, it was the one that didn't really feel UCS at the time and being just a $40 set and now sells for ridiculous prices means its ripe for a remake. The other sets were all excellent when they came out and still stand up today. Sure the Vader Tie and Interceptor are a bit old, but the Interceptor is being remade anyways. And I would love to see Lego create new ships and not just rehash the old ones over and over again. Like the X-Wing. This time around could have totally been Poe Dameron's X-Wing version versus the original.

@AcademyofDrX said:
" @PixelTheDragon said:
" @johleth said:
"Another Echo Base???

People really are gluttons for punishment."

I think the last one being so bad is all the more reason to give it another go. So many people love building that scene, so wouldn’t it make sense to have a big collector thing that has everything all in one package? Get an AT-AT, the base, the falcon, a trench with the Rebels, and maybe some other extras thrown in. Just focus more on display than play this time. "
No, that doesn't make sense, because you just described like four or five different sets, or a hodgepodge of unsatisfying miniature sets. I have a half-dozen snowspeeders, a couple AT-ATs, and AT-STs at minifigure scale. I don't want smaller versions of each of those, and if they're at the same scale, I want them to get the proper set release treatment.

Also no one should open a box to build a trench. The correct answer is what MOC builders have done for decades: get heaping boxes of white bricks and go to town. There's no other good way to do it. It's a hole, it's not fun to build a hole."

It doesn't have to be small. We've got LEGO Star Wars sets costing well over $500 now. The vehicles could be in the midi scale that we've been seeing in more sets recently.

@EnterTheSerpent said: "[Echo Base is] worth too much now, which doesn't make sense given its negative reception"

I kinda expected something like this to happen, as I've long believed that single unpopular sets in an otherwise highly popular series are among those that will increase most in price. Think of it - a lot of people buy the UCS series, and then this one stinker comes along. Many potential collectors will skip it cause they find it disappointing, while at the same time it's so expensive ($250 when modulars still costed $150) that they can't justify buying it just for completeness.

So, some years after it has been discontinued many of these collectors realize that they have a near-complete UCS collection *except* this one single set and are eager to fill that hole. Since so few copies were made/sold (compared to the rest of the series) there are now too few available to cover all the potential buyers, leading to increasing prices.

I always imagined a UCS Hoth set as a mountain of white BURPs (maybe with some white/aqua or white/dark grey marbled ones for variety), hinged to open into a front and back section with two or three floors inside. The front would have the hangar doors and a control room window on the floor above, while the back could have the shield generator and ion cannon. Inside the back there would be a rear hangar area with tautaun pen and the medical facility etc on the upper floor. I think it would be visually more interesting with a narrow/tall mountain than a low/wide one, which leads to some challenges with the sliding hangar doors. Here there's potential for some interesting mechanisms, by making each side out of several sections that either telescopes into each other (like modern-style elevator doors), slide into a box where they stack behind each other (like some Japanese sliding walls) or hinging the sections and having the tracks turn rearwards (similar to 5985 Space Police HQ).

Of those I went for Vader’s Tie, as it’s been a long time. Would have gone for the Shuttle if that was on there though

Death star! And it should be big enough to take the largest lego set title ;)

@StarWarzFan7777 said:
" @jrbookworm said:
"Cloud City for the love of all things good. The aftermarket prices on everything Cloud City are insane, and the huge one from 2018 (I think?) came out in my dark ages. "

Saw Betrayal on Cloud City for half-off in a store at one point, I regret not picking it up."

I grabbed it from my Lego brand store at the end of the year clearance for about around $200 just before it retired.

I did the same with the Assault of Hoth. I said I wasn't going to get it, then some crazy deal makes me realize it's just a big battlepack. ;)

What happened to the Jabba's palace option?

What I want more than anything is a bantha not a brick made one a moulded on like in the Lego to games

Am I a rubbish Star Wars fan for reading through the list and thinking none of the above…

@Murdoch17 said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @AcademyofDrX said:
"It's a hole, it's not fun to build a hole."

*gently consoles his cave-diving vignette*"

Building a hole may not be fun. But fixing a whole isn't just fun, it's even got a theme song by the Beatles:
"I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in, and stops my mind from wandering, where it will go...""

Ahem:

“I am a dwarf and I’m digging a hole!
Diggy-diggy hole! Diggy-doggy hole!”

@TheSoundOfWhiteNoise said:
" @magpie9 said:
"I'm surprised the Imperial Shuttle didn't make the cut."

It is already perfect.
The best they can do is just re-release it."

I can't argue with that. Maybe release it with two sets of minifigs, one imperial crew and one rebel crew similar to what Lego did with the 2nd UCS Falcon.

Ewok Village was fairly recent anyway, that would be a bit like the pointless Disney Castle remake.

The Naboo Starfighter has never had a proper UCS set, just that odd set with some chrome pieces.

@axeleng:
For SW, there’s also the issue of any exclusive minifigs. Lots of people are just trying to collect all of those, by one definition or another, and it’s not unheard of for a rare minifig to cost half as much as the complete set. If you’re paying that much for a single minifig, it doesn’t seem as hard to justify going whole-hog and buying the rest of the set.

@SearchlightRG:
Don’t force me to remind you that there’s an entire band named “Hole”…

It was a toss-up between the N-1 & Ewok Village
N-1 needs an update
Ewok Village is one that I came so close to pulling the trigger on but didn't. Still want it now, when money & space combine once more

@magpie9 said:
" @TheSoundOfWhiteNoise said:
" @magpie9 said:
"I'm surprised the Imperial Shuttle didn't make the cut."

It is already perfect.
The best they can do is just re-release it."

I can't argue with that. Maybe release it with two sets of minifigs, one imperial crew and one rebel crew similar to what Lego did with the 2nd UCS Falcon."

I respectfully disagree. The cockpit nose section is far too tapered, and the engine exhaust area was a lazy, inaccurate design. TLG finally learned with the latest UCS X-wing engine intake proportions, and I hope they give the Shuttle a fresh look soon.

Wow... Didn't think the AT-ST would be that unpopular...
My second choice would have been the Sandcrawler. I've love to know what a €600 upgrade would look like.

I personally think the Ewok Village is one of the best Star Wars sets ever made, and I never got it so I needed to vote for it. The Naboo Starfighter is a close second.

WOW ewok village made list
.....so cool.....

That be first once not a ship.

@missedoutagain said:
" @MegaBlocks said:
"Ewok Village was fairly recent anyway, that would be a bit like the pointless Disney Castle remake.

The Naboo Starfighter has never had a proper UCS set, just that odd set with some chrome pieces."

How would Ewok Village be remake... point was Big BIg Big UCS set."

Ewok Village is a UCS set.

@560heliport said:
" @missedoutagain said:
" @MegaBlocks said:
"Ewok Village was fairly recent anyway, that would be a bit like the pointless Disney Castle remake.

The Naboo Starfighter has never had a proper UCS set, just that odd set with some chrome pieces."

How would Ewok Village be remake... point was Big BIg Big UCS set."

Ewok Village is a UCS set."

lol I tried deleting that...comment
but thought was smaller, bigger be nice.

2016 was long time ago retired

@rahlmaclaren said:
"I'd vote for a UCS Ice Station Odyssey (with extra ice shipping facilities) -- oops, not Star Wars. Sorry not sorry."

We'd get Trans-Orange Ice Station Odyssey and Light Bluish Gray Naboo Starfighter.

@johleth said:
"Another Echo Base???

People really are gluttons for punishment."

If done like an actual Master Builder set (Cantina) yes. Another SSD would be the beast.

@PurpleDave you can't remind me of something I wasn't aware of in the first place!

The Ewok Village would look amazing nowadays, but considering sets like the Mos Eisley Cantina, Echo Base could have the most drastic quality improvement.

@SearchlightRG said:
" @PurpleDave you can't remind me of something I wasn't aware of in the first place!"

There’s an entire band called Hole.

@PurpleDave said:
" @SearchlightRG said:
" @PurpleDave you can't remind me of something I wasn't aware of in the first place!"

There’s an entire band called Hole."
To quote the classic Red Dwarf episode "Backwards":

Rimmer: "... until eventually we all become one glorious whole."

Lister: "Rimmer, you already are one glorious hole."
;-)

I wanted to vote for the Imperial Shuttle but it’s not on the poll

I'd vote for the Sandcrawler. Except I wouldn't buy it because it would be huge and expensive. I currently use my https://brickset.com/sets/10144-1/Sandcrawler as residence for SW minifigs.

Imperial Shuttle

Had to vote for the Echo Base because you forgot the Lambda Shuttle.
All other options are either well-executed and don't need reissues at this point or technic figure scale vehicles that don't fit my collection at all.

@lowlead said:
"
I respectfully disagree. The cockpit nose section is far too tapered, and the engine exhaust area was a lazy, inaccurate design. TLG finally learned with the latest UCS X-wing engine intake proportions, and I hope they give the Shuttle a fresh look soon."

Exactly. There are some nice Imperial Shuttle Lambda MOC instructions available that vastly improve the nose and engines. I only haven't bitten on them because of the wing designs and because the necessary improvements to the old model are quite minimal that it doesn't warrant the excessive cost of 20-40$ that these instructions ask for. I would rather have a brickbuilt or plate built design than technic liftarms. I don't care if they might droop with time as there is no evidence seeing how many other large Lambda and Zeta shuttle MOCs were built with a plate design, and the engines of the Venator droop right out of the box. The liftarms ruin the aesthetic of the smooth wings voiding the purpose of the entire model. Then main body could have easily been constructed with a sensible interior, too but it was omitted entirely from the UCS Shuttle set so not really sure if a new Lego set would deliver a better design at all with all this focus on excessive stability.

Also, if anyone ever does a new Lambda shuttle it should have an entirely original interior. The cross-section books design with a chair in the middle and two rows on the sides is ridiculously minimal for what should be a 5-star class cruiseship for the emperor of the galaxy.

I would much rather have a new Lego original IP space series, rather than the fourth friggin' iteration of the SW UCS X-wing fighter.

I'm so proud of you guys for picking Ewok Village, I figured it would be down near the bottom simply because it's not a vehicle.

@pimbo said:
"I would much rather have a new Lego original IP space series, rather than the fourth friggin' iteration of the SW UCS X-wing fighter."

...or both.

The largest toy manufacturer can certainly swing that. Though from my point of view, the original Space IPs from LEGO are always underwhelming - with goofy designs, gross color combos, etc... I never end up purchasing them, but I would certainly spend money on a new space theme that really wows me. Still waiting.

In the meantime, I would still buy the 7th or 9th iteration of a UCS X-wing if it kept increasing in accuracy and perceived value.

@TheBrickPal said:
"We absolutely need a new UCS N-1 Starfighter, with the sole reason being that the last UCS N-1 Starfighter wasn't even a proper UCS set!"

I still have mine.

I love the N-1 it's no secret. I would absolutely love to see it revisited. With the new parts available it would like fantastic and it doesn't need to be chrome.

EWOK VILLAGE!!!!

Really don't get the Death Star II being on there. A sculpture would be just as weird as the Chewbacca statue and Black Panther bust and making it figure compatible would rob it of half the possible interior if they are considering it at all.

Ewok Village would be a good candidate with taller trees that are more of a cylindrical shape as seen in the movie but unless they finally come out with force ghost figures and theme it around the victory celebration it would make more sense to turn it into a general Battle of Endor and focus on the shield bunker and finally design some smaller realistic trees to put around the battlefield.

This poll is about which sets are outdated and need modernisation, not which ones we were too slow to grab last time and regret missing...

...that can be a third poll.

I wonder if they could do the Naboo Starfighter and include pieces so you could either build the traditional Episode I version or do the tricked-out version from The Mandalorian. Probably too many extra parts, but I can hope...

I'm unlikely to buy any of these (UCS sets don't really appeal to me) but I think Echo Base deserves a proper set, not the travesty that was Assault on Hoth. If they do a really good version I might even buy it--I bought Mos Eisley, after all, despite having at least two smaller Cantina sets!

All you people complaining about Assault on Hoth, I am graciously willing to dispose of any sealed copy you may be trying to divest yourself if. I won’t even charge much for the disposal fee.

vote ewok village...

Do we really need to revisit any of them at the moment?
Not really, when there are so many other cool things they could do instead of rehashing old ideas.
The last 'yet another X-Wing' was a perfect example of a wasted opportunity.

We need some good starfighter or playset style UCS kits like Mos Eisley, especially as it didn't have the stupid £500+ price tag. You could make a huge list so here's just a few.

Battle Over The Sarlacc (Khetanna, Sarlacc, 2 Skiffs)
Battle For Endor (Endor Bunker, Endor diorama, AT-ST, can connect with Ewok Village)
Geonosis Arena (Arena playset with Reek, Nexu and Acklay)
Darkness On Umbara (2 or 3 Umbaran battle vehicles with 501st and 212th Clone Troopers)
Liberty On Ryloth (Separatist MTT, STAPs, Blurgs Cham Syndulla, Twi'lek freedm fighters, Mace Windu)

Eta-Actis 2 starfighter
Aethersprite Delta 7B starfighter
Z-95 Headhunter
Droid Tri-Fighter
Hyena Droid Bomber
Droid Fighter
ARC-170
V-19 Torrent

@Trooper1308 said:
"Do we really need to revisit any of them at the moment?
Not really, when there are so many other cool things they could do instead of rehashing old ideas.
The last 'yet another X-Wing' was a perfect example of a wasted opportunity.

We need some good starfighter or playset style UCS kits like Mos Eisley, especially as it didn't have the stupid £500+ price tag. You could make a huge list so here's just a few.

Battle Over The Sarlacc (Khetanna, Sarlacc, 2 Skiffs)
Battle For Endor (Endor Bunker, Endor diorama, AT-ST, can connect with Ewok Village)
Geonosis Arena (Arena playset with Reek, Nexu and Acklay)
Darkness On Umbara (2 or 3 Umbaran battle vehicles with 501st and 212th Clone Troopers)
Liberty On Ryloth (Separatist MTT, STAPs, Blurgs Cham Syndulla, Twi'lek freedm fighters, Mace Windu)

Eta-Actis 2 starfighter
Aethersprite Delta 7B starfighter
Z-95 Headhunter
Droid Tri-Fighter
Hyena Droid Bomber
Droid Fighter
ARC-170
V-19 Torrent"

All well and good, but the entire vote and discussion is about REMAKES. The “Wish List” for new UCS is a couple blocks down the lane…

What about Jabbas sail barge? That needs to be re released ucs size

What about a new UCS Imperial Shuttle?

@TheSoundOfWhiteNoise said:
" @magpie9 said:
"I'm surprised the Imperial Shuttle didn't make the cut."

It is already perfect.
The best they can do is just re-release it."

I would have no issue with that ??

Then a Tie Bomber and a Nebulon-B Frigate and I’m one very poor AFOL ??

I bought the figures from Ewok Village and all the Ewoks at the start of the year to commemorate Return of the Jedi. I'd probably buy a re-release but it'd have to be very detailed and take up less space than the previous set. I'm surprised Vader's x1 isn't higher up on the list and MBS sets are dominating the top spot. I'm guessing figures are a bigger priority for people considering MBS sets contain more figures but I'd much rather have a new x1 to go up against the TIE Fighter and TIE Interceptor next year.

I picked AT-ST