BrickLink Designer Program Series 4 sets now available for pre-order

Thanks Patrickbrans, the links helped huge. Got all my sets ordered.

One set was a bit glitchy and took multiple attempts, but overall much smoother than previous rounds! Seven minutes in and all wrapped up for me.

I can't log into my lego account...

Edit: It finally worked

Not going smooth at all over here. Site keeps crashing while logging into my account, even though I was already logged in prior to placing my orders. Grmbl.

EDIT: Of course it worked two minutes after I came to complain here. :'-) Got myself two castle sets.

Super simple and the easiest one yet. Absolutely no issues getting my order. There was maybe a slight delay from when it first opened to having item in the cart, but was under two minutes and hardly worth noting beyond past experiences with long delays.

I'm going the Medieval Seaside Market and Siege Encampment for sure. Like the Riverside Scholars. I'm on the fence about the Wild West Train and Merchant Boat. Guess I need to get off the fence sooner rather than later if I want to get these.

Every link from Bricklink (or the top post in this thread) takes me to the lego.com home page, not the product page. Searching for set numbers doesn't work either. Anybody experiencing this? How do you get to the product pages to place an order?

UPDATE: now the links take me to a page telling me I have added nothing to my cart.

I'm in Canada, by the way.

Wow, this was the smoothest one yet! Got all three sets I wanted.

Completely missed out on series 3 because of glitches. I think the 2 castle sets will be sold out in 2 hours. BET

Probably the smoothest I've had it go so far this time - there was a bit of lagging on the Lego.com end, which resulted in sets not going into the cart, then multiples going in on refresh. That caused a little bit of back and forth. Three sets (Seaside Market, Siege Encampment, and Wild West Train) all ordered in 5 minutes, and confirmation back from Lego by 16:15. Hope those having issues manage to get the sets they want.

@ QuagsireQing

Clinking on the links provided by Patrick worked for me. You just have to give it a second to go to the right page.

Doesn't let me order the train. Anyone else having this issue?

@Blazenhozen said:
"Doesn't let me order the train. Anyone else having this issue?"

Yes, same problem. Ordered the merchant boat fine and can add all the others to my cart, but for some reason the train link does not work.

@rtjepsen said:
"@ QuagsireQing

Clinking on the links provided by Patrick worked for me. You just have to give it a second to go to the right page. "

The page does take a second to load, but when it does, it's not the product page that appears. It's a page that says, "You don't have anything in your bag. Start shopping."

Same results in Chrome and Edge on my PC, and Chrome on my phone.

Good luck to all the designers.

That said, it's a relief to have no interest in any of the sets this round, and simply observe Series 4 without any sense of anxiety as to whether my order was successfully registered by TLC.

@DanDanTheLegoMan said:
" @Blazenhozen said:
"Doesn't let me order the train. Anyone else having this issue?"

Yes, same problem. Ordered the merchant boat fine and can add all the others to my cart, but for some reason the train link does not work."

Which browser are you using?

I picked up the Seaside Market and train set! Maybe an unpopular opinion, but, despite the piece count, Siege Encampment doesn't seem to be worth the cost, especially if you don't have a castle. Just a lot of scattered modules, albeit quite detailed.

@DanDanTheLegoMan said:
" @Blazenhozen said:
"Doesn't let me order the train. Anyone else having this issue?"

Yes, same problem. Ordered the merchant boat fine and can add all the others to my cart, but for some reason the train link does not work."

I'm now finding the same. I thought the whole thing was broken, since I was only trying to add the Wild West Train. When I tried the other sets, they worked, but still no luck on the Wild West Train.

Anyone in Canada been able to get the Wild West Train?

@QuagsireQing said:
" @DanDanTheLegoMan said:
" @Blazenhozen said:
"Doesn't let me order the train. Anyone else having this issue?"

Yes, same problem. Ordered the merchant boat fine and can add all the others to my cart, but for some reason the train link does not work."

Which browser are you using?"

Chrome. Tried on my phone too. Seems like maybe it's an issue for Canadians with the train.

Has anyone from Canada successfully ordered the train ?

@QuagsireQing said:
" @rtjepsen said:
"@ QuagsireQing

Clinking on the links provided by Patrick worked for me. You just have to give it a second to go to the right page. "

The page does take a second to load, but when it does, it's not the product page that appears. It's a page that says, "You don't have anything in your bag. Start shopping."

Same results in Chrome and Edge on my PC, and Chrome on my phone."

It looks like it cannot be ordered from Canada.
I can add it into the cart if I switch to the US site.

I also went with the Seaside Market & the Train. Missed out on the one set I wanted last round due to having surgery that morning. It's going to be an expensive year because there are two sets in the next round I know I'll be ordering also.

"Based on your current location, we are not able to ship to your country. Read our FAQ for more info on participating countries."

It is high time they fix this.

I'm from Canada and does not let me order the train.

Seaside leading Siege by a hair with the train noticeably trailing. It's going to be a photo finish.

I have to wonder the percentage of people who buy these to actually build vs the people who buy just to "invest."

The order process actually worked smoothly for a change. Perhaps Lego finally fixed its IT infrastructure?

This is the first series for which I have not ordered anything. For the first time, I didn't care for any of these designs. I'll be back to ordering when it's time for Series 5.

@Onatu said:
"I have to wonder the percentage of people who buy these to actually build vs the people who buy just to "invest.""

I would be interested in this too, having brought some off eBay because of missed opportunities or changing my mind. The last train I managed to get at orp off eBay, so it's not always the case that they prove to be a good investment.

Also I always have to order these via chrome on my laptop, as the scrollbar never works in my preferred browser on this part of the site.

Does anyone know when series 3 is shipped?

@Tochi said:
"From Canada, and having the same issue with the train. I just got off the phone with customer service. They cannot order it on their internal system for us either, but have raised a priority ticket to their developers to get this resolved. The rep cannot provide any ETA on resolution unfortunately. :( "

Thanks for doing that. I've been on hold with them for the last 25 minutes to do the same thing; now I can hang up!

I hope they get it fixed soon; orders have shot up drastically in the last fifteen minutes.

@merman said:
"Does anyone know when series 3 is shipped?"

Bricklink notes shipping begins March 2025
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/series-3/main.page

@CVilleBricks said:
" @merman said:
"Does anyone know when series 3 is shipped?"

Bricklink notes shipping begins March 2025
https://www.bricklink.com/v3/designer-program/series-3/main.page "

The timing works out that I will have just saved enough for series 4 when it gets shipped!

Barring any more Lego expenditure.

They ought to try and provide something temporarily for Canada at least on the train, so they have a record of those who want it, because the lengthy deadline to get the sets rarely lasts for the popular ones.

As cool as the Siege Encampment is, Series 5 (Transylvania, Popcorn cart, Thieves of Tortuga) and Series 6 (Goldmine, Outlaw Forest Den, Art Factory) have too many superior sets to plunder my wallet, so decided to pass on this series for the first time.

Hey guys, what BDP models do you want to see people make in future waves that aren't castles / trains / pirates?

Just got a callback from LEGO Canada Customer Service. The representative said (no doubt a message directed from higher ups), "We are working on the problem, but I can assure you there are plenty of sets. Keep refreshing and you WILL get it. Thank you for your patience."

With the set nearly half sold out, I don't know that I share his rosy outlook, but keeping our eyes on it is all we can do.

@fourstud said:
"Hey guys, what BDP models do you want to see people make in future waves that aren't castles / trains / pirates?"

I would like unusual sets, there were some great ones in the voting for season six, odd colours, designed to be floating, sets that are fantastical and original, not a variation on a Lego theme.

Reminder: If you are on the fence at all, ORDER. You can always cancel between now and July. But you won't be able to order later.

The train is available in Canada now! :D

Thank you to all of our Canadian sentinels for sounding the alert. Got my orders in for the train and market.

@yellowcastle said:
"Reminder: If you are on the fence at all, ORDER. You can always cancel between now and July. But you won't be able to order later."

I second this. Ordered the Wild West Train myself.

Looks like Canada just got their Ticket to Ride!

The Medieval Seaside Market and the Siege Encampment are almost sold out.

@daniellesa said:
" @Onatu said:
"I have to wonder the percentage of people who buy these to actually build vs the people who buy just to "invest.""

I would be interested in this too, having brought some off eBay because of missed opportunities or changing my mind. The last train I managed to get at orp off eBay, so it's not always the case that they prove to be a good investment.

Also I always have to order these via chrome on my laptop, as the scrollbar never works in my preferred browser on this part of the site."

In reality, these shouldn't be particularly good investment sets, despite their limited nature.

The program requires that sets be designed from a palette of parts that will be available thru Pick-a-Brick Online for, we'll call it "the next production cycle", which since the sets are going to be several months out from pre-order to delivery, and were several months in development phases, means those parts are available for a year or more at least, and/or are regular common elements. There aren't any unique molds, and there aren't any unique prints. The only potential unique element is the sticker sheet, and the box if that's your thing. Not even printed instructions.

In other words, get yourself a high quality printer/sticker paper, and start selling "used, without box" copies the day after the inventory is made available? :p

It sure would be interesting to see what number of these do end living in their box on a shelf as a perceived investment, or "collector item" tho.

For my part, my copy of 910029 still sits in its "ready to ship" box, never having had the seals cut, cause I haven't found the time/energy to deal with an entirely digital build of that size. Haven't cared for building digital on a couple of the Mario sets I've built in the past, and those were much much smaller.

@279
How economically feasible is that to replicate these sets through "Pick-a-Brick Online"? The cents per part price is higher than average sets but not worse than many licensed sets. I would imagine ordering the brick seperately would come with a huge surcharge?

That thechnique would only put a hard upper limit at the price increase and possible profit, say max doubling it, and not going past that as some other sets have?

@279 said:
" @daniellesa said:
" @Onatu said:
"I have to wonder the percentage of people who buy these to actually build vs the people who buy just to "invest.""

I would be interested in this too, having brought some off eBay because of missed opportunities or changing my mind. The last train I managed to get at orp off eBay, so it's not always the case that they prove to be a good investment.

Also I always have to order these via chrome on my laptop, as the scrollbar never works in my preferred browser on this part of the site."

In reality, these shouldn't be particularly good investment sets, despite their limited nature.

The program requires that sets be designed from a palette of parts that will be available thru Pick-a-Brick Online for, we'll call it "the next production cycle", which since the sets are going to be several months out from pre-order to delivery, and were several months in development phases, means those parts are available for a year or more at least, and/or are regular common elements. There aren't any unique molds, and there aren't any unique prints. The only potential unique element is the sticker sheet, and the box if that's your thing. Not even printed instructions.

In other words, get yourself a high quality printer/sticker paper, and start selling "used, without box" copies the day after the inventory is made available? :p

It sure would be interesting to see what number of these do end living in their box on a shelf as a perceived investment, or "collector item" tho.

For my part, my copy of 910029 still sits in its "ready to ship" box, never having had the seals cut, cause I haven't found the time/energy to deal with an entirely digital build of that size. Haven't cared for building digital on a couple of the Mario sets I've built in the past, and those were much much smaller."

910029 is stunning. I am ashamed that I now regret letting my son build it. :o)

I plan to download the instructions for the Siege Encampment when they become available. I know I already have a lot of the parts in my inventory so I couldn't see spending the money for the set as there are some parts of it I'm not really interested in and I know I have a lot of the parts for the included minifigs.

I got the Medieval Seaside Market and the Siege Encampment . But, as has happened before, the rewards center is missing the vouchers option, and I couldn't activate a discount code. Has this happened to anyone else?

@mitra said:
"I got the Medieval Seaside Market and the Siege Encampment . But, as has happened before, the rewards center is missing the vouchers option, and I couldn't activate a discount code. Has this happened to anyone else?"

You don't need / they don't have vouchers anymore. You just apply what you have points-wise in checkout via a button, and then select how much you want to apply.

Looks like the two Castle related sets will be the first to sell out. Fairly quickly, but still plenty of time for fans to get their order in.

Meet you all on eBay!

The LEGO renders/photos (?) of the BL Designer Program sets are so much nicer than the fan submitted pictures! It stinks you lose those original fan submitted pictures on Bricklink, but boy do those new images make me want to buy all of the sets...

@laibros said:
"Ordered 2 sets. Worked relatively fine like 10 seconds after it was enabled :)"

Medieval Seaside Market was the only one I wanted and luckily I was able to preorder it. At least it lasted, what, three hours before it was sold out?

@yellowcastle said:
" @LT587 said:
"Looks like the two Castle related sets will be the first to sell out. Fairly quickly, but still plenty of time for fans to get their order in. "

3 1/2 hours is not necessarily "plenty of time."

Medieval Seaside Market is gone."

Siege Encampment is gone now too.

Excellent looking builds, but pretty much what I was expecting.

There are some good sets for a D&D series here.

Got onto the site just in time to order the Siege, plus I picked up the train as well. Sorry to have missed the Seaside Market, but at least the instructions will be available to download so I can make some of the modules using Harry Potter-colored walls. Now I need to settle in and wait for the Transylvanian masterpiece!

@sklamb said:
"Got onto the site just in time to order the Siege, plus I picked up the train as well. Sorry to have missed the Seaside Market, but at least the instructions will be available to download so I can make some of the modules using Harry Potter-colored walls. Now I need to settle in and wait for the Transylvanian masterpiece!"

I may be most excited about that after my experience with his Mountain Fortress.

@Murdoch17 said:
" @mitra said:
"I got the Medieval Seaside Market and the Siege Encampment . But, as has happened before, the rewards center is missing the vouchers option, and I couldn't activate a discount code. Has this happened to anyone else?"

You don't need / they don't have vouchers anymore. You just apply what you have points-wise in checkout via a button, and then select how much you want to apply."

Yes, I've read about this, but it was not the case with my purchase. I believe different countries / markets have different settings - and mine was certainly not working well.

Yet again a 0300 / 3am eastern Australia wake-up for this addiction! Certainly it was worth it to secure the gamut of BDP series 4 sets... and stretching the budget / marital friendship to ensure two each of what were always going to be the most popular: 910045 Siege Encampment, 910047 Medieval Seaside Market, and 910044 Wild West Train (I'm sure that will sell out soon enough!)

Missed out on the market :(

I forgot this was today and missed out on both castle sets while at the office, I wish they lasted longer

"Update (20:40 UTC): Siege Encampment and Medieval Seaside Market have both sold out."

*Sigh! What is the point when these sets are immediately sold out?!?!

Total bummer! Well, too bad. Not going to pay ridiculous after market prices.

@fmiskolc said:
"Kudos to LEGO, five minutes in and have everything ordered confirmation email received. Worked much much better than all the previous times!"

I had the same experience, three sets, in and out, within 5 minutes, including the confirmation mail from Lego that they were happy with my order. Now wait 6 months till they arrive..... :)

@mitra said:
" @Murdoch17 said:
" @mitra said:
"I got the Medieval Seaside Market and the Siege Encampment . But, as has happened before, the rewards center is missing the vouchers option, and I couldn't activate a discount code. Has this happened to anyone else?"

You don't need / they don't have vouchers anymore. You just apply what you have points-wise in checkout via a button, and then select how much you want to apply."

Yes, I've read about this, but it was not the case with my purchase. I believe different countries / markets have different settings - and mine was certainly not working well."

This happened to me a while back. I moved to the U.K. and discovered that in my My Account/Account Settings/My Information there was one place that still showed me as U.S., even though I'd been using U.K. SAH for over a year. Changing that one field to U.K. got the voucher/points setting to show up in my cart like it is supposed to. May be something else entirely of course but I was happy to find that.

I'm not sure what the point was extending the preorder deadline when some sets sell out in less than twenty four hours. There needs to be a rethink on that.

@daniellesa said:
"I'm not sure what the point was extending the preorder deadline when some sets sell out in less than twenty four hours. There needs to be a rethink on that."

It seems to be exactly the way they want it.

The train seems about 3/4's sold out. (give or take)

@Murdoch17 said:
"The train seems about 3/4's sold out. (give or take)"

It's a long train.

(gets my hat.)

@yellowcastle said:
" @TheBigLegoski said:
""Update (20:40 UTC): Siege Encampment and Medieval Seaside Market have both sold out."

*Sigh! What is the point when these sets are immediately sold out?!?!

Total bummer! Well, too bad. Not going to pay ridiculous after market prices. "
Keep an eye out. Aftermarket prices have not necessarily been unreasonable.
"

Agree. Especially after pushing the production up to 30k boxes, there's less profit margin for scalpers.

@yellowcastle said:
" @Murdoch17 said:
"The train seems about 3/4's sold out. (give or take)"

It's a long train.

(gets my hat.)"

'Down around around the corner, half a mile from here, see them coal trains run and watch 'em disappear...'

- Long Train Runnin' (by The Doobie Brothers)

@Murdoch17 said:
" @yellowcastle said:
" @Murdoch17 said:
"The train seems about 3/4's sold out. (give or take)"

It's a long train.

(gets my hat.)"

'Down around around the corner, half a mile from here, see them coal trains run and watch 'em disappear...'

- Long Train Runnin' (by The Doobie Brothers)"

Look to the heavens, you can look to the skies
You can find redemption starin' back into your eyes
There is protection and there's peace the same
Burnin' your ticket for that long black train

@StyleCounselor said:
" @daniellesa said:
"I'm not sure what the point was extending the preorder deadline when some sets sell out in less than twenty four hours. There needs to be a rethink on that."

It seems to be exactly the way they want it. "

Works both ways, Lego and us rushing to buy them.

Wonder why Lego has a hard limit on pre orders. They could just make more than 30k of the popular sets, both getting them more profit and allowing everyone that wants it to buy the set.

@Ottozone said:
"Wonder why Lego has a hard limit on pre orders. They could just make more than 30k of the popular sets, both getting them more profit and allowing everyone that wants it to buy the set."

But then the FOMO could dissipate.

@greycat said:
"My christmas gifts are allready bought ; seaside market(910047) and siege encampment(910045) .Bought two of each. One set for me and the other pair for my neighbor's kid .They can't afford the pricy SETS and i can. GREETINGS from Montréal."

Made me smile today. Needed it. Thanks.

Got distracted when it went live and missed out on the two medieval ones...oh well

@yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
"Wonder why Lego has a hard limit on pre orders. They could just make more than 30k of the popular sets, both getting them more profit and allowing everyone that wants it to buy the set."

But then the FOMO could dissipate. "

A non-guaranteed waitlist option would fix that. Extras made in lots of say, 5000?

@yellowcastle said:
" @Ottozone said:
"Wonder why Lego has a hard limit on pre orders. They could just make more than 30k of the popular sets, both getting them more profit and allowing everyone that wants it to buy the set."

But then the FOMO could dissipate. "

Given that Castle sets continue to sell out within hours, even after the limit on pre-orders has been increased, I don't think FOMO is what's driving their popularity. OTOH, it might be that these are not particularly profitable items, despite not appearing to be remarkable bargains. Since I don't want the prices to increase, I'm happy to let TLG maintain what they seem to have decided is a reasonable balance between supply and demand.

I like the look of the Wild West Train, but after building the Logging Train and other Bricklink Designer sets, I think I'm done throwing money at any future Bricklink sets. There are just too many janky construction techniques that Lego would have fixed if they were refined by the Lego design team.

...and I'm really only interested in the train. The water tower and windmill do not interest me at all and I wish they were left out to lower the cost. Yet another example of a designer including things that really weren't necessary.

I was only interested in the train, but I don't want the windmill nor the water tower, so I'm sitting this round out.

How come there are no instructions with the set? I didn't know that.
So how do you assemble the set? Where can I get the instructions?

@urosnose said:
"How come there are no instructions with the set? I didn't know that.
So how do you assemble the set? Where can I get the instructions?"

There are no "printed" instructions with the sets... once they ship you will be able to download a pdf version of the instructions from the Bricklink website.