Next Ideas review results coming tomorrow!

Hope for Geometry Dash, Mr. Bean, Sawmill, Overpass Park and a bunch of other ones. Not that I would buy them, though. But they do look cool.

I’m hoping for Summit Station and Camping Trip, but most of all one of the Mystery Shacks!

I'm guessing the large-scale book builds, Modular-type buildings (I though those were 'banned'?) Sherlock Holmes, Simpsons and a couple of other IPs are highly unlikely.

The moon map and Godzilla would be cool. But I'm always way off on my guesses for these.

Camping trip has a nice vibe going on.

I was really hoping for a Discworld set, but looking at the competition there is no chance they'd ever pick the Unseen University library. Shame, I'll have to make my own.

Needs a few more obviously doomed sets based on Disney IPs.

@Sandinista said:
" @Krutak said:
" @Sandinista said:
"The threshold sincerely needs to be higher. Why can't the 10K votes thing rise with inflation and the prices of sets? "

Why in the world? I think that 10K is just enough. More competition, more discussions, more broken souls of the ones who lost (your delightfully devilish, Krutak) :D"

I don't know what that last part is supposed to mean"

You don't have to...
*Insert a cartoonishly villainous laugh that makes absolutely no sense here*

Fingers crossed still hoping for Downton Abbey

My main issue with the number is that its the same it was back in the cuusoo era when the website was lesser known. Back when we had individual reviews??. It used to mean much more to hit this number. We can make reviews more selective and more special. Rn there are way too many good options per review.

Godzilla.

Enough said.

I like quite a few this time:
-The music and jewelry provides a different look on modular buidings with it’s unique arrangement.
-The muppet theater with a full band? Awesome display piece with some functions.
-Drilldozer: nostalgic nod to power miners….. althought the simplicity of the original model speaks to me more.
-16mm camera. With all the different kind of builds of camera’s in creator, icons and ideas ;This one is a beauty!
A treshold of 15k votes? It will show tlc that we REALLY want a set to be made.
But more time in between review periods is also a desire

I like a few of these, but I'm not sure I like any enough to buy--space and money have gotten tighter and it feels like these bigger display sets would just be out for a few months and then packed away until who knows when. This trend of wall art is nice to avoid that, though, and depending on how the finished Moon poster looks, I might still get that if it won.

I love the Cosmere one, although I do sort of wish it stuck to just the Stormlight Archive. There's just so many great scenes to depict!

I suspect that one would require too many custom pieces and printing though.

It's also interesting that it includes a number of figures that don't have any place in the dioram, like Szeth and Jasnah.

Well as always, alot of these simply haven't got a chance due to licensing issues, or similarity to current lego themes. Which makes me question, yet again, why aren't these submissions whittled out sooner when they've got no chance?

As for the sets themselves, I kinda like the Bob Ross one, though I'd probably not end up buying it. Only one I would buy, would be the Discworld Unseen University Library, though I'd hope that we got some better construction on all the characters of Rincewind, The Luggage and The Librarian, or decent mini-figs of them at least.

Bob's Burgers or nothing!

Okay, right off the bat, I gotta hope for Muppets because Muppets, and also because he’s a member of my LUG. And frogs because frogs. And Princess Bride. And Beetlejuice. And I don’t normally buy buildings, but I could be tempted by the Lake House.

Ratatouille won’t make it (Brickheadz), nor will Modular Hospital/Modular Library and Park (Modulars), and Springfield Elementary (Simpsons) and Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (Sherlock Holmes) just have the worst timing. Regarding the rest, I don’t want to divide the entire list up into will they/won’t they, but I feel like Taylor Swift and the two(!) Mystery Shacks are the longest of long shots at this point, having been rejected _so_many_ times already. Magic Bookends might run afoul of the new Book Nooks line (as much as I hate to say it, so might Princess Bride). The PS2 might cause issues with their Nintendo contracts. And the Modular Archer’s Workshop might have shot itself in the foot by using the word “Modular”.

Love the Godzilla!

Some interesting concepts here! I'm personally rooting for either version of the Mystery Shack, since my kids and I all adore Gravity Falls. But I know LEGO has passed on that concept before.

I also love the idea of a playable Clue game. The buildable Godzilla is pretty neat as well.

Based on previous LEGO selections, I think the microscope and the lunar landscape both have a good chance of being selected.

@DekoPuma said:
"I love the Cosmere one, although I do sort of wish it stuck to just the Stormlight Archive. There's just so many great scenes to depict!

I suspect that one would require too many custom pieces and printing though.

It's also interesting that it includes a number of figures that don't have any place in the dioram, like Szeth and Jasnah."

Finally, some Brando Sando love! I will admit that it is unlikely to be picked though. I really hope it does, but my more realistic choices would be the moon one and the cliffside house.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Sandinista said:
"The threshold sincerely needs to be higher. Why can't the 10K votes thing rise with inflation and the prices of sets? "

Why? Have you been physically maimed by the number of contenders? Are children starving as a direct result of having a bloated class? The Ideas team will whittle things down as they feel is necessary, and the bigger risk is that ramping up the threshold will simply cause the review classes to skew even more heavily towards IP-based projects. Since they have to produce at least 50% non-IP, all that’s going to accomplish is _LESS_ total sets being released, as it may eliminate viable non-IP projects in favor of ones that don’t have a chance of getting approved."

I disagree

Bolex camera

Easy pass, my wallet says thanks. The only one I'd be tempted by is Portal 2, and I can't imagine they still have the license for it.

I need the Microscope, Lake House, Italian Villa, or Bob's Burgers to make it through!!

I'm just gonna go ahead and predict that neither Gravity Falls project will get approved; if they were gonna pick a Mystery Shack, I feel like they would have done so last round which also had one reach this stage. A shame in my view, since that's easily the biggest appeal to me out of this list (that and Howl's Moving Castle; but while I love that movie, I'm not that interested in a build of the castle itself?), but I can't argue with past evidence at least.

Nothing else here that particularly interests me - although the Italian Villa does look neat - so we'll see I guess.

@Sandinista said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Sandinista said:
"The threshold sincerely needs to be higher. Why can't the 10K votes thing rise with inflation and the prices of sets? "

Why? Have you been physically maimed by the number of contenders? Are children starving as a direct result of having a bloated class? The Ideas team will whittle things down as they feel is necessary, and the bigger risk is that ramping up the threshold will simply cause the review classes to skew even more heavily towards IP-based projects. Since they have to produce at least 50% non-IP, all that’s going to accomplish is _LESS_ total sets being released, as it may eliminate viable non-IP projects in favor of ones that don’t have a chance of getting approved."

I disagree "

Ok, I'll bite. What would the practical benefit be of raising the threshold?

I want the Mystery Shack so bad!

How many Gravity Falls sets have gotten 10K votes at this point? I swear I see one every other round of results.

@Meadius said:
"How many Gravity Falls sets have gotten 10K votes at this point? I swear I see one every other round of results."

At least five. Two of them were a while ago; and I think one - whether of those or a different one, I'm not sure - was disqualified, although I don't fully remember the reason why. Then we'd gone a while without any, until the most recent round had one; plus, of course, the two here as well.

This is one of the cases where you'd think if Lego was so determinedly not interested, they'd remove Gravity Falls from the list of allowed IP and be done with it. I guess they have some reason to keep letting them get this far though.

I would love the Princess Bride set to make it, but I don't think it will since the IP has appeared numerous times and always rejected. The selection looks pretty respectable this time although other comments have already mentioned the obvious conflicts.

The Moon portrait seems fairly likely to pass - it's both educational and fits into Lego's art bent they're on.

There's too many options for me to bother putting in analytical effort for most of them, but I hope Muppets passes (though unlikely).

As unlikely as it is to happen, I would KILL to have a Deep Rock Galactic set.

As someone who is actively gathering votes on Lego Ideas, 10k votes seems plenty high, but I am biased. :)

I do question how a Pixar themed Brickheadz project got to 10k, but congrats on the achievement I suppose.

It does seem like the rules could be adjusted based on how the platform is now. I don’t know if it’s raising the vote threshold, or if other changes are warranted.

Please let gravity falls win, please let gravity falls win!

@PurpleDave said:
" @lego4elio said:
"This line of reasoning is so wrong. If the threshold is raised and only 15 or so make it in, then those will be the most deserving and popular."

And that is no guarantee that any of the projects that reach that point will, or even can, be approved. If all they have to pick from is ten Modulars, it’s a quick meeting to reject them all for conflicting with an existing product line. The more they have to choose between, the more likely _something_ is to be selected.

"Who cares if they're IP or not."

They do. They don’t want IP projects to overwhelm the theme, so they imposed a minimum 50% non-IP on approvals. That means if you get ten projects and they’re all IP-based, nothing can be approved. If nine are IP, then it comes down to whether or not the lone non-IP project is even viable (and chances are, it’s just another Modular shooting for BLDP after it gets auto-rejected). On the slim chance that one non-IP set is approved, only then can they approve _one_ IP set.

"For example, is the demand really equal from fans between a Peter Rabbit set and a Taylor Swift set?"

Does it matter if they are? Taylor Swift projects have been rejected several times, and if they’ve knocked on her door and been quoted too high a licensing fee (or been flat out refused), flooding the reviews with more Taylor Swift projects is never going to change things.

@Agnew:
The only two practical effects I can see are that we’d maybe go a year or two with nobody complaining that the threshold should be raised, and that those who feel a compulsion to stay 100% complete on Cuusoo/Ideas would suddenly find they have less to spend money on. The downside is then we’ll start getting complaints that the review classes are too small, and too many review classes pass with zero projects getting approved. Because you know that’s exactly how it would play out."

In terms of the 50% rule, that is all true, and I grant you're more informed on that than I am. But I would disagree that that should even be a rule in the first place. I think it's silly to have a quota in individual reviews. Pick what is best for the customers based on that particular review.

In terms of the Taylor Swift, I used that as an example. Not really advocating for that one specifically. I'm just making the point that having a 10,000 club narrows the pool not just to make it more manageable for the review board, but also to give them a good impression of what is most highly demanded. The larger that pool becomes, the more meaningless 10,000 supports becomes in determining actual customer demand. One project could be moderately demanded and another could be highly demanded. But if moderate demand is enough to get you to 10k, then the two projects are treated the same

Team
The little green frog jumps over the moon poster

All boring and not interesting. It's the old same soup.
People have no creativity or just want a popular IP made.
The only one who's cute and interesting is the lily pad frogs, very adorable.

@CapnRex101 said:
" @djcbs said:
"People seriously need to stop with the "UTC" nonsense. It's NOT A TIMEZONE. It's a time standard invented by the useless UN.
Saying "1pm UTC" means ZERO to anyone. For the love of God, just GMT which is the actual standard timezone to which every other timezone adds or subtracts."

Firstly, '1pm UTC' clearly means something to you, at least.

Anyway, my reasoning for using UTC is that if I used GMT, people might reasonably wonder whether I have forgotten it is now summer time and meant to put BST, or whether I actually did mean GMT. UTC avoids all doubt."

UTC has been the official standard for longer than most people on this website have been alive, so I think you're ok to use it. Technically though it should be 1pm UTC+0, not just 1pm UTC. And to cater for a wider audience you'd want to use 13:00 rather than 1pm.
I think most people also know what GMT is; it's the same time, since GMT is UTC+0. It doesn't matter to the rest of the world that Britain is currently on BST or UTC+1.

A Princess Bride set?

Inconceivable.

Quite a few IP related ideas I like. I guess I will wait and see what they say. I can only hope none of the ones I like get picked since moneys...

Ooh, those frogs are adorable. Pretty sure they’d pair quite well with the kingfisher

I don’t think it has any chance of getting selected, but I would love to see the Round House get chosen. It’s based off a real on-mountain restaurant at Sun Valley, a ski resort that’s very close to my heart.

We spread my grandpa’s ashes nearby, it was his favorite place in the world.

It would be nice if the train station made it. It would go along nicely with the train coming soon from BLDP.

@Agnew said:
" @lego4elio said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @lego4elio said:
"This line of reasoning is so wrong. If the threshold is raised and only 15 or so make it in, then those will be the most deserving and popular."

And that is no guarantee that any of the projects that reach that point will, or even can, be approved. If all they have to pick from is ten Modulars, it’s a quick meeting to reject them all for conflicting with an existing product line. The more they have to choose between, the more likely _something_ is to be selected.

"Who cares if they're IP or not."

They do. They don’t want IP projects to overwhelm the theme, so they imposed a minimum 50% non-IP on approvals. That means if you get ten projects and they’re all IP-based, nothing can be approved. If nine are IP, then it comes down to whether or not the lone non-IP project is even viable (and chances are, it’s just another Modular shooting for BLDP after it gets auto-rejected). On the slim chance that one non-IP set is approved, only then can they approve _one_ IP set.

"For example, is the demand really equal from fans between a Peter Rabbit set and a Taylor Swift set?"

Does it matter if they are? Taylor Swift projects have been rejected several times, and if they’ve knocked on her door and been quoted too high a licensing fee (or been flat out refused), flooding the reviews with more Taylor Swift projects is never going to change things.

@Agnew:
The only two practical effects I can see are that we’d maybe go a year or two with nobody complaining that the threshold should be raised, and that those who feel a compulsion to stay 100% complete on Cuusoo/Ideas would suddenly find they have less to spend money on. The downside is then we’ll start getting complaints that the review classes are too small, and too many review classes pass with zero projects getting approved. Because you know that’s exactly how it would play out."

In terms of the 50% rule, that is all true, and I grant you're more informed on that than I am. But I would disagree that that should even be a rule in the first place. I think it's silly to have a quota in individual reviews. Pick what is best for the customers based on that particular review.

In terms of the Taylor Swift, I used that as an example. Not really advocating for that one specifically. I'm just making the point that having a 10,000 club narrows the pool not just to make it more manageable for the review board, but also to give them a good impression of what is most highly demanded. The larger that pool becomes, the more meaningless 10,000 supports becomes in determining actual customer demand. One project could be moderately demanded and another could be highly demanded. But if moderate demand is enough to get you to 10k, then the two projects are treated the same"

But haven't we already seen that 10000 supporters is essentially meaningless? Hundreds of ideas pass that threshold and never get approved for many reasons. To me, all 10000 supporters earns you is an evaluation by the Lego Ideas team. The decision is still entirely in their hands, and the number of people who clicked an "I like" button seems to be a minor factor at best."

I agree. Higher threshold = fewer projects get in = less decision power for review board and more decision power for fans.

The review board is limited by what we vote in. Why would we want to vote in hordes of projects? It just dilutes our influence as fans

Lots of good entries. Ones I'd most like to reach the next stage:-
Turing Machine
The Moon
Lily Pad Frogs
Microscope
Bolex 16mm Camera

Princess Bride (but only if it includes a Mark Knopfler sound brick!)

@CapnRex101 said:
" @djcbs said:
"People seriously need to stop with the "UTC" nonsense. It's NOT A TIMEZONE. It's a time standard invented by the useless UN.
Saying "1pm UTC" means ZERO to anyone. For the love of God, just GMT which is the actual standard timezone to which every other timezone adds or subtracts."

Firstly, '1pm UTC' clearly means something to you, at least.

Anyway, my reasoning for using UTC is that if I used GMT, people might reasonably wonder whether I have forgotten it is now summer time and meant to put BST, or whether I actually did mean GMT. UTC avoids all doubt."

I've heard of UTC not the rest that $W^$^

I mean... all time-standards are made up. All timezones are made up.

They mostly exist so we can tell time what it is.

I love the animals one with the deer, fox and squirrels. But imo a lot of these are the same type of project. I agree that the ideas team really need to increase the votes threshold. 10,000 in terms of lego fans and consumers really is a tiny number

@PurpleDave

My Lego Ideas project is non-IP. It's a "Speed Champions" scale school bus with both Type C and Type D styles. Lego has never had a school bus that nails the design in my opinion. My first launch was in 2016 and did pretty well.

The Fortnite school bus shares some design choices which I consider a compliment. I still think there's room in the lineup for a non-blue one.

I am most fascinated by the Turing Machine.
It could be the ultimate LEGO Technic set.
But alas, I see zero chance for it getting chosen.
Maybe for one of the next rounds of the BLDP.

I'd be tempted with 'The Moon: Lunar Landscape' so long as I could invert the moon so that it reflected (!) the view from here in the Southern Hemisphere.

Oops - I note that the designer has included an option to flip the design for builders in the Southern Hemisphere. Brilliant!

My guess is Gremlin Gizmo will make it through, and possibly the Frogs but the rest I just can’t see it. Personally I would buy the Portal Robots in a heartbeat.

Arguably it would be interesting if even once a project has passed 10,000 supporters, people could continue to support (for a period). That wouldn't necessarily change the number that get through, but it would provide an interesting metric of interest and differentiation between successful projects, although I imagine it would just mean that IP projects might reach 30,000 for example, while others only scrape by, which could lead to unfair attention from Lego.

I know it's from last round but man I would love a model of the Tin Tin rocket, it's such an iconic design. I don't need the launch tower, or even for it to be that big. Something bookshelf sized would do.

My personal favorite is the Turing machine.

However, I honestly see it as probably the least likely to ever see release....

@Brickalili said:
"Ooh, those frogs are adorable. Pretty sure they’d pair quite well with the kingfisher "

Pretty sure they want nothing at all to do with those murderous beasts.

@Nuclearxpotato:
Within certain reasonable limits, any project is allowed to shoot for the 10k Club. It just won't get approved, if it dips into an active theme. If you posted a drug-fueled orgy getting shot up by an escaped convict, they'll probably bounce your project off the site, but there's no harm in letting a doomed Modular make it into the review class. These days, however, the "small" Ideas sets tend to be the result of contests with much lower part limits, intended for release as a GWP or a VIP Reward item, unfortunately. There have been several projects that would have made great sub-$50 sets, but they almost never get approved these days.

@lego4elio:
Don't assume that everyone is in agreement on which projects should get approved. All you have to do is read the comments to see that's not the case. More projects going to review means more people see the projects that matter to them having a crack at getting approved. And also some Modulars get 10k Club bragging rights.

@yellowcastle:
So one possibility would be to not cap supporters at the threshold to go to review. Let them keep building support, and you'd get a better sense of just how popular something is. Would it just clear 10k? Could it maybe manage 50k, or even 100k? Of course, the downside to that is that a project that clears the bar right after a new review class closes would get an additional four months to keep racking up votes, where a project that makes it in under the wire gets shorted all that extra time. In a way, it would punish you for being just popular enough to not carry over into the next review class.

@missedoutagain:
GMT is Greenwich Mean Time. It's the 0 line that's exactly opposite the International Date Line (which is both +12 and -12, depending on which side of the line you're sitting on). All other time zones are expressed in terms of GMT +/- X.

@legofanboy:
Reading the comments, there's apparently already a Gizmo character build coming, so that one bounces off the Existing IP wall, just like Sherlock Holmes.

The frogs are nice. Nothing else really stands out as anything I'd buy given my limited space and budget, although the level of creativity and LEGO skilz is awesome.

I like the bookends concept, and I would have bought it. There have been several versions of it. But the best bookends set we had was the train tunnel one, and it wasn't selected, so I've kind of given up.

https://beta.ideas.lego.com/product-ideas/8c132cc3-b4af-44fe-bb80-5cc89a157dcb

The Moon, Bob Ross Studio, and Round House are my top picks!

It is high, high time that Polar Express or Gravity Falls gets approved. LEGO has solid ties to WB and Disney so I have no clue how they haven't been made yet.

Will this finally be the time for Gravity Falls?!? (Probably not, but one can hope)

Other than that, I’d love to see the Muppet Theater or Godzilla.

Still hoping for Tintin the most...

Music and Jewelry is the only one I'd buy (even though its never going to be picked), or Tintin if that gets through.

That Modular Hospital looks great, but Godzilla and the Mysteriy Shacks.... That Working Telescope.

I do like the Microscope, Woodland Wildlife, Lily Pad Frogs as nature and science themed sets that could make the cut. I have my fingers crossed for these!

The Italian Villa, Overpass Park, and Camping Trip are also very impressive designs that I would've voted for if I was more active on Ideas.

A lot of crazy big structures and license ideas, per usual. I am a little surprised at how many book designs made it in. I guess folks must be really inspired by the upcoming Book Nook sets.

So many great projects. I'd go for the PS2 but would be happy with many of them.

ROCK! AND! STONE!

If you post the announcement tomorrow please do not spoiler. Put the result after the break please!

Too many licences, too many modular buildings.
But saying that, Godzilla looks visually interesting (as opposed to another weird playset that only means something to the audience of the licence) as does Atlas and P-body.

Personal favourite is the Moon one

@norranradd said:
"Hoping for the PS2, Godzilla or the Polar Express"

Good news

I want a lot of these!