LEGO Ideas First 2020 Review results revealed!
Posted by TheBrickPal,
The LEGO Ideas First 2020 Review has concluded and the results have been published on the LEGO Ideas blog.
Find out which of the 26 projects we're getting as a set, and what may still be under consideration, after the break...
The Earth Globe by Disneybrick55 will be arriving on store shelves soon! I suppose it's not entirely surprising, given LEGO's love for giving us large scale objects recently.
"The Earth Globe is iconic right off the bat and comes with many fascinating opportunities from educational possibilities to retro display value. In addition, it's a complex and unique build that's never before seen in an official LEGO set."
Sonic Mania - Green Hill Zone by toastergrl is still under consideration, which is exciting for fans of the game such as myself! I very much hope they find a way to get it made.
Additionally, the results of the Music to our Ears contest have been revealed, with TOMOELL's Legendary Stratocaster chosen for production.
"Despite only placing in 7th place in the fan vote part of the contest with 427 votes, it rocked the socks off our review board for whom it was an instant hit, worthy of the rock 'n' roll hall of fame! Between it's iconic status in music history and it's unique details, building techniques and display possibilities, we're sure this will be a billboard hit!"
The Second 2020 Review's results will arrive early 2021.
What do you think of the results? Are you looking forward to these two sets? And what do you hope to be chosen next time? Let us know in the comments below!
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Well those are kinda lame IMO. At least I have a break now from buying Ideas sets!
Least exciting Ideas announcement ever?
Wish they’d just reveal Sesame Street already. We’ve all seen the figs...
These are actually pretty cool! unless it's over $120, I'll probably buy the globe to turn it into a death star, it does suck though that the iron giant wasn't chosen, my mom would have LOVED it
The Globe was so clear it would be approved (and it's good).
Sonic ... oh well, doesn't trigger me as a franchise or as a good build.
With so many sets to choose from, and the tendency to do more than one set per round, it's a bit disappointing not to have a second one chosen.
I think the biggest surprise is that only one was chosen out of 26, when review periods of 10-12 have gotten two or three. I guess the other Music to Our Ears contest winner took up one of the spots.
This is the first time in a while that the reveal did nothing for me. 26 projects and they only picked one? They’ve had 3 products come from one review in the past that had half of the ideas this one did. Maybe I’m biased because I really wanted Iron Giant, but this just doesn’t excite me. The new “almost always gets selected” theme is display pieces for offices or living rooms- ship in a bottle, typewriter, globe- what’s next, a telescope?
'I was hoping for Zelda, why are you here?' Lego Maul.
That said, though chosen to vaguely interest me, but I'll wait for the finished product and it's price before I start to look forward to them.
The Globe is kinda cool and I might pick this up depending the refinements on the final design. The fan submission is lacking a bit IMO but the concept is good.
Absolutely no interest in a Sonic set.
The guitar concept is really impressive. Looking forward to seeing how much customization they allow in the retail set...colors, etc. I won't be a buyer but if they can keep that around $70 I think it'll fly off the shelves.
I dunno... While there were many projects that certainly deserved to win, I'm glad the globe will be produced.
I think it will look great next to the (21313) Ship in a Bottle.
The globe looks brilliant, and I'm certainly looking forward to seeing the final product.
Super disappointed that we won't be getting the Gemini capsule though (I know, I know, people complain we already have too many space-themed sets, but personally, I can't get enough of them)
Congratulations to the winners. But as CCC points out, the globe kind of inverts the value curve for Lego. A Lego representation of a real or fictional vehicle or building may be an expensive toy, but it's only a small fraction of the cost of "the real thing." A Lego grand piano costs a good portion of the amount a real playable electronic keyboard does, and is much less functional. A Lego mosaic costs much more than an equally sized wall poster of the same subject. A Lego NES costs more than a real functional NES classic or even a used classic NES. Now the Lego globe is sure to cost way more than a real globe. The build will be interesting, and easily adapted for any number of MOCs, but it'll have a fraction of the educational value of a real globe for several times the cost. I don't know how much a real Stratocaster costs on eBay or how much a decent electric guitar costs in general, so I won't comment on that, but in general I just think it's remarkable how this trend of replicating everyday objects at close to true scale inverts the value curve so much.
Very nice! I like both of these. The globe I'll definitely get, it's right down my alley. The guitar I'll have to see what they make of it (I don't want a life-size model of 9000 pieces costing $800 :)
Not really into the Sonic idea, but it looks fun and colorful from a distance
Well, I like the globe, it'll go well with the recently revived Ship in a Bottle.
Although it's kinda underwhelming that they picked only one set out of so many.
But hey...at least it wasn't another freaking Space set.
I like the globe. Don't like the second set. I'm a guitar player and even then I'm not interested in the guitar...
Well, a bit disappointed, there were so many good sets in this batch.
I’m very disappointed. I figured the globe would get picked and hopefully it’ll look cool. But out of all those sets that’s the ONLY one you pick? And there were some really cool non-licensed sets in there. Personally, I was really hoping for the Gemini capsule and the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
If I can quote myself from early May when this round was announced:
"If I had to put my money on one I'd pick the globe."
I'm a bit surprised Chitty Chitty Bang Bang didn't get through. Well-designed, pretty model, doesn't offend any company values, appeals to the nostalgia of adults with enough pocket money...
"If I wanted a globe, I'd buy a more accurate, detailed globe for one tenth the price that this will be."
Yeah, sure. The same could be said about plastic model cars (cheaper, more accurate) but that doesn't stop me from buying, building, and displaying nearly all of the Creator Vehicles. I'm not alone in this. The globe is an accessible item that might interest a wide variety of people, not just AFOLs. I could easily see it in someone's office, someone who may or may not be inclined to display a LEGO set. This set will be a sales winner.
I'm surprised by the generally negative reception here in the comments. Looking at the other 24 in the review, none were really clear choices for Lego to go for, in my opinion. The globe is at least an interesting and unique build... not every Ideas set needs to be a sitcom minifigure pack or real-life spacecraft.
I'm thrilled about the Stratocaster. I thought it should have won the music contest and as long as they learn their lessons from the Grand Piano - prioritise the build over the gimmicky features, and don't be afraid to let the model look like Lego - it should be great.
- Not another NASA/Space related idea;
- Not another sitcom idea;
- Not another obsucure 1940/50/60/70/80s series or movie idea that usually only has appeal on the US;
- Not something that appeals only to the nostalgia of the 1980s Lego themes.
Both ideas are excellent. Sonic deserved a set ever since the Dimensions era. Always welcoming to see new sets based on video games.
Excited for the next review now.
I only need that "Sonic Mania - Green Hill Zone"
I wanted Krusty Krab or Zelda, but that’s okay I can finally save some money
@Duq said:
I'm a bit surprised Chitty Chitty Bang Bang didn't get through. Well-designed, pretty model, doesn't offend any company values, appeals to the nostalgia of adults with enough pocket money...]]
I would have liked it as well, but I suspect too many shiny bits...
I was certain that the Spongebob set would be a lock, but i guess not. Maybe this means that more spongebob sets are in the works? If not, then this is a pretty big disappointment.
Globe - very cool, that's a buy.
Sonic - Hard pass.
Guitar - maybe, will have to see cost.
Considering there's 3 or 4 in the subsequent IDEAS review that I'd like to see released, going to have to save money.
Support Huwbot!
Sonic Mania set but no Futurama set?
"Shut up and (don't) take my money!"
The problem with so many sets making the final round is that it lends fans to be disappointed; they see there being 26 projects eligible, so they expect a handful to be made. But that doesn't mean the eligible projects are eligible or would make good sets. The globe is interesting, and the Sonic set is logical considering past sets they've made. The guitars are kind of cool. @LegoMKB, they made Spongebob previously, and I think they have since relinquished that license to another company?
Either way, I didn't see them wanting to revisit it. Many of the others really are too niche at this point, despite being good models.
These are good choices. The globe will sell and Sonic is a fairly deep IP for Lego if you can get the right design.
Wow, I had no idea so many sets made it to the initial phase. Congrats to the selected ones!
Not a convincing selection. The globe will need some major revisions and in order to be both appealing and reasonably accurate it will probably end up being an expensive 3000 pieces set or something along those lines. I couldn't be bothered with Sonic these days, even if it was the first Mega Drive game and back then we played it like crazy.
No forestmen? :(
Nice! The Earth Globe would have been my number 1 wish and now it's actually coming! The KITT would have been super cool too, but the Globe alone makes me happy now. Here's wishing the final product is as good as the Ideas concept (or even better if possible).
At this point I'm convinced that Lego and Nintendo have to be working on some kind of Zelda line, I think this is the seventh time a Zelda set has been rejected. Anyway the globe is neat but I doubt I'll pick it up. Not a massive Sonic fan but I really enjoyed Mania so I may very well get it if it does indeed get made.
I guess there is a good reason the Saturn V and Ship in a Bottle are re - releasing. These are neat, but I am not going to be rushing out to buy them.
SONIC IS STILL IN THE RUNNING LETS GOOOOOO!!!
Good choice! The result shows that quantity is not the main factor. As long as Lego judges each idea independently of each other, regardless of number of submissions. Even the idea is not approved, the fan designers do get a consolation prize and the 10k club membership prestige. Congrats to all 10k winners!
My sons were excited about the Iron Giant, but I believe the joint design was inadequate for the weight. In particular, the knee joints are just simple, single-ball joints. Regardless of the IP issues, I expected that alone would disqualify this Idea. Too bad, really, because it's pretty cool.
@NathanR2015 said:
"The globe looks brilliant, and I'm certainly looking forward to seeing the final product.
Super disappointed that we won't be getting the Gemini capsule though (I know, I know, people complain we already have too many space-themed sets, but personally, I can't get enough of them)"
My thoughts exactly! Thanks for typing my comment for me.
So for the last several months everyone has been complaining about 15-25-35 Idea sets a group and yet again LEGO doesn't care! One time they make three sets, this time they make one. None of the rejected sets had a chance anyways. So everyone can shut up about the 'There are too many!!!!' it's lame and wrong.
Not sure what LEGO has against Futurama though, it be a much better line than The Simpsons.
Sad about the Krusty Krab. Here's to hoping that they are already working on reviving the IP.
I was worried this would happen when I saw they were re-releasing two older Ideas sets. Globe seems nice but will be a pass for me largely due to finances unless it's fantastic. Would have loved the Marry Poppins and the Capsule. Was REALLY looking forward to that one. Fishing Boat would have been fun too.
I’ve wanted a LEGO globe for the longest time! Yay!
Globe - Nope
Sonic - Nope
Guitar - Nope
Oddly scarce selection considering the 'record number of submissions'....
While it's nice to see LEGO exploring different types of products (Art, LEGO replicas of items, like a SNES, Piano, & Guitar), I'd be curious to understand the strategy behind all of this, especially the perceived level of interest compared with actual sales figures.
One would assume the plan is to get adult non-fans to buy an expensive one-off D2C LEGO set, and to their credit, there's certainly lots of Adult Non-Fans of LEGO sharing or talking about these products..... but I don't know of any non-fans who have actually bothered to pick any of these flashy 18+ sets up, it just seems to be the die-hard AFOL's who seem to be buying these new things (and murdering their personal finances in the process!).
Meh...just meh. Not sure I’ll pick up either. Globe could look nice on a shelf I guess.
They seem to only be focusing on submissions that will fit into their 18+ portfolio. Disappointing. Yet another reason for me to sell instructions to my creations rather than put them on Ideas.
In their defense, however, I think we have all seen enough weird collaborations with other brands for one year :)
According to my calculations this is about an 8 inch globe. The Ideas submission has 2060 parts, so $200 is a pretty good price estimate. Maybe $150, or even $100. An 8 inch globe on Amazon costs about $15-$20. So all the best to Disney Brick and everyone who really wanted this (and I'm sure there are many thousands of people who will be really happy to have it), but I'll keep my $200 for Lego representations of things that would cost more like $200 million in the real world, like rockets.
Maybe now people can slow down their submissions that don't have a snowball's chance of passing. Everyone is surprised that more didn't make it through, but do we really think that there were 26 viable projects here? Don't get me wrong, there are some fantastic mocs. But good mocs usually make terrible sets. People have lost sight of the fact that Ideas is meant for things that would be good sets but are outside of Lego's usual purview, but that have substantial community support. It's meant to be used as a way to show Lego "Hey, here's something you don't usually do, but we're interested enough that it would be viable as a set." It's been largely reduced to a moc showcase. Lego does a modular every year. Since they've started, they haven't missed a year. So submitting a modular is a waste. Lego does the Creator-scale cars every year. Submitting one is a waste. Then you've got things that just purely capitalize on momentary popularity. Untitled Goose Game? Cybertruck? Really? All the rest are just massive. With the amount of constant whinging that Lego is making too many good and big sets, it's tough to stomach complaints that a $200 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang won't be making it through, or a Waterfall of the same size, or a train station of the same size, or a....scale model of Rome? ........a Ruined House?
Can anyone really tell me that these are things that would make good sets?
Again, I'm not trying to diss the creators. Most of the builds are really cool! But they're things that belong on a table at a convention, or on Flickr. Not things that belong on shelves. I feel like Lego picked the two things that were worth a shot here
So out of 26 models they only actually chose one and have one still in review? That's a crying shame. The globe seems pretty uninteresting, and honestly given the backlash of last review's typewriter I can't understand why they picked it.
The Sonic set would be awesome if it actually makes it through! Not only have I wanted Sonic to return to LEGO for a while now, but him doing so may drive down the price of the old Dimensions set, which is one of the few I need to 100% the game.
Looking through the other submissions, there are a lot of nice looking buildings but not much I would personally buy. Only one I'm bummed about is Untitled Goose Game. Come on! Who doesn't want to play as that cheeky goose!
Yes, my wallet will rest easily.
Underwhelmed to say the least.
@fakespacesquid, I think you hit the nail on the head; there isn't a model up there that I don't think looks good. But that's all most of them are good for, models at conventions or on a persons personal Lego page. They just don't make good sets that Lego would want to produce. Ship in a Bottle, Globe, that marble game from a while ago, etc. Those are the types of sets that Ideas is really designed for, and those are what really benefit. Which is why sets based on obscure or niche books or shows or whatever won't get made. Them not being selected doesn't mean they don't look good. But that's all they're good for. Lego hasn't lost their way or is missing the point; but I think many other people are.
@fakespacesquid said:
"Maybe now people can slow down their submissions that don't have a snowball's chance of passing..."
Every word of this. Very, very well said.
And nice Watchmen refs.
The globe is a good choice, but only 1 selected and the sonic is considered. come oni mean I thought the night at the museum would make it. we need more lego ideas set!!!
If that globe is reduced to a small enough scale to be under £50, then I'm in. Anything over that, I'll just watch a speed build on YouTube to get a taste of the building techniques involved. Disappointed that my favourite's didn't get selected, but hey, at least I'm saving money.
Sonic is the most interesting from that entire batch, so I'm glad it is still in the running. I'll definitely get that one if it's produced.
The globe is right up my street, and as a guitarist with a Stratocaster I really hope they pull that off well. Not a gamer, so Sonic doesn't interest me personally, but it's an idea with potential.
When I saw that Stratocaster, I had the same reaction as Robin when he walks onto the Bat-cave in TLBM.
The Coraline house was my absolute favorite, but let's be honest the globe was an obvious choice.
The one problem with this program I feel is that they build the hype with the review results and then we have to wait a long time for many of the releases. We likely won't see these sets for a good year if they release them in order which I realize they don't always do.
Love the globe.
Not sure what else I would have picked from this batch but kind of surprised they only approved one. Interesting to see what they will pick from the next 35.
@benbuildslego said:
"I think the biggest surprise is that only one was chosen out of 26, when review periods of 10-12 have gotten two or three. I guess the other Music to Our Ears contest winner took up one of the spots. "
I agree! I was shocked that only 1 made it, and 1 for consideration especially when they had multiple from other periods with less. Sorry Ben on your Indiana Jones one. I thought it would have been fantastic!
The globe will make a good gift, I think. The guitars don't interest me, but I get it. Sonic can just piss right off.
Great, and the right choice IMO. Another original idea without IP.
I love the station but never thought it would realistically win.
So what does everyone think about the next submission? In looking at what just won (being an object) over Ideas with themes... to me it would be the Bonzai tree, as its the one item that stands out not having a product associated to it.
I absolutely love the Southwest 737 idea too, the lines are incredible and it looks way better than Creator Expert Boeing model from a few years back, but they may have a tough time with Boeing and or a single airlines getting credit...
Oh and please... not another TV show if we can help it...
Strange, I would have put money on Mary Poppins or Chitty Bang Bang for childhood nostalgia, and that is what tourists are looking for when they visit old London town Lego store, with little promotion or advertising needed. It's also more difficult for the niche ideas that are different for the normal sitcoms, buildings, sculptures etc to reach 10,000, so when they do they should be given a chance. Similarly, the first technic model and train station to reach 10,000 should have had a chance as TLG seem to be struggling for ideas in the technic and train themes.
No I thought the Krusty Krab would win! Wish they would make more spongebob sets! But the globe is pretty cool I may be picking that up eventually
Sooooo disappointed. Wanted Chitty so much. No interest in the globe.
Once again, LEGO decides to go with the boring dust collector style set and throw all the good ideas away. When will they learn that the only thing those kinds of sets are good for is just parts?
The Sonic set however...Come on LEGO. You gained this license with Dimensions. Don't let it go to waste. If they do it, it's totally going on my wish list!
@Squidkid_Belmont said:
"Once again, LEGO decides to go with the boring dust collector style set and throw all the good ideas away. When will they learn that the only thing those kinds of sets are good for is just parts?
The Sonic set however...Come on LEGO. You gained this license with Dimensions. Don't let it go to waste. If they do it, it's totally going on my wish list!"
I think Lego knows much better about what sets people want and will buy than you. And saying a set is only good for parts isn't really an insult, considering many people buy sets purely for the parts, and never to build.
No Bowling Alley and no Train Station, a huge dissapointment.:(
@kkoster79 said:
"So what does everyone think about the next submission? In looking at what just won (being an object) over Ideas with themes... to me it would be the Bonzai tree, as its the one item that stands out not having a product associated to it.
I absolutely love the Southwest 737 idea too, the lines are incredible and it looks way better than Creator Expert Boeing model from a few years back, but they may have a tough time with Boeing and or a single airlines getting credit...
Oh and please... not another TV show if we can help it..."
I agree with the Bonsai tree having a good chance of selection in the next announcement, with The Starry Night also looking to be a viable possibility. I’m finding it hard to imagine that more than 3 sets will be chosen after the rather underwhelming results from this wave, but then again, Lego Ideas is full of surprises, sometimes great, other times not so much.
@Squidkid_Belmont said:
"Once again, LEGO decides to go with the boring dust collector style set and throw all the good ideas away. When will they learn that the only thing those kinds of sets are good for is just parts?"
Things like the ship in a bottle, marble maze, pop-up book, piano, and globe are the type of things that Ideas was made for. Interesting builds that Lego wouldn't normally do. I would argue that a $200 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car (with no chrome, because Lego hasn't done chrome for years and they wouldn't start here) is the opposite of a good set idea. There were easily 24 good mocs in this submission wave and probably 3 good set ideas. And Ideas is for set ideas.
Also, I'm not sure where this concept came from that some Lego collects dust and some Lego doesn't. ALL Lego is a dust-collector. Unless you've found some magical way to reverse entropy
@PM0nty said:
"I'm surprised by the generally negative reception here in the comments. Looking at the other 24 in the review, none were really clear choices for Lego to go for, in my opinion. The globe is at least an interesting and unique build... not every Ideas set needs to be a sitcom minifigure pack or real-life spacecraft.
.... "
Completely agree. The other set I thought would be nice would have been the waterfall, but maybe it was too hard to do well. I'm a big fan of the ideas range but the one off, non licensed sets are particularly interesting to me as it's the only way we get that kind of thing. Large minifig scale buildings and spaceships may be nice, but they also show up elsewhere.
The strat is neat but I play ESP, not Fender. :P
@fakespacesquid said:
" @Squidkid_Belmont said:
"Once again, LEGO decides to go with the boring dust collector style set and throw all the good ideas away. When will they learn that the only thing those kinds of sets are good for is just parts?"
Things like the ship in a bottle, marble maze, pop-up book, piano, and globe are the type of things that Ideas was made for. Interesting builds that Lego wouldn't normally do. I would argue that a $200 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car (with no chrome, because Lego hasn't done chrome for years and they wouldn't start here) is the opposite of a good set idea. There were easily 24 good mocs in this submission wave and probably 3 good set ideas. And Ideas is for set ideas.
Also, I'm not sure where this concept came from that some Lego collects dust and some Lego doesn't. ALL Lego is a dust-collector. Unless you've found some magical way to reverse entropy"
Naw, science hasn't gotten THAT advanced. Dust collecting as in it just sits on a shelf and does nothing. Sets that are played with are less prone to have that happen to them, I've noticed.
Interesting, yes, I can agree with that. But I have always failed to see the point of a several hundred dollar set that you by just to set up for display. (Yes, I am looking at YOU Apollo Rocket!) If you spend a lot of money on something that doesn't really have any play functionality in its original design, what's the point? In my mind, if a set is meant to be played with, it's already on a good path to being a good set, and if it's something like a cool looking castle, that's even better. I'm all for innovative ideas, but in my opinion, that's not something LEGO needs to invest in. Leave it to the fans and their MOCs.
Globe - probably, needs a bit more colour, i’m sure this is one Ideas project that will be better than the original submission when its ready for release.
Sonic - Maybe, cautiously optimistic, but i’ll wait to see the final version first
Guitar - Maybe, but only because I get all the Ideas sets (apart from Adventure Time!!!) its not really chiming with me though.
I do think though that Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is a massive missed opportunity............
No Krusty Krab, no deal.
I've never been huge on Ideas, and this just proves why.
Judging by the other replies, that seems to be the prevailing attitude.
@Squidkid_Belmont said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @Squidkid_Belmont said:
"Once again, LEGO decides to go with the boring dust collector style set and throw all the good ideas away. When will they learn that the only thing those kinds of sets are good for is just parts?"
Things like the ship in a bottle, marble maze, pop-up book, piano, and globe are the type of things that Ideas was made for. Interesting builds that Lego wouldn't normally do. I would argue that a $200 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car (with no chrome, because Lego hasn't done chrome for years and they wouldn't start here) is the opposite of a good set idea. There were easily 24 good mocs in this submission wave and probably 3 good set ideas. And Ideas is for set ideas.
Also, I'm not sure where this concept came from that some Lego collects dust and some Lego doesn't. ALL Lego is a dust-collector. Unless you've found some magical way to reverse entropy"
Dust collecting as in it just sits on a shelf and does nothing. Sets that are played with are less prone to have that happen to them, I've noticed.
Interesting, yes, I can agree with that. But I have always failed to see the point of a several hundred dollar set that you by just to set up for display. (Yes, I am looking at YOU Apollo Rocket!) If you spend a lot of money on something that doesn't really have any play functionality in its original design, what's the point? In my mind, if a set is meant to be played with, it's already on a good path to being a good set, and if it's something like a cool looking castle, that's even better. I'm all for innovative ideas, but in my opinion, that's not something LEGO needs to invest in. Leave it to the fans."
Innovative ideas are the reason that Ideas exists. That's why we have the platform.
And there should be a healthy balance between play and display models. I don't think it's right to say that the Saturn rocket isn't playable, same goes for the pop-up book and marble maze, and the globe and piano to a small extent. And even then, not every single set needs to be 100% for play, especially considering the context. Almost all of what Lego does is for play. Having Ideas set aside for display concepts is totally logical and I don't really see a good reason against it. (And again, most of them can totally be played with)
I dont see people talking about the fact that they didn't even confirm Sonic is being made, just that they are still considering it. Also, I hope the designer of the Krusty Krab will put instructions online. It already looks like a finished set.
I'm so unbelievably disappointed that the Mary Poppins set didn't get approved.
(Did Lego not know that there's a Cherry Tree Lane coming to Epcot in Walt Disney World in the future?)
And it got beat by... A globe.
Yeah... Loads of playability and fun with that one Lego.
"Hey kids... Here's your cool fun new Lego set... A Globe."
They'd rather get socks.
@fakespacesquid said:
" @Squidkid_Belmont said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @Squidkid_Belmont said:
"Once again, LEGO decides to go with the boring dust collector style set and throw all the good ideas away. When will they learn that the only thing those kinds of sets are good for is just parts?"
Things like the ship in a bottle, marble maze, pop-up book, piano, and globe are the type of things that Ideas was made for. Interesting builds that Lego wouldn't normally do. I would argue that a $200 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car (with no chrome, because Lego hasn't done chrome for years and they wouldn't start here) is the opposite of a good set idea. There were easily 24 good mocs in this submission wave and probably 3 good set ideas. And Ideas is for set ideas.
Also, I'm not sure where this concept came from that some Lego collects dust and some Lego doesn't. ALL Lego is a dust-collector. Unless you've found some magical way to reverse entropy"
Dust collecting as in it just sits on a shelf and does nothing. Sets that are played with are less prone to have that happen to them, I've noticed.
Interesting, yes, I can agree with that. But I have always failed to see the point of a several hundred dollar set that you by just to set up for display. (Yes, I am looking at YOU Apollo Rocket!) If you spend a lot of money on something that doesn't really have any play functionality in its original design, what's the point? In my mind, if a set is meant to be played with, it's already on a good path to being a good set, and if it's something like a cool looking castle, that's even better. I'm all for innovative ideas, but in my opinion, that's not something LEGO needs to invest in. Leave it to the fans."
Innovative ideas are the reason that Ideas exists. That's why we have the platform.
And there should be a healthy balance between play and display models. I don't think it's right to say that the Saturn rocket isn't playable, same goes for the pop-up book and marble maze, and the globe and piano to a small extent. And even then, not every single set needs to be 100% for play, especially considering the context. Almost all of what Lego does is for play. Having Ideas set aside for display concepts is totally logical and I don't really see a good reason against it. (And again, most of them can totally be played with)"
I find it interesting that you keep bringing up the pop-up book and the marble maze. Those I found quite cool. Well, actually, I think the marble maze would have been better if they stuck with some of those original designs (like the customizability), but it was still a good go. The Apollo Saturn is not one I can see being played with to be honest. It's a bit too big, awkward, and fragile to have good swooshability. And although the ship in the bottle was cool-looking, I can't see that being used for any real play function either. (Unless you go and smash the bottle over someone's head, but I doubt that LEGO would want anyone to do that AT ALL.) Frankly, it's not just the fact that many ideas sets are meant only for display, but it's also the fact that most of them are of some of the most BORING things possible. I mean, come on! If you're going to show something off, can't it at least be something decent? Like the Hogwarts Castle? Or if must be realistic make it smaller and cheaper, like the Architecture line? I realize that some people have interests like that so they'd enjoy it, but for the majority market, it doesn't look like wise move. There are times when I wish LEGO would choose sets that aren't over the top, but still pack in good functionality and money worth, like the Fishing Hut. That set, in my mind, was a good motion.
@Squidkid_belmont, Not to be too rude, but I think you're rather ignorant. You have an opinion of what Lego is/should be, and anything that isn't that is wrong, bad, boring, etc. I don't think you have any real idea of what the "majority of the market" is. Or what the market itself is. You need to be more open minded. The Saturn V may be better as a display piece than to be played with, but it's also one of the best designed, well-liked, and overall best sets of the past decade. Lego is even re-releasing it. So clearly sets aren't just for play. You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am mine, but for your own sake, be more open-minded.
An absolute TRAVESTY. Lego blew this round of Ideas sets. First, and I really am not this brash, the two they picked are HORRIBLE. I mean they are creative. But I have zero interest in them. There were 4-5 others I would have scooped up immediately and bought multiple copies: Indiana Jones Trilogy, Bricks and Blooms, The Queen Train. I seriously thought Indiana Jones was in the bag. This is a crying SHAME. I've never been so disappointed at the Lego group.
@Mike_T_Bricker said:
"An absolute TRAVESTY. Lego blew this round of Ideas sets. First, and I really am not this brash, the two they picked are HORRIBLE. I mean they are creative. But I have zero interest in them. There were 4-5 others I would have scooped up immediately and bought multiple copies: Indiana Jones Trilogy, Bricks and Blooms, The Queen Train. I seriously thought Indiana Jones was in the bag. This is a crying SHAME. I've never been so disappointed at the Lego group. "
I didn't realize the ones they needed to pick are based on what YOU, specifically, were going to buy... -_-
@fakespacesquid said:
"Maybe now people can slow down their submissions that don't have a snowball's chance of passing. Everyone is surprised that more didn't make it through, but do we really think that there were 26 viable projects here? Don't get me wrong, there are some fantastic mocs. But good mocs usually make terrible sets. People have lost sight of the fact that Ideas is meant for things that would be good sets but are outside of Lego's usual purview, but that have substantial community support. It's meant to be used as a way to show Lego "Hey, here's something you don't usually do, but we're interested enough that it would be viable as a set." It's been largely reduced to a moc showcase. Lego does a modular every year. Since they've started, they haven't missed a year. So submitting a modular is a waste. Lego does the Creator-scale cars every year. Submitting one is a waste. Then you've got things that just purely capitalize on momentary popularity. Untitled Goose Game? Cybertruck? Really? All the rest are just massive. With the amount of constant whinging that Lego is making too many good and big sets, it's tough to stomach complaints that a $200 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang won't be making it through, or a Waterfall of the same size, or a train station of the same size, or a....scale model of Rome? ........a Ruined House?
Can anyone really tell me that these are things that would make good sets?
Again, I'm not trying to diss the creators. Most of the builds are really cool! But they're things that belong on a table at a convention, or on Flickr. Not things that belong on shelves. I feel like Lego picked the two things that were worth a shot here"
I think I have to begrudgingly agree with everything said by 'facespacesquid'. However I'm seriously abit down in the dumps that The Forestmen's Castle didn't make it.
@lynels - I would disagree. The globe could technically count as a space set ;-)
-For those who are comparing Lego sets to prices of their real life counterpart, no one looked at a Lego Death Star and thought "that's way cheaper than building a real one..."
-My kids are really hoping for Sonic. The movie was actually decent.
-With the guitars, I think Lego is hoping to cash in on Ed Sheeran being an AFOL...
I wonder how many of the IP-related ideas have left LEGO themselves in tears they couldn't make it into a real set. As implausible as it may seem to us LEGO fans I would guess some IP-owners are just not interested in a LEGO deal? ... I mean by now surely they must get that LEGO fans really, really, REALLY want The Iron Giant to happen, so I can only guess the IP owners are unwilling ... which is kind of sad for the creator of the "idea", the LEGO group and all of us fans.
Oh well, unless that globe has gotten a major upgrade in the redesign process, it's an easy pass for me. Which is a good thing considering the list of expensive LEGO sets I'm interested in is already extensive to say the least.
@Rusticjohn said:
"I think I have to begrudgingly agree with everything said by 'facespacesquid'. However I'm seriously abit down in the dumps that The Forestmen's Castle didn't make it. "
I'm honored :) And I can agree that the concept of a Barracuda-Bay-esque Castle set would have been interesting, but I don't think this iteration's execution was on point, and if Lego had changed it then people would have just increased the whining. With Barracuda Bay being the massive success that it is, I would not be surprised if we end up with similar (non-Ideas based) large sets based on past waves like Castle or classic Space or the like
@monkyby87 said:
" @Squidkid_belmont, Not to be too rude, but I think you're rather ignorant. You have an opinion of what Lego is/should be, and anything that isn't that is wrong, bad, boring, etc. I don't think you have any real idea of what the "majority of the market" is. Or what the market itself is. You need to be more open minded. The Saturn V may be better as a display piece than to be played with, but it's also one of the best designed, well-liked, and overall best sets of the past decade. Lego is even re-releasing it. So clearly sets aren't just for play. You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am mine, but for your own sake, be more open-minded."
I have been called stubborn a number of times. This is nothing new. Also, I've somehow managed to keep my child-like view of LEGO for several years, so naturally, the first thing I look for in a LEGO set is playability. And recently, it feels like LEGO has been drifting away from that, and everyone's like "This is great!" I'm not saying that absolutely EVERYONE thinks that way, that's just the vibe I've gotten. I'm also one who has been known to get extremely defensive about my own opinions, mostly because they get kicked around a lot anyway.
Also, that was a really bold statement, saying I know virtually nothing about the market. That's not true. Like I said, I look at LEGO sets from a kid's perspective, and thus, how well something from LEGO would do in the toy department of the market, and most sets that are meant purely for display don't tick the boxes in that area. And as for the Saturn, I don't get it. It's a rocket. Whee. I agree that all are entitled to their own views and opinions, so I by no means can ask you to accept my way of thinking, but I ask that in the very least you respect it. And I realize I've been a little salty this whole time too. I apologize to all who may have been offended. I'll try to show a little more tact next time.
But seriously, a globe? Really? I suppose it's a good teacher for how to build a large sphere, but still...
I apologize for going off-topic, since this thread is about this Ideas review, but when I was a kid I was a really big space buff, so from my perspective as a kid the Saturn V was/is really great. It's got loads of playability, because you can play the whole mission from liftoff to splashdown and even to display at Kennedy. It's just nanofig-scale playability instead of minifig-scale playability.
Back on topic, despite my comments above disparaging the globe, I do think it'll be a set that a lot of people will enjoy. It's just that "educational" isn't a marketing angle that I'd play up, since there are so many globes at lower prices that hold much more geographical information, often presented in a pedagogical style.
How does the price of a real-world item have any bearing on the value of a Lego version of it? And why can't a model just be displayed and not played with? Do what you want with it!
Happy about the earth globe but kind of bummed about no bowling alley... I doubted they would make it because it's a modular building though. I hope they turn over a new leaf and allow Lego Ideas modulars because they're pretty cool.
The globe doesn't interest me at all. And the Sonic set really doesn't either. But, I am all for it. I have hoped for years that themes, molds, and prints that were "one and done" for Dimensions would see more use, and in some cases, entire themes. And, most definitely, this Sonic set finally gets more use out of just that. It's also why I was hoping the Portal set would pass.
@Squidkid_Belmont said:
" @monkyby87 said:
" @Squidkid_belmont, Not to be too rude, but I think you're rather ignorant. You have an opinion of what Lego is/should be, and anything that isn't that is wrong, bad, boring, etc. I don't think you have any real idea of what the "majority of the market" is. Or what the market itself is. You need to be more open minded. The Saturn V may be better as a display piece than to be played with, but it's also one of the best designed, well-liked, and overall best sets of the past decade. Lego is even re-releasing it. So clearly sets aren't just for play. You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am mine, but for your own sake, be more open-minded."
I have been called stubborn a number of times. This is nothing new. Also, I've somehow managed to keep my child-like view of LEGO for several years, so naturally, the first thing I look for in a LEGO set is playability. And recently, it feels like LEGO has been drifting away from that, and everyone's like "This is great!" I'm not saying that absolutely EVERYONE thinks that way, that's just the vibe I've gotten. I'm also one who has been known to get extremely defensive about my own opinions, mostly because they get kicked around a lot anyway.
Also, that was a really bold statement, saying I know virtually nothing about the market. That's not true. Like I said, I look at LEGO sets from a kid's perspective, and thus, how well something from LEGO would do in the toy department of the market, and most sets that are meant purely for display don't tick the boxes in that area. And as for the Saturn, I don't get it. It's a rocket. Whee. I agree that all are entitled to their own views and opinions, so I by no means can ask you to accept my way of thinking, but I ask that in the very least you respect it. And I realize I've been a little salty this whole time too. I apologize to all who may have been offended. I'll try to show a little more tact next time.
But seriously, a globe? Really? I suppose it's a good teacher for how to build a large sphere, but still..."
I respect your opinion. But just saying "I look at Legos as play things for kids" shows you aren't fully in touch with the market. Because Lego goes far beyond that. Lego knows this, they know their market. They know it's more than just playability for kids. Which, again, is why the Saturn V has been the critically acclaimed success it has been. So clearly there's more to Lego than just playability. But, yes, you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how much I disagree with it or think it's too rigid ;)
Disappointed.
@monkyby87 said:
" @Squidkid_Belmont said:
" @monkyby87 said:
" @Squidkid_belmont , Not to be too rude, but I think you're rather ignorant. You have an opinion of what Lego is/should be, and anything that isn't that is wrong, bad, boring, etc. I don't think you have any real idea of what the "majority of the market" is. Or what the market itself is. You need to be more open minded. The Saturn V may be better as a display piece than to be played with, but it's also one of the best designed, well-liked, and overall best sets of the past decade. Lego is even re-releasing it. So clearly sets aren't just for play. You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am mine, but for your own sake, be more open-minded."
I have been called stubborn a number of times. This is nothing new. Also, I've somehow managed to keep my child-like view of LEGO for several years, so naturally, the first thing I look for in a LEGO set is playability. And recently, it feels like LEGO has been drifting away from that, and everyone's like "This is great!" I'm not saying that absolutely EVERYONE thinks that way, that's just the vibe I've gotten. I'm also one who has been known to get extremely defensive about my own opinions, mostly because they get kicked around a lot anyway.
Also, that was a really bold statement, saying I know virtually nothing about the market. That's not true. Like I said, I look at LEGO sets from a kid's perspective, and thus, how well something from LEGO would do in the toy department of the market, and most sets that are meant purely for display don't tick the boxes in that area. And as for the Saturn, I don't get it. It's a rocket. Whee. I agree that all are entitled to their own views and opinions, so I by no means can ask you to accept my way of thinking, but I ask that in the very least you respect it. And I realize I've been a little salty this whole time too. I apologize to all who may have been offended. I'll try to show a little more tact next time.
But seriously, a globe? Really? I suppose it's a good teacher for how to build a large sphere, but still..."
I respect your opinion. But just saying "I look at Legos as play things for kids" shows you aren't fully in touch with the market. Because Lego goes far beyond that. Lego knows this, they know their market. They know it's more than just playability for kids. Which, again, is why the Saturn V has been the critically acclaimed success it has been. So clearly there's more to Lego than just playability. But, yes, you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how much I disagree with it or think it's too rigid ;)"
I suppose I should have specified. I realize that LEGO goes for all ages, but it started out as a toy company, making children it's primary audience. I wasn't saying it's ONLY for children, I just said that they're usually aimed at children, but not all the time. (Hence SERIOUS PLAY being a thing.) But because they usually go to the kids first, that's what I look at too. And the first thing kids usually look for is "How can I play with this?" So I do too. Past that, I'll usually look at unusual parts or building techniques. Sorry, I suppose I didn't communicate clearly enough. I promise I'm not trying to start another debate. I'm just clarifying so that no one gets the wrong idea. Cool?
As for these Ideas sets themselves (to get back on topic) I'm holding out for that Sonic set. LEGO got way too many licenses for Dimensions, but then didn't use them for anything else after that. Now I don't know if it had to do with a limited-time contract or other alike things, but it seems like such a waste. I think they could have made some good lines with those. But like I said, I'm oblivious to any timed deals they may have made.
@sanderkoenen said:
"No forestmen? :("
This is sad!
I’m super hyped about the Stratocaster, because my electric guitar is a squire bullet strat. I would love to see them make different printed tiles to change it to a squire.
Well, at least the globe’s not licensed :/
Haha! YES!
NEW DEATH STAR!
I like the Globe! I think it’s a very interesting model! It was honestly the only one that interested me.
@Brick_387 said:
"Happy about the earth globe but kind of bummed about no bowling alley... I doubted they would make it because it's a modular building though. I hope they turn over a new leaf and allow Lego Ideas modulars because they're pretty cool."
It’s funny because it’s not like there isn’t precedent for it - Fishing Store is almost like a mini modular building.
@Do1633 said:
" Also, I hope the designer of the Krusty Krab will put instructions online. It already looks like a finished set. "
Agreed. Besides if it were to have become an actual set, LEGO would have removed most of its details and dumbed it down like most other large ideas builds.
@fakespacesquid said:
" @Rusticjohn said:
"I think I have to begrudgingly agree with everything said by 'facespacesquid'. However I'm seriously abit down in the dumps that The Forestmen's Castle didn't make it. "
I'm honored :) And I can agree that the concept of a Barracuda-Bay-esque Castle set would have been interesting, but I don't think this iteration's execution was on point, and if Lego had changed it then people would have just increased the whining. With Barracuda Bay being the massive success that it is, I would not be surprised if we end up with similar (non-Ideas based) large sets based on past waves like Castle or classic Space or the like"
Once again I agree with 'fakespacesquid' this time with cautious obtimism.... :)
I've never been more disappointed by LEGO... this is saying something with the recent Star Wars price per piece...
On that note, I do see why they chose what they did and have to agree with @fakespacesquid (nice user avatar, btw, I love Watchmen). I may pick up the globe... depends what else comes out around the same time. If they release the Sonic one I hope they do some heavy revamping to it
The globe does sound kind of interesting, but I’ve still got to get the piano. So, I’ll hold it off for a while.
Meanwhile, I was never a Sonic fan (although I did enjoy the recent film) and the Stratosphere doesn’t capture me either. Oh well, I think my wallet’s celebrating now!
So no Planet Express? I guess we can only hope they pull a Simpsons and do a unrelated non-ideas one...
@jrbookworm said:
"I've never been more disappointed by LEGO... this is saying something with the recent Star Wars price per piece...
On that note, I do see why they chose what they did and have to agree with @fakespacesquid (nice user avatar, btw, I love Watchmen). I may pick up the globe... depends what else comes out around the same time. If they release the Sonic one I hope they do some heavy revamping to it"
I feel like no one has noticed before but today I've gotten at least five people commenting on my profile, I'm truly honored. I did the mosaic so long ago that it's probably time to give it a refresh. Now that I say that, might as well reread the series....
As stated above: the least exciting round ever. I really hoped for the Working Waterfall, but the Globe was a very obvious choice.
Really wish some of you AFOL's weren't so negative. Lego doesn't approve sets for you as a small group... I do however wish a couple different potential sets had made it.
Only 1 set - so sad. I might as well not follow LEGO Ideas any more. Love the creations, but it is so disappointing to only see one. In fact, I do not think I've ever picked a winner. As far someone saying AFOLs are negative, think of all the work so many people are doing and only 1 wins. Its disheartening.
Usually I think that the comments on Brickset are overly pessimistic and judgemental, but in this case, the apprehension is spot on. These are incredibly bland sets to say the least. If I saw a MOC for the guitars and globe I would be impressed but light years of thinking they would make nice sets. The Sonic one feels more like a late September April Fool's joke than anything.
The people at Lego are clearly incredibly smart so it makes one wonder what is going on here. Probably too conspiratorial, but maybe the Ideas sets were getting too good relative to the in house designs and they had to tone them down a notch.
Well that’s a meh
@BrickTsar said:
"Only 1 set - so sad. I might as well not follow LEGO Ideas any more. Love the creations, but it is so disappointing to only see one. In fact, I do not think I've ever picked a winner. As far someone saying AFOLs are negative, think of all the work so many people are doing and only 1 wins. Its disheartening. "
It's not like these people are working on things for Ideas, though. They just make interesting mocs, and then for some reason put them onto Ideas. These are not being designed as set ideas, so it makes sense that they don't become sets.
Yeah, that first wave didn't seem too interesting overall, the castle is ok. The globe is nice, but it might be too big to display on my desk.
But that second wave- there are quite a few good ones. I just really need that bonsai tree to be selected. Heck, I'm half considering bricklinking the pieces if the instructions for it are available right now.
@maxxxphinn said:
" I just really need that bonsai tree to be selected. Heck, I'm half considering bricklinking the pieces if the instructions for it are available right now."
I need the bonsai tree too!
@fakespacesquid said:
"Maybe now people can slow down their submissions that don't have a snowball's chance of passing. Everyone is surprised that more didn't make it through, but do we really think that there were 26 viable projects here? Don't get me wrong, there are some fantastic mocs. But good mocs usually make terrible sets. People have lost sight of the fact that Ideas is meant for things that would be good sets but are outside of Lego's usual purview, but that have substantial community support. It's meant to be used as a way to show Lego "Hey, here's something you don't usually do, but we're interested enough that it would be viable as a set." It's been largely reduced to a moc showcase. Lego does a modular every year. Since they've started, they haven't missed a year. So submitting a modular is a waste. Lego does the Creator-scale cars every year. Submitting one is a waste. Then you've got things that just purely capitalize on momentary popularity. Untitled Goose Game? Cybertruck? Really? All the rest are just massive. With the amount of constant whinging that Lego is making too many good and big sets, it's tough to stomach complaints that a $200 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang won't be making it through, or a Waterfall of the same size, or a train station of the same size, or a....scale model of Rome? ........a Ruined House?
Can anyone really tell me that these are things that would make good sets?
Again, I'm not trying to diss the creators. Most of the builds are really cool! But they're things that belong on a table at a convention, or on Flickr. Not things that belong on shelves. I feel like Lego picked the two things that were worth a shot here"
Couldn't agree with you more with everything that you said and I'm sure that the LEGO group had the same/similar mindset when choosing which sets to proceed with.
If you had time, I'm curious, and would love to know your thoughts regarding which sets you think will be selected from the Second 2020 Review round (the round with the 35 projects). Cheers!
@fakespacesquid said:
"Can anyone really tell me that these are things that would make good sets?
Again, I'm not trying to diss the creators. Most of the builds are really cool! But they're things that belong on a table at a convention, or on Flickr. Not things that belong on shelves. I feel like Lego picked the two things that were worth a shot here"
Makes me want to analyze the reason why people submit to Lego Ideas. Do they think their ideas have a good chance to be made a set, do they just want the 10k club membership prestige, and are they happy with the consolation prize if their 10k ideas didn't get chosen?
I'm only waiting for the Naruto set... if it makes it... :(( The guitar set is quite nice. Would go well with the piano set.
@maxboston2 said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
"Maybe now people can slow down their submissions that don't have a snowball's chance of passing...."
Couldn't agree with you more with everything that you said and I'm sure that the LEGO group had the same/similar mindset when choosing which sets to proceed with.
If you had time, I'm curious, and would love to know your thoughts regarding which sets you think will be selected from the Second 2020 Review round (the round with the 35 projects). Cheers! "
I can't speak for @fakespacesquid but since I agree very much with their post I want to chime in and say the ones with the best chance in my opinion are Starry night, the Bonsai Tree, and maybe the Calendar. That doesn't mean they are my favourites, but they are the ones that best demonstrate the Ideas range. Some of the others are beautiful sets that look amazing and would be great both on display or to play with, but they are either derivative or rely on licensing - not new "Ideas".
But that's just my opinion - unlike some of the other posters above I don't expect the Lego product managers to scour the Brickset comments thread before making decisions :-)
@Brick_Master said:
" @maxboston2 said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
"Maybe now people can slow down their submissions that don't have a snowball's chance of passing...."
Couldn't agree with you more with everything that you said and I'm sure that the LEGO group had the same/similar mindset when choosing which sets to proceed with.
If you had time, I'm curious, and would love to know your thoughts regarding which sets you think will be selected from the Second 2020 Review round (the round with the 35 projects). Cheers! "
I can't speak for @fakespacesquid but since I agree very much with their post I want to chime in and say the ones with the best chance in my opinion are Starry night, the Bonsai Tree, and maybe the Calendar. That doesn't mean they are my favourites, but they are the ones that best demonstrate the Ideas range. Some of the others are beautiful sets that look amazing and would be great both on display or to play with, but they are either derivative or rely on licensing - not new "Ideas".
But that's just my opinion - unlike some of the other posters above I don't expect the Lego product managers to scour the Brickset comments thread before making decisions :-) "
Thanks for your insight, always curious to see what others will predict will get voted in :)
Like many others here, I thought the Spongebob Krusty Krab was a no brainer so wasn't sure why LEGO didn't go along with it (unless they have their own plans for a Spongebob line in which case I hope their version of the Krusty Krab is as good as the fan submitted version).
Which sets are your favourites from the 35 project round that you hope get approved? I'm personally hoping that the Avatar the Last Airbender Appa, Community and Naruto sets go through but there are so many in that round that I love!
No Castle, oh well, here's hoping the upcoming Blacksmith reveal might have some Guarded Inn inspired modifications to the original design.
Globe: I initially thought it had no chance, but that was before the wave of scale models like the NES and Grand Piano, so in retrospect I shouldn't be too surprised. It's very nicely designed and I'm sure it'll have an audience.
Sonic: One of the ones I actually thought would make it, hope it gets all the way. Sure, the games have been weak sauce lately, but there are more than enough fans of the classics to buy this set. Plus it's one of the few Ideas that's not oversized to hell.
All in all, there weren't many great options to choose from here. A lot of obscure brands and pet projects that wouldn't sell well at all. I'm glad they chose Sonic and the globe, they're two of the good ones and I hope they both make it. The other good ones that fell through must've been held up by licensing, right? Cause the Iron Giant was a shoo-in otherwise. I'm much more positive about the next review season, some real gems in that one.
@CharzBoi said:
"These are actually pretty cool! unless it's over $120, I'll probably buy the globe to turn it into a death star, it does suck though that the iron giant wasn't chosen, my mom would have LOVED it"
Build Better Bricks has downloadable instructions for a decent Iron Giant. We built it and love it, kudos to the designer of that.
Rome and KITT would have been really nice, but alas... Too bad Sonic will likely be depreciated, although I wasn't going to sell it anyway.
@TeriXeri said:
"No Castle, oh well, here's hoping the upcoming Blacksmith reveal might have some Guarded Inn inspired modifications to the original design."
Ahhhh yes! I had forgotten about the Blacksmith Ideas set, fingers crossed for some nice Classic Castle vibes.
I hope Seasons of Time, Doggos and the Bonsai Tree get picked out of the next batch.
Happy the Globe got selected and not fussed that others didn’t. Far too many ‘not actually original’ ideas these days sadly.
Of the musical choices I personally thought the Jazz Quartet was more appealing and VERY artistic. I’ll buy the guitars though just to maintain my completionist Ideas collection.
Looking forward to the GWP Ideas car coming soon too. That’s a beautifully made fan design.
Love the Globe and the Guitars!
I love the globe, I just really hope they get the actual land proportions correct and not use that awful Mercator projection.
@maxboston2 said:
"If you had time, I'm curious, and would love to know your thoughts regarding which sets you think will be selected from the Second 2020 Review round (the round with the 35 projects). Cheers! "
Someone *asking* for my input? That's got to be a first
I’ll be using the numbering from this post: https://brickset.com/article/53694/record-breaking-number-of-projects-qualify-for-review-at-lego-ideas
Too big: 3, 4, 8, 12, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20, 23, 25, 31, 32, 33
Lack of appeal/poor design: 15, 21, 27, 34
Played out/Lego does/has done this: 2, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 24, 26, 33, 35
After those exclusions, we’re left with the Windmill, Animal Crossing, Safe, Seasons Calendar, Gold Train, DogHeadz, Bonsai, and Naruto. The Windmill is a solid build but given the strength of the rest of the concepts, I think it’s more likely that Lego would hold that off until we get a full forest/castle theme. Animal Crossing is also a pretty good build, but it’s right with Fall Guys and Untitled Goose Game in the “capitalizing off of a video game’s momentary popularity” category. Plus, there’s not many iconic AC things that you can put into Lego, they’re not a conducive mix, so I would count this one out as well. The safe is an original concept, it’s got some functions as well as possibly display value, so I think this is one of the stronger options. Same goes for the seasons calendar. I think the calendar layout is a big bit, but it can easily be altered to fit well. The gold train is good, but I think it’s more likely that Lego would do their next train in-house, as they did with the previous one. The dogs aren’t terrible, but the breeds don’t really feel very distinguishable and if someone is getting this because they have a shiba, it’s unlikely that they’d want the other 5 so I wouldn’t put too much hope here. The Bonsai is an excellent concept and design, I think the current iteration is a bit too big for what it is, but I could definitely see something like the Birds getting through. Not one big bonsai, but 3/4 smaller builds that can be displayed side by side. Naruto stands out because it’s not another carbon copy tv show, but it’s still pretty much just a minifig pack. But given things like Monkie Kid and Ninjago, I don’t have high hopes for this one either.
To sum it up, my top picks are the calendar, bonsai, and safe in that order. I think they’ve all got excellent designs, and they perfectly encapsulate the purpose of Ideas: to bring unique, original ideas to the shelves.
The Globe does have the possibility of providing multiple builds that show how the continents have changed over time, something that your average store-bought Globe can not do. There is potential here for literally hundreds of variations, despite the relatively low fidelity that a LEGO build (of sane dimensions) enforces.
Although it would require a few alternate colour pieces - for example, before Antarctica was separate from Australia it was not such a huge area of white.
Personally, I'd start by filling in the Doggerlands and continue working backwards from there.
I bought nearly every ideas set when they first came out and up until about a year ago.
But I’m starting to get a bit bored with the ‘ideas’ that they are approving now.
@Do1633 said:
"I dont see people talking about the fact that they didn't even confirm Sonic is being made, just that they are still considering it. Also, I hope the designer of the Krusty Krab will put instructions online. It already looks like a finished set. "
Are people allowed to post instructions after their IDEAS submissions don't get built? I assume / feel like I have read "somewhere" that submissions become LEGO property once they're submitted to IDEAS. So it might be that a creator CAN'T post or sell instructions, because the instructions belong to LEGO after they're submitted to IDEAS. That would be kind of weird but a likely outcome of a transfer of ownership, if that's indeed what happens when IDEAS are submitted.
@ScaraMcDuck said:
"I wonder how many of the IP-related ideas have left LEGO themselves in tears they couldn't make it into a real set. As implausible as it may seem to us LEGO fans I would guess some IP-owners are just not interested in a LEGO deal? ... I mean by now surely they must get that LEGO fans really, really, REALLY want The Iron Giant to happen, so I can only guess the IP owners are unwilling ... which is kind of sad for the creator of the "idea", the LEGO group and all of us fans."
In addition to IP-owners not wanting to make a deal with LEGO - I think there's also "some" likelihood that pricing comes into play with decisions. If LEGO have to pay a percentage to BOTH an IP-owner AND an IDEAS creator, and their market research says "no" to a price that's high enough to accommodate both payments (on top of LEGO's margin) - then perhaps examples of this "double-IP fee" get struck from the list.
I disagree with @fakespacesquid about the desirability of making MOCs into IDEAS sets - but that's based on my own, personal LEGO-building goals, which aren't applicable to everyone. And I really believe that @fakespacesquid is correct in their description of what IDEAS is all about and the factors that go into whether IDEAS submissions are chosen. Probably the best summation / description I've seen (tho admittedly I haven't gone looking for such a description, even on the official IDEAS pages).
As for my personal opinions - I'm certainly not offended that these sets were chosen. They aren't really things I want to buy myself, but that's fine, there are plenty of other sets I want to buy (when my wallet will accommodate all of the spending!) I'm disappointed that some of the rejected IDEAS didn't make it, but that's just how it goes sometimes. It's always fun to see the creative ideas that make it to 10K votes.
Out of the sets that were under consideration I was really interested in 4 and 2 others were maybes. The two I liked the best one was a modular and the other I thought had a shot. The other two require Disney licensing & approval so I knew they didn't stand a chance. From my maybes the Globe got chosen. I don't know if I'll end up actually buying it in the end but it definitely fits what an Ideas set should be. Personally I wish they would just ban all IP from Ideas as they aren't true original Ideas but someones take on a Movie, TV Show, Video Game, etc. that already exists so not truly an Idea but rather a depiction.
hm the globe is a nice dustcatcher i guess I hope for a price below EUR 200. I would have gotten the cars or the Indiana Jones set.
Sonic is a meme for being in really bad shape after all these years. But given the success of the NES Mario TV set there could be a opporunity for 30+ year old nostalgia nerds. Again their choices were kinda meh.
Again corporate considerations and diffucult licensing made interesting ideas go the way of the dodo.
Having zero interest in anything but minifigure related stuff (mainly buildings) I'm quite happy there's nothing here I'll have to set aside cash for.
So happy about this result.
The globe is a must have set for me. It ticks all the right boxes.
A little sad that Chitty Chitty Bang Bang didn't make it, because that was such a cool looking car, but even if it had been approved, they would never have made it with chromed pieces, so maybe it's for the best they didn't approve it.
Didn't care for any of the others, so no hard feelings at all.
GOLD MINE
If the Sonic the Hedgehog one is being considered, then Portal and Up have a chance in the next set of Ideas.
@chrisaw said:
"Least exciting Ideas announcement ever?
Wish they’d just reveal Sesame Street already. We’ve all seen the figs..."
There's plenty of set pics leaks floating around the internet. It's kinda lackluster in my opinion
I'm fine with the chosen sets, and I'm sure they'll be popular enough. I'd love for them to give Sonic a shot.
as for the second results... I honestly don't know. Avatar would be awesome, the calendar and Community are safe bets, the UP house could make it easily with some tweaks...
...and 31 minutos will be a hell of an anecdote. [don't get me wrong, I love the show, but that ain't gonna happen]