I want a small car with steering and suspension and more ground clearance than 42101

I would like to see an Airbus Beluga XL, my spirit animal.

Mecha

I'm not interested in Technic, so nothing.
Thank you.

I want technicality. I want complicated mechanisms, lots of gears, steering, moving stuff, anitkythera mechanisms made from ABS.
I'm not really interested in another licensed racing car that hides all the interesting bits under panels covered in stickers.

I want a series of modules to build a growing ball contraption machine without Control+ or an alternative manual remote (if necessary).

The way they try to push the Control+ in that survey is surprising, I hope that's actually there to test the waters on how people would react to more Control+.
I hope this will finally lead to more Technic oriented sets, that feature complicated mechanisms that can actually be seen from the outside. We probably won't get the 3D-blueprint aesthetic back but seeing the mechanisms do their thing on the insides was the thing that mainly drove me to Technic.
I hope Technic will return to it's "teaching kids about engineering" roots.

@Huw said:
"I want something -- anything -- that isn't a vehicle!"

That's basically what I wrote too. :)

@Huw said:
"I want something -- anything -- that isn't a vehicle!"

metoo !! e.g. rubik solver

@Huw said:
"I want something -- anything -- that isn't a vehicle!"

Seems like the ideas popular, I wrote I would like to see a port or a mining site, where it’s a couple of buildings, a crane, maybe a crushing device for the mine. I also want Lego to bring back that damn V-22 Osprey, I was soooooo excited for that wonderful model.

Technic figures back and every set being in scale for them.

Please: a remote control with haptonomic feedback instead of a smartphone, and much more advance mechanisms that are in real cars.

What do you want from LEGO Technic?
a working clock... kinetic sculptures... recreate some of Leonardo Da Vinci Mechanisms!

basically I want Lego to surprise me like they did this year with their Botanical Collection.
I liked what they tried to do in 2019 with FORMA theme, it was interesting and new.
show me what can be done with technic pieces, because so far, it's very monotonous.

To me, LEGO Technic is the same as saying "vehicle engines".
Is that all this line has to offer?

I filled the form, then I went to this comment section and I see most of us want the same- less vehicles, no stupid IPs, no super expensive control+. Instead give us mechanics, show us the wonders of engineering recreated in technic pieces!

As a teenager I always wanted to build a Lego motorised multi-spinning fairground ride as they were very popular with Meccano at toy shows. But at school they never taught us the mechanics of how they work and the problems with momentum destroying gears and motors. There are some examples on rebrickable worth checking out, but tend to be 2000+ pieces whereas there must be a way that the clever people at Lego can simplify while still retaining the key functional mechanics and fun.

@Wrecknbuild said:
"Please: a remote control with haptonomic feedback instead of a smartphone, and much more advance mechanisms that are in real cars."

Agreed. I use Lego to help me get away from computers and smart devices (even though I probably spend more time designing digitally these days than I do building with IRL bricks...), but I'd like all the Powered Up control functions to be available without being stuck using an app.

Nevermind the fact that said app will most likely go out of date in a few years time. Lego doesn't exactly have the best track record with maintaining their old digital software...

I would like some more sets that integrate motors and pneumatics like on the Arocs and 8868 from way back when. Though I like the supercars I am not driven by a need to have more new IPs. A proper hydraulic system could be interesting and would love to see more non vehicle sets - something akin to gbc but not necessarily gbc

I wanted: no IPs, less Control+. I'd prefer Control+ to be an upgrade option for models, otherwise I'm going to end up with a bunch of controllers, motors etc. (The current cement mixer could have been a great option for that: decent sized model that works without motors, but great candidate for adding motor functions.)
I'd like some proper documentation for Control+, so I could actually use it for something other than the base model, the current programming system is rubbish.
And like many, more focus on mechanisms, rather than models.
My final comment in the survey was that I like Lego without the technology because it doesn't become obsolete.

I asked for Technic animals and steam engine (locomotive). I also wrote them that I hate to use smart phone when playing with LEGO so if they want to make Control+ more interesting they should introduce their own remote control with buttons instead of phone.

How about some fictional stuff, not just real-life models. There are some great vehicles and spaceships from Classic Space, Mars Mission etc. with lots of functionality that could be recreated in Technic.

Please, external gamepad support for Control+ (Switch Pro Controller, Sony DualShock 4 and DualSense, Xbox Controller...)

My keys points were;
- More non-vehicular plant, in the vain of 42055, perhaps an oil rig.
- More aircraft, more ships.
- More heritage/classic machinery & vehicles, such as a traction engine.
- IP brands are fun but they're not the be all and end all, functionality should always come first.
- Pretty agnostic about Control+/technology in general, its lack of futureproof-ness concerns me and I prefer motorised, complicated multifunction gearboxes to the direct drive solutions we see with C+. Some of the best sets, older and newer (8480, 8258, 42009, 42082) use this tried & tested approach of a motor + multifunction gearbox without relying on technology that will be obsolete in 10 years.

I said similar to the general tone here.

It's also a bit concerning how the questions seemed to take Control+ and licenses as a given going forwards, asking how to really do more with them. I get that Control+ is a significant investment, and licensing partnerships also take a lot of work to enact, but I hope that they are open to a retreat on both fronts if the survey is like this comments section.

On Control+, something optional would be welcomed, like how for a while a lot of sets were built to be power functions compatible, but were priced cheaper as those components were sold separately.

I would like some sets with pneumatic systems. Really liked that. Anyone knows why there are gone?

Started to fill the form, then came to check comments. agree with all of the above. less vehicles! If they must be vehicles, then more obscure, such as a combine harvester, snow groomer as we've had in the past.

Modular GBC or marble run type set would be awesome.

Solar powered windmill or some other renewable energy themed set?

I want a Nasa Rover / a giant Mega-Robot / a Ferrari (with the same result than 42115). And I don't want any Control+ feature !

Modes of remote control that don't involve smartphone apps that will inevitably stop working/stop being supported.

I participated and I told them, a big Lego combustion engine would be awesome! Turn a crank and see how it's working. Pistons, Valves, crankshaft, maybe with a lightbrick showing the explosion... Now that would be quite a set!!!

And I asked for a cool GBC, that would be nice!

Oh and I told them to dump control+ or at least add a real controller as well!

After seeing today's random set, I'm kinda wanting a Pizza Planet Truck from Technic. It might be in vain, but I can try!

What brands/ IPs do you want to see in Technic? None!

Anything that doesn't come with stickers.

I'd always assumed that the "+" element of the "Control+" branding would be optional smart phone control and a less involving but more futureproof version would be branded simply "Control". Such a system could come with a futureproof/backwards compatible solution like the PoweredUp Bluetooth train remote but this has yet to come to fruition.

The water is muddied further when the battery box seen the in 42113 has no Powered Up or Control/Control+ branding at all, simply defined as "motorised". Lego's attempts to harmonise their motorised architecture under the PoweredUp concept are being undermined by confusing branding in my opinion.

I'd like Lego to stop fussing about the IPs and focus on the mechanisms. Sets of unusual subjects would be the most fun - I'd love to see things like an orrery, or automata being produced.

I'd also like to see less reliance on Control+, or at the very least an option to use a physical remote control to drive all of the models functions instead of reliance on a smartphone and an app. I really worry that in five years time when the app goes obsolete, or smartphones just can't run it, the models will be reduced to static, boring, display pieces.

Maybe more Technic to Stud type parts to integrate into System builds/mechs.

Mechs with knees/geared systems at smaller scale, while not looking like Bionicle/Slizers.

I'd like to see any mechanical things, e.g. a clock, sewing machine.

So glad many of us have expressed our hatred towards Control+ and the wish for exploring more intricate and interesting mechanisms.

The gist of my feedback was:
Bring back proper Technic sets!
Get rid of all the overpriced licenced stuff.
Bring back proper controllers instead of an app. Introduce reliable, low cost 2.4Ghz control instead of Bluetooth.
And above all, lose all the wannabe Creator Expert like vehicles. Give us functionality, and speaking of which, functions you can watch and experience, not functions that are hidden behind panels and cladding.
In short, bring back real Technic sets instead of all the overpriced "stuff" we get at the moment. Other than the concrete mixer I haven't bought a Technic set in years.

A redo of classic technic lego sets :D

Anyone know what this means?

Never heard of it before.

"Do you see clear connection between our Build for Real communication and product offerings?"

I just want two things:
1. Some motorized tiltrotor vehicle (like 42113)
2. An actual Control+ remote control

An enigma machine or something along those lines. Cogs and stuff that is front and centre of the design.

I'd like to see a Technic line focusing on how mechanical things work - like a vehicle's transmission, a piston or even rotary engine, gearing for clocks, that sort of thing.

My employee gift 4002017 Nutcracker is one of my favorite sets. I'd like to see more outside the box builds like that. A cuckoo clock could lend itself very well.

As for structures, I love the idea of an oil rig that someone posted above. Oil wells would lend themselves well to Technic. There was that 2000451 Lego Education Panama Canal a couple years ago; something like that would be neat.

Let's all answer we want more military vehicles and see what happens...

Submarine! Give us a submarine!

Small sets with more than 3 gears

Asked for real space / Sci-Fi sets. How Cool would a Perseverance Technic Rover be.

As far as vehicles go, I asked for a (Bell, Augusta, Sikorski or no IP at all) helicopter BUT it MUST have cyclic and collective and the tail rotor must be operable. All this must be done with controls inside the cabin and the systems used must be closed to what they are in reality - that would be a seriously good set (IMHO). I also mentioned I wanted non-vehicle stuff like 8485, 8094 or 8858. Speaking of 8858, I'd like an engine set with moving pistons, double overhead cam shafts and potentially lots of trans-clear parts to see what is going on inside (WE know, but kids might find this quite interesting) (I suggested bringing back the fibre to simulate ignition). I also suggested a master set of GBC (provided they also release two other add-on modules per year). I also suggested (1) an assembly line (a bit like FisherTechnik) (this would work well with control+), (2) a set including all manner possible of making a robot walk (from simple to ridiculously complex) - only mechanical parts here - maybe with a motor - user can add intelligent brick if they choose to, (3) A printer, plotter, 3D printer or CAM machine. That's what I can remember and I also ranted ad nauseam about car being always the same thing (unless they want to offer positive caster and angled king pin on the steering wheel). I also ranted about the need for geolocation of their control+ app and the uselessness of their XL motor which offer not much more than the large motor.

@cucumber said:
"Anyone know what this means?

Never heard of it before.

"Do you see clear connection between our Build for Real communication and product offerings?""
I answered "No" to said question as I too had absolutely no clue what they meant by that.

1:

Cutting back on the amount of new licenses. I feel that LEGO's current business direction of countless licensing agreements and partnerships is somewhat of a problem. There are certain partnerships that seem like they have nothing to do with LEGO; such as Sony, Adidas, and Levi's; and secondly, I feel licensed vehicles hamper creativity. Many of these larger sets seem to be marketed as basically model kits to never be taken apart again.

2:

Various NASA spacecraft, such as the current Preserverance Rover.

3:

Basically anything, as long as there are more sets with decent features in the sub-$50 range.

4:

Large-scale stationary engine models; such as a steam engine, diesel engine, gasoline engine, or jet engines. since we have the Dodge, Chevy, and Ford licenses already, specific and iconic engines such as the Hemi V8, Smallblock Chevy, or even Ford 5.0 engines could be replicated.

And the big one for me, "Will Control+/Technology increase your likelihood to purchase a Technic set?

NO. "Control+ is dependent on software and a mobile application. Once support is discontinued, the very expensive new system will become useless. The older 9V and Power Functions systems need no software, and will last nearly indefinitely. Secondly, I don't want, and don't really need my phone to run a LEGO model. I prefer a physical controller. Sadly, as a LEGO fan of nearly all of my 24 years, due to the increased cost and the uncertainty behind how long I can use the system, I have taken more interest in RC cars. There are nice kits the same cost as the new 42124; but with full-upgradeability, four-wheel-drive, and a universal 2.4GHz controller"

9) Dropping smartphones entirely for 2.4GHz controller support. At the very least, allow us to use wireless game controllers, such as those for the Xbox and PlayStation series.

10: Hydraulics

On the 'build for real' topic, I mentioned that this was not very good. Many of their models 'achieve' the expected result in some way but when you look in how it is made in reality, there is a big difference. I told them I wanted 'Technic' to be as close as 'plastically' feasible to the real thing (they can produce gazillions of new parts for Friends - I'm sure they can do the same for Technic). Technic is about understanding mechanical concepts not some moveable parts hidden under panels and stickers.

Fewer (or no!) stickers, please.

BIONICLE

Is it too much to ask for just a bucket of Technic parts? maybe different sizes of buckets?

Toss the apps; give us the Bell-Boeing Osprey, other repurposed/demilitarised vehicles and a line of historical vehicles + the NASA crawler-transporter; NASA and Leonardo da Vinci for IPs; OLED lights & screens for new tech; insisted on built-in "cutaway" sections to display the inner workings without disassembly and always giving us non-millionaires the small-scale versions of every huge set.

I want that osprey back. Was gonna be my first technic since this sailboat 42074, and the Forma koi. It’s an impressive piece of aviation engineering, not a murder machine - And branding it as one designated for rescue tasks seemed like a perfectly valid way to put out a cool, engineeringly significant plane without war implications

It’s about a love for machines, not a love for the American war machine. SMDH

- Submarine
- Helicopter
- Space Shuttle

:-)

and the guys in Lego go "ok, we hear you. more stickers, more porsche, and ferrari, more single moving parts vehicles, more app controlled sets"

@plastish said:
"and the guys in Lego go "ok, we hear you. more stickers, more porsche, and ferrari, more single moving parts vehicles, more app controlled sets"
"

I get the sarcasm but in truth, sadly, that has a very high likelihood of being what will happen :-(

I hate technology, I can still power my 8860 from 1980 but can't use my RCX from 2010....
Bring cool machinery like a GBC or a clock, something you can have your desk and turn on/off.

I am not quite sure if people would like that (aesthetically not quite pleasing) but I wonder if they could do axles and gears in all sort of colours - that way, a complex transmission for multiple function could have gears and axles in a different colour to show that it belongs to a given function (a little bit like people do in MLCad to clearly show the mechanism involved. Let's say for the Arocs, the parts (gears and axles) for the tipper are in green, the parts for the outriggers are in yellow, the parts for rotating the crane are in red, etc. As I am mentioning this, I am not even quite clear myself if I'd like that (I'm vehemently against the blue Technic pins everywhere - I use to build with black pins and never had a problem - sometimes longer to find but patience, observation and perseverance are also good skills to transmit to the next generation). When I build a Technic set, I like to understand (as I am building it), what does what - this is quite hard with very large transmission ex: 42082. This approach would solve that problem but would certainly come at the cost of the general look especially that most people (me included - to a degree) want mechanisms to be visible.

I'd love something like the Space Shuttle Technic set (8480), one of my favorite Lego Technic Sets of all time. Those tiny red motors were so useful in MOCs

All I want is an official LEGO orrery.

Bring back the Technic super car - i.e no IP and make sure you can see all the internal workings and gearing. Would love an update of 8880 or 8860 - just make it much better than the 2017 40yr anniversary attempt.......

I would love to see a large snow groomer at the $250 to $300 price point modeled after a Prinoth Leitwolf or Pistenbully. Lots of complex function potential.

I don't give a rip about Control+ If it's anything like Disney+ I'll cancel it.

...and bring back the V-22 Osprey. I don't care who hates me for saying it. LEGO made a hasty and hypocritical choice by caving to a tiny mob. Silly. Redesign the over stressed gear and release it already.

I'd love to see revolutionary historical inventions. A printing press, a steam engine, threshing machine etc. Also we need a line of automatons.

Beams with studs on please

I would really like to have something back in the line of 8022 / 8032 / 8042. Sure am a bit biased as these hold a special place in my childhood memories, but gosh did I love to play with the pneumatics in 8042 and the creativity it inspired to combine it with the system bricks an build moving stuff in the play city, back then when technic actually had technic bricks ;).
You know something in the line of a technic "creator" 3 in 1, smaller good priced sets to animate children to work with different mechanical principles, just with a splash of the modern nowadays parts.

Sounds like my comments were in line with many others here...

I've got enough vehicles to last a lifetime - give us something else. Engines, gearboxes, clock mechanisms, robot arms etc.
Not really interested in licences / IPs.
NO I DON'T WANT CONTROL+, GIVE ME A DEDICATED LEGO CONTROL UNIT, OR BETTER STILL, NONE AT ALL. 42054 Claas Xerion was the best Technic set I've ever built, and that didn't need remote controls or smartphones.
Had to look up Build for Real - had never heard of it.

I wonder what will come of this survey?

I'm so glad you guys put in so many really imaginative ideas, because you're all suggesting things I've never even thought of (Harry Lime voice: "A cuckoo clock!") but would LOVE to build from Technic! I love the idea of a sewing machine in particular; when my partner was in his teens he actually copied the mechanism on his mum's machine!

What I did say in the survey is that I want medieval siege engines, both static and mobile. Sure, Lego don't do modern warfare, but this is historic, and subject matter they've already covered in System builds! They could hook into kids' education about physics by giving opportunities to experiment with trajectory, distance, ballast etc. (and perhaps I could use them to fling balled-up tissues at the TV when certain politicians appear - hey, a girl can dream).

The other thing I'd love to see is robotic arms. I kind of came at this from a disabled standpoint; there's a ton of cool mobility and accessibility tech which would be really fun to programme mini versions of (think of programming a robotic arm, where you have to think about things like the orientation of the wrist, fingers and thumb, or about grip strength and gestures), and one vehicle I've never seen done in Technic is a wheelchair: and specifically, what about one of those cool power chairs that allows the user to rise to a standing position? By all means, let it be a diversity tickbox, I'm all for those, but it's also just really cool tech I'd be interested to see envisaged in Technic form.

I'm just really frustrated by their whole focus on brands and branding - like, this "Build For Real" thing, I've never even heard of! I had to Google that! It's irrelevant to me when it comes to what makes me choose a Technic set. And Control+ is something I haven't even tried, because I am not among those who want to upgrade my phone every year, and Lego have been terrible for only supporting the latest tech. One of you mentioned upthread, very wisely, that this is antithetical to their brand values overall, because you lose the functionality of these models very quickly, whereas an old System brick can be played with and connected to new bricks forever.

It really feels like they have become totally disconnected from why people actually like Technic, and are chasing people who aren't necessarily Lego builders to begin with, but who really like specific car brands, and will build a model and have it sit on their shelf forever. But I suspect that a lot of those people can get a more realistic model kit from some other brand, and in chasing them, TLG are neglecting a very passionate existing market.

At least make the 2-channel remote control cars compatible with the 2-channel controller so the phone can be left out out of it. A proportional controller where you can select speed or positional control yourself rather than have the hub or motor choices dictate it for you. You can't 'invent' with it if the system only recognises pre-existing configurations.

As for models? A GBC. A fairground ride. A multi-legged walking robot or sci-fi vehicle. At least a tractor or working vehicle rather than another over-priced super-car.
And enough with the ridiculously complex gearboxes. Four speeds (including reverse) is more than enough.

I actually wouldn't mind more vehicles, but I want to see more functionality with them, like back in the days of 8448 . I also wouldn't necessarily mind more IPs, if they were for more unique items like a Caterpillar open bowl scraper or an Elgin Pelican street sweeper...something with more function than just steering and fake pistons. Less electrical dodads...battery free is how I prefer my Technic sets. Bring back the pneumatics and use less linear actuators with horribly slow gearing. I would love a nice, functioning wall clock.

Less licensed products and non-multicolor pins and axles please. I mean come on, if these are 16+ expert level sets people who are building these should be able to tell the difference in sizes. At least do even axles dark grey and odd axles black or something. Red, yollow, light grey axles here and there hurts the overall look. Same goes for the pins...

This was my answer to one of the questions. I know you can poke some holes in it, but it is how I feel: As a parent, I am not at all interested in any product that combines smart phones with LEGO. I want my children to have offline/offscreen activities and hobbies. As an AFOL, I despise a screen being any part of my personal LEGO experience (I already spend all day on a screen for work). And as a technologist, modern app obsolescence has no place in LEGO and I will not purchase any product that will no longer function in 3-5 years. This is essentially the same as telling me I cannot build with my LEGO from the 1980s because “we no longer support those pieces.” LEGO currently has a business strategy that they must somehow combine with technology to stay relevant and competitive when they fail to realize that their unique market position is that they have a product that does not require technology to stay relevant and competitive. (Please note that I do not feel this applies to your educational/programming products, like BOOST and Mindstorms, as LEGO is a great product to “teach” through.)

100% agree with you @Kerr !

LEGO is my escape from screens. I want LEGO to be physical, mechanical, offline, peaceful and quiet, to counterbalance my professional screen time.

And I want helical gears.

If we entertain the idea that the replies in this thread are representative of the overall survey replies (and don't mistake my meaning: I REALLY hope they are), and if TLG really paid attention to that, I wonder how long it would take for it to be apparent from the products. Don't they usually work about three years ahead of stuff going on the shelves?

It would be so wonderful if in three years' time we saw more imaginative and varied, less screen-dependent Technic sets in shops. Surely at some point they have to realise that they're better off doing first-rate Lego Technic, rather than second-rate... whatever it is they're trying to do now.