10303 Loop Coaster revealed!
Posted by CapnRex101,
LEGO has unveiled the much-anticipated successor to 10261 Roller Coaster!
Thrill seekers get ready for the new LEGO 10303 Loop Coaster
The LEGO Group has revealed the spectacular new LEGO Loop Coaster set. Not for the faint-hearted, the new set is a staggering 92cm tall - making it one of the tallest LEGO sets.
Inspired by some of the world’s most thrilling rides, the Loop Coaster is an immersive build filled with twists and turns. Exciting features will be uncovered along the build, including an innovative elevator tower for raising the car up to the top of the ride and two gravity defying loops. Builders can also power up the ride with motorized components, which are available separately, which will raise the elevator up automatically.
Guaranteed to generate a crowd, this playful set also contains eleven minifigures, including a ride operator, balloon seller, pretzel seller, hot-dog seller, a grandma, a young boy, and five roller coaster riders.
Commenting on the set, LEGO Designer Pierre Normandin says: “When we were designing this set, we wanted to recreate the feeling experienced when it just begins to tip over the highest point. Perfect for play or display, we are excited to add this set into the LEGO Fairground Collection."
The LEGO Loop Coaster set will be available from 1st July 2022 via LEGO Stores and www.lego.com/loop-coaster, at the recommended retail price of 399.99 EUR/ 599.99 AUD/ 344.99 GBP/ 399.99 USD/ 499.99 CAD
Further information:
- 3756 pieces
- Height - 92cm (36 in.)
- Width - 85cm (33.5 in.)
- Depth - 34cm (13.5 in.)
Additional images are available on the set details page.
How do you think 10303 Loop Coaster compares to its predecessor from 2018? Let us know in the comments.
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Looks great! That AUD $599 price will hurt but I think it was to be expected.
It seems massive in comparison to the previous coaster, which was huge in itself.
Fabulous but the price! Also why are fairground sets now put on a depressing black box….
If you can't disassemble it easily this is going to be a nightmare to store.
I know why it's the case but the ratio of massive, fairly bland tower to actual roller coaster track is not that appealing to me, especially at the price and not including the motors and battery to automate it.
That’s over 3 feet tall, that’s insane!
I have the earlier one still in box, bit annoyed not made yet, but space to leave assembled is at a premium, I do think the older one looks more classic and in proportion but expect this one will be much faster and fun.
I do think for price to power up should be included!
That looks absolutely amazing and a lot of fun. I've stopped collecting the Theme park sets (ran out of room), but for those who do, this looks insane with a great colour scheme.
Pennywise (apparently) lives at the amusement park now.
Why?
There is a red balloon all by itself placed under a support beam. IT can't be a coincidence.
"...and when you ride this coaster, you'll float too!"
;-P
400 Euro and still get stickers.
The size looks to be super impressive.
The price however is too darn tall
I don't know how to wrap this up
So overall:
I just think it might be a bit excessive
Can’t wait
How many New Rail parts you found? I found 3 small 1 at the lift, Quater Loop, and 45 degree turn with (how to say) lowering...)))
I would assume its motorized for this price. It does look very impressive.
Hahahaha WOW. Just WOW. It is getting truly ridiculous what they put together these days. I’m stunned and amazed.
Honestly the price is pretty fair, too. It’s not a small expense by any means, but this is not a small set by any means.
That's one big tower.
It’s beautiful! The set itself, not the box.
Where's the poll?
Amazing! If only I wasn't broke!
Mostly copying my comment from just2good's video:
The coaster fan in me balked at the unbanked U-turn right after the second loop before remembering that LEGO roller coaster trains lose momentum much quicker, but it does still seem a little painful even with the U-turn being slightly elevated (containing a new quarter helix). It's also hilarious how the thing is so tall the top of the elevator extends to the top side of the box.
400€ and powered up is not included!!! ???
I feel like the last small park of joy and excitement that lego popped in my heart is slowly fading.
They go to fast for me, I don't even have time to contemplate what they offer that they already come with something bigger, more expensive and less wanted.
This set is very cool, but it's 200€ cool, not 400€!
This looks much more of an 'extreme' ride than the previous set. I will have to see how well it works before considering it. Also, it's so tall, the top of it is cut out in the box art
What an amazing reveal, I am sure a lot of people will be happy.
What a huge roller coaster. Nice addition to the Theme Park sets. Looking forward to Brickset's review!
This looks more like a Gerstlauer eurofighter than a traditional looping coaster. I feel bad for the Ideas project.
Nice set and i'm sure it will do well, but it's a pass for me. In my opinion far too much of the set is invested in the tower at the expense of the rest of the set
Couple of questions:
(1) There are already chain and track parts on the elevator, why the rope?
(2) Are the loops new parts? (with left-to-right offset) or it's just the previous parts twisted a little bit?
Couple of observations:
(1) new part - straight track 4 or 5 studs long. Also potentially the left-to-right offset tracks - see above.
(2) Technic blue pins are a bane for Technic sets. Yellow axles are a bane for this set. The attachment points of the first loop are incredibly ugly (the whole thing could have easily all been made in dark blue with black or at least grey axles)
(3) The palm tree is fairly well done.
(4) The tower is incredibly piece-intensive, piece-excessive and piece-expensive. Looks good but was it really necessary?
(5) This set was originally supposed to be CAD$300 but they added a squirrel in it and now it is CAD$500.
Hopefully Costco Canada will carry this set at 20% off (they had the first one for a short time). Otherwise it will be difficult to find this on sale in Canada (maybe amazon.ca eventually...). I'm definitely interested (having the first one) but with taxes this comes at $575 - 20% off would be extremely welcome considering the motor is not included at that eye-watering price.
That chain link is gonna be fun to put together lol
Um, what is with the squirrel?
For me this is way too expensive. At this price the Powered Up-stuff must be included.
The roller coaster itself is pretty boring and short, compared to 10261 which is really great. This one looks boring and seems to be more a free-fall tower. I wonder how long it takes to move the train up and how many seconds the actual drive will take.
can't wait for the go pro video ^^
Certainly has wow factor!
Looks like the cars run on the side of two rails at the top of the drop! Interesting.
Looks like a nightmare to pick up and move :-)
I love it, but I don't "$400" love it. I got super lucky with the previous coaster, I'll have to watch for deals on this one.
I love this a lot, especially as I never got the 2018 version, but I'll have to pass on it for a while at least. There's just been so many options this year.
Waw impressive, but that price tag is even more impressive o_O
We're going to need a vid for the test of that set :)
Awesome!
Uh, why is it still branded as 18+? I thought they were doing away with that now?
What heights needed to generate the two-loop inertia. Fun tower mechanism even if I am curious to see its deceleration in person. Plus cool new track parts. Will be a must-add to our fairground!
I like it, but most likely will not be buying it. It's extremely expensive, and I have enough rollercoaster tracks already to make something nice. Wonder if the loopings are actually "illegal"? Or either the stresses remain below those allowable.
For those asking for a video or saying that need to see it in action before making up their mind, you can find one on the official set page. It is buried at the very end of the slideshow so here is the direct link (which will also let you watch it in full screen).
https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/set/assets/blt5832f603521d33eb/10303_v1.mp4
And yes, you can definitely see that tower shake / rock as the train is near the top. I imagine that is due to the person cranking on the tiny handle. Hopefully that situation would be remedied with the addition of the Powered Up motor.
It’s cool we get a Jim Jones minifig
Less pieces for a higher price, again. :(
I wonder if you could combine the two roller coasters sets together and make it one giant track. That being said, it's annoying to never get the track pieces in the same color. Each time we get a roller coaster set, these pieces are in a different color! :D
This set comes with a ton of these.. there are more track pieces used for the roof and the whole backside of the tower has a straight line of them, wow.
SQUIRREL!!!!!!!
Strange that none of the usual reviewers has a review of this out. Did Lego send review copies out to anyone?
That tower build looks more like a vertical drop ride.
@KIERAN2400 said:
"Fabulous but the price! Also why are fairground sets now put on a depressing black box…."
I think the black box is meant to signify that this set is for adults, which in turn is why it’s RRP is 50% more that it should be.
Can this be run in a continuous loop (if motorised)? Doesnt look like it, as the elevator has to go up and down automatically. There does seem to be a counterweight for the elevator on the opposite side, that runs on a separate track
That is impressive and would look great next to the other coaster. I love how the video shows a very clean room with no other LEGO sets in sight. I'm sure everyone's display area looks like that.
That is an awesome build. And I would think twice about riding it in real life!!
@haseeb said:
"Can this be run in a continuous loop (if motorised)? Doesnt look like it, as the elevator has to go up and down automatically. There does seem to be a counterweight for the elevator on the opposite side, that runs on a separate track "
I wondered the same thing - Power Up is programmable, so it could be built to go forwards and backwards (though I'd expect sensors to trigger that) - I only have the older Power Functions kit so it would work better for me if it were a continuous running motor.
Personally I'm most excited for the Bench sub-build!
I can almost hear the minifigs screaming.
It's a nice technical demo amd proof of concept but like the previous coaster, not really practical unless you specifically have a large dedicated Lego room with a permanent fair ground display.
@SuperMatt said:
"Strange that none of the usual reviewers has a review of this out. Did Lego send review copies out to anyone?"
The set was offered for review, but has not been dispatched yet. We will be publishing our review when it arrives.
@SINTAX said:
"For those asking for a video or saying that need to see it in action before making up their mind, you can find one on the official set page. It is buried at the very end of the slideshow so here is the direct link (which will also let you watch it in full screen).
https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/set/assets/blt5832f603521d33eb/10303_v1.mp4 "
I'd just want to add a caveat that only the quick clip within the first second of the video shows the coaster running at its true speed. The main focus of the video, the entire second half that shows the coaster running again, is in slow motion, so that's quite misleading about what it actually looks like when running.
This is a common problem with scale coaster models since you can't scale down gravity. They appear to go unrealistically fast through the track.
@Binnekamp said:
"The size looks to be super impressive.
The price however is too darn tall
I don't know how to wrap this up
So overall:
I just think it might be a bit excessive
"
There was once a @Binnekamp from Nantucket.
The Lego price made him say...
Seriously, awesome set, way too expensive. I feel like this will likely be my reaction to every set released from here on out.
I'll undoubtedly get it like the last one- just before it retires. Unless, there's a really good deal.
@HOBBES said:
"Couple of questions:
(1) There are already chain and track parts on the elevator, why the rope?
"
I'm guessing the chain is what powers the lift, but the rope is what connects the track to the counterweight on the other side of the tower. (Notice the back-side of the tower is covered in vertical track with a counterweight that runs up and down it)
I agree it looks amazing, and agree the price is horrendous!
At least it looks like a much-needed descending (right)-turn track piece, for the start of coasters. The original looked a bit silly needing those drive wheels around the top curve. This will, hopefully, allow for more switchback track designs without needing to find places to insert down-ramps every few curves.
They've used the fan-developed trick of two 90° curves back-to-back to make the arc into the vertical drop (I'll toot my own horn by pointing out I did this with monorail track to make a coaster back in 2009 https://www.flickr.com/photos/25627262
That's what I thought - probably 300 links????
I mean, sure it looks really nice. But the scale and playability, while impressive and a selling point, also equally deter me from ever wanting it. It looks like it would be fun for a while and then never touched again, meaning $400 can go elsewhere.
I do like the yellow track though.
There seems to be a lot of track pieces forming part of the build, that aren't part of the rollercoaster track of the main model. So I wonder if there's some interesting B models you can make with it?
I've been waiting for this announcement and cannot wait to actually build this! I'm currently building a city with a large amusement park.
I'm primarily a coaster enthusiast and secondarily an AFOL, so the Fairground Collection is undoubtedly my favorite. This is obviously not a perfect model of a coaster, but I'm very impressed by it. The elevator lift looks awesome and is actually used on some real coasters, although quite rare. The first loop has a surprisingly perfect teardrop shape. Second loop, not so much, but I'll gladly take it. The entire ride is definitely short, but overall it's quite visually stunning and I think that can make up for it.
My biggest gripe is how poorly LEGO coaster trains keep their momentum, which is why the first drop has to be unrealistically massive compared to the height of the loops, and partly why the ride is so short, but ultimately this strikes a great balance between realism and the simplicity of a *toy* model.
It's WAY outside of my price range, but super cool! I'm happy for people who have room in their budget for something this neat!
@CCC said:
" @behemothjosh said:
"That is impressive and would look great next to the other coaster. I love how the video shows a very clean room with no other LEGO sets in sight. I'm sure everyone's display area looks like that."
Adult LEGO sets are for single male hipsters not nerdy weirdos with tons of LEGO already!"
The problem is that Lego is addictive. All you need is that first (and in this case BIG) taste. Next thing you know, your house is covered with plastic toys and boxes, there's empty plastic part bags all over the floor, your finances are wreck, you don't want to go to work anymore, people say things like 'wow, you've got a LOT of Legos.' And, you correct them and say 'Lego.' Junkies Welcome!
Lego marketing is like showing beautiful models in designer duds smoking cigs!
@KIERAN2400 said:
"Fabulous but the price! Also why are fairground sets now put on a depressing black box…."
I too hate the black boxes LEGO has decided adults like. They even use them for Xmas sets! Yuk.
I loved the old, colourful ones we used to get. Black is not a play colour.
Ball joints are so freaking cool, lol.
Yes. YES! 1st day buy.
An interesting set, but with an unacceptable price...
It would have been really nice if it was the same colour scheme as the previous coaster so the two sets could be combined and remain aesthetically pleasing.
Bröther may I have some lööps
This set looks like a lot of fun, but I had a hard enough time finding a good display spot for 10273 Haunted House.
Glad the VIP points have been saved up!
@gylman said:
" @KIERAN2400 said:
"Fabulous but the price! Also why are fairground sets now put on a depressing black box…."
I too hate the black boxes LEGO has decided adults like. They even use them for Xmas sets! Yuk.
I loved the old, colourful ones we used to get. Black is not a play colour."
See, Lego is very poor. They need to save their money wherever they can. They recently announced new higher prices otherwise they just won't make it - it's that bad. Black boxes are another initiative to save money, no need for a designer to come up with a new background for every set (no designers, no backgrounds - lots of money saved). Might cost a bit more in ink but eventually, this will be changed to a sick pale grey like the instruction booklets.
In the past, to foster imagination, Lego was presenting all sort of alternative builds on the back of the box. Now, Lego pushes this concept a bit further. With no background at all, you can imagine whatever it is that you like - how about that for innovation?
Love it. Even the price isn't quite as bad as I was expecting. Just hoping that the lift is a bit smoother than in the Haunted House (judging by videos... not actually got around to building it yet!).
Another question:
Anyone knows why LOOP is spelled as LBP - because clearly the Lego parts exist to spell this properly and there is also all the space needed to do it. In fact it would take less pieces (2 macaroni tiles instead of 1x4 tile and two 1x1 tiles).
Some useless fact: I counted roughly 50 levels of 2x2 tiles made of 2 shades of light blue triangles (where the chain is). So roughly 100 pieces spent just there.
I'll be getting it. Wife had fun with the last one and it'll look good on our layout, but really, only 3 seconds of "coaster" play time. Rest of it is watching go up. I do agree that the power stuff should be included but you know Lego knows that people are going to do power so more money for them.
Plus almost everyone on here complains about price. Sheesh it's Lego and they've been expensive for forever :)
The price isn't great, but I don't think it's egregious either, considering the 10-cents-per-brick-golden-ratio and the large track pieces usually adding more to the price. Idk, seems about average to me.
Looks great! Very smart using more track pieces for the roof of the boarding area. Aside from looking great, it gives you more track to work with if you want to customize! :D
@HOBBES said:
"(4) The tower is incredibly piece-intensive, piece-excessive and piece-expensive. Looks good but was it really necessary? "
I imagine that the height is necessary in order to produce adequate momentum for the cars to run the length of the track
@MisterBones said:
"Um, what is with the squirrel?"
What are kids (and big kids) going to do with the squirrel? Put it on the track so it can get hit by the roller coaster of course. Don’t tell PETA or the RSPCA! :~P
Well they had use up all those Dark Blue pieces they churned out for TLM2 didn't they?
The potential for a disaster on this roller coaster is very high, what with vertical drop and two loops. If something does go wrong, you’ll be glad it has a black box.
Nice to see that video (thx @SINTAX ): I see we’ve got a deceleration flywheel damper.
One thing we don’t see is how the coaster train starts off from the elevator lift. I’m guessing there is a second hand-activated crank on back of elevator that could be separately controlled via remote if using the new power functions.
@sir_vasco said:
"The price isn't great, but I don't think it's egregious either, considering the 10-cents-per-brick-golden-ratio and the large track pieces usually adding more to the price. Idk, seems about average to me."
that 10cpp ratio is exactly how LEGO is fooling you into thinking you have a good deal...
@quixotequest said:
"Nice to see that video (thx @SINTAX ): I see we’ve got a deceleration flywheel damper.
One thing we don’t see is how the coaster train starts off from the elevator lift. I’m guessing there is a second hand-activated crank on back of elevator that could be separately controlled via remote if using the new power functions."
Simple gravity. The elevator is inclined toward the left. The 'nose' of the train is in contact with the left tower during the ascent. At the top, there is no more left column so the train moves forward and the ride begins.
@HOBBES said:
"Another question:
Anyone knows why LOOP is spelled as LBP - because clearly the Lego parts exist to spell this properly and there is also all the space needed to do it. In fact it would take less pieces (2 macaroni tiles instead of 1x4 tile and two 1x1 tiles)."
I think the odd B shape is meant to represent the double loop; in fact, it looks like the whole coaster was designed to look like its name (and/or vice versa): the L is the tower connecting to the loops and the exit track after the loops is more or less P-shaped...
I own every Fairground set except the previous giant roller coaster. It's one of my favorite subthemes.
I like this. I really like this. I don't $400 like this.
Truly looks like an epic set, gateway for GBC enthusiasts in the years to come?
This is the kind of set that would have my staring at it in the catalogue for hours.
Hmm, what do you mean my eyes look square?
I like the colours. You can easily use the new city space sets if you want to build out a theme around it.
Anyone else been looking at the fairground map?
I see this loop coaster, the haunted house 10273 and the ferris wheel 3119 .
Any guesses what that fourth attraction might be?
@KIERAN2400 said:
"Fabulous but the price! Also why are fairground sets now put on a depressing black box…."
On the contrary, the colorful boxes were depressing.
Is no one going to mention the Elvis in the room?
I can't wait to get this! I wouldn't personally ride a roller coaster like this, no way, but my minifigs are way more adventurous than I am. I can't wait to put them on this ride. But first I'll need to figure out how to fit this in my park. I'll have to get creative.
@Feroz said:
"Anyone else been looking at the fairground map?
I see this loop coaster, the haunted house 10273 and the ferris wheel 10247 (corr.). Any guesses what that fourth attraction might be?"
10257 Carousel?
@HOBBES said:
"Couple of questions:
(1) There are already chain and track parts on the elevator, why the rope?
"
The string is for a counter weight on the back of the tower going up and down the vertical roller coaster track :)
@CCC said:
"This is supposedly one of the new ICONS sets. Yet there seems to be no ICONS branding in the box. All that fanfare from LEGO about the change then they forgot to put the new logo on the box ...?"
On the website this is now listed as Icons but suspect the printing for the box and instructions was done before this decision. "Icons" branding will be phased in...much like paper bags and light-covered instruction manuals and punch tabs.
Isn't this the "euthanasia coaster"?
@YanVanLan
True, that seems like a highly probable explanation. Good catch and thanks.
@AllanSmith
Thank you as well. After spending the last hour examining all the available pictures, I eventually figured it out but thanks anyway to spend the time to answer.
(Apologies for corrupted message above; Flickr links are dodgy)
At least it looks like a much-needed descending (right)-turn track piece, for the start of coasters. The original looked a bit silly needing those drive wheels around the top curve. This will, hopefully, allow for more switchback track designs without needing to find places to insert down-ramps every few curves. It might also be possible to build a rotating helical lift to raise the cars, though that would be fairly wide.
They've used the fan-developed trick of two 90° curves back-to-back to make the arc into the vertical drop, and also two lower-half slopes held together with angled brackets to make the curve into the first teardrop loop. The top of the loop looks like a new piece rather than more back-to-back curves; a 90° upward curve with maybe a 2-stud offset to the right. Four more make up the second loop. The resultant sideways offset is presumably why they need that four-stud quarter straight.
It's neat that the quarter-straight doesn't have crossbars, so that pop-up barrier can be inserted in the track. Maybe it's also possible to put a powered traction wheel in the gap, for accelerating or braking cars on the level?
I notice there's a ramp extender between the two loops, and one other neat feature of the design: although there are no upper-halves of the long slope in the track itself, there are some in the roof of the queueing area, meaning the full set of coaster track parts are being put into production in this colour. That makes it very neat if we can purchase the parts individually at some point.
There's a cool but prohibitively expensive set for every week now huh
Nice, but, less pieces and more expensive than 10261
I don't know what to think
@Joefish said:
"Maybe it's also possible to put a powered traction wheel in the gap, for accelerating or braking cars on the level?"
Ooh, having recently been trying to come up with a simple and effective way to power the tram from the Monkie Kid set City of Lanterns, I like the way you think. Being able to accelerate cars from below the track could be a lot more compact than putting guide wheels on the outside perimeter. Of course, this new piece is only available in one color so far... hopefully like the older roller coaster track pieces, these new ones proliferate over time.
@YanVanLan said:
" @Feroz said:
"Anyone else been looking at the fairground map?
I see this loop coaster, the haunted house 10273 and the ferris wheel 10247 (corr.). Any guesses what that fourth attraction might be?"
10257 Carousel?"
The red part though?
I also took availability into account, which is why I think the smaller ferris wheel is depicted.
I find this bland. The tower albeit huge, is very basic and detracts from the set. The run time is about 2 seconds. Was expecting something more creative and lacks playability
@Jman007 said:
"That chain link is gonna be fun to put together lol"
And here I thought the Haunted House one was big...
Looks nice, but way overpriced and impossible to store or display for most.
No battery box and motor…in a 400 euro set, they are taking the xxxx now!
@Feroz said:
" @YanVanLan said:
" @Feroz said:
"Anyone else been looking at the fairground map?
I see this loop coaster, the haunted house 10273 and the ferris wheel 3119 . Any guesses what that fourth attraction might be?"
10257 Carousel?"
The red part though?
I also took availability into account, which is why I think the smaller ferris wheel is depicted."
Oh, you mean 31119 . Yes, you are probably right about that!
The color scheme is quite similar, but the little cloud on it gives it away... Kind of strange to mix 3in1 and Creator sets, but hey, probably due to availability.
Also: the red indeed! Not found on any carousel to date... Makes me think there might be a new carousel in development to be released next year, then! (a 3in1, this time, perhaps?)
@chris38911 said:
"There seems to be a lot of track pieces forming part of the build, that aren't part of the rollercoaster track of the main model. So I wonder if there's some interesting B models you can make with it?"
A launch tower for 92176 is the first thing I thought of.
It looks very impressive at first sight, but I do feel the ratio of tower versus actual track is quite a bit off. And looking at a video....it feels that way too, the actual ride is absurdly short. I think they easily could have done a bit more. And at this price not include the motor and battery box, that's just shameless.
So a bit mixed feelings about this, certainly looks mighty impressive but at a closer look the old set feels much more balanced.
Yes please!
All the comments goes in the same way, it’s really expensive! Only 3756 pieces for 500cad. On that, probably around 300 or more is for the lift chain. The modular assembly square( 10255) has 4002pieces and cost 340$.
@KaiserCoaster said:
" @SINTAX said:
"For those asking for a video or saying that need to see it in action before making up their mind, you can find one on the official set page. It is buried at the very end of the slideshow so here is the direct link (which will also let you watch it in full screen).
https://www.lego.com/cdn/cs/set/assets/blt5832f603521d33eb/10303_v1.mp4 "
I'd just want to add a caveat that only the quick clip within the first second of the video shows the coaster running at its true speed. The main focus of the video, the entire second half that shows the coaster running again, is in slow motion, so that's quite misleading about what it actually looks like when running.
This is a common problem with scale coaster models since you can't scale down gravity. They appear to go unrealistically fast through the track."
Bring it to the moon.
I’m all in.
@LethCobra said:
" @KIERAN2400 said:
"Fabulous but the price! Also why are fairground sets now put on a depressing black box…."
On the contrary, the colorful boxes were depressing.
"
Could that be because Peru (I've been there a couple of times) generally has a lot more colourful stuff? Here in the Netherlands there's a lot less colour, so the contrast of colourful LEGO boxes is rather welcome to me :-)
What is with that tower??? This is not a roller coaster.
@chris38911 said:
"There seems to be a lot of track pieces forming part of the build, that aren't part of the rollercoaster track of the main model. So I wonder if there's some interesting B models you can make with it?"
This would be awesome and possibly tilt me toward buying this set. Even if they were thrown in for the sake of MOCing that is very welcome.
WOW!!!!
And...
(sarc)
For a measly CAD$94.98 extra (one fifth the price of the set before taxes)(CAD$49.99 for the motor, CAD$44.99 for the battery box), you can motorize this with the fantabulous Power-Up system.
Of course, you need to use a very expensive motor with a positional sensor which will not be taken into account because the battery box is a 'dumb' component. You have to pay for 'dumb' nowadays, the previous battery box was roughly CAD$10. Switch was about CAD$8. So, we have CAD$26 value for a new shiny box of CAD$45 - yay!
But if you want to really do this properly, you could go for the CAD$169.98 option (roughly a third the value of the set)(CAD$49.99 for the motor and CAD$119.99 for the Technic hub) and program this to return to the bottom of the tower automatically (if you are not familiar with the system, plan on spending a couple of days to learn how to do this - including all the minute adjustments). IT-oriented people should have that running in no time - provided they have the expensive mobile/cell phone/tablet to run this software...
CAD$170 extra - it's peanuts - I suppose everybody will take that option. I even suspect people will start trashing their PowerFunction items in the face of such an interesting value proposition.
(/sarc)
I don't know, I feel like the elevator tower dwarfs the actual coaster (which has like 2 seconds of movement time)
Not a pretty looking set. But then I guess it’s aimed at function over form.
@CCC said:
" @darthnorman said:
"Less pieces for a higher price, again. :(
I wonder if you could combine the two roller coasters sets together and make it one giant track. That being said, it's annoying to never get the track pieces in the same color. Each time we get a roller coaster set, these pieces are in a different color! :D
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Possibly not as there is a lot of friction that slows the cart down. Unless you make the original start point high enough to increase the potential energy.
"
Actually, it wouldn't be too hard. Make this loop coaster end at the loading area for the old coaster and have the old coaster go into the loop coaster's loading area. With some extra track to make those connections, you could have a coaster run on both. It would go up the tower, down past the old waiting area, up the old incline, and then down to the loop loading area.
Just missed the Icons branding, it appears. Shame, as this is definitely what I would consider an "Icon"
Original is better, more pieces and cheaper.
@meccanotwitch said:
"I would assume its motorized for this price. It does look very impressive. "
It isn't. But still, at this point in your Lego life, do you not have spare motorized parts?
Wonder what the price will be in august...
The LBP is a genuine headscratcher.
They could've easily made it spell out LOOP with the two O's appearing to overlap. If not that, even just flipping the B backwards would've been better since it wouldn't be so obviously a B.
A poor decision on the designers part, that one.
Compared to the previous coaster it's significantly fewer pieces for a significantly increased price. That in itself is bad enough. But this comes out on 1st June, so will that price go up 20% in Aug/Sep as part of their "we care about our customers" profit-boosting?
Sets like this make me hate Lego.
Yeah its cool and big.
But WHY?
This set would be PAIN to clean, its way too big, and not even fun (4 sec ride wow)
@YanVanLan said:
"I think the odd B shape is meant to represent the double loop; in fact, it looks like the whole coaster was designed to look like its name (and/or vice versa): the L is the tower connecting to the loops and the exit track after the loops is more or less P-shaped..."
Reminds me of the PlayStation logo with the S being laid horizontally!
@IanCambridge said:
"Isn't this the "euthanasia coaster"?"
Kinda looks like an abridged version of one, yeah.
@Graysmith said:
"The LBP is a genuine headscratcher.
They could've easily made it spell out LOOP with the two O's appearing to overlap. If not that, even just flipping the B backwards would've been better since it wouldn't be so obviously a B.
A poor decision on the designers part, that one."
I don't know why, but flipping it would make me think it was a downwards loop, one that starts with a downwards incline, and seem more unnatural. Not sure it would've been much better. Far as I can tell the reason why people think it's a B is because the two O's are so small compared to the L and the P — but they have to be, otherwise they would look pill-shaped. I think there's no winning option here.
@BelgianBricker said:
"that 10cpp ratio is exactly how LEGO is fooling you into thinking you have a good deal...
"
How do you figure? I'm aware of said ratio and I've considered that acceptable since I got into Lego. Whether it works for you or not, there's no trickery to it.
@meccanotwitch said:
"I would assume its motorized for this price. It does look very impressive. "
Nope, the back of the box shows what you need to buy to make it motorized.
it is only Power Up "Ready"
That’s my birthday present sorted then. All I have to do is work out where to fit it in with the rest of the fairground / city.
Quite impressive.
Doesn't look like they've created new pieces for the loop, just twisted the existing track. That suggests that the loops are built "out of System". How long before they start breaking or falling apart?
I think I need a full build review and a regular maintenance report from fans who will own this for a while before I consider buying one. A set like this is almost like buying a car; I need to see about part engineering and reliability over time considering cost and size.
@IgelCampus said:
"For me this is way too expensive. At this price the Powered Up-stuff must be included.
The roller coaster itself is pretty boring and short, compared to 10261 which is really great. This one looks boring and seems to be more a free-fall tower. I wonder how long it takes to move the train up and how many seconds the actual drive will take."
Just watched Jang's thoughts video, the whole descent is about 4 seconds.
@Waksplat said:
" @IgelCampus said:
"... The roller coaster itself is pretty boring and short, compared to 10261 which is really great. This one looks boring and seems to be more a free-fall tower. I wonder how long it takes to move the train up and how many seconds the actual drive will take."
Just watched Jang's thoughts video, the whole descent is about 4 seconds. "
Which sounds about right to me...
Coincidentally, I visited two amusement parks last month and most rollercoaster ride experiences (and even many other types of rides) go something like this: standing in line for half an hour, being lifted to a certain height (lifthill or some other mechanism) in about two minutes and the rest of the ride takes about 30 seconds.
So if the elevator takes 15 seconds or less to get to the top, that would be a very realistic feature! ;-)
Also: The 10261 Rollercoaster isn't much slower; from top to bottom of the lift hill, the ride takes just over six seconds; Admittedly, the track may be a bit longer and this makes the run time about 50% longer, but the experience itself is still very short.
@DoonsterBuildsLego said:
"Quite impressive.
Doesn't look like they've created new pieces for the loop, just twisted the existing track. That suggests that the loops are built "out of System". How long before they start breaking or falling apart? "
You really think the designers would just twist the rails and put a ton of stress on pieces in an official LEGO set?
@HOBBES said:
"... (2) Are the loops new parts? (with left-to-right offset) or it's just the previous parts twisted a little bit? ..."
These are almost certainly new pieces!
Maybe not the bottom part of the first (higher) loop, that could be existing pieces attached sideways, but the top two are definitely new. An ascent/descent section at a 90° angle has never been created before. Also: about 12 seconds into the video you can see that the track has studs on the 'outside' (not anti-studs; also not seen before on tracks) so I'm guessing this 'quarter loop piece' has two different ends: one with studs, one with anti-studs!
I'm guessing the new piece has a slight twist build into it, so the ends are two studs offset from eachother. Giving the first loop an offset of 4 studs; putting the tracks very close to eachother as seen in the pictures, but the second loop seems offset a lot more (at least by six).
The second (smaller) loop appears to be made up almost entirely of these new pieces, so uses (as far as I can see) four and therfore would be offset by eight studs!
@Wrecknbuild said:
"I like it, but most likely will not be buying it. It's extremely expensive, and I have enough rollercoaster tracks already to make something nice. Wonder if the loopings are actually "illegal"? Or either the stresses remain below those allowable."
Yes. The 'construction technique validation squad' must have turned a blind eye on this one, because there is definitely some torque stress on the rails.
Usually I’ll wait in line an hour for a 30 second ride. Now I’ll have to build for 12 hours for a 2 second ride. I sure hope Six Flags doesn’t see this!
But very cool set, although that elevator is very strange. I would have preferred a traditional hill.
Someone above observed the advertisement doesn't show exactly how the cars begin at the top of the tower, conveniently. Another commenter suggested simple gravity gets the car moving. My question is how does the lift reset itself? Something akin to the haunted house ride? Will the power functions keep the cars on a continuous loop? it will be cool to see how designers did this.
Holy mackerel I love the 1950s retro theme it has about it.
Does anyone know it's length/width?
Edit: should read the article more carefully instead of getting over excited. So it's footprint is slightly smaller than 10261. I have an unopened 10261 that I've been trying to find space for but maybe I'll sell it and buy this because I think I like this better.
However, 10261 feels more amenable to do a custom track layout around the edge of my shelves that would take up so much real estate.
‘Tis a ‘ting o BEAUTY! Love it a lot.
Side note: this LEGO build probably best represents two people knockin’ boots, if you follow my meaning. A lot of effort and time for a very short period of intensity.
All the techniques for me to steal, its truly amazing!
@LethCobra said:
" @KIERAN2400 said:
"Fabulous but the price! Also why are fairground sets now put on a depressing black box…."
On the contrary, the colorful boxes were depressing.
"
Not really, It's because of my preference to black, almost everything i have is of this tone. BTW, Ignore that the place is colorful (here temporarily)... Don't enjoy to know places, prefer to be inside of an apartment (home) or hotel (travel); and only going outside when is necessary.
@sir_vasco said:
" @BelgianBricker said:
"that 10cpp ratio is exactly how LEGO is fooling you into thinking you have a good deal...
"
How do you figure? I'm aware of said ratio and I've considered that acceptable since I got into Lego. Whether it works for you or not, there's no trickery to it."
That's because you have been brainwashed and have not been paying attention anymore: never noticed how LEGO tends to break up commonly available parts into smaller ones to add the piece count (like how they use 2 1 x2 plates instead of a single 1x4 plate). Also, look at the latest revealed star wars set - does it look like 400 pieces? Where did they go? exactly, into the base, where they serve no purpose but to jack up the piece count and getting closer tot the 10cpp range...
I'll reserve final judgement for the reviews but on the face of it an easy pass when you already have the old coaster which seems much more in proportion to a real one.
There was a time when I would jump to buy every AFOL model LEGO put out there, but as time passes, I have more and more unbuilt sets in storage and LEGO is pushing 18+ too much for comfort. So I am finding it easier and easier to give 'exclusive' sets a pass.
This set looks great for a new collector of Fairground models though!
Is Huw okay? Usually this theme is his, shall I say, cup of tea.
This one looks spectacular, I wonder if it could be integrated into Ninjago City. I've always felt it needed a monorail/coaster-y thing.
It’s very cool, but if Lego isn’t careful, it will price itself out of most peoples’ reach with too many huge sets and continual price hikes. You’d think it at least have motors at that price
@Waksplat said:
" @IgelCampus said:
"For me this is way too expensive. At this price the Powered Up-stuff must be included.
The roller coaster itself is pretty boring and short, compared to 10261 which is really great. This one looks boring and seems to be more a free-fall tower. I wonder how long it takes to move the train up and how many seconds the actual drive will take."
Just watched Jang's thoughts video, the whole descent is about 4 seconds. "
$400 for 4 seconds or $100 per second. Probably the rate at which LEGO’s profits accrue. Seems fitting.
Amazing set with it's design, functions and certainly with it's price.
@Zander said:
"$400 for 4 seconds or $100 per second. Probably the rate at which LEGO’s profits accrue. Seems fitting.
"
You are surprisingly close. €1,79bn in profits per year equates to €57 per second.
I am not sure about the lift, as the cars will go around the track faster than the lift can get back to the bottom, so there will be a delay waiting for the lift each time. Assuming from the photos that the vertical eyepiece holding the cars will automatically fall once the lift reaches the bottom and the ride can continue 'hands free' for displaying at shows.
The lift also seems way too high, as the following shows double loops can be achieved with a continuous track and half the starting height.
https://ideas.lego.com/projects/0847c721-c370-4d4c-b58a-336a39c7e4e4
This would also hugely reduce the number of bricks and cost, and place the focus back on buying to obtain lots of track.
@CCC said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
" @CCC said:
" @behemothjosh said:
"That is impressive and would look great next to the other coaster. I love how the video shows a very clean room with no other LEGO sets in sight. I'm sure everyone's display area looks like that."
Adult LEGO sets are for single male hipsters not nerdy weirdos with tons of LEGO already!"
The problem is that Lego is addictive. All you need is that first (and in this case BIG) taste. Next thing you know, your house is covered with plastic toys and boxes, there's empty plastic part bags all over the floor, your finances are wreck, you don't want to go to work anymore, people say things like 'wow, you've got a LOT of Legos.' And, you correct them and say 'Lego.' Junkies Welcome!"
Yep, showing LEGO collector reality would be like showing pictures of the internal organs of smokers on cigarette packets. "
Perfect!
@ambr said:
"I am not sure about the lift, as the cars will go around the track faster than the lift can get back to the bottom, so there will be a delay waiting for the lift each time. Assuming from the photos that the vertical eyepiece holding the cars will automatically fall once the lift reaches the bottom and the ride can continue 'hands free' for displaying at shows.
The lift also seems way too high, as the following shows double loops can be achieved with a continuous track and half the starting height.
https://ideas.lego.com/projects/0847c721-c370-4d4c-b58a-336a39c7e4e4
This would also hugely reduce the number of bricks and cost, and place the focus back on buying to obtain lots of track."
That project seems significantly better than the Lego proposal. You would think that with all the resources and the possibility of creating new parts, Lego would do better than a fan moc.
@HOBBES said:
" @ambr said:
"I am not sure about the lift, as the cars will go around the track faster than the lift can get back to the bottom, so there will be a delay waiting for the lift each time. Assuming from the photos that the vertical eyepiece holding the cars will automatically fall once the lift reaches the bottom and the ride can continue 'hands free' for displaying at shows.
The lift also seems way too high, as the following shows double loops can be achieved with a continuous track and half the starting height.
https://ideas.lego.com/projects/0847c721-c370-4d4c-b58a-336a39c7e4e4
This would also hugely reduce the number of bricks and cost, and place the focus back on buying to obtain lots of track."
That project seems significantly better than the Lego proposal. You would think that with all the resources and the possibility of creating new parts, Lego would do better than a fan moc."
The project definitely shows that such a thing is possible, but how reliable it is (without needing fine-level adjustments and without the potential for stalling) is less clear. I expect Lego's version is probably overengineered to some degree in order to make sure it has speed well in excess of what it would need at minimum to clear the loops, to ensure that every copy of the set ran as intended and continued to do so reliably over time.
In addition, I expect that the long lift and vertical drop was chosen not necessarily because it would be required for the loops, but to add novelty to the second large roller coaster (with less overlap with Lego's previous expert-level set). IRL I know rollercoasters with a significant vertical drop can be a major draw for thrill seekers and it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for a park to have coasters of both varieties.
Finally, I doubt "reducing the number of bricks" would be a major priority for Lego whatsoever—the build experience is a big part of what Lego is selling so while a more minimalist "track pack" might appeal more to MOCists, for average buyers Lego would want to sell something that both looks polished (with a robust base, supports, and trusses) and provides an engaging, varied experience over the full course of the build.
This looks like a really cool set but GOD those tracks seem like a pain in the butt to build- I mean just making them psychically stay together seems like it would be difficult
maybe its just me but I have a hard time with certain sets putting them together bc either just sections of the set are hard to fit into place without breaking and stuff like that (this is a small one but when I did the sesame street set I had (and still do) such a hard time trying to make the leaves on the tree stay on- they just keep falling off
Everything looks so great about this set, but the price...
@joker306 said:
" @Wrecknbuild said:
"I like it, but most likely will not be buying it. It's extremely expensive, and I have enough rollercoaster tracks already to make something nice. Wonder if the loopings are actually "illegal"? Or either the stresses remain below those allowable."
Yes. The 'construction technique validation squad' must have turned a blind eye on this one, because there is definitely some torque stress on the rails."
Unless the quarter loop parts have a 2 stud directional offset, which is quite possible , by the looks of it.
Set looks great, just the space needed for this thing is going to be hard to find but holy moly would it be fun to put together!
As much as I love roller coasters and collect the Fairground theme, this will sadly be a pass.
The set is simply completely unbalanced.
- The ride is too large for a fairground. This is an amusement park type ride. They make the same error here as they did with the haunted house.
- The design is ridiculous. The lift is way too big compared to the rest of the coaster and even makes the coaster look unattractive. This doesn't even resemble anything in the real coaster world. Dive coasters simply don't look this way. And I know I don't need to expect correct physics here but those two small loops, one immediately behind the other and directly after the droop would be death by G-force.
- The size of these sets illustrates that Lego thinks everyone lives in a mansion with rooms and rooms to spare. Less is more is an expression apparently not known in Billund.
- The price. Every time and again : the price.