I kind of want this, but not the car.

Zero interest in the car or the GWP!

At first I thought it was a stand for the car on wich you could let it spin.

The most boring and uninteresting GWP in a long, long time

why theres a differential in there

Reminds me of the solar system model. It's great that they're finally trying something other than just vehicles, but, uh, I think they need to keep trying lol

Just missing the peddle

Nope: will wait for a sale. This doesn't entice me at all

Yeah, I'm wondering about the complicated mechanism too. I want to see the instructions for it.

@EFOLEGO said:
"why theres a differential in there"

Most likely the yellow circles at the base are turning opposite side of the logo.

Does it play Greensleeves as you turn it too?

P for Pointlesss?

It's not exactly making me want to dash out and buy the P1.

I actually kind of like it and think it's a neat idea, albeit maybe not executed as well as possible.

So looking at the back of this, there's a diff, and at least 2 gear trains. Why? Surely to rotate a logo you only need 2 gears..

On a different note I'm sorry to see that @Huw had to close the comments on the G500, I'd have had a couple of cents on that one.

So I guess I'll post them here. It looks quite good; but there doesn't seem to be anything technically new or interesting in it (besides the new 12T clutch gear). Certainly, if you already own the Landy, there doesn't seem to be any point in buying it other than completionism. Then again, that's been true for every technic car since roughly 2018 and there have been far too many identikit cars of late. I'll wait for reviews before deciding whether to get it or not though..

@Ridgeheart said:
"Dear Mr/Mrs McLaren,

I fear you grossly overestimate my interest in your product(s) and/or service(s), whatever they might be.

Aggressively indifferent,

Ridgeheart"

They make cars and compete in a various motorsport series including Formula One.

@WemWem said:
" @Dollhaus said:
"The little "TM" tile makes me giggle."

I really want to know if this was a legal stipulation by McLaren or if the LEGO designer thought it'd be a fun inclusion. Either way, it's so absurd I kinda love it."

It is. Source: I work with several brands and we can never forget ™ ® ©

@Olamisai said:
"almost makes me wish Brickset had an "i don't want this set" feature"

I think you can add that by customizing your "I want" / "I have" options. Someone reposted an article about it on here not too long ago.

Here is the post I'm referring to: https://brickset.com/article/110540/tutorial-enabling-additional-collection-management-features

In reference to this article, I most likely wasn't going to be able to buy this day one and this GWP has not shifted my feelings on that situation. I think it will be a neat item for those who are able to purchase within the window of opportunity but I don't see it moving others to jump on an early purchase.

3.14 TM

Something you would make out of a bin of random Lego bought second hand online.

Why are the supports behind the logo instead of below it? You will see that ugly backside a lot when spinning it.

Hey @AustinPowers here's your 'technic' set

@yellowcastle said:
"-Our first MWP (Meh with purchase) "

5008162 : "How quickly they forget."

I guess you just keep winding that red lever and eventually springs and other bits of engine parts come flying out? Much like a real ice McLaren car?

@yellowcastle said:
"I’m not sure which comment to post so I’ll list all options:

-Our first MWP (Meh with purchase)
-Free with orders between 12am and 2:45am
-Those who can afford this likely need help cranking their P
-Weird that LEGO has somehow already canceled @StyleCounselor ‘s order for this.
-Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit lonely
And you're never coming 'round

Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit tired
Of looking for the shade of my greys

Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit nervous
That the best of all the GWPs have gone by"

Bright Eyes here- I do have fantastic green eyes, but I dislike Technic = not Lego. Furthermore, I don't need a revolving sign to tell me when and how to use my bathroom. ;)

Edit: this sucks, but is still infinitely better than patches.

@mr_Fikou said:
" @Dollhaus said:
"The little "TM" tile makes me giggle."

I kind of want this just for that tile, hahaha"

I kind of want just a bag of the tile.

@Rare_White_Ape said:
"Does it play Greensleeves as you turn it too?"

Pop Goes the Weasel, in plinky little notes like something else that has a hand crank on the side.

@StyleCounselor said:
" @yellowcastle said:
"I’m not sure which comment to post so I’ll list all options:

-Our first MWP (Meh with purchase)
-Free with orders between 12am and 2:45am
-Those who can afford this likely need help cranking their P
-Weird that LEGO has somehow already canceled @StyleCounselor ‘s order for this.
-Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit lonely
And you're never coming 'round

Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit tired
Of looking for the shade of my greys

Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit nervous
That the best of all the GWPs have gone by"

Bright Eyes here- I do have fantastic green eyes, but I dislike Technic = not Lego. Furthermore, I don't need a revolving sign to tell me when and how to use my bathroom. ;)

Edit: this sucks, but is still infinitely better than patches. "

Update on the Bad Barad-Dûr/Helles-belles Fellbeast Situation:

Finally had the time to make the fourth call to lego CS about this and the D&D box that was drunkenly kicked around the warehouse and the BLDP set that was drunkenly sat on before being placed into immaculate packing boxes with tremendous amounts of cushioned support.

(How great must be the parties at the lego warehouse, and how do I get invited?!).

The rep promised to find out the great mysteries of life, the universe, and everything. However, thus far, she has only sent a follow-up email reiterating that she has the power to do almost nothing about it. Yet, I find hope in that this is the most anyone has yet accomplished, and it's something.

Also, she said something else about Jackie Robinson being "the answer." But, that can't be correct because everybody knows that's Allen Iverson.

I look forward to finding out more of these perplexing conundrums as much as you- no doubt- enjoy the updates.

Apologies without reservation, especially to DNA. RIP.

SC

I have to add something about my complaints about yesterdays announcement. I'd take a non-Technic Technic car any day over what the hell this is supposed to be lmao

Pass.

@EtudeTheBadger said:
" @Rare_White_Ape said:
"Does it play Greensleeves as you turn it too?"

No, it plays Phats and Small's "Turn Around"."

"Hey [LEGO]! What's wrong with you-hooo?"

@CollectorZ The point is, these custom options are meant for personal management only. He meant a gimmick that shows how many don't want a set next to people who own/want.

Personally I'd like to know how fast or even IF these Technic supercars sell out and if the idea of a FOMO-GWP like this is really necessary. A local supermarket had two of the 42115 sitting on the shelf of he customer service counter for 3 1/2 years until the store closed.

Is that a 2L axle in light bluish gray?

@darthnorman said:
"Is that a 2L axle in light bluish gray?"

You mean those connecting the logo to the frame? Looks like there's a bit of distance between those, so likely just a 3L axle.

What would be cool is if they had two of the larger Technic circles on top of each other each rotating at a 45 degree angle to the horizontal, plus the logo in the middle to keep sponsor happy!

Hard pass.

From what I can see of the the gear mechanism, the logo oscillates, not rotates, so I guess having the exposed supports on the back of the logo don't matter? Still willing to bet all the uncoordinated 800lb gorillas like me won't get it to waggle without falling over.

I do wish Lego gave you the option to opt out of gwps. Not that I want the McLaren anyway, but the amount of times I get stuck with something I have to put on eBay and wait for a year or more before it gets sold, because I can't wait around for them to stop doing a gwp as I need to get a set ordered by a certain time.

I had this last week I was waiting for the gwp to end so I could order some bricks and not get stuck with another unwanted gwp, but by the time it was over, they took the bestseller rating off so now I have to wait even longer for the order to arrive.

I could go elsewhere for the bricks, but I would be paying more and losing out on points.

@StyleCounselor said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
" @yellowcastle said:
"I’m not sure which comment to post so I’ll list all options:

-Our first MWP (Meh with purchase)
-Free with orders between 12am and 2:45am
-Those who can afford this likely need help cranking their P
-Weird that LEGO has somehow already canceled @StyleCounselor ‘s order for this.
-Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit lonely
And you're never coming 'round

Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit tired
Of looking for the shade of my greys

Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit nervous
That the best of all the GWPs have gone by"

Bright Eyes here- I do have fantastic green eyes, but I dislike Technic = not Lego. Furthermore, I don't need a revolving sign to tell me when and how to use my bathroom. ;)

Edit: this sucks, but is still infinitely better than patches. "

Update on the Bad Barad-Dûr/Helles-belles Fellbeast Situation:

Finally had the time to make the fourth call to lego CS about this and the D&D box that was drunkenly kicked around the warehouse and the BLDP set that was drunkenly sat on before being placed into immaculate packing boxes with tremendous amounts of cushioned support.

(How great must be the parties at the lego warehouse, and how do I get invited?!).

The rep promised to find out the great mysteries of life, the universe, and everything. However, thus far, she has only sent a follow-up email reiterating that she has the power to do almost nothing about it. Yet, I find hope in that this is the most anyone has yet accomplished, and it's something.

Also, she said something else about Jackie Robinson being "the answer." But, that can't be correct because everybody knows that's Allen Iverson.

I look forward to finding out more of these perplexing conundrums as much as you- no doubt- enjoy the updates.

Apologies without reservation, especially to DNA. RIP.

SC"

Life... Don't talk to @StyleCounselor about life.

@TheOtherMike said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
" @yellowcastle said:
"I’m not sure which comment to post so I’ll list all options:

-Our first MWP (Meh with purchase)
-Free with orders between 12am and 2:45am
-Those who can afford this likely need help cranking their P
-Weird that LEGO has somehow already canceled @StyleCounselor ‘s order for this.
-Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit lonely
And you're never coming 'round

Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit tired
Of looking for the shade of my greys

Turn around
Every now and then
I get a little bit nervous
That the best of all the GWPs have gone by"

Bright Eyes here- I do have fantastic green eyes, but I dislike Technic = not Lego. Furthermore, I don't need a revolving sign to tell me when and how to use my bathroom. ;)

Edit: this sucks, but is still infinitely better than patches. "

Update on the Bad Barad-Dûr/Helles-belles Fellbeast Situation:

Finally had the time to make the fourth call to lego CS about this and the D&D box that was drunkenly kicked around the warehouse and the BLDP set that was drunkenly sat on before being placed into immaculate packing boxes with tremendous amounts of cushioned support.

(How great must be the parties at the lego warehouse, and how do I get invited?!).

The rep promised to find out the great mysteries of life, the universe, and everything. However, thus far, she has only sent a follow-up email reiterating that she has the power to do almost nothing about it. Yet, I find hope in that this is the most anyone has yet accomplished, and it's something.

Also, she said something else about Jackie Robinson being "the answer." But, that can't be correct because everybody knows that's Allen Iverson.

I look forward to finding out more of these perplexing conundrums as much as you- no doubt- enjoy the updates.

Apologies without reservation, especially to DNA. RIP.

SC"

Life... Don't talk to @StyleCounselor about life."

Just endlessly stompin' 'round in a circle in the muddy swamp of Sqornshellous Zeta... out of spite!!!

@kyrodes said:
" @WemWem said:
" @Dollhaus said:
"The little "TM" tile makes me giggle."

I really want to know if this was a legal stipulation by McLaren or if the LEGO designer thought it'd be a fun inclusion. Either way, it's so absurd I kinda love it."

It is. Source: I work with several brands and we can never forget ™ ® ©"

In fact, if you as the owner of this set remove that TM the police will come and arrest you. Lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if monday morning a spinning Mercedes-Benz logo will be revealed! Hmm, it doesn't work with GWP's like that does it? Two released at the same time? What a shame, a spinning Benz logo would be so cool...

Now we make a nano Maclaren and put it on top to run the logo

@merman said:
"To be honest: this is a really lame GWP. i don’t even know what I am looking at. "

You're looking at a $500 dollar set that will be sold out in the first few minutes and then the smartest people on Earth (Lego investors) will make sure its value skyrockets to several thousand dollars in the near future. Did I miss anything ?

@TheOtherMike said:
" @StyleCounselor : You do know where your towel is, right?"

Brain the size of a planet, and he asks me about a towel? Next, he'll probably ask me to dial the number to lego CS? (sigh)

Always.

I use this corner to soak up my tears from Fell Beast sadness. :(

@daniellesa said:
"I do wish Lego gave you the option to opt out of gwps. Not that I want the McLaren anyway, but the amount of times I get stuck with something I have to put on eBay and wait for a year or more before it gets sold, because I can't wait around for them to stop doing a gwp as I need to get a set ordered by a certain time.

I had this last week I was waiting for the gwp to end so I could order some bricks and not get stuck with another unwanted gwp, but by the time it was over, they took the bestseller rating off so now I have to wait even longer for the order to arrive.

I could go elsewhere for the bricks, but I would be paying more and losing out on points."

Agreed. I hate being given free stuff that I don’t want and didn’t ask for and then have to dispose of.

But can it be motorized, I wonder...?

@Amik said:
" @merman said:
"To be honest: this is a really lame GWP. i don’t even know what I am looking at. "

You're looking at a $500 dollar set that will be sold out in the first few minutes and then the smartest people on Earth (Lego investors) will make sure its value skyrockets to several thousand dollars in the near future. Did I miss anything ?"

Sure? My Kopfkino imagines scalpers just selling these to other scalpers. If not, I can't imagine anything more satisfying than "investors" sitting on their precious merch forever! XD XD XD

I think if you motorized it, and had it sitting next to/behind your built Technic P1 set, it would look incredible.

That said, I'm glad Lego finally made a GWP that I could care less about...

@Mjvizcarra said:
"I think if you motorized it, and had it sitting next to/behind your built Technic P1 set, it would look incredible.

That said, I'm glad Lego finally made a GWP that I could care less about..."
So you like it? :o)

@daniellesa said:
"I do wish Lego gave you the option to opt out of gwps. Not that I want the McLaren anyway, but the amount of times I get stuck with something I have to put on eBay and wait for a year or more before it gets sold, because I can't wait around for them to stop doing a gwp as I need to get a set ordered by a certain time.

I had this last week I was waiting for the gwp to end so I could order some bricks and not get stuck with another unwanted gwp, but by the time it was over, they took the bestseller rating off so now I have to wait even longer for the order to arrive.

I could go elsewhere for the bricks, but I would be paying more and losing out on points."

I don't understand this problem. Is anyone forcing you to keep the gwp together as a set? Just break it down for parts.

@jkb said:
" @Amik said:
" @merman said:
"To be honest: this is a really lame GWP. i don’t even know what I am looking at. "

You're looking at a $500 dollar set that will be sold out in the first few minutes and then the smartest people on Earth (Lego investors) will make sure its value skyrockets to several thousand dollars in the near future. Did I miss anything ?"

Sure? My Kopfkino imagines scalpers just selling these to other scalpers. If not, I can't imagine anything more satisfying than "investors" sitting on their precious merch forever! XD XD XD"

I think it's already happening. Here on local fb marketplace they are trying to sell brickling stuff from February and there is almost no demand for asking prices. So we are getting there slowly. Lego must also increase their prices by further 30-50% and entire "investment" nonsense will start to collapse.

@Amik said:
"You're looking at a $500 dollar set that will be sold out in the first few minutes and then the smartest people on Earth (Lego investors) will make sure its value skyrockets to several thousand dollars in the near future. Did I miss anything ?"

What scalper would buy at RRP? Only idiots would....

Looking at the Daytona, Sian and Chiron on Brickwatch, it won't take long for prices to drop about 30%, and both the Daytona and Sian are still at that price (and have even been much cheaper!). The Chiron has been discontinued for almost 20 months now, but several shops are still offering it for just 13% above RRP (€420).....not exactly a high margin for a huge box they had to store for quite a number of years. And undoubtedly this will go up further in the next couple of years,

I don't like that scalping stuff at all, but for regular, non-limited sets I don't see the problem. And do you think Lego even cares? They only care about making money, a set sold is a set sold. And scalpers can actually be considered the perfect customer for them, since they won't open the box there's very little chance they'll ever need any kind of customer support. Customers who actually use the products, those are the nasty ones....

FWIW, I already see some (reputable) shops offering the P1 on pre-order at a 16% discount....
(and Amazon already has a 20% discount on the Mercedes G)

@Rabrickzel said:
"definitely day one boy! Theres actually exclusive obi wan minifig hidden there I saw it on leaks!!"

Let’s not be exclusionary. It could be a Day One girl too.

@WizardOfOss said:
" @Amik said:
"You're looking at a $500 dollar set that will be sold out in the first few minutes and then the smartest people on Earth (Lego investors) will make sure its value skyrockets to several thousand dollars in the near future. Did I miss anything ?"

What scalper would buy at RRP? Only idiots would....

Looking at the Daytona, Sian and Chiron on Brickwatch, it won't take long for prices to drop about 30%, and both the Daytona and Sian are still at that price (and have even been much cheaper!). The Chiron has been discontinued for almost 20 months now, but several shops are still offering it for just 13% above RRP (€420).....not exactly a high margin for a huge box they had to store for quite a number of years. And undoubtedly this will go up further in the next couple of years,

I don't like that scalping stuff at all, but for regular, non-limited sets I don't see the problem. And do you think Lego even cares? They only care about making money, a set sold is a set sold. And scalpers can actually be considered the perfect customer for them, since they won't open the box there's very little chance they'll ever need any kind of customer support. Customers who actually use the products, those are the nasty ones....

FWIW, I already see some (reputable) shops offering the P1 on pre-order at a 16% discount....
(and Amazon already has a 20% discount on the Mercedes G)"

We are slowly reaching a point where there's as many speculators as there are actual Lego customers who just want to buy and build. So this entire "investment" nonsense will go down the drain fast. And yes, Lego doesn't care and in fact why shouldn't they raise prices even more when they see people buying 20 year old crap for 5-10x the original price. I remember 15 years ago I would buy entire classic space themes for a fraction of what they ask for today. That's where we need to be again.

As others pointed out too, the logo doesn't fully rotate, but only oscillates like a desk fan, so I'm not sure why the flywheel rings where needed here, nor did it need a differential. I've rebuilt the set digitally based on the images alone. Part out value is 30€ new from BaP. Don't be dumb and give in to the scalpers.

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/199125-42172-mclaren-p1/&do=findComment&comment=3712859

@R0Sch said:
"As others pointed out too, the logo doesn't fully rotate, but only oscillates like a desk fan"

Didn't think this thing could get any stupider, but there's the proof.

@EtudeTheBadger said:
" @R0Sch said:
"As others pointed out too, the logo doesn't fully rotate, but only oscillates like a desk fan"

Didn't think this thing could get any stupider, but there's the proof."
You can’t expect something free to go fully around, can you? Funnily enough, oscillation is a more complex build.

@Amik said:
"I remember 15 years ago I would buy entire classic space themes for a fraction of what they ask for today. That's where we need to be again."

15 years ago, cash-strapped people were trying to unload their childhood collections to pay for other stuff. Now they’re trying to get all that stuff back. That’s where your price hike comes from.

@R0Sch said:
"As others pointed out too, the logo doesn't fully rotate, but only oscillates like a desk fan, so I'm not sure why the flywheel rings where needed here, nor did it need a differential. I've rebuilt the set digitally based on the images alone. Part out value is 30€ new from BaP. Don't be dumb and give in to the scalpers.

https://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?/forums/topic/199125-42172-mclaren-p1/&do=findComment&comment=3712859"

I somehow doubt the "TM: tile, assuming that it's not a sticker, will be on PaB. If it is, however, I expect a run on it.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Amik said:
"I remember 15 years ago I would buy entire classic space themes for a fraction of what they ask for today. That's where we need to be again."

15 years ago, cash-strapped people were trying to unload their childhood collections to pay for other stuff. Now they’re trying to get all that stuff back. That’s where your price hike comes from."

Or word spread that you can make stupidly huge money because there are people who are willing to pay ANY price for something desired.

@jkb said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Amik said:
"I remember 15 years ago I would buy entire classic space themes for a fraction of what they ask for today. That's where we need to be again."

15 years ago, cash-strapped people were trying to unload their childhood collections to pay for other stuff. Now they’re trying to get all that stuff back. That’s where your price hike comes from."

Or word spread that you can make stupidly huge money because there are people who are willing to pay ANY price for something desired."

I’d buy that.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Amik said:
"I remember 15 years ago I would buy entire classic space themes for a fraction of what they ask for today. That's where we need to be again."

15 years ago, cash-strapped people were trying to unload their childhood collections to pay for other stuff. Now they’re trying to get all that stuff back. That’s where your price hike comes from."

Just proves my point people today have too much money and they can easily afford current Lego prices AND more. Raising prices by further 100% will kill of scammers and speculators, it's that simple.

@Amik said:
"Raising prices by further 100% will kill of scammers and speculators, it's that simple. "

....and in the process a big chunk of their "normal" customers.....so why would they do that?

And with less sets being sold, those sets get increasingly rare, and will therefore likely only get even more expensive over the years. And thus only more interesting for scalpers.

@jkb said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Amik said:
"I remember 15 years ago I would buy entire classic space themes for a fraction of what they ask for today. That's where we need to be again."

15 years ago, cash-strapped people were trying to unload their childhood collections to pay for other stuff. Now they’re trying to get all that stuff back. That’s where your price hike comes from."

Or word spread that you can make stupidly huge money because there are people who are willing to pay ANY price for something desired."

You’re skipping the root cause. You can’t make any money scalping sets if there isn’t demand there in the first place. You also wouldn’t see people rushing to start scalping sets if it was clear that nobody was making any money at it because there wasn’t a market for the sets in the first place. First, there has to be end-consumer demand. Then there can be opportunism. If you skip the first step, you just get the Dutch tulip market crash all over again.

@PurpleDave said:
" @jkb said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Amik said:
"I remember 15 years ago I would buy entire classic space themes for a fraction of what they ask for today. That's where we need to be again."

15 years ago, cash-strapped people were trying to unload their childhood collections to pay for other stuff. Now they’re trying to get all that stuff back. That’s where your price hike comes from."

Or word spread that you can make stupidly huge money because there are people who are willing to pay ANY price for something desired."

You’re skipping the root cause. You can’t make any money scalping sets if there isn’t demand there in the first place. You also wouldn’t see people rushing to start scalping sets if it was clear that nobody was making any money at it because there wasn’t a market for the sets in the first place. First, there has to be end-consumer demand. Then there can be opportunism. If you skip the first step, you just get the Dutch tulip market crash all over again."

That's true. I should have pointed out that there are many scalpers or even regular sellers out there who either mis-estimate the demand or just don't understand what makes a set desirable or not. A simple proof is how prices on ebay, Amazon MP and the like for ANY set skyrocket AS SOON AS they are discontinued. This includes sets that weren't in high demand in first place.

@jkb said:
"A simple proof is how prices on ebay, Amazon MP and the like for ANY set skyrocket AS SOON AS they are discontinued. This includes sets that weren't in high demand in first place."
Just because they ask such prices doesn't mean people are actually paying it. I sometimes get the feeling this is just a tactic to get either get a quick big buck out of it when some idiot shows up, or just keep holding on to it longer until demand (and thus prices people are willing to pay) actually goes up.

I doubt many people are willing to pay much more for a set that has just been discontinued, as most already would have bought it while it was available. That's very different from a set that hasn't been available for years, and people now feel like they missed out on.

@WizardOfOss said:
" @jkb said:
"A simple proof is how prices on ebay, Amazon MP and the like for ANY set skyrocket AS SOON AS they are discontinued. This includes sets that weren't in high demand in first place."
Just because they ask such prices doesn't mean people are actually paying it. I sometimes get the feeling this is just a tactic to get either get a quick big buck out of it when some idiot shows up, or just keep holding on to it longer until demand (and thus prices people are willing to pay) actually goes up.

I doubt many people are willing to pay much more for a set that has just been discontinued, as most already would have bought it while it was available. That's very different from a set that hasn't been available for years, and people now feel like they missed out on."

You got my point.

@jkb said:
"That's true. I should have pointed out that there are many scalpers or even regular sellers out there who either mis-estimate the demand or just don't understand what makes a set desirable or not. A simple proof is how prices on ebay, Amazon MP and the like for ANY set skyrocket AS SOON AS they are discontinued. This includes sets that weren't in high demand in first place."

Funny thing is, sets that had low demand initially often do see prices spike, precisely because nobody bought them at retail. Look at Market Street now. It was trashed, and skipped, by many people who gushed over the Cafe Corner, but now it's worth a fortune. Why? Low supply, combined with exclusive parts, and an ever-growing desire from newcomers to complete the Modular series. Some skip it, but for those who choose not to, the pickings are slim, and it's a seller's market.

@PurpleDave said:
" @jkb said:
"That's true. I should have pointed out that there are many scalpers or even regular sellers out there who either mis-estimate the demand or just don't understand what makes a set desirable or not. A simple proof is how prices on ebay, Amazon MP and the like for ANY set skyrocket AS SOON AS they are discontinued. This includes sets that weren't in high demand in first place."

Funny thing is, sets that had low demand initially often do see prices spike, precisely because nobody bought them at retail. Look at Market Street now. It was trashed, and skipped, by many people who gushed over the Cafe Corner, but now it's worth a fortune. Why? Low supply, combined with exclusive parts, and an ever-growing desire from newcomers to complete the Modular series. Some skip it, but for those who choose not to, the pickings are slim, and it's a seller's market."

Rather an exception. I had stuff like low- and middle-priced City sets or Vidiyo and the like in mind.

@jkb:
Have you looked up the prices of S2 Vidiyo minifigs lately? A guy in my LUG was trying to collect every dragon, and 43108-4 costs more than he was willing to spend on a minifig.

@PurpleDave said:
" @jkb:
Have you looked up the prices of S2 Vidiyo minifigs lately? A guy in my LUG was trying to collect every dragon, and 43108-4 costs more than he was willing to spend on a minifig.]

Series 2 is different as it had a very limited shelf presence."