I can't justify buying this with what I've spent recently and plan to spend on new sets in the next month or so. I'll have to get some of the newer parts and colours from Bricks and Pieces when they become available.

Well I absolutely love the design, its a great center piece for anyone who likes the Botanical sets like myself... Though may have to have my Groot brick builts staging a plant rescue on it. It feels kinda small for a £290 set though. A huge part of the piece count is made up of the small flower and leaf pieces afterall so we can't just it by price per piece or the parts count for terms of value for money.

It's so nice! But also €330... It's going on the wishlist, perhaps there will be a good deal... someday ^_^'

I like it, but I'm not sure how it will fit in my Australian-inspired LEGO City. Most of our botanic gardens are fully outdoors and much larger (the ones in Sydney and Canberra are great examples), so I'm not sure how this would work. I'd probably just MOC my own version, although this would certainly work as a conservatory. That said though, I'll need to find a reasonable amount of space. It's also just a little too expensive for my liking. I'll have to think about it.

Also, is it just me or does the third minifigure from the right look like Joe Biden?

I would love to buy this within the first week of purchase, but whether it's financially possible I don't know, what with bricklink being shipped and just getting back from a long weekend in Windsor and London over half term.

Might have to spend some of VIP points ...

Speaking of, early access for Insiders 1/11-3/11.

So what's the set launching in the live event? The Endurance, maybe?

@DaLegoNerd1 said:
" @merman said:
" @DaLegoNerd1 said:
"It's perfect and not overpriced well done Lego. The clear plastic doesn't even look cloudy!"

You know you are looking at renders?

"

Yeah, but they aren't all renders. Do they look cloudy in the lifestyle images and video to you?"

Guess you are right. On that pic there is also a 1x2 tan plate that shows a sprue mark

It even has a George Lucas minifig for those Star Wars fans out there.

This is beautiful! Definitely worth saving a few paychecks for!

Between this and the X-Men Mansion is about $700 with taxes and it is not even black friday, plus we have new modular drop and the gwp. This is going to kill my wallet :(

Is this the biggest deviation from the original submission we've had so far?

@Somnium said:
"Poison Ivy's lair"

Came here hoping someone else would think this is the perfect setting for a standoff between Batman and Poison Ivy. :)

@Samsonite_Bricks said:
" @GamerJoe895 said:
"CAD exchange rate makes me want to cry ?? $330 USD vs $430 CAD is insane "

Technically we are paying less then Americans tho

Also the press release says most minifigs in a ideas set, not true The office set had 15"

And 21337 Table Football had 22.

@classicstylecastle said:
" @aes1982 said:
"I have no plans to buy this set, but I do like it very much. The staircase design using the fence pieces is particularly nice!"

They did this back in the 10260 Downtown diner, and remember thinking it was a very clever technique, despite the fact that you can't pose any figs on it etc."

Thanks for your comment! I did not know that the same technique was also used in the Downtown Diner set. I only got back into LEGO in 2019 and never really took a more careful look at the sets released in earlier years.

It will also be a nice bonus if, as rumoured, the Reading, Reading, Reading GWP overlaps (and doesn't sell out)!

@sjr60 said:
"It will also be a nice bonus if, as rumoured, the Reading, Reading, Reading GWP overlaps (and doesn't sell out)!"

I just realized that this and 76294 go on sale at the same time, for the same price, and both have exclusive GWPs. Hmmmm...

Glad I don't have to spend $700, but it's still gonna hurt!

I think modular building fans will jump on this one quick.

Looks like a nightmare to move , as it doesn't seem to split down the middle to seperate the baseplates.

But since the building seems elevated (also often done to avoid massive plates on top of baseplates directly as LEGO does not like to connect too many studs, as seen with City cars having gaps with tiles in the frame), maybe it can come off completely.

@StyleCounselor said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It will also be a nice bonus if, as rumoured, the Reading, Reading, Reading GWP overlaps (and doesn't sell out)!"

I just realized that this and 76294 go on sale at the same time, for the same price, and both have exclusive GWPs. Hmmmm..."
Fortunately my vastly overpriced home insurance is due the same day, which makes Lego prices pretty trivial by comparison!

@JavaBrix said:
"
Looks like I'm selling 41757 and picking this up."

That is what I am thinking as well.

@StyleCounselor said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It will also be a nice bonus if, as rumoured, the Reading, Reading, Reading GWP overlaps (and doesn't sell out)!"

I just realized that this and 76294 go on sale at the same time, for the same price, and both have exclusive GWPs. Hmmmm..."

The timing isn't good. I know it's coming up to Christmas, but to be releasing so many large sets with limited GWPs isn't great.

@sjr60 said:
"I thought the Friends version would have killed any chance for this one. SO glad it didn't. This is magnificent. My Mum used to love Kew Gardens and the proportions of this are more like Kew's Palm House than the original submission. All that is missing from the minifigs is an elderly lady in a wheelchair to push around! Best set of the year. Day 1 purchase, and worth every penny. "

Yes, it is a better version than the original submission (which is rare for Lego Ideas) and bases it much more on reality as it now does bear a resemblance to Kew Gardens.

@GamerJoe895 said:
"CAD exchange rate makes me want to cry ?? $330 USD vs $430 CAD is insane "

With CAD current exchange rate, Canadians actually pay the least for most sets; right now 330 USD = 456 CAD . If you go to a set page (i.e. 75374) and click on "Prices" tab you should see the CAD equivalents.

It looks neat. They did a good job with it. I am surprised it is so similar to the Friends version in such a short amount of time. Maybe all botanical gardens are white with sand green windows?

I think ultimately if I was going to pick any up, I'd buy a few of the Friends one and build something bigger. But since money is finite, I will have to skip the theme altogether.

love it, but not at that price

While more representation is always good, the blind man looks a bit like he's casting a spell over the flowers. His cane needs to be longer.
Love the (new?) tulip pieces, but they look a little stunted. Wonder whether green "candle" pieces might help?

Could turn the friends one into a different wing. Maybe put more exotic plants in there.

Having a small chuckle at some of the mini figure expressions - maybe they’ve just been told the price of the set!

@daniellesa said:
"So which came first? The friends set, the original submission, then the ideas set?"
The Ideas submission was quite a while before the Friends release... No idea how long the Friends set had been worked on before release though.

@GamerJoe895 said:
"CAD exchange rate makes me want to cry ?? $330 USD vs $430 CAD is insane "

Well, $USD is actually $456 CAD, so the retail price is actually ok. The exchange rate however...

I like the set, but I will not be getting it. i bought 2 41757 and made a nice set I really envoy, so I don't see why I would get that one.

@Lordmoral said:
" @JavaBrix said:
"
Looks like I'm selling 41757 and picking this up."

That is what I am thinking as well."

Or it becomes a parts pack to make it bigger… ;)

1st job after getting this will be to illuminate it like the Kew Palm House Christmas illuminations!

So many awesome new elements and recolors, I really like this set. With that being said, the design is very reminiscent of the 41757, which is kind of disappointing as I would have hoped for something different. I suppose it could be nice as you could add onto that set if you have one, or two. I don't know, I really want to like this set, but it's almost $400!

Beautiful set. If they’d have found a way to make it under $200, I’d be a buyer.

@HJB2810 said:
" @b2_O said:
" @Somnium said:
"Poison Ivy's lair"

Finally, a batman set that isn't just another bat-vehicle!"

"I only work in white. And sometimes very, very light tan.""

Put it near a window, the white parts will be tan soon enough! ;)

@Belboz said:
" @gradatim said:
"Strongly disagree with people who are saying the ideas set is worse than 2x friends sets...
Architecturally the new building is 5x better and pleasing to the eye. Look at how well it is polished from outside! Fits much better to the Lego city. Personally I don't care much about plants.
The only downside is obviously the price "

Ermm.....architecturally you may be right but it's a botanical garden so the plants are kind of important don't you think?
"

I love all the plants in this set, but your comment makes me want to turn the interior into some sort of sculpture garden :)

Is that one of the first blind minifigures included?

Way to pricey for a non-licensed set

@Maxbricks14 said:
"Is that one of the first blind minifigures included?"

Not THE first, but still one of the first, yes. Previously there was a blind minifig with a guide dog in 60292, and several minifigs of specific characters who are blind (such as Vitruvius or Daredevil). https://brickset.com/minifigs/tag-Blind

@gradatim said:
"Strongly disagree with people who are saying the ideas set is worse than 2x friends sets...
Architecturally the new building is 5x better and pleasing to the eye. Look at how well it is polished from outside! Fits much better to the Lego city. Personally I don't care much about plants.
The only downside is obviously the price "

You can get FOUR Friends gardens for this price.

@Aanchir said:
" @Maxbricks14 said:
"Is that one of the first blind minifigures included?"

Not THE first, but still one of the first, yes. Previously there was a blind minifig with a guide dog in 60292, and several minifigs of specific characters who are blind (such as Vitruvius or Daredevil). https://brickset.com/minifigs/tag-Blind"

I see (although they don't) Thanks for the information.

Beautiful but that price point is crazy for me. I also wish with this many minifigures you got some skin tone variation. I think I'll finally get the friends botanical garden set.

Looks great!

And with real minifigures this time instead of grotesque minidolls!

Also happy to see the base plate. I'm not a fan of the "built up bases" so many sets have been coming with lately that don't add to it. (Examples: It added to the Horizon Tallneck, but not to the Galileo GWP.)

@MegaBlocks said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It will also be a nice bonus if, as rumoured, the Reading, Reading, Reading GWP overlaps (and doesn't sell out)!"

I just realized that this and 76294 go on sale at the same time, for the same price, and both have exclusive GWPs. Hmmmm..."

The timing isn't good. I know it's coming up to Christmas, but to be releasing so many large sets with limited GWPs isn't great."

I'd rather be tempted than disgusted, but I agree. I wish the school looked as pretty as this garden. I wish the garden wasn't priced like they're paying freaking Disney!!

@sjr60 said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
" @sjr60 said:
"It will also be a nice bonus if, as rumoured, the Reading, Reading, Reading GWP overlaps (and doesn't sell out)!"

I just realized that this and 76294 go on sale at the same time, for the same price, and both have exclusive GWPs. Hmmmm..."
Fortunately my vastly overpriced home insurance is due the same day, which makes Lego prices pretty trivial by comparison!"

Don't get me started. Insurance industry, argh! The bane of my existence!

Love it. Curious large number of minifigures, but ok. Really great design, though. Looks like the one on Belle Isle in Michigan. Suspect it was a highly profitable design as the part count is fluffed up in those small details, but nonetheless a really nice set.

$NZ 550 :( So might get it if I can find it at 20% off somewhere.

I'm glad LEGO finally released an expensive set I have little to no interest in. It's definitely well designed and if you like this kind of thing, great! But I have no use for it in my collection, so finally I get to save some money by passing on a LEGO set lol.

Must be full of creeper vines, because the LEGO price creep on even non-IP sets is growing rampant.

@lordofdragonss said:
" @gradatim said:
"Strongly disagree with people who are saying the ideas set is worse than 2x friends sets...
Architecturally the new building is 5x better and pleasing to the eye. Look at how well it is polished from outside! Fits much better to the Lego city. Personally I don't care much about plants.
The only downside is obviously the price "

You can get FOUR Friends gardens for this price."

And it still wouldn’t look nearly as good as this one…

I really like it, but undecided.. Maybe next year!

I think it’s a beautiful set. Loving the banana peel used as leafs, and animal crossing will be happy with tulips.
But why is the birds nest inside the botanical garden.

Also the blind man has a better expression for prof X(avier) of the X-men than prof X has now.

Stunning set. Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh in my local LEGO shop.

I like the look of it but not the price. I rather spend 300€ on loose bricks from different LEGO Stores to build my own botanical garden. But thats just me.
I have one question though. Does it belong in the Modular Building line? Its tagged as IDEAS and in my opinion it makes no sense beside last years Museum of History nor any other previous Modular Building. It is also not meant to be connected to such as it hasnt got the technic pins..
So, is this realy the next modular in the line or is it just an IDEAS Modular?
This is confusing..

@lumpybricks said:
"Beautiful but that price point is crazy for me. I also wish with this many minifigures you got some skin tone variation. I think I'll finally get the friends botanical garden set."

I used to be a big yellow minifig fan but D&D CMF has converted me to human skin tone minifigs

It looks nice, but I wonder, how many people will be willing to spends €330 on something like this? I'd think quite some people will skip this set either because of price or the size. Or both. And considering the design, I wonder if it wouldn't have been possible to make a set of just half the garden, in a way that you could buy two and combine them into the full thing. Obviously with some alterations between the halves to not make it look like you just put two of them together.

Beautiful design and gorgeous details (although I did love the incredible attention paid to the plants in the original submission). Importing some of the plants and details from the Friends version will be fun, so I'm not going to dispose of my 41757 set. Definitely a Day One purchase for me!

Fantastic

@Oli said:
" I like the look of it but not the price. I rather spend 300€ on loose bricks from different LEGO Stores to build my own botanical garden. But thats just me.
I have one question though. Does it belong in the Modular Building line? Its tagged as IDEAS and in my opinion it makes no sense beside last years Museum of History nor any other previous Modular Building. It is also not meant to be connected to such as it hasnt got the technic pins..
So, is this realy the next modular in the line or is it just an IDEAS Modular?
This is confusing..
"

No, it isn't a Modular. It is an IDEAS set. LEGO are trolling putting it on the Modulars page, no doubt they know it will cause discussion and arguments.

Really quite beautiful.

@CCC said:
" @Oli said:
" I like the look of it but not the price. I rather spend 300€ on loose bricks from different LEGO Stores to build my own botanical garden. But thats just me.
I have one question though. Does it belong in the Modular Building line? Its tagged as IDEAS and in my opinion it makes no sense beside last years Museum of History nor any other previous Modular Building. It is also not meant to be connected to such as it hasnt got the technic pins..
So, is this realy the next modular in the line or is it just an IDEAS Modular?
This is confusing..
"

No, it isn't a Modular. It is an IDEAS set. LEGO are trolling putting it on the Modulars page, no doubt they know it will cause discussion and arguments."
And sales!

While the set is superb, I think the GWP is a bit pants! On the hopelessly presented live stream, when there was a question about how it connected to the main building there was just a vague waffled reply about customising it and putting it anywhere you liked.
Actually looks like a few spare parts that don't fit anywhere!

It's beautiful! Could the photographer minifig be another sighting of The Donut Thief?? The Entrance Gate GWP looks fairly easy to recreate... but I still want it.

Are there any pictures alongside modular buildings?

I think this is great, but bad timing as I just finished my own modular version of 41757...but perhaps I can modify it again to fit into this building, and make it one full complex.

It is quite expensive but I am in Hong Kong where the cheapest LEGO can be found...so I will just wait for a short moment to get this...

Set of the year (at least for me) :)
This looks great and fits with my main interest in anything botanical / nature themed.

I wish they printed some white vertical mullion/rafter lines on the curved glass pieces. It's a major part of the wrought iron character of Victorian conservatories, which this set clearly takes inspiration from.

A gorgeous set!
And I don’t mind the GWP either.

Just that price is horrendous ($500 in Australia, or about a week’s rent for many people!) - LEGO ‘taking the piss’ on their customers, yet again!!

I’m also curious to see it built in-store being buying it - if the ‘glass’ roof panels are milky and not clear, it may cheapen and ruin the entire set!….

Sure wish lego would stop butchering such lovely products.

This is definitely day one for me. I need to figure out how to attach my Friends botanical MOC into this one.

Would a central tower for a palm tree from the original submission have made such a difference to the price. The side wings are very small, just enough space for the barista. Interesting to see if those new curved skylights start appearing in train and space stations.

"* It seems LEGO forgot about 21336 The Office, with fifteen minifigures, and 21337 Table Football, which has 22."

LEGO forgets all sorts of things. Like which way the Blacktron logo goes. On the 40580 Blacktron Cruiser, the instructions direct you to apply the logo sticker upside-down. Twice.

@sjr60 said:
" @followsclosely said:
"Are there any pictures alongside modular buildings?"
Probably not as you wouldn't find a glass house right next to another building in real life."

And this is why LEGO made the right choice in un-modularizing it.

@Boettner_Builds said:
" @sjr60 said:
" @followsclosely said:
"Are there any pictures alongside modular buildings?"
Probably not as you wouldn't find a glass house right next to another building in real life."

And this is why LEGO made the right choice in un-modularizing it."
Yes, my thoughts exactly! It would be ridiculous as a Modular, but I'm sure that anyone who desperately wants one can find 4 spare Technic pins somewhere!

@Darth_Dee said:
"It's nice but I already picked up two of the Friends 41757 which saves me $150."

I just picked up a second Friends botanical garden set to build the moc that's available

@Boettner_Builds said:
" @lordofdragonss said:
" @gradatim said:
"Strongly disagree with people who are saying the ideas set is worse than 2x friends sets...
Architecturally the new building is 5x better and pleasing to the eye. Look at how well it is polished from outside! Fits much better to the Lego city. Personally I don't care much about plants.
The only downside is obviously the price "

You can get FOUR Friends gardens for this price."

And it still wouldn’t look nearly as good as this one…
"
That depends how you build xD

I like it. Like it enough to go for it? Ehh, hoping for some reviews before release. I do have enough VIP points to cover the cost, plus getting the concurrent GWPs at release.

Looks like it would be a bit delicate to move being spanned across baseplates.

I feel the Friends one (or a custom larger version) could complement this one for holding the exotic plants. Or just move some of the exotics over to the bigger one and make room for them.

The Friends set retires this year BTW.

https://jaysbrickblog.com/reviews/review-lego-21353-the-botanical-garden-2024/

@Muggle said:
"It looks like maybe this is compatible with the Japanese Tea Garden set, with the modular trees and bases. "

@followsclosely said:
"Are there any pictures alongside modular buildings?"

https://jaysbrickblog.com/reviews/review-lego-21353-the-botanical-garden-2024/

@granto:
My LEGO Store is built across two baseplates, and the model survived an accident that the car conveying it did not. It all depends on how you build above the baseplates, if the gap between them will be a point of instability or not. In the case of Modulars, I believe they usually split the model so each baseplate is an independent structure, at which point the seam between the two baseplates absolutely is a fragile point, being only held together by a couple of low-mounted Technic pins. If you plate over the gap at the floor level, and build the walls above that point so they're sufficiently interlaced, you should be able to pick the entire thing up without even noticing where the two baseplates meet.

GWP is so laughably bad. Nothing unique about it. I don't know if the butterfly printing is or not but everything else can be sourced. I'll be waiting for the inevitable sale.

@AllanSmith said:
"https://jaysbrickblog.com/reviews/review-lego-21353-the-botanical-garden-2024/"

That confirms the - expected - milkiness of the glass panels, which is especially visible in the final couple of photos in the review.

@chrischoi45 said:
"GWP is so laughably bad. Nothing unique about it. I don't know if the butterfly printing is or not but everything else can be sourced. I'll be waiting for the inevitable sale."

The butterfly looks like the one above the door on 21338, a set that it was previously unique to. According to Bricklink’s numbering, it was only the second butterfly print.

@StyleCounselor said:
" @Muggle said:
"It looks like maybe this is compatible with the Japanese Tea Garden set, with the modular trees and bases. "

@followsclosely said:
"Are there any pictures alongside modular buildings?"

https://jaysbrickblog.com/reviews/review-lego-21353-the-botanical-garden-2024/ "
Which does, at least, confirm how daft it looks... what next? A lighthouse next door to the Corner Garage :-)

@rick77 said:
" @AllanSmith said:
"https://jaysbrickblog.com/reviews/review-lego-21353-the-botanical-garden-2024/"

That confirms the - expected - milkiness of the glass panels, which is especially visible in the final couple of photos in the review."
To be fair outside, in presumably bright sunlight, I'd be more worried about all the white bricks turning yellow! Looks fine in all the indoor photos.