Vote for your favourite model in the latest Ideas competition

Wow I’m pretty impressed by the lineup this time! Carwash and fishing were particularly good

@PurpleDave said:
" Build your hobby. So, build…LEGO? Sounds tough, but I’m willing to give it a try.

@SMC said:
"Ok light gray spaceman parts, I'm in!"

Damn. That’s a pretty sneaky way to guarantee a win. I approve."

I fell for it too so my vote went to "Build, Paint and Play!" as well.

While Build, Paint, and Play! not only has parts for a gray Classic Spaceman (and a torso already exists, in 71018-13) but also brings back fond memories of building plastic model kits, I love the title of Revenge of the Brick Separator, and Lego Collector's Room not only has a 497/918 homage, but also has the box for 60430, although if it won, who knows if that would make it into the final model. 80s Movable Joystick is cool, too, so I just can't decide. Finally, I can't be the only one who saw Paint Me! and immediately thought, "like one of your French girls." A certain other Lego-related competition might have something to do with that...

@WolfpackBricks63 said:
"There's no use in voting. The Classic Space mafia is going to rocket this entry into victory no matter what happens."
As an unrepentant member of the Classic Space Mafia, I certainly hope so! I voted for this model.

I am not interested in any of these, so I will forego my vote.

So... are the stickers printed? I'm so confused...

Plants and Vinyl for me. Such a cute little build.

@oldtodd33 said:
" @SMC said:
"Ok light gray spaceman parts, I'm in!"

Plot twist, Lego changes both spacemen to white for production. Careful what you wish for. "

If they do that then I'll have zero interest in such gift with purchase so when it releases Lego will not get any money from me to get the gift. If they don't give us what we want (or at least the key features of what we vote for) then they risk losing sales. Same happened recently with Italian Riviera, a set I was so looking for but the redesign didn't work for me so no purchase from this AFOL.

Build, Paint, and Play is slightly off to me. I fully understand it's based on the model-painting hobby, but the medium and subject create the impression that LEGO itself is painted by hand (we all know it's not) or is commonly hand-painted by model hobbyists which may be true for some customizers, but probably not enough to make it make full sense. I think if the painted model wasn't a minifigure, or wasn't a recognizable LEGO icon, it would work better as a LEGO depiction of the external hobby.

I do respect the hustle of trying to force LEGO's hand to deliver that grey helmet and airtanks needed to complete the figure started by the Rocket Boy, though. We also need someone to win a vote with a classic green helmet and tanks in the model to finish what the Exo-Suit torso started!

The GWP version will likely not look anything like this since it will be scaled down to a small set, plus TLG can just colour swap the Light Grey Spaceman parts to one which they have plenty of stocks.

Though I really hope they can release a Light Grey Spaceman helmet. The old one is very expensive.

@8BrickMario said:
"Build, Paint, and Play is slightly off to me. I fully understand it's based on the model-painting hobby, but the medium and subject create the impression that LEGO itself is painted by hand (we all know it's not) or is commonly hand-painted by model hobbyists which may be true for some customizers, but probably not enough to make it make full sense. I think if the painted model wasn't a minifigure, or wasn't a recognizable LEGO icon, it would work better as a LEGO depiction of the external hobby.

I do respect the hustle of trying to force LEGO's hand to deliver that grey helmet and airtanks needed to complete the figure started by the Rocket Boy, though. We also need someone to win a vote with a classic green helmet and tanks in the model to finish what the Exo-Suit torso started!"

The green helmet already exists, in 80054.

I voted for "Paint Me!", the other set with paints.

Several entries that I'd be very happy to get as a GWP. 2nd favourite was 'Gone Fishing' but 'Build, Paint and Play' got my vote for it's novelty value! Always good to get a few higher threshold GWPs to match higher price Lego exclusive sets.

@TheOtherMike said:
" @8BrickMario said:
"Build, Paint, and Play is slightly off to me. I fully understand it's based on the model-painting hobby, but the medium and subject create the impression that LEGO itself is painted by hand (we all know it's not) or is commonly hand-painted by model hobbyists which may be true for some customizers, but probably not enough to make it make full sense. I think if the painted model wasn't a minifigure, or wasn't a recognizable LEGO icon, it would work better as a LEGO depiction of the external hobby.

I do respect the hustle of trying to force LEGO's hand to deliver that grey helmet and airtanks needed to complete the figure started by the Rocket Boy, though. We also need someone to win a vote with a classic green helmet and tanks in the model to finish what the Exo-Suit torso started!"

The green helmet already exists, in 80054."

It’s also currently available on PaB.

@TheOtherMike said:
" @8BrickMario said:
"Build, Paint, and Play is slightly off to me. I fully understand it's based on the model-painting hobby, but the medium and subject create the impression that LEGO itself is painted by hand (we all know it's not) or is commonly hand-painted by model hobbyists which may be true for some customizers, but probably not enough to make it make full sense. I think if the painted model wasn't a minifigure, or wasn't a recognizable LEGO icon, it would work better as a LEGO depiction of the external hobby.

I do respect the hustle of trying to force LEGO's hand to deliver that grey helmet and airtanks needed to complete the figure started by the Rocket Boy, though. We also need someone to win a vote with a classic green helmet and tanks in the model to finish what the Exo-Suit torso started!"

The green helmet already exists, in 80054."

And the Exo-Suit already came with green air tanks.

My game room: it looks nice but it would not look like this at home. Rendering doesn’t seems realistic, unless there are 3 parts with lights.

That sprue looks a bit rickety. I don't really see it holding together for very long.

Most all of these builds look pretty good, but some of them are off in some way or another. Is your Lego-room that devoid of Lego? Mine isn't. And where's the backlog-boxes? The only thing you're building in that room is LIES. And come on, man. I don't even like washing my own car, why would I want to wash yours? That's crazy, you're crazy. Drive your bubbly car away from me, crazy person.

Gone Fishin'... mmmm, hmmm,... and still, just a-whishin'!!

:)

Pretty sure LEGO has never created new recolors for a GWP, so I’m afraid all of you voting for that entry just to get that helmet will be sorely disappointed.

Those classic space decals would be too big to fit on the torso.

Hmmmm....thought I had copyrighted 'Space Mafia' and 'Castle Mafia' ......... :-o

I have to concur with Wolfpackbricks63 but I have already voted for the fishing scene.

I think Build, Paint and Play! was the best out of the lot but I would have liked to see a sewing room. It would probably be very similar to the paint room, just with sewing materials, but as it's my other and more affordable hobby, it would have been nice to see.

@daniellesa said:
"I think Build, Paint and Play! was the best out of the lot but I would have liked to see a sewing room. It would probably be very similar to the paint room, just with sewing materials, but as it's my other and more affordable hobby, it would have been nice to see."

There was a submission but they rejected it as it was only sew sew.....

Yep..hat...coat......

Also, that sticker sheet better not have stickers.

I really like 'Eyes Bigger Than One's Stomach', that's a fun little scene, with the Sleeping Beauty-esque cake.

@Okay said:
"Pretty sure LEGO has never created new recolors for a GWP, so I’m afraid all of you voting for that entry just to get that helmet will be sorely disappointed. "

Thing is, the Build, Paint and Play is going to steamroller everything else, surely- not only because of the mafiosi, but because it is so much cleverer.

Democracy, huh? What does it all mean, anyway?

@recce said:
"Also, that sticker sheet better not have stickers."
There’s precedence for prints as stickers. A print was used to represent a sticker in 71013-15 CMF Series 16 Banana Guy but possibly because CMFs don’t use stickers. I don’t know if there are other examples.

Let's be real. They would probably change it to white and orange since that's what's in production.

@gearwheel said:
"One thing that sours this whole competition, for me at least, is that the winner will end up as a GwP, not a set freely purchasable. At 200-250 pieces, the GwP barrier is probably going to be at least $200."

Or worse...change it to an Insider Reward...further restricting availability :(

@winbrant said:
" @gearwheel said:
"One thing that sours this whole competition, for me at least, is that the winner will end up as a GwP, not a set freely purchasable. At 200-250 pieces, the GwP barrier is probably going to be at least $200."

Or worse...change it to an Insider Reward...further restricting availability :("

This may sound odd, but I’d rather it be an Insiders Reward. It’d give me something to spend all my points on.

My Grey Classic Spaceman is telling me to vote one way, but there are quite a few great submissions! Nevertheless, Classic Space gets my vote, even if they end up being red, orange, or white.

@Belboz said:" @daniellesa said:"I think Build, Paint and Play! was the best out of the lot but I would have liked to see a sewing room. It would probably be very similar to the paint room, just with sewing materials, but as it's my other and more affordable hobby, it would have been nice to see."

There was a submission but they rejected it as it was only sew sew.....

Yep..hat...coat......"

You realize that I can't let that go by without needling you for it.

@Capybara554321 said:"Let's be real. They would probably change it to white and orange since that's what's in production. "

White could work, being a neutral color, but model sprues aren't molded in colors like orange.

@Wallace_Brick_Designs said:
"
@winbrant said:
" @gearwheel said:
"One thing that sours this whole competition, for me at least, is that the winner will end up as a GwP, not a set freely purchasable. At 200-250 pieces, the GwP barrier is probably going to be at least $200."

Or worse...change it to an Insider Reward...further restricting availability :("

This may sound odd, but I’d rather it be an Insiders Reward. It’d give me something to spend all my points on."

That's what I was thinking. I've still got a lot of points left because I was saving up for 40786 and 40789. But if they've announced it for a GWP, I have no doubt that they'll stick to that.

Thanks for the advice.

@Okay said:
"Pretty sure LEGO has never created new recolors for a GWP, so I’m afraid all of you voting for that entry just to get that helmet will be sorely disappointed. "

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=2446&colorID=69&in=A

Not the first time, but there was a 16-year gap between since the previous use, and it hasn’t been used since.

@TheOtherMike:
Model sprues are molded in all kinds of colors, including white and orange. There’s an entire range of beginner level kits that don’t require using any paint or glue, so everything has to be molded in the final color. The car from the Dukes of Hazard has been produced in this style, and it’s got an orange body (only example I could think of on short notice).

@PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike:
Model sprues are molded in all kinds of colors, including white and orange. There’s an entire range of beginner level kits that don’t require using any paint or glue, so everything has to be molded in the final color. The car from the Dukes of Hazard has been produced in this style, and it’s got an orange body (only example I could think of on short notice)."
Otr check the some Gundam kits. Those generally have sprues in a wide variety of colors with often nuanced shades, including dual or even triple molded, sometimes metal-like, sometimes part polystyrene and part rubber-like material, and in some cases even hinges or joints molded as a single (but still moving!) piece.

@WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike:
Model sprues are molded in all kinds of colors, including white and orange. There’s an entire range of beginner level kits that don’t require using any paint or glue, so everything has to be molded in the final color. The car from the Dukes of Hazard has been produced in this style, and it’s got an orange body (only example I could think of on short notice)."
Otr check the some Gundam kits. Those generally have sprues in a wide variety of colors with often nuanced shades, including dual or even triple molded, sometimes metal-like, sometimes part polystyrene and part rubber-like material, and in some cases even hinges or joints molded as a single (but still moving!) piece."

Huh. A friend from college lived in Japan for four years (three there, one back here, and one more over there), and mentioned _many_ times in his online journal how he spent a lot of time building Gundam model kits during his stay, but he never went into a ton of detail on stuff like that. I do remember reading that they frequently had fully articulated fingers, which is something I don’t think I encountered on any toys in the US until I got the first Unicron Transformer (and even then, I don’t think I’ve encountered it again outside of Masterpiece Transformers).

@TheOtherMike said:"
@Capybara554321 said:"Let's be real. They would probably change it to white and orange since that's what's in production. "

White could work, being a neutral color, but model sprues aren't molded in colors like orange."

never seen a Gundam kit, eh?

@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @TheOtherMike:
Model sprues are molded in all kinds of colors, including white and orange. There’s an entire range of beginner level kits that don’t require using any paint or glue, so everything has to be molded in the final color. The car from the Dukes of Hazard has been produced in this style, and it’s got an orange body (only example I could think of on short notice)."
Otr check the some Gundam kits. Those generally have sprues in a wide variety of colors with often nuanced shades, including dual or even triple molded, sometimes metal-like, sometimes part polystyrene and part rubber-like material, and in some cases even hinges or joints molded as a single (but still moving!) piece."

Huh. A friend from college lived in Japan for four years (three there, one back here, and one more over there), and mentioned _many_ times in his online journal how he spent a lot of time building Gundam model kits during his stay, but he never went into a ton of detail on stuff like that. I do remember reading that they frequently had fully articulated fingers, which is something I don’t think I encountered on any toys in the US until I got the first Unicron Transformer (and even then, I don’t think I’ve encountered it again outside of Masterpiece Transformers)."

Just check out this bit....it takes some effort to have Adam Savage this flabbergasted....
https://youtu.be/xfmD1yYqP6k?si=NgE5D5QwwD7xGzV1&t=343

@PurpleDave said:" @Okay said:"Pretty sure LEGO has never created new recolors for a GWP, so I’m afraid all of you voting for that entry just to get that helmet will be sorely disappointed. "

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=2446&colorID=69&in=A

Not the first time, but there was a 16-year gap between since the previous use, and it hasn’t been used since.

@TheOtherMike:
Model sprues are molded in all kinds of colors, including white and orange. There’s an entire range of beginner level kits that don’t require using any paint or glue, so everything has to be molded in the final color. The car from the Dukes of Hazard has been produced in this style, and it’s got an orange body (only example I could think of on short notice)."

In my defense, it's been at least two decades since I put together a model kit, outside of two Snap-Tite kits: a Klingon D7 (that I never did get around to painting or applying the decals to) and a TIE Interceptor that was one of those that require no paint, but I wasn't even sure if the parts for that one were on a sprue.

@Jeddostotle7 said:

@TheOtherMike said:" @Capybara554321 said:"Let's be real. They would probably change it to white and orange since that's what's in production. "White could work, being a neutral color, but model sprues aren't molded in colors like orange."

never seen a Gundam kit, eh?"

Other than the two I mentioned earlier, every plastic model kit I ever put together was of a real-world vehicle."

@TheOtherMike said:
" @Jeddostotle7 said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @Capybara554321 said:
"Let's be real. They would probably change it to white and orange since that's what's in production."

White could work, being a neutral color, but model sprues aren't molded in colors like orange."

never seen a Gundam kit, eh?"

Other than the two I mentioned earlier, every plastic model kit I ever put together was of a real-world vehicle."

If you're curious, check out dalong.net. It's a photo review site and extensive visual catalog of nearly every Gundam model kit produced in the past 45 years. Site's in Korean, but the site menu is in English, and you don't really need to speak Korean to browse the pics.

@WizardOfOss:
It takes some effort to listen to Adam Savage for any length of time. From the comments, it sounds like this was more popular with the people designing the model kits than it was with the people building them.

@TheOtherMike:
I think the last model kit I put together may have been a Snap-Tite Space Shuttle that had decals for the names Enterprise/Columbia/Challenger/Discovery/Atlantis, but not Endeavour because that one didn't exist at the time. But they typically always included the runners in the box. For one thing, the runners kept the small parts from getting lost. They could just mold the shots and stack them right in the box, without any need to separate and sort the individual components. They could refer to the numbers on the runners to identify which pieces were used in each step. They were a built-in method of holding parts steady while either painting them or applying decals.

@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss :
It takes some effort to listen to Adam Savage for any length of time. From the comments, it sounds like this was more popular with the people designing the model kits than it was with the people building them."
Unfortunately haven't built it myself, but as far as I know this is widely regarded one of the very best Gundam kits ever made. So absurdly detailed, so much movement and layering, yet so easy to build even for beginners. No need to paint or glue, no special tools needed, all it takes is some patience....

The one common critisism I've seen is one we know all too well from Lego: Stickers! FOr some reason no one uderstands they only included stisckers, no water slide decals.

@WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss :
It takes some effort to listen to Adam Savage for any length of time. From the comments, it sounds like this was more popular with the people designing the model kits than it was with the people building them."
Unfortunately haven't built it myself, but as far as I know this is widely regarded one of the very best Gundam kits ever made. So absurdly detailed, so much movement and layering, yet so easy to build even for beginners. No need to paint or glue, no special tools needed, all it takes is some patience....

The one common critisism I've seen is one we know all too well from Lego: Stickers! FOr some reason no one uderstands they only included stisckers, no water slide decals."

I ran across three notable complaints pretty quickly in the comments. The most significant one is that these pre-formed joints wear out, loosen up, and can’t be disassembled, which means none of the common fixes for loose joints can be used on them. The other two stem from the fact that each wave tends to use a common frame, so those frames are frequently overburdened with attachments, and the construction within each wave can feel a bit same-y.

@PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @WizardOfOss :
It takes some effort to listen to Adam Savage for any length of time. From the comments, it sounds like this was more popular with the people designing the model kits than it was with the people building them."
Unfortunately haven't built it myself, but as far as I know this is widely regarded one of the very best Gundam kits ever made. So absurdly detailed, so much movement and layering, yet so easy to build even for beginners. No need to paint or glue, no special tools needed, all it takes is some patience....

The one common critisism I've seen is one we know all too well from Lego: Stickers! FOr some reason no one uderstands they only included stisckers, no water slide decals."

I ran across three notable complaints pretty quickly in the comments. The most significant one is that these pre-formed joints wear out, loosen up, and can’t be disassembled, which means none of the common fixes for loose joints can be used on them. The other two stem from the fact that each wave tends to use a common frame, so those frames are frequently overburdened with attachments, and the construction within each wave can feel a bit same-y."

That sounds like it's people complaining about a different line of Gundam model kits, the "Real Grade" line, which already solved those problems with the pre-molded joints (partly by limiting their use to specific parts of the inner frame rather than using them for the entire inner frame) a good few years before the Perfect Grade Unleashed that Adam was building in that video even came out. Similarly, the PGU also limits the use of those pre-molded joint pieces to a few specific areas, and in my experience in the Gunpla community I've never heard of anyone having those joints in their PGU RX-78s loosening up.

@SMC said:
"Ok light gray spaceman parts, I'm in!"

you can already make a classic grey spaceman, no need for new parts, so I don't understand all the fuzz.
Same with the blue spaceman, you can find them easy in vintage sets...

No interest in any of these entries btw,...don't really see the appeal.

@BelgianBricker said:
" @SMC said:
"Ok light gray spaceman parts, I'm in!"

you can already make a classic grey spaceman, no need for new parts, so I don't understand all the fuzz.
Same with the blue spaceman, you can find them easy in vintage sets...

No interest in any of these entries btw,...don't really see the appeal."

You can make an old-light-grey Spaceman, if you have stickers for the torso print. They never issued a printed torso in that color, though. You can also make the full torso in light-bley, and the legs are fairly common, but I can’t recall if the air tanks exist in light-bley, and the Benny-style helmet certainly doesn’t. So best you can do at present is make one that matches the style that started in the retro minifig boxes and concluded with the Exo-Suit. Problem is, you can’t get that style helmet in dark-pink, so that still leaves you with a mismatched set of Spacemen. What people want is full legs, full torso, air tanks, and a consistent helmet style across all colors, and every time we just get the torso it’s always going to have people hunting through set announcements looking for the missing components.

@PurpleDave said:
" @BelgianBricker said:
" @SMC said:
"Ok light gray spaceman parts, I'm in!"

you can already make a classic grey spaceman, no need for new parts, so I don't understand all the fuzz.
Same with the blue spaceman, you can find them easy in vintage sets...

No interest in any of these entries btw,...don't really see the appeal."

You can make an old-light-grey Spaceman, if you have stickers for the torso print. They never issued a printed torso in that color, though. You can also make the full torso in light-bley, and the legs are fairly common, but I can’t recall if the air tanks exist in light-bley, and the Benny-style helmet certainly doesn’t. So best you can do at present is make one that matches the style that started in the retro minifig boxes and concluded with the Exo-Suit. Problem is, you can’t get that style helmet in dark-pink, so that still leaves you with a mismatched set of Spacemen. What people want is full legs, full torso, air tanks, and a consistent helmet style across all colors, and every time we just get the torso it’s always going to have people hunting through set announcements looking for the missing components."

I have a light grey one: you simply use the light-blue-grey torso and legs, and the old light grey classic helmet and tanks; works perfectly. you cannot tell the color difference of the greys unless you examine the fig up close.l

@BelgianBricker said:
"I have a light grey one: you simply use the light-blue-grey torso and legs, and the old light grey classic helmet and tanks; works perfectly. you cannot tell the color difference of the greys unless you examine the fig up close.l"

Speak for yourself. Unless the lighting is crap (and sometimes even then, if we're talking cool-white fluroescent), I can tell which of the two I'm looking at when I've only got one piece in front of me. And I've got daylight spectrum all through my condo, so the only way I wouldn't be able to tell the difference is if I walked around with my eyes closed or the lights turned off. And the helmet still wouldn't match any that you can get outside of the Mondrian Five. At present, you've got green, dark-pink, orange, dark-purple, reddish-brown, dark-blue, and bright-light-blue, so less than 50% of all potential colors have one of the original helmets. Neither the modern helmet nor the Benny style helmet have the full range, but both are much closer, and both are still in production.

That design looks cool but as a computer geek and a gamer I had to vote for the gaming setup.

@PurpleDave said:
" @BelgianBricker said:
"I have a light grey one: you simply use the light-blue-grey torso and legs, and the old light grey classic helmet and tanks; works perfectly. you cannot tell the color difference of the greys unless you examine the fig up close.l"

Speak for yourself. Unless the lighting is crap (and sometimes even then, if we're talking cool-white fluroescent), I can tell which of the two I'm looking at when I've only got one piece in front of me. And I've got daylight spectrum all through my condo, so the only way I wouldn't be able to tell the difference is if I walked around with my eyes closed or the lights turned off. And the helmet still wouldn't match any that you can get outside of the Mondrian Five. At present, you've got green, dark-pink, orange, dark-purple, reddish-brown, dark-blue, and bright-light-blue, so less than 50% of all potential colors have one of the original helmets. Neither the modern helmet nor the Benny style helmet have the full range, but both are much closer, and both are still in production."

my spacemen are on, display in my entry-hall: you really cannot tell the color difference, because the light-grey classic helmet is mainly hollow. Here is an actual picture: https://i.postimg.cc/d0sWwHPq/spaceman.jpg

And the helmet does exist, it came in the yellow castle set. I dont know what you mean with "style" but even the vintage classic space-helmets have different "styles" (with and without dimples, thin and thick strap), so I don't understand nor see the problem there.

@BelgianBricker said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @BelgianBricker said:
"I have a light grey one: you simply use the light-blue-grey torso and legs, and the old light grey classic helmet and tanks; works perfectly. you cannot tell the color difference of the greys unless you examine the fig up close.l"

Speak for yourself. Unless the lighting is crap (and sometimes even then, if we're talking cool-white fluroescent), I can tell which of the two I'm looking at when I've only got one piece in front of me. And I've got daylight spectrum all through my condo, so the only way I wouldn't be able to tell the difference is if I walked around with my eyes closed or the lights turned off. And the helmet still wouldn't match any that you can get outside of the Mondrian Five. At present, you've got green, dark-pink, orange, dark-purple, reddish-brown, dark-blue, and bright-light-blue, so less than 50% of all potential colors have one of the original helmets. Neither the modern helmet nor the Benny style helmet have the full range, but both are much closer, and both are still in production."

my spacemen are on, display in my entry-hall: you really cannot tell the color difference, because the light-grey classic helmet is mainly hollow. Here is an actual picture: https://i.postimg.cc/d0sWwHPq/spaceman.jpg

And the helmet does exist, it came in the yellow castle set. I dont know what you mean with "style" but even the vintage classic space-helmets have different "styles" (with and without dimples, thin and thick strap), so I don't understand nor see the problem there."

I can’t tell much of anything from that picture because it’s so compressed, but I used to match lighting color gels by sight faster than other members of the light crew could by looking for ID numbers that weren’t always present. If your display is lit solely by a low-burning fireplace, I’d have trouble telling the colors apart. Otherwise, I’d spot the difference. We have a guy in my LUG who built the Penobscot Building from Detroit (the design is believed to have been ripped off to make the Empire State Building). It’s light-grey and stands 11.5’ tall, and I can stand at the base and point out every single instance of an old light-grey brick that’s visible from floor level. Some people just have better color sense than others.

I voted Yard Sale!
Cute set, love the design of that pickup truck.