Really hope this does well so we can get the classic A or preferably to me, a Kelvin timeline A

Elementary, my dear Data

Also, is Lego making up for something? So much good news in one day? and where is Tasha?
Or Q? Or any of those random people sitting to the left of Data who die every 5 seconds?

no Spock...

If I could drop $400 by the 28th, I'd even venture out on Black Friday to get this.

Not much of a Star Trek fan, but I did think it would be cool if this was a playset you could fit the figures in and swoosh it around.

Guess my bank account can take a quick breather.

Very glad that Lego has got Star Trek, although I have no interest whatsoever in The Next Generation. Just hoping the path is now open for the original.

Can't wait to get this. It coincides with a week off work I'd already booked off so this is perfect!

@Andrusi said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"I will play devil's advocate here and say that I prefer the BlueBrixx version. "

Grass green, water wet, AustinPowers wants to tell us all how great BlueBrixx is."
Maybe not BlueBrixx in general. But their Star Trek sets were awesome, especially the mid-size and UCS-style ships.
I recently built the mid-size DS9 Runabout, the Stargazer and the Excelsior, and I am so glad I got them when they were still available, because we will never get anything like them from LEGO, and even if, not at the same price and quality.

@AustinPowers said:
" @Andrusi said:
"I don't think those of you talking about the A are actually thinking of the A, which was the replacement Enterprise introduced at the end of Star Trek IV."
"N-C-C-1-7-0-1. No bloody A - B - C - or D!" "

Scotty line from Relics!

the lighting kit will make this look awersome

They will get the hardcore Trek fans no matter what but I think the ship straight up looks terrible.

They did a good job making the enterprise D out of lego, but The enterprise D is just straight up ugly.

Ro and the shuttlecraft being GWP exclusives on a FOUR HUNDRED DOLLAR SET is just scummy. Way to expensive

@SMC said:
"Horrible that almost all the graphics are stickers on an adult display set."

*A 400 dollar adult display set with DLC

@SeparatorGuyChallis said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @Andrusi said:
"I don't think those of you talking about the A are actually thinking of the A, which was the replacement Enterprise introduced at the end of Star Trek IV."
"N-C-C-1-7-0-1. No bloody A - B - C - or D!" "

Scotty line from Relics!"
Mansplaining

@Bobert2009 said:
" @SMC said:
"Horrible that almost all the graphics are stickers on an adult display set."

*A 400 dollar adult display set with DLC"

Can you call it DLC when it doesn't fit on the set at all? It's just another Star trek set. This is quite different from the Death Star situation.

I am surprised that the official announcement took this long.

I can’t wait to get these figs and recreate that Big Bang Theory Episode! :D

Of course I have to have it, I'm just dissapointed the under side of the saucer section looks so blocky and ugly.

I was wondering how on earth lego would pull it off considering the, in my opinion, poor shaping on the bluebrix models. There are some odd looking proportions and design choices but lego's expertise definitely shows through. Very glad it's not the original enterprise to be honest, as I doubt I would have picked up a model of that ship, but this one is definitely going on my shelf one day

I may need to buy this.

FINALLY!!!

I like how the Trekkies get really giddy about this set. Good for them!

Personally I don't think this a very attractive ship (its 60s design roots can't be denied) and I think it is even less attractive in Lego form. And even if I liked the ship itself more, I'm not looking for yet another pricey display only set. I already have one of those...

https://brickset.com/sets/40768-1/%7B-%7D
https://www.lego.com/en-ca/product/tbdst-bfcm-40768
Feel free to update that page as well.

Star Trek: Type-15 Shuttlepod confirmed!

Chief O'Brien?

@AustinPowers said:
"The strange feeling, at least if you're from Germany, is that it's all been done before, except for the minifigs, and better and cheaper as well. "

Ah, but LEGO is just matching the original vs TNG. I got the same feeling when I watched half an episode of TNG way back when. I got the feeling that it has all been done before and better.

@ACubeInABox said:
"Wake up babe, $400 minifigure pack just dropped "

for real bro, no interior? this just looks too small

@AustinPowers said:
"To me it's all about value for money. LEGO sets like 10497 or 21309 offer great value for money, as do many others. But often, the more you get into "adult collector's" sets like this one, LEGO seems to go for minimal effort for the maximum amount of money. And that's where I draw the line, because I don't like to be ripped off.
So yes, I'd like to think that I also have an informed and experienced mind. "

For me, 10497 and 21309 are adult LEGO collector's sets. Whereas this one is a (adult) franchise collector's set. And personally, I don't mind if fans of the franchise get ripped off when buying it, especially if they are not really going to be buying much other LEGO.

@Your_Future_President said:
"Me to my my wallet:

Make it so"

Affirmative! I would have loved interiors, especially at that price, but I'm hoping they release some in the future. Along with other ships.

Gonna need to buy two sets of figures so Troi and w crusher can have a uniform then I can make a Q, Lt Barclay, and O'Brien.

@CCC said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"To me it's all about value for money. LEGO sets like 10497 or 21309 offer great value for money, as do many others. But often, the more you get into "adult collector's" sets like this one, LEGO seems to go for minimal effort for the maximum amount of money. And that's where I draw the line, because I don't like to be ripped off.
So yes, I'd like to think that I also have an informed and experienced mind. "

For me, 10497 and 21309 are adult LEGO collector's sets. Whereas this one is a (adult) franchise collector's set. And personally, I don't mind if fans of the franchise get ripped off when buying it, especially if they are not really going to be buying much other LEGO."
Imho that's a weird way of looking at it.

And as for 10497, while it's clearly nostalgia bait, it's also a very swooshable playset with plenty of play features for kids. 21309 otoh, yeah, not so much. (Even though it's also swooshable)

I would be totally sold except for that under saucer aspect, It looks like it was designed in 2005 a bit too angular but I’m not saying no just have some reservations.

It aint perfect, but it's d*****d fine. It's a next to impossible shape to pull off in System. Some colouring choices are... unexpected. I'd love to have seen at least Tasha, but I can hope for future sets including her, Miles, Barclay, Q...

Also, Troi looks better in uniform, an alternate torso/leg combo might have been nice :D

A rare day one purchase, but that GWP is FOMO as hell.

@bamaker said:
"Where's the bridge?"

They have to save something for the next sets...

Great set. I do wish it was TOS rather than TNG, but I have high hopes we’ll get the original squad eventually!

For those of you commenting about it looking kind of garbage, there's a reason for that, and I'm brave enough to say it.

The Galaxy class is a garbage design. Not necessarily TLG's fault, and they did their best making it as pretty as possible at this scale. It's better than most fan interpretations that I've seen (including my own.) They've done a great job at streamlining a difficult shape to build with LEGO as much as possible and keep the detail. Also, plus that it appears that there are a *lot* of printed parts in here, pleasantly surprised that it looks like the sloped pieces around the edge of the command hull are printed.

Lego have done Star Trek sets for years, they first started making them in 1999.

Yes, a Whoopi Goldberg minifigure with way too many unnecessary accessories!

@AustinPowers said:
" @Vladtheb said:
"Great set. I do wish it was TOS rather than TNG, but I have high hopes we’ll get the original squad eventually!"
I'd be all for a Star Trek CMF series (or several). I mean, they did two Simpsons ones, so why not Trek as well. "

Presumably as the Simpsons was meant to be popular with kids and adults, whereas Star Trek is not really popular with today's kids. But worse than that a Star Trek CMF would be almost as boring and repetitive as the DFB football set if they did multiple crew members. They are essentially the same uniform in three colours, so the only different parts would be the heads/hair.

So this is LEGO 2025 ...

BIG grey sets for display. Do not touch, MOC, play or even evolve as a human.

@wizpip said:
"For those of you worried it's not the A, not a bridge set, etc... I'm sure those will come, especially if this sells well."

Is there any need for any other TNG sets though? Once they have done the main crew on the display stand for this set, I doubt there is much demand for more minifig scale sets with the same repeated characters in. If they were planning more minifigure sets, there was no need to add them all here and it could have been done at a lower price point. And if they do smaller sets while this is out, the small sets will make this one redundant for those wanting the minifigures.

Maybe they will do other variants of the TV show with the original cast or the new TV series at least that way, they don't have to repeat the characters again.

What? 380€? No way!
Beam me up, Scotty.

@Cergorach said:
" @IgelCampus said:
"The price and stickers are totally unacceptable for me but I will bricklink the figures later I guess."
And you expect that those mini figs will be collectively significantly cheaper then just buying the whole set? I expect those minis to be VERY expensive on the secondary market!"

The full set of minifigures will be expensive, but will be cheaper than the set as a whole. This is the type of set where the main model will sell well by itself as no everyone will want the figures and just want the ship, and the minifigures will also sell well as a group to anyone wanting just the figures for minifigurescale MOCs. And split like that will make the reseller money.

Of course someone wanting just the figures could buy the set and sell off the ship themselves to save a bit more than buying from a reseller. Especially if they buy early and get the GWP which will be expensive/hard to get for collectors or good to sell depending on viewpoint.

@Blondie_Wan said:
" @CCC said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @Vladtheb said:
"Great set. I do wish it was TOS rather than TNG, but I have high hopes we’ll get the original squad eventually!"
I'd be all for a Star Trek CMF series (or several). I mean, they did two Simpsons ones, so why not Trek as well. "

Presumably as the Simpsons was meant to be popular with kids and adults, whereas Star Trek is not really popular with today's kids. But worse than that a Star Trek CMF would be almost as boring and repetitive as the DFB football set if they did multiple crew members. They are essentially the same uniform in three colours, so the only different parts would be the heads/hair.
"

Ehh… really not. Aside from a fair amount of variation even within one series, different eras of Trek have totally different Starfleet uniform designs, and even within the same era can have different uniform styles for different postings, as seen with DS9 and concurrent episodes of TNG or Voyager. And that’s just within Starfleet, not even touching civilians, or the countless alien powers and civilizations with their own distinctive looks.

Hell, if for some reason they wanted to, they could do a “CMF” series devoted to a single Star Trek character - Kirk, say - that offered 12 or 16 totally different looks for just that one character, never mind a series they’d actually do."

That is assuming that they do it across the whole franchise and not for a specific series. As for uniforms looking different, look at what they have done here. There is a red one, a blue one and a yellow one. The two red and two yellow ones look exactly the same. So if they applied that to Kirk's era, I'd expect them to do one yellow one for Kirk, Chekov, Sulu, one blue one for Spock and McCoy and one red for Scott and Uhura and maybe a few generic redshirts. Rather than a CMF, they might as well put them all into a set, add in loads of small bricks to build a bridge and some equipment on a plate build base and charge £200 for it.

I'll probably get some of the minifigs in the second-hand market, but the set doesn't interest me, even though I am a Trek fan.

@Ephseb said:
"uh, I'm far from a Star Trek expert, but is the ship from the source material really so... stubby? squished along the front-rear axis? from the top, it looks wrong to me."

The original and A had circular saucer sections. D was a wide oval. E was a long oval, I think. Can’t remember what B or C looked like.

Thankfully I never seen a second of star trek so I will have no need to purchase this. Price way too extreme for people who are not hard core trekkies. The figures look nice. But the model is basically just for display only with nothing for the minifigures to interact with. Which is different than star wars models which are often minifigure scale so people who never seen the franchise can use it as a fun toy. Not that are any people who haven't seen star wars

@CCC said:
" @wizpip said:
"For those of you worried it's not the A, not a bridge set, etc... I'm sure those will come, especially if this sells well."

Is there any need for any other TNG sets though? Once they have done the main crew on the display stand for this set, I doubt there is much demand for more minifig scale sets with the same repeated characters in. If they were planning more minifigure sets, there was no need to add them all here and it could have been done at a lower price point. And if they do smaller sets while this is out, the small sets will make this one redundant for those wanting the minifigures.

Maybe they will do other variants of the TV show with the original cast or the new TV series at least that way, they don't have to repeat the characters again."

They hinted on the live stream that if it does well there may be more... which suggests to me they've already designed more.

You could have a Yar set with Armus, A bridge set with the crew again (maybe in different outfits), something Q related, A Voyager with crew, DS9 with crew, etc etc. I wouldn't be surprised if a great many sets come out of this. TNG, VOY, and DS9 were all released in the era where many of us just hit our 40s, and we're perceived as being ready to invest our life savings into this. And they're not wrong.

Plus of course, there's the 1701-A... and if they produce a Klingon Bird of Prey I can almost guarantee it will come with a whale.

To me there is only one Enterprise, and it belongs to Kirk and Spock. Just saved 380 Euros :-)

I would have been tempted by the shuttle if it was a stand alone set, but these adult only high price point sets are tiring me out. It would be nice to get some more affordable sets aimed at adults… hopefully the not Doc Brown’s Delorian is a taste of things to come.

Je ne suis pas absolument fan, mais je le trouve très réussi.

Yikes, those stickers are matched terribly! The new hair molds do look nice, though.

@CapnRex101 said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"I will play devil's advocate here and say that I prefer the BlueBrixx version.
About the same size, all prints (and quite a few more than on this one too) and at half the price."

In case anybody is curious, as I was, this is the BlueBrixx version in question: https://www.merlinsbricks.com/sets/bb-104184/

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but that design looks vastly inferior to me, especially the saucer."

I fell for the BlueBrixx hard sell as well and although I couldn't find any Star Trek sets on their website I was rather taken with UCS (or their version of it) Robocop. And that's not a line that Lego are ever going to release, even at twice the price and with stickers.

I was excited hearing LEGO would do star trek, but this is a dissapointment.
The hard angles on the dish really doesn't make it look good.
The fact that it has no interior virtually turns it into a grey blob of plastic...considering that, the price is simply outrageous.
I really really hope LEGO will make a playset version.
But if this is the future for LEGO star TREK, then I'm afraid this line is going to be a failure...

Very disapointed. Something is wrong with this set. Looks ugly.

This is definitely a set they'll be revisiting in the future. They should have gone all-in with custom moulding for the edges of the saucer section.

@TheBrickPal said:
"Expensive Icons sets— the final frontier. These are the voyages of the Starship AFOL. Its continuing mission— to build strange new IPs, to seek out new sets and minifigs, to boldly go where no wallet has gone before…"

I seriously wonder how many LANs reviewing this knows anything about Star Trek. It is far harder to get into than Star Wars, and almost no young people I know seen a second if it. Set itself is an impossible sell outside the fandom. Not to mention this is purely a display set. No interior to interact with

Was waiting for this, but it's just a big grey saucer plank, no bridge.

I love TNG but this just doesn't do it, the octagonal angles are just weird.

Looks good, but waaaay to huge. I don't like that everything has to be in UCS format.

I read this comments section with The Simpsons Comic Book Guy’s voice.

*Congratulations to TNG fans, I hope you’re pleased!

@Blondie_Wan said:
" @Bobert2009 said:
" @wizpip said:
"For those of you worried it's not the A, not a bridge set, etc... I'm sure those will come, especially if this sells well."

Will it though? The Indiana Jones line sold well and that has yet to be followed up."

Old licenses can do well as one-off sets, but to be whole, ongoing themes, they want ongoing media support. The Indiana Jones theme came to life alongside the two most recent movies, but there was over a decade between them, mostly with no indication the fourth movie would be followed up by a fifth, and right now there’s no indication of any more Indy productions in the future. Star Trek, OTOH, has never gone away for more than five years or so at most, and there have been new screen releases (movie, television, whatever) every year since 2016; there’s a currently-running TV show whose endpoint has been announced but which still has two seasons left to go, which should run it into 2027; another show is waiting to make its debut in January, and similarly has (at least) two seasons ahead of it, that should likewise take it to at least ‘27.

And for back catalog, there is simply much much more to make sets of with Star Trek than with Indy. Putting aside books and comics and videogames and whatnot, the Indiana Jones franchise is five movies and a short TV series, with no concrete plans for anything more beyond the 40 to 45 hours of screen time of material that now exists. Star Trek currently consists of 11 TV series (with a 12th arriving in a little over two months), 13 theatrically-released features plus a direct-to-streaming one, and a handful of shorts; there are over 900 discrete installments (episodes, movies, and shorts) totalling over 600 hours of screen time.

That’s no guarantee, of course; Star Trek has never been quite the same merchandising goldmine Star Wars has, despite the most fervent wishes of the Paramount / CBS / Viacom corporate empire. But there’s still a lot of potential there with Star Trek. I love Indiana Jones as well, and there are specific things from that franchise I’ve wanted sets of for years, but I see a lot more possibilities for an ongoing theme with Trek.

(Granted, I said the same about Doctor Who, and that license never made it beyond the Ideas set and two LEGO Dimensions packs, so what do I know…)"

Problem for ST is you will be hard pressed to find fans under 40. Unlike SW, where it took until after ROTS for content to really come out, ST was already filled with more movies and TV shows. So basically any1 can catch up with SW. 6 movies in 30 years anyone can do. You didn't even need to be a fan. This is why SW till this day does well with kids and lego has no problem releasing smaller kids alongside adult priced sets. Helps more SW ships scales well with lego minifigures

Love the build and the Minifigs
But I wish they'd made it with the original series cast
Id love Spock, Kirk and McCoy figs maybe A Gorn Lego!

I think this looks fantastic!
And I’m not even a Trekkie.

But I don’t see anywhere near 3,600 pieces here, the model isn’t that big (60cm)!
They must be all tiny pieces.
The value-for-money is not good, but the minifigs make up for a lot of that.

The huge UCS Star Destroyer was just 4,800 pieces and twice as long and about 5 times the size!

@CCC said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
" @CCC said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @Vladtheb said:
"Great set. I do wish it was TOS rather than TNG, but I have high hopes we’ll get the original squad eventually!"
I'd be all for a Star Trek CMF series (or several). I mean, they did two Simpsons ones, so why not Trek as well. "

Presumably as the Simpsons was meant to be popular with kids and adults, whereas Star Trek is not really popular with today's kids. But worse than that a Star Trek CMF would be almost as boring and repetitive as the DFB football set if they did multiple crew members. They are essentially the same uniform in three colours, so the only different parts would be the heads/hair.
"

Ehh… really not. Aside from a fair amount of variation even within one series, different eras of Trek have totally different Starfleet uniform designs, and even within the same era can have different uniform styles for different postings, as seen with DS9 and concurrent episodes of TNG or Voyager. And that’s just within Starfleet, not even touching civilians, or the countless alien powers and civilizations with their own distinctive looks.

Hell, if for some reason they wanted to, they could do a “CMF” series devoted to a single Star Trek character - Kirk, say - that offered 12 or 16 totally different looks for just that one character, never mind a series they’d actually do."

That is assuming that they do it across the whole franchise and not for a specific series. As for uniforms looking different, look at what they have done here. There is a red one, a blue one and a yellow one. The two red and two yellow ones look exactly the same. So if they applied that to Kirk's era, I'd expect them to do one yellow one for Kirk, Chekov, Sulu, one blue one for Spock and McCoy and one red for Scott and Uhura and maybe a few generic redshirts. Rather than a CMF, they might as well put them all into a set, add in loads of small bricks to build a bridge and some equipment on a plate build base and charge £200 for it."

The two red ones are the same as each other, but the three yellow torsos are different. Worf’s has his baldric printed on it, and Data’s has differently-colored hands.

The TOS uniforms are more gendered than the TNG ones, so I wouldn’t expect Uhura’s and Scott’s torsos to be the same. They also have larger rank indicators than the TNG ones, so if they’re fine doing sleeve printing on these just for the shoulders, I think it’s entirely possible they’d put ranks on TOS torsos, which means different torso prints for captains, commanders, lieutenants, etc. And Kirk could very well have the green wraparound rather than the standard gold shirt.

Moreover, I don’t think a collectible minifigure series need be limited to just main characters from one particular iteration of the franchise. It could be a mix of distinctive variants of main characters along with guest characters from a single episode or movie - say, “The City on the Edge of Forever” 1930s Kirk, Edith Keeler, Dixon Hill Picard, Captain Dathon, “Our Man Bashir” 1960s Elim Garak, Dr. Gillian Taylor, the Ilia probe, Niners baseball uniform Sisko, Captain Proton Tom Paris, Mistress of the Winter Constellations Tendi, Protostar-class training hologram Janeway, Kasidy Yates, “The Visitor” alternate future Jake Sisko, Eline, Gul Madred, and the “Arena” Gorn captain, for example. There’s, like, literally hundreds - perhaps thousands - of characters they could do.

Would they? I don’t pretend to know… but I will just note that the Dungeons & Dragons stuff happened for D&D’s 50th anniversary. Star Trek may not be as big as Star Wars, but I think it’s likely bigger than D&D, and it happens to have its 60th anniversary next year.

As much as the long-time Trek fan in me wants to like this, I just don't.

The hard angles on what's supposed to be a rounded hull make the whole thing look, well, Mega Bloks-y.

And the pricetag is pretty high for an oddly proportioned display piece of a ship and three quarters of a series of CMFs.

@rebelpilotJYZ said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
" @Bobert2009 said:
" @wizpip said:
"For those of you worried it's not the A, not a bridge set, etc... I'm sure those will come, especially if this sells well."

Will it though? The Indiana Jones line sold well and that has yet to be followed up."

Old licenses can do well as one-off sets, but to be whole, ongoing themes, they want ongoing media support. The Indiana Jones theme came to life alongside the two most recent movies, but there was over a decade between them, mostly with no indication the fourth movie would be followed up by a fifth, and right now there’s no indication of any more Indy productions in the future. Star Trek, OTOH, has never gone away for more than five years or so at most, and there have been new screen releases (movie, television, whatever) every year since 2016; there’s a currently-running TV show whose endpoint has been announced but which still has two seasons left to go, which should run it into 2027; another show is waiting to make its debut in January, and similarly has (at least) two seasons ahead of it, that should likewise take it to at least ‘27.

And for back catalog, there is simply much much more to make sets of with Star Trek than with Indy. Putting aside books and comics and videogames and whatnot, the Indiana Jones franchise is five movies and a short TV series, with no concrete plans for anything more beyond the 40 to 45 hours of screen time of material that now exists. Star Trek currently consists of 11 TV series (with a 12th arriving in a little over two months), 13 theatrically-released features plus a direct-to-streaming one, and a handful of shorts; there are over 900 discrete installments (episodes, movies, and shorts) totalling over 600 hours of screen time.

That’s no guarantee, of course; Star Trek has never been quite the same merchandising goldmine Star Wars has, despite the most fervent wishes of the Paramount / CBS / Viacom corporate empire. But there’s still a lot of potential there with Star Trek. I love Indiana Jones as well, and there are specific things from that franchise I’ve wanted sets of for years, but I see a lot more possibilities for an ongoing theme with Trek.

(Granted, I said the same about Doctor Who, and that license never made it beyond the Ideas set and two LEGO Dimensions packs, so what do I know…)"

Problem for ST is you will be hard pressed to find fans under 40. Unlike SW, where it took until after ROTS for content to really come out, ST was already filled with more movies and TV shows. So basically any1 can catch up with SW. 6 movies in 30 years anyone can do. You didn't even need to be a fan. This is why SW till this day does well with kids and lego has no problem releasing smaller kids alongside adult priced sets. Helps more SW ships scales well with lego minifigures"
This is one argument that I never understood. Since when has Star Wars been interesting for kids?
Sure, most of the plots in Star Wars are beyond stupid, which many kids seem to love, while Star Trek is intelligent (except most of the modern stuff) and therefore more interesting for adults, but overall I have never met a kid that was interested in either Star Trek or Star Wars.

Easy hard pass.

Mega Bloks did it better.

https://web.archive.org/web/20041209205156/http://www.megabloks.com/eng/products/description.php?iID=347&subCat=1

@SithLord196 said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"The strange feeling, at least if you're from Germany, is that it's all been done before, except for the minifigs, and better and cheaper as well. Even if LEGO now do rehashes of all the Star Trek sets BlueBrixx offered over the years, it still wouldn't be anything new.
Maybe if they do a line of "set" sets, like the bridge(s) or other interior spaces, which BlueBrixx never got around to, but if they only do ships and accessories, well, we've already had plenty of those. "

At this point I'm pretty sure that Brickset simply isn't a website for you. All I ever see you post are complaints about Lego and how some other clone brand supposedly made a better set.

If you really despise Lego that much, why are you posting on a Lego fan site?"

Unfortunately, it isn't just them, it's the majority of commenters here. Even though I'm somewhat of a cynic by nature if I ever want to feel like the most optimistic person in the world I just hop into the comments here to wade amongst the habitual complainers.

When I see the end result I don't think it's the best space ship to be made out of Lego. The whole upper round section looks weird. But I'm sure ST fans will be happy. Hopefully a smaller sized ship will be made later on.

@Blondie_Wan said:
"The two red ones are the same as each other, but the three yellow torsos are different. Worf’s has his baldric printed on it, and Data’s has differently-colored hands.

The TOS uniforms are more gendered than the TNG ones, so I wouldn’t expect Uhura’s and Scott’s torsos to be the same.
"

I know Worf's has print across it, that is why I said TWO yellow ones and not three. Personally, I don't consider switching the hands makes the torso different. It may have a different part code once assembled, but the print is exactly the same. And that was my point, the prints are all the same, just different colours.

If they do the original series, I'd imagine they would use the same torso for male and female as it means they don't have to print skin colours on the torsos for the more open neckline. The feminine outfit would probably differ in the legs with print for the dress rather than trousers.

to boldly go up in price

@Jackthenipper said:
"I would have been tempted by the shuttle if it was a stand alone set, but these adult only high price point sets are tiring me out. It would be nice to get some more affordable sets aimed at adults… hopefully the not Doc Brown’s Delorian is a taste of things to come."

I've seen a number of people both here and elsewhere say that they'd want the shuttle if it was a stand alone set. I find it strange that anyone would want that set by itself without any other Star Trek minifigures or sets.

The box art is bad, but that rear 3/4 on the news article, wow amazing.

@CapnRex101 said:
"With regard to interior, which a few people have mentioned, how could there realistically be space for any minifigure-scale interior? The saucer on the Enterprise-D is pretty thin and the model would need to be either absurdly large or the saucer completely out of proportion to accommodate an interior."

Possibly, right in the center, where it’s thickest, you might be able to fit a section of Jeffries Tube to have a single minifig crawling through.

@Blondie_Wan:
I mean…yeah, but look at stuff like TLM/TLBM/TLNM CMFs, where each of the five waves had a distinct set of core characters represented. You could do that with just the Captains, and that’d chew up most of the series. To do the full main cast of every show like that, you’d need more than 60 minifigs just to fit everyone in. It would be much easier to pull off a 16-count series with one of each main cast from a particular show, and some supporting characters to fill out the roster, and then just do the same for at least the live-action shows through Enterprise. That is, assuming you can come up with alternate outfits for each main cast.

The Sticker Generation!

Looks great, however there is no Bridge! 400 dollars? In my opinion, more a 200 ~ 250 dollar worth set.

I'm sure, someone, will make a better version of this set. There is a lot of detail, yet the minifigs should be at the Bridge, cause the Entreprise and the Bridge are wellknown for Star Trek fans. If they can make a 5000 or 7000 pieces Star Wars with a lot of detail, they eventually will do the same with Star Trek.

If they ever create a Borg Cube, I hope it will have a lot of detail, even for a cube!

I'm getting this day one, but I have to say I am sorely disappointed. No Q? I'd better see at least three variants of him in the inevitable Collectible Minifigure Range, I need me some Judge Robes Q, Starfleet Uniform Q and World War 3 Drugged Up Soldier Q. (Or if that's not within LEGO's realm of acceptable offerings, than Old Man Q from Picard will do nicely.)

Honestly though it's great to see Star Trek get some LEGO love, the 'other brands' of the past had some rather dubious choices of character offerings and while I do enjoy what I have, I've always wanted my two favorite sci-fi franchises in identical brick form. Emperor Palpatine, prepare to meet your greatest nemesis. :D

I can think of no reason at all why Yar and Pulaski were not included in this set. They were main characters in the series in which they appeared, essential to several stories therein. Certainly the price should have accommodated them, though I don’t think it’s as extortionate as some others seem to. The relevant torso prints are in production for this set so it would only have required two face prints and two hair moulds, both of which I can imagine would have been more than acceptably accounted for with existing elements (suggestions in appropriate colours would be very much appreciated, same goes for face prints). If TLG is so cheap that they can’t even manage that, they’ve got problems ahead of them as far as many customers’ spending is concerned. Q should have been included in my opinion in either his trial robes or possibly his mock Starfleet uniform (a lesser preference but cheaper and lazier for them to achieve), as the principle foil to the crew of the Enterprise-D, present in Encounter at Farpoint, All Good Things… and many episodes in between. Of course, fans will always ask for more, but Yar, Pulaski and Q would have been enough to round out the selection properly for me and it’s a shame they weren’t included.

@ACubeInABox said:
"Shut up, Wesley!"

You beat me to it!!

@CCC said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
"The two red ones are the same as each other, but the three yellow torsos are different. Worf’s has his baldric printed on it, and Data’s has differently-colored hands.

The TOS uniforms are more gendered than the TNG ones, so I wouldn’t expect Uhura’s and Scott’s torsos to be the same.
"

I know Worf's has print across it, that is why I said TWO yellow ones and not three. Personally, I don't consider switching the hands makes the torso different. It may have a different part code once assembled, but the print is exactly the same. And that was my point, the prints are all the same, just different colours.

If they do the original series, I'd imagine they would use the same torso for male and female as it means they don't have to print skin colours on the torsos for the more open neckline. The feminine outfit would probably differ in the legs with print for the dress rather than trousers.
"

I don’t see them going to those lengths just to avoid having to come up with a different torso graphic or two.

Moreover, my greater point was that contrary to what you said about a minifigure series being boring because it would just be variations of the same uniform in three different colors, such a series wouldn’t have to be that at all. I was pointing out that a) there’s a ton of variation between uniforms of different eras, and even a fair amount within each era, and b) whoever said a minifigure series would just be main characters in Starfleet uniforms? If anything, that’s where I’d expect fewer Starfleet uniforms (even for Starfleet MCs we nearly always see in uniform) and more alternate looks. Andrusi provides two possible lists of examples above, both just from TNG alone, and both around a common theme. Many, many, *many* more rosters are possible.

I don’t profess to know exactly what else they may or may not have planned for this theme. I will just say that we can surely expect a $400 set from a major IP to still be active nine or ten months after launch, which means they’ll still have an active Star Trek license in September of next year, when the franchise turns 60. I can’t help but think they’re going to do *something* else to mark the anniversary, as long as they already have some Trek anyway.

@PurpleDave said:
" @CapnRex101 said:
"With regard to interior, which a few people have mentioned, how could there realistically be space for any minifigure-scale interior? The saucer on the Enterprise-D is pretty thin and the model would need to be either absurdly large or the saucer completely out of proportion to accommodate an interior."

Possibly, right in the center, where it’s thickest, you might be able to fit a section of Jeffries Tube to have a single minifig crawling through.

@Blondie_Wan:
I mean…yeah, but look at stuff like TLM/TLBM/TLNM CMFs, where each of the five waves had a distinct set of core characters represented. You could do that with just the Captains, and that’d chew up most of the series. To do the full main cast of every show like that, you’d need more than 60 minifigs just to fit everyone in. It would be much easier to pull off a 16-count series with one of each main cast from a particular show, and some supporting characters to fill out the roster, and then just do the same for at least the live-action shows through Enterprise. That is, assuming you can come up with alternate outfits for each main cast."

Well, of course! I wasn’t arguing that they would do CMFs any particular way; I was just pointing out the limitations CCC is seeing aren’t really there. The field is wide open, should they wish to go that way.

@Andrusi said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
"Moreover, I don’t think a collectible minifigure series need be limited to just main characters from one particular iteration of the franchise. It could be a mix of distinctive variants of main characters along with guest characters from a single episode or movie - say, “The City on the Edge of Forever” 1930s Kirk, Edith Keeler, Dixon Hill Picard, Captain Dathon, “Our Man Bashir” 1960s Elim Garak, Dr. Gillian Taylor, the Ilia probe, Niners baseball uniform Sisko, Captain Proton Tom Paris, Mistress of the Winter Constellations Tendi, Protostar-class training hologram Janeway, Kasidy Yates, “The Visitor” alternate future Jake Sisko, Eline, Gul Madred, and the “Arena” Gorn captain, for example. There’s, like, literally hundreds - perhaps thousands - of characters they could do.

Would they? I don’t pretend to know… but I will just note that the Dungeons & Dragons stuff happened for D&D’s 50th anniversary. Star Trek may not be as big as Star Wars, but I think it’s likely bigger than D&D, and it happens to have its 60th anniversary next year."

Honestly, I think a TNG-specific CMF would be entirely doable. Lemme try:

1. Q (judge's robes)
2. Gowron
3. Commander Sela
4. Hugh
5. Lwaxana Troi
6. Alexander Rozhenko
7. Keiko O'Brien
8. Lore
9. DaiMon Bok
10. Gul Macet
11. Dathon
12. Admiral Nechayev

There, that's twelve TNG characters of significance who don't wear the same uniforms as anyone in 10356. And that's not even using any alternate versions of characters. Here's a series that's *only* those:

1. Locutus
2. Picard as Dixon Hill
3. Cadet uniform Wesley Crusher
4. Sheriff Worf
5. Data as Frank Hollander
6. Worf as Will Scarlet
7. Geordi as Alan-a-Dale
8. Data as Jaden
9. Malcorian Riker
10. Captain Beverly Picard
11. 1893 Guinan
12. Troi as Major Rakal

You'd have even more options if you allowed "post-TNG TNG" characters and variants, like the Borg Queen or Traveler Wesley. And while I've been avoiding standard Starfleet uniforms because that's kind of the point of the exercise, certain fans would be very happy if you slipped in a few characters in the S1/S2 uniforms (probably Tasha Yar and Dr. Pulaski for gold and blue, not sure offhand who I'd suggest for red)."
Encounter at Farpoint Miles O'Brien

@Chemistry2101 said:
"I can think of no reason at all why Yar and Pulaski were not included in this set. They were main characters in the series in which they appeared, essential to several stories therein."

Denise Crosby asked to be let out of her contract precisely because Yar was _not_ being utilized as anything more than a piece of Bridge furniture. Her best storylines all followed Skin of Evil. Arguably, dying was the most interesting thing her character even did in the first season, precisely because it’s something that no other main cast had done in a Trek series up to that point (and fair few have even done to this day), without having it rolled back by the end of the episode. Then, while Pulaski did fill the same role Crusher had in the previous and all subsequent seasons, the actress was only given Guest Star credit following the end of the opening main credits.

I find it interesting how many acknowledged non-fans of Star Trek have so much to say about a Star Trek set and can speak so knowledgeable on the current value and appreciation of the IP. The sheer volume of backlog as well as ongoing projects would seem to dwarf Star Wars.

I like it....from most angles. I don't love the price but I guess I've just started to accept that this is now the reality of LEGO. For this size/price, I would have preferred a UCS style play set like the Razor Crest 75331. Including all the main players doesn't give me hope for more sets but I would love both medium scale starships as well standard minifig type sets. I would also buy a complete CMF line Day 1. :o)

@PurpleDave said:
" @Chemistry2101 said:
"I can think of no reason at all why Yar and Pulaski were not included in this set. They were main characters in the series in which they appeared, essential to several stories therein."

Denise Crosby asked to be let out of her contract precisely because Yar was _not_ being utilized as anything more than a piece of Bridge furniture. Her best storylines all followed Skin of Evil. Arguably, dying was the most interesting thing her character even did in the first season, precisely because it’s something that no other main cast had done in a Trek series up to that point (and fair few have even done to this day), without having it rolled back by the end of the episode. Then, while Pulaski did fill the same role Crusher had in the previous and all subsequent seasons, the actress was only given Guest Star credit following the end of the opening main credits."

Yar's character never had the opportunity to develop great depth as it was such a short run and early on. Her odd return later on didn't work for me either.

Diana Muldaur (Pulaski) is contractually required to fall down an elevator shaft for all roles.

as both an ST and a Lego fan - easy pass; flat, rectangular pieces do no graceful curves make - I honestly thought the leaked pics were obvious fakes yet here we are, a set which looks bland, forced and weirdly generic
and don’t get me started on that ‘trombone’

This is one of those sets that I'm far more interested in the minifigs than the building part. I would love to buy it, but I just have no space to display it... :(

I'm not a Star Trek fan. :)

Yes if it was $300, probably if it was $350 at $400 probably not. Worf doesn't look right to me, reminds me of The Thing from Fantastic Four, which I didn't buy because the Thing wasn't very good.

How do we know that the android minifigure is not Lore? (Or should I say “isn’t Lore”?)

@Librarian1976 said:
"How do we know that the android minifigure is not Lore? (Or should I say “isn’t Lore”?)"

And how do we know that the bearded human isn't Thomas Riker?

Not a Star Trek fan but even if I was I would give it a miss. At that price it should all be printed. Competition in the form of Lumibricks doesn't have stickers at all and includes lighting in all their kits as standard.

No competition builds like Lego though but it's still very good. And imagine in years to come how much Lumibricks and other companies will grow.

I would say Lego has the ultimate advantage of having a stranglehold over licenses left right and centre. If the other companies start acquiring licenses then Lego should be worried.

I been a Lego lover for many years and most of my life to be honest but last few years I've brought sets from other brands as they are cheaper and I just wanted different things to build and in a way the fact that it's not Lego makes me intrigued to expand beyond the TLC products

Loved it. I'ld love to have it. If I can spare $400, I'll definetly get it.

Absolutely yes. I love it.

A $300 set with stickers priced at $400.
A GWP only available for 4 days.
Zrath on the LEGO website, shaking his head.

@Blondie_Wan said:
"Well, of course! I wasn’t arguing that they would do CMFs any particular way; I was just pointing out the limitations CCC is seeing aren’t really there. The field is wide open, should they wish to go that way."

But that’s the thing. It really isn’t. I don’t see them doing an entire wave with just obscure background characters. It’s the main characters that are going to help sell the series. If you look at any licensed CMF series (except maybe Marvel), they clearly understand this because they always made sure the main characters were present. Hardcore fans may look at this and hope for a full wave of the most obscure one-shot characters, but the casual fans who will need to make up the bulk of sales for a successful CMF series just want a cheap way to get their favorite regulars.

Looks magnificent and the minifigs are great but there's far too many stickers for a set of that price, which is out of my single-set budget anyway. If it was £100 cheaper? Maybe. And that 4-day-only window for the GWP seems a rather cynical ploy.

Looks as bad as expected. Will get the minifigs though.

I'm really unsure whether I'm up for an expensive octagon fight.

The figs look pretty darn nice, but there's nowhere for them to go. Data's eyes stink. The set is quite nice overall. However, the sharp-angled second layer looks like a first draft, and the price is at ludicrous speed.

The GWP is good, and will undoubtedly make a Day 1 worth it in the long run. Ugh.

Well, guess I better put on my budgie smuggler and pop in a teeth guard.

@TheOtherMike said:
"I'd need to see more of the BlueBrixx version to make a better comparison, but I tend to agree that Lego's is better, although both have their faults."
Indeed, the BlueBrixx version is far from perfect either.
What made me say that I prefer it over the LEGO one is, for one, the all prints approach. Also I think the side profile looks better, as do the proportions of the warp engines and engineering section. The front end of the warp engines look better to me on the LEGO version, but BlueBrixx was hampered in that regard because they could not develop new moulds like the ones LEGO did for the ramscoops/Bussard collectors (yes, I'm a Trek nerd too).
The shaping and details of the top side of the saucer section to me looks better on the LEGO version except for the tan pieces and the missing window prints. The bottom of the saucer I don't like on either version. And the deflector dish isn't ideal on both either. While those printed window pieces look nice, the proportions don't do it for me as they make the entire assembly look too huge and bloated, and the actual deflector dish itself is missing completely (the copper coloured insert).

@SweSarah said:
"Are these hugely expensive sets this past 6 months because of the tariffs? Are they increasing the prices everywhere in the world to compensate for the higher cost to sell in the US? This set costs 4,800 SEK in Sweden.... Which is like 500 USD... for 3,600 pieces. OUCH."

Swedes are rich, you can easily afford it so what's the problem ?

@AustinPowers said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
"I'd need to see more of the BlueBrixx version to make a better comparison, but I tend to agree that Lego's is better, although both have their faults."
Indeed, the BlueBrixx version is far from perfect either.
What made me say that I prefer it over the LEGO one is, for one, the all prints approach. Also I think the side profile looks better, as do the proportions of the warp engines and engineering section. The front end of the warp engines look better to me on the LEGO version, but BlueBrixx was hampered in that regard because they could not develop new moulds like the ones LEGO did for the ramscoops/Bussard collectors (yes, I'm a Trek nerd too).
The shaping and details of the top side of the saucer section to me looks better on the LEGO version except for the tan pieces and the missing window prints. The bottom of the saucer I don't like on either version. And the deflector dish isn't ideal on both either. While those printed window pieces look nice, the proportions don't do it for me as they make the entire assembly look too huge and bloated, and the actual deflector dish itself is missing completely (the copper coloured insert). "

I think we both know that when it come to LEGO our opinions differ vastly. And again, here, how you can even think that the Bluebrixx version is equal to or better than the LEGO version is beyond me. From design perspective (smoothness, accuracy, colours, building techniques,...) literally everything in the LEGO version is vastly superior. Even the stand is vastly superior.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
"Well, of course! I wasn’t arguing that they would do CMFs any particular way; I was just pointing out the limitations CCC is seeing aren’t really there. The field is wide open, should they wish to go that way."

But that’s the thing. It really isn’t. I don’t see them doing an entire wave with just obscure background characters. It’s the main characters that are going to help sell the series. If you look at any licensed CMF series (except maybe Marvel), they clearly understand this because they always made sure the main characters were present. Hardcore fans may look at this and hope for a full wave of the most obscure one-shot characters, but the casual fans who will need to make up the bulk of sales for a successful CMF series just want a cheap way to get their favorite regulars."

I think you’re misunderstanding me. Of course I’m not arguing that they’d do a whole wave consisting solely of obscure background characters; at the same time, I don’t think it’s going to consist entirely of names-in-the-opening-titles main characters in the same standard uniforms they spend upwards of 90% of their screen time in. CCC seemed to think I was suggesting a wave of, say, the core TOS crew all in their standard looks, or the core TNG crew all in standard looks (i.e., largely the same ones included with the Enterprise-D), or the core DS9 characters in their standard looks, etc., and I’m saying I think it’d be more like a mix of main characters *in different, unique looks that aren’t necessarily going to be in larger sets*, plus supporting characters, plus notable minor or background characters. My listing some of the choices was merely to illustrate that there’s more than a tiny handful of people in Trek, and that there’s a vast range of possible choices. Pointing out there are hundreds or thousands of characters, and different looks for many of those characters, throughout the entirety of Star Trek is not the same thing as saying I think they’re actually going to release each and every single one of them across the next three hundred minifigures series released over the course of the next century.

@Zrath said:
"A $300 set with stickers priced at $400.
A GWP only available for 4 days.
Zrath on the LEGO website, shaking his head."

It has printed pieces too.

@CapnRex101 said:
" With regard to interior, which a few people have mentioned, how could there realistically be space for any minifigure-scale interior? The saucer on the Enterprise-D is pretty thin and the model would need to be either absurdly large or the saucer completely out of proportion to accommodate an interior."

Looking at cross-sections of this ship in the Star Trek Next Generation Technical Journal, it seems this is a misconception: the dish is thin but only on the outer outside; it becomes pretty bulky, pretty fast, going to the center. In that regards it seems the LEGO rendition feels incorrect.

@yellowcastle said:
"I find it interesting how many acknowledged non-fans of Star Trek have so much to say about a Star Trek set and can speak so knowledgeable on the current value and appreciation of the IP. The sheer volume of backlog as well as ongoing projects would seem to dwarf Star Wars.

I like it....from most angles. I don't love the price but I guess I've just started to accept that this is now the reality of LEGO. For this size/price, I would have preferred a UCS style play set like the Razor Crest 75331. Including all the main players doesn't give me hope for more sets but I would love both medium scale starships as well standard minifig type sets. I would also buy a complete CMF line Day 1. :o)"

Remember, everyone on the internet is an expert with 30 to 90 seconds of research!

@SweSarah said:
"Are these hugely expensive sets this past 6 months because of the tariffs? Are they increasing the prices everywhere in the world to compensate for the higher cost to sell in the US? This set costs 4,800 SEK in Sweden.... Which is like 500 USD... for 3,600 pieces. OUCH."
I suspect a couple of reasons for LEGO’s recent very high prices. First is that LEGO is expanding its production facilities in various locations. Building factories, moving production to new locations and running those facilities is very capital intensive. The money has to come from somewhere. Second, I suspect that LEGO has adopted a new pricing policy of RRPs about 20% to 30% higher than it would have been previously in the knowledge that Amazon and other retailers are likely going to discount by that amount eventually anyway. The counter to the latter for AFOLs is to wait for deals. That’s what I’m doing. The sets I’m after have already come down in price but I reckon they’ll come down even further especially after Christmas and into January when retailers want to make room for LEGO’s new releases.

@MrBedhead said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
"I'd need to see more of the BlueBrixx version to make a better comparison, but I tend to agree that Lego's is better, although both have their faults."
Indeed, the BlueBrixx version is far from perfect either.
What made me say that I prefer it over the LEGO one is, for one, the all prints approach. Also I think the side profile looks better, as do the proportions of the warp engines and engineering section. The front end of the warp engines look better to me on the LEGO version, but BlueBrixx was hampered in that regard because they could not develop new moulds like the ones LEGO did for the ramscoops/Bussard collectors (yes, I'm a Trek nerd too).
The shaping and details of the top side of the saucer section to me looks better on the LEGO version except for the tan pieces and the missing window prints. The bottom of the saucer I don't like on either version. And the deflector dish isn't ideal on both either. While those printed window pieces look nice, the proportions don't do it for me as they make the entire assembly look too huge and bloated, and the actual deflector dish itself is missing completely (the copper coloured insert). "

I think we both know that when it come to LEGO our opinions differ vastly. And again, here, how you can even think that the Bluebrixx version is equal to or better than the LEGO version is beyond me. From design perspective (smoothness, accuracy, colours, building techniques,...) literally everything in the LEGO version is vastly superior. Even the stand is vastly superior."
Again, two people, two opinions. You have yours, I have mine. And I think I gave quite detailed reasons above for which positive and negate aspects I see on both.
Neither are perfect, and maybe a mash-up of the two would be closer to perfection. But then again, like others have said, the Galaxy class (though I love it) is maybe one of the worst possible designs for a rendition in bricks. A friend of mine and myself have built various MOCs of it over the years, and none was really perfect.
At least I have built the BlueBrixx version, so I can say that I speak from experience when talking about its qualities and flaws.
Maybe on discount I will someday buy the LEGO version as well, and maybe then I will attempt the abovementioned mash-up. We'll see.

Possible ideas I might try:
- combine the rear of the nacelles from the BB version and the printed pennants with the front end of the TLG version
- use the TLG saucer, replace the tan pieces and integrate (some of) the printed pieces from the BB version
- combine the best of both engineering sections and necks/deflector dish assemblies
- design a new stand (because I don't like either version tbh
- make a combined dedication plaque or simply use both separately

By the way, I just found this interesting comparison article:

https://www.stonewars.de/news/lego-icons-enterprise-d-10356/

I watched the video, didn't see the post on here until after it had happened. Nice that they are having a sweepstakes to win a signed set. Would have been nicer if it was available for everyone to enter. Apparently Lego fans don't exist outside of North America and some parts of Europe :/

@Squidy74H said:
"I watched the video, didn't see the post on here until after it had happened. Nice that they are having a sweepstakes to win a signed set. Would have been nicer if it was available for everyone to enter. Apparently Lego fans don't exist outside of North America and some parts of Europe :/"

Even though I *do* live in North America, that stinks.

@AustinPowers said:
" @rebelpilotJYZ said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
" @Bobert2009 said:
" @wizpip said:
"For those of you worried it's not the A, not a bridge set, etc... I'm sure those will come, especially if this sells well."

Will it though? The Indiana Jones line sold well and that has yet to be followed up."

Old licenses can do well as one-off sets, but to be whole, ongoing themes, they want ongoing media support. The Indiana Jones theme came to life alongside the two most recent movies, but there was over a decade between them, mostly with no indication the fourth movie would be followed up by a fifth, and right now there’s no indication of any more Indy productions in the future. Star Trek, OTOH, has never gone away for more than five years or so at most, and there have been new screen releases (movie, television, whatever) every year since 2016; there’s a currently-running TV show whose endpoint has been announced but which still has two seasons left to go, which should run it into 2027; another show is waiting to make its debut in January, and similarly has (at least) two seasons ahead of it, that should likewise take it to at least ‘27.

And for back catalog, there is simply much much more to make sets of with Star Trek than with Indy. Putting aside books and comics and videogames and whatnot, the Indiana Jones franchise is five movies and a short TV series, with no concrete plans for anything more beyond the 40 to 45 hours of screen time of material that now exists. Star Trek currently consists of 11 TV series (with a 12th arriving in a little over two months), 13 theatrically-released features plus a direct-to-streaming one, and a handful of shorts; there are over 900 discrete installments (episodes, movies, and shorts) totalling over 600 hours of screen time.

That’s no guarantee, of course; Star Trek has never been quite the same merchandising goldmine Star Wars has, despite the most fervent wishes of the Paramount / CBS / Viacom corporate empire. But there’s still a lot of potential there with Star Trek. I love Indiana Jones as well, and there are specific things from that franchise I’ve wanted sets of for years, but I see a lot more possibilities for an ongoing theme with Trek.

(Granted, I said the same about Doctor Who, and that license never made it beyond the Ideas set and two LEGO Dimensions packs, so what do I know…)"

Problem for ST is you will be hard pressed to find fans under 40. Unlike SW, where it took until after ROTS for content to really come out, ST was already filled with more movies and TV shows. So basically any1 can catch up with SW. 6 movies in 30 years anyone can do. You didn't even need to be a fan. This is why SW till this day does well with kids and lego has no problem releasing smaller kids alongside adult priced sets. Helps more SW ships scales well with lego minifigures"
This is one argument that I never understood. Since when has Star Wars been interesting for kids?
Sure, most of the plots in Star Wars are beyond stupid, which many kids seem to love, while Star Trek is intelligent (except most of the modern stuff) and therefore more interesting for adults, but overall I have never met a kid that was interested in either Star Trek or Star Wars. "
The fumes of the knock off brands you buy must be getting to you. It’s the only explanation for a comment like this.

@RoboticJesus said:
" @SithLord196 said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"The strange feeling, at least if you're from Germany, is that it's all been done before, except for the minifigs, and better and cheaper as well. Even if LEGO now do rehashes of all the Star Trek sets BlueBrixx offered over the years, it still wouldn't be anything new.
Maybe if they do a line of "set" sets, like the bridge(s) or other interior spaces, which BlueBrixx never got around to, but if they only do ships and accessories, well, we've already had plenty of those. "

At this point I'm pretty sure that Brickset simply isn't a website for you. All I ever see you post are complaints about Lego and how some other clone brand supposedly made a better set.

If you really despise Lego that much, why are you posting on a Lego fan site?"

Unfortunately, it isn't just them, it's the majority of commenters here. Even though I'm somewhat of a cynic by nature if I ever want to feel like the most optimistic person in the world I just hop into the comments here to wade amongst the habitual complainers. "

I can't disagree there. I'm pretty cynical by nature myself, but the comment section on here recently has been just been miserable.

The discourse around Lego pricing in particular has become absolutely absurd with some of the ridiculous comments made about it.

Is the Picard head the same the Gandalf head? After all they are all played by the same actor.

I actually prefer the shuttle GWP over the main Enterprise set!

@monkyby87 said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @rebelpilotJYZ said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
" @Bobert2009 said:
" @wizpip said:
"For those of you worried it's not the A, not a bridge set, etc... I'm sure those will come, especially if this sells well."

Will it though? The Indiana Jones line sold well and that has yet to be followed up."

Old licenses can do well as one-off sets, but to be whole, ongoing themes, they want ongoing media support. The Indiana Jones theme came to life alongside the two most recent movies, but there was over a decade between them, mostly with no indication the fourth movie would be followed up by a fifth, and right now there’s no indication of any more Indy productions in the future. Star Trek, OTOH, has never gone away for more than five years or so at most, and there have been new screen releases (movie, television, whatever) every year since 2016; there’s a currently-running TV show whose endpoint has been announced but which still has two seasons left to go, which should run it into 2027; another show is waiting to make its debut in January, and similarly has (at least) two seasons ahead of it, that should likewise take it to at least ‘27.

And for back catalog, there is simply much much more to make sets of with Star Trek than with Indy. Putting aside books and comics and videogames and whatnot, the Indiana Jones franchise is five movies and a short TV series, with no concrete plans for anything more beyond the 40 to 45 hours of screen time of material that now exists. Star Trek currently consists of 11 TV series (with a 12th arriving in a little over two months), 13 theatrically-released features plus a direct-to-streaming one, and a handful of shorts; there are over 900 discrete installments (episodes, movies, and shorts) totalling over 600 hours of screen time.

That’s no guarantee, of course; Star Trek has never been quite the same merchandising goldmine Star Wars has, despite the most fervent wishes of the Paramount / CBS / Viacom corporate empire. But there’s still a lot of potential there with Star Trek. I love Indiana Jones as well, and there are specific things from that franchise I’ve wanted sets of for years, but I see a lot more possibilities for an ongoing theme with Trek.

(Granted, I said the same about Doctor Who, and that license never made it beyond the Ideas set and two LEGO Dimensions packs, so what do I know…)"

Problem for ST is you will be hard pressed to find fans under 40. Unlike SW, where it took until after ROTS for content to really come out, ST was already filled with more movies and TV shows. So basically any1 can catch up with SW. 6 movies in 30 years anyone can do. You didn't even need to be a fan. This is why SW till this day does well with kids and lego has no problem releasing smaller kids alongside adult priced sets. Helps more SW ships scales well with lego minifigures"
This is one argument that I never understood. Since when has Star Wars been interesting for kids?
Sure, most of the plots in Star Wars are beyond stupid, which many kids seem to love, while Star Trek is intelligent (except most of the modern stuff) and therefore more interesting for adults, but overall I have never met a kid that was interested in either Star Trek or Star Wars. "
The fumes of the knock off brands you buy must be getting to you. It’s the only explanation for a comment like this.
"

The funny thing is I, and I suspect many others, were about 10 when Star Trek TNG began airing on the BBC ??

@MegaBlocks said:
"Is the Picard head the same the Gandalf head? After all they are all played by the same actor."

Um…the fact that you live in the UK makes the fact that you can’t tell two old, white, British dudes apart even more awkward.

@yellowcastle said:
"I find it interesting how many acknowledged non-fans of Star Trek have so much to say about a Star Trek set and can speak so knowledgeable on the current value and appreciation of the IP. The sheer volume of backlog as well as ongoing projects would seem to dwarf Star Wars."

My favorite complaint is the one about it just being a 'giant pile of gray bricks'. Set 910029
Mountain Fortress looks like a giant mess of gray bricks to me too, but commenters on here absolutely loved that set.

I actually think both sets are pretty cool, I just find the 'giant pile of gray bricks' criticism to be unfair when it can be applied to some sets that are considered great by people that don't like Star Trek or Star Wars.

@yellowcastle said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @MegaBlocks said:
"Is the Picard head the same the Gandalf head? After all they are all played by the same actor."

Um…the fact that you live in the UK makes the fact that you can’t tell two old, white, British dudes apart even more awkward."

I'm assuming the original post was tongue in cheek.

Clearly Patrick Stewart and Richard Harris are different people."

Ummm…

I am a life-long Trek fan and TNG was my entry to the franchise, so this is - or should be - a dream come true. Im am really, really, really quite tempted by this.

But, as with my other passion, the LotR: First of all as a family father it's really tough for me to justify anything that costs 400€, when the kids need braces, new clothes now and then...

And secondly: Space is an issue (*wink wink*) in that I don't have a house the size of the Alpha quadrant. Therefore my two questions always have to be: Can I afford this? Where the heck would I put this?

Because of that, neither Rivendell nor Barad-Dur nor the Shire have found their way into my house. And I am afraid I may have to pass on this one too.

As always: I'd love a series of some sets of varying sizes and price points. I bought many of the smaller LotR sets in the olden days. If LEGO would do a proper Star Trek wave of sets. If things like that shuttle pod would be available as regular retail sets, I'd probably get it in a heartbeat.

It's interesting comparing the reaction here to a reaction by someone who's a Trekkie first and a Lego buff second: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZrDxZGe4M4

@Blondie_Wan said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Blondie_Wan said:
"Well, of course! I wasn’t arguing that they would do CMFs any particular way; I was just pointing out the limitations CCC is seeing aren’t really there. The field is wide open, should they wish to go that way."

But that’s the thing. It really isn’t. I don’t see them doing an entire wave with just obscure background characters. It’s the main characters that are going to help sell the series. If you look at any licensed CMF series (except maybe Marvel), they clearly understand this because they always made sure the main characters were present. Hardcore fans may look at this and hope for a full wave of the most obscure one-shot characters, but the casual fans who will need to make up the bulk of sales for a successful CMF series just want a cheap way to get their favorite regulars."

I think you’re misunderstanding me. Of course I’m not arguing that they’d do a whole wave consisting solely of obscure background characters; at the same time, I don’t think it’s going to consist entirely of names-in-the-opening-titles main characters in the same standard uniforms they spend upwards of 90% of their screen time in. CCC seemed to think I was suggesting a wave of, say, the core TOS crew all in their standard looks, or the core TNG crew all in standard looks (i.e., largely the same ones included with the Enterprise-D), or the core DS9 characters in their standard looks, etc., and I’m saying I think it’d be more like a mix of main characters *in different, unique looks that aren’t necessarily going to be in larger sets*, plus supporting characters, plus notable minor or background characters. My listing some of the choices was merely to illustrate that there’s more than a tiny handful of people in Trek, and that there’s a vast range of possible choices. Pointing out there are hundreds or thousands of characters, and different looks for many of those characters, throughout the entirety of Star Trek is not the same thing as saying I think they’re actually going to release each and every single one of them across the next three hundred minifigures series released over the course of the next century."

I have no dog in this race. I'm not a fan of Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica or most other space-based sci-fi franchises you'd care to mention. I'm happy this stuff exists for the fans, but the only real stake I have in this is that it - as it has - opens the doors for products for OTHER unspeakable nerds. This is how we ended up with highly niche-CMFs for Marvel, Batman, Marvel, Batman, Dungeons and Dragons, and of course the Sportsball-stuff. This means that - yeah, I can totally see a Star Trek CMF popping up in the near future, but at best it means I might get some nice new moulded pieces for my own sinister designs, and for the rest, I'll just feel like an outside looking in (as I'm certain many people will have felt like, looking in on the Marvel-series for instance). It's okay. It's just not my turn right now.

Now, just in case anyone read the line about the sportsball-stuff, and is now wiping the furious spittle from their screen to inform me on how loving sportsball means they CANNOT POSSIBLY be a nerd, I've got some terrible news for you: the fact that you read it on the internet, on a highly-specialised forum for fans of Lego, in an article about a Star Trek set, really means you need to stop lying to yourself and embrace who you truly are, you unspeakable nerd.

One of us, one of us.

@jmupton2000 said:
"I actually prefer the shuttle GWP over the main Enterprise set!"

I don't *prefer* it, but if it were possible to get it by itself I would. It's hard to justify spendiing so much on a large, detailed but still approximate version of a ship I never really loved, but I was fond of Ro and the shuttle looks quite good. My affection for TNG was based on the writing and the acting, not the shape of the ship (which always looked slightly wrong to me). Come to that, so was my love for TOS, for which I was--yes, AustinPowers--an actual child. I also enjoyed SW, though I'm not as big a fan of that license as of ST, but it's worth noting that I've never bought a SW UCS model, and I'm not thrilled by the idea of having to buy one (especially the "wrong one") to get ST minifigures, even though I do like the minifigure rendition of several of my favorite characters.

I'd like to see a review of the main set early enough to help me decide whether or not to get it with the GWP, but I suspect time will not allow that. Such is life.

Edited to add: Happy to see I was wrong! Thank you, Brickset!!

This theme just went cloak...totally invisible to me. I was looking forward to a Star Trek theme sets, but to introduce it at $400? Is this it? One and done, or will the whole line be nothing but $400 ships targeted to adults? I'd have much rather seen a bridge or transport room to start...then hit us with the big notes, the big ships. So I can only assume this is the plan, big Enterprises and the entire cast of mini figures in one release...pay up! Abject disappointment, not necessarily with the model, just the business model

@VCrux said:"Now, just in case anyone read the line about the sportsball-stuff, and is now wiping the furious spittle from their screen to inform me on how loving sportsball means they CANNOT POSSIBLY be a nerd, I've got some terrible news for you: the fact that you read it on the internet, on a highly-specialised forum for fans of Lego, in an article about a Star Trek set, really means you need to stop lying to yourself and embrace who you truly are, you unspeakable nerd."

Besides, is wearing jerseys everywhere really all that different from cosplay? *Really?*

Not to belabor the point regarding a potential Star Trek CMF series, but the Kre-O CMF-equivalent for Star Trek was franchise-wide and included a mix of main characters, single-appearance characters, and generic "army builders."

@TheOtherMike said:
" @VCrux said:"Now, just in case anyone read the line about the sportsball-stuff, and is now wiping the furious spittle from their screen to inform me on how loving sportsball means they CANNOT POSSIBLY be a nerd, I've got some terrible news for you: the fact that you read it on the internet, on a highly-specialised forum for fans of Lego, in an article about a Star Trek set, really means you need to stop lying to yourself and embrace who you truly are, you unspeakable nerd."

Besides, is wearing jerseys everywhere really all that different from cosplay? *Really?*"

Well, women who are fans of men's sports wear babydoll jerseys that hug their curves and bare their midriffs. And men who can barely stand up wear jerseys that hug their curves and bare their midriffs, so no. Not different at all.

I can't wait to **boldy** buy this on Black Friday's sale get my GWP and wait for the replacement sticker to be sent (upon request only I assume once available). Sigh. Many of you won't appreciate my easter egg reference until later.

I need to show this to my dad. He's a Star Trek Fanatic!

@TheOtherMike said:
" @VCrux said:"Now, just in case anyone read the line about the sportsball-stuff, and is now wiping the furious spittle from their screen to inform me on how loving sportsball means they CANNOT POSSIBLY be a nerd, I've got some terrible news for you: the fact that you read it on the internet, on a highly-specialised forum for fans of Lego, in an article about a Star Trek set, really means you need to stop lying to yourself and embrace who you truly are, you unspeakable nerd."

Besides, is wearing jerseys everywhere really all that different from cosplay? *Really?*"

Here's a thought:

Fantasy Football and Dungeons & Dragons...

...are basically the same thing.

Discuss! ;)

@560heliport said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @VCrux said:"Now, just in case anyone read the line about the sportsball-stuff, and is now wiping the furious spittle from their screen to inform me on how loving sportsball means they CANNOT POSSIBLY be a nerd, I've got some terrible news for you: the fact that you read it on the internet, on a highly-specialised forum for fans of Lego, in an article about a Star Trek set, really means you need to stop lying to yourself and embrace who you truly are, you unspeakable nerd."

Besides, is wearing jerseys everywhere really all that different from cosplay? *Really?*"

Here's a thought:

Fantasy Football and Dungeons & Dragons...

...are basically the same thing.

Discuss! ;)"

Not sure I'd agree. After all, in D&D, you decide what your character's stats and abilities are, and what they do. From what I know of fantasy football, you go with existing stats, and go by what they've done. But you have reminded me of an Onion article I love: https://theonion.com/walking-sports-database-scorns-walking-sci-fi-database-1819566197/

@TheOtherMike said:
" @560heliport said:
" @TheOtherMike said:
" @VCrux said:"Now, just in case anyone read the line about the sportsball-stuff, and is now wiping the furious spittle from their screen to inform me on how loving sportsball means they CANNOT POSSIBLY be a nerd, I've got some terrible news for you: the fact that you read it on the internet, on a highly-specialised forum for fans of Lego, in an article about a Star Trek set, really means you need to stop lying to yourself and embrace who you truly are, you unspeakable nerd."

Besides, is wearing jerseys everywhere really all that different from cosplay? *Really?*"

Here's a thought:

Fantasy Football and Dungeons & Dragons...

...are basically the same thing.

Discuss! ;)"

Not sure I'd agree. After all, in D&D, you decide what your character's stats and abilities are, and what they do. From what I know of fantasy football, you go with existing stats, and go by what they've done. But you have reminded me of an Onion article I love: https://theonion.com/walking-sports-database-scorns-walking-sci-fi-database-1819566197/"

In D&D, the dice determine your character's stats. In fantasy football, the real players' stats determine how your team performs. In both, you create an imaginary entity, and pit it against an opponent.

My point is mainly that the two are quite similar, and sports fans who call others nerds for their hobby are just as geeky about THEIR interest.

@560heliport said:
"In D&D, the dice determine your character's stats."

That's old school, and invites cheating (sometimes by the player, and sometimes by the DM). In sanctioned tournament play, you have to allocate points, so everyone can tell if you padded your numbers.

@PurpleDave said:
" @560heliport said:
"In D&D, the dice determine your character's stats."

That's old school, and invites cheating (sometimes by the player, and sometimes by the DM). In sanctioned tournament play, you have to allocate points, so everyone can tell if you padded your numbers."

Well, I don't play, but my best friends do. And we're old, so...
I still say D&D and FF are quite similar.