Second 2025 Ideas results announced!

@watcher21 said:
"So after the "no modulair rule" they pick 3 building.
Love The Old Man and the Sea and waiting in despair to see how they change it.
Amsterdam only needs some fatbikers and a few drunk tourist"

I thought the “no modular rule” was for BLD program not Ideas.

Old man and the sea is a great model - interested to see the final.

The one added to the parking lot is probably my favorite though

Curious to see what they do with The Old Man and the Sea. As for the other three not too excited about any of them. Actually I'm more intrigued about whether the Lunch Atop a Skyscraper makes it, the concept is pretty cool, I hope it makes it!

@Huw can we get an updated ideas backlog article, as all I can remember is that I'm still waiting for that X-Files set!

The Old Man and the Sea still looks pretty great, don't care much for the oither ones.

@Huw , maybe add a link to the article with all the submissions? Wasn't too hard to find this time, but still would be convenient. Or maybe a separate tag for each Ideas review?

And looking back at that complete selection, so many Studio Ghibli sets, which (predictably) all got rejected again :-(

THIRD TIME they pass on Gravity falls?
They really are stupid.

@SMC said:
"Fatigue best describes how I feel about this round.

Edward Scissorhands doesn't need a £300 set of a grey castle, two minifigures and some topiary would make a nice sensible £30 set.

I am sure Lego will do a good job with the Amsterdam Canal Houses but it doesn't seem fair that this design has beaten many other original sets that frankly look better.

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation seems like a nostalgia set too far. It might be a nice Christmas set but it's not as iconic as Home Alone was."

The Christmas Vacation set has the kind of house that is sorely lacking from LEGOs range.

But it sure feels like we should start buying less sets to use as display pieces and instead get the pieces to do models of buildings that are exactly to our liking.

As excited as I am, I’m surprised Christmas Vacation was chosen. I figured the movie was a little too adult for Lego. Interested to see how the final version looks.

Great MOC:s, kudos to the designers but these are not in my top 100 list of sets I would get if money wasn't an issue. They should split Ideas into two separate, one for only licensed sets and one for original ideas, this is just IP-copying at this point.

Interesting they have chosen a set in which the main character has been the subject of some slightly unsavoury allegations recently. For which I will stress he was cleared.
I like the Amsterdam houses, but won't be buying any of these.
Like others, I thought there was a modular rule, but that could well be BLDP only.

Amsterdam Canal Houses will certainly lose some of the aesthetics if they don't use the old-style windows. Is it wishful thinking that they will bring them back?

@BrudderandHisBricks said:
"As excited as I am, I’m surprised Christmas Vacation was chosen. I figured the movie was a little too adult for Lego. Interested to see how the final version looks."

Hence why the 18+ rating exists.

No Lego MCR?? :<

I adore Edward Scissorhands, but I have a strong hunch that this set will be outside of my budget.

Bummed that Gravity Falls didn't make the cut again.

I'll be excited to see how all of these turn out!

@easter_house said:
"Interesting they have chosen a set in which the main character has been the subject of some slightly unsavoury allegations recently. For which I will stress he was cleared.
I like the Amsterdam houses, but won't be buying any of these.
Like others, I thought there was a modular rule, but that could well be BLDP only."

Not in the UK he wasn’t. Still very much not cleared here. Still very much lost his case here.

And no, I won’t be buying the set, despite Edward Scissorhands being a favourite film when I was a kid. No more than I’ll be buying Ronaldo’s, or anything HP. Abusers don’t deserve my money.

Separate the art from the artist when the artist is still getting piles of money from the art seems to me more of an excuse for ignoring ethics than a high-minded artistic principle.

Christmas Vacation set is a day one buy for me! Edward Scissorhands will be interesting as well.

Nothing from this round I would buy, but back to being excited for the previous round! If Old Man and The Sea looks as good as it does here, that's a definite buy for me. Gorgeous set.

@Hiratha said:
" @easter_house said:
"Interesting they have chosen a set in which the main character has been the subject of some slightly unsavoury allegations recently. For which I will stress he was cleared.
I like the Amsterdam houses, but won't be buying any of these.
Like others, I thought there was a modular rule, but that could well be BLDP only."

Not in the UK he wasn’t. Still very much not cleared here. Still very much lost his case here.

And no, I won’t be buying the set, despite Edward Scissorhands being a favourite film when I was a kid. No more than I’ll be buying Ronaldo’s, or anything HP. Abusers don’t deserve my money.

Separate the art from the artist when the artist is still getting piles of money from the art seems to me more of an excuse for ignoring ethics than a high-minded artistic principle."

That is why I raised it. I am in the UK myself, and want to be clear that I am not hear cheering on the actor, or in fact deriding him. My comment was to make the point, proven by your response, that it could be a rather controversial selection.

I'm glad that none of them interests me...

@lordofdragonss said:
"THIRD TIME they pass on Gravity falls?
They really are stupid."

Disney not wanting to license it or Lego thinking the licensing cost was too high are probably why.

@GrizBe said:
" @Hiratha said:
"Not in the UK he wasn’t. Still very much not cleared here. Still very much lost his case here.."

Erm actually he was. The case he faced in the UK was against The Sun newspaper for defamation. I'll point out since The Sun has lost multiple court cases for false information against celebrities... The charges of abuse were never brought, or taken to court in the UK and as such he never faced them here. The case in America was a worldwide ruling, which again, found that it was Amber Heard that was the abuser who'd lied about literally everything. "

The case he faced in the USA - or rather, the case he *brought* - was also defamation, and has considerably less standing in the UK than the UK ruling does. USA rulings apply in USA courts, not “worldwide”.

@easter_house said:
" @Hiratha said:
" @easter_house said:
"Interesting they have chosen a set in which the main character has been the subject of some slightly unsavoury allegations recently. For which I will stress he was cleared.
I like the Amsterdam houses, but won't be buying any of these.
Like others, I thought there was a modular rule, but that could well be BLDP only."

Not in the UK he wasn’t. Still very much not cleared here. Still very much lost his case here.

And no, I won’t be buying the set, despite Edward Scissorhands being a favourite film when I was a kid. No more than I’ll be buying Ronaldo’s, or anything HP. Abusers don’t deserve my money.

Separate the art from the artist when the artist is still getting piles of money from the art seems to me more of an excuse for ignoring ethics than a high-minded artistic principle."

That is why I raised it. I am in the UK myself, and want to be clear that I am not hear cheering on the actor, or in fact deriding him. My comment was to make the point, proven by your response, that it could be a rather controversial selection."

It has been sadly clear for some time that Lego doesn’t really have standards for their collaborators, except in so far as plausible deniability of distance seems to be a factor - and not even always. Lego uses the HP contract being with Warner Bros and not Rowling as an excuse for continuing to hand large sums of money to her for use attacking human rights, and that would likely apply to Edward Scissorhands rights too, but the Ronaldo deal must have been direct. I can only assume that the Overwatch sets were selling really, really badly for that deal to be cancelled because they haven’t shown signs of caring about misdeeds since.

So, yes, likely to be controversial - but Lego clearly doesn’t care.

It would have been nice to see Pemberley come through and bring back the JA gwp for bit. After scrolling through the list I couldn't find any others I really wanted.

@magmafrost said:
"It's crazy just how much better the "parking lot" ones are than the ones that got outright accepted IMO."
The reason that sets get ‘parking lotted’ has little or nothing to do with how good the Ideas team thinks they are as concepts. It’s mostly or entirely to do with arranging licensing, getting parts moulded in different colours, fitting production schedules and the like.

@xris said:
" @Pseudoty said:
" @watcher21 said:
"So after the "no modulair rule" they pick 3 building.
Love The Old Man and the Sea and waiting in despair to see how they change it.
Amsterdam only needs some fatbikers and a few drunk tourist"

I thought the “no modular rule” was for BLD program not Ideas."

Correct, it was for the BLD program only, but that doesn't stop people from whinging and whining and / or spreading misinformation."

There's indeed never been a rule for Ideas regarding modulars, but there's also been TONS of AMAZING modulars and none were ever picked. They seem to pick mostly existing intellectual properties, recreations of art pieces, and the occasional display piece.

Notice also how the ones picked this time don't actually fit the modular mold, and as a modular superfan, I don't see much interest in those new "buildings".

@Hiratha said:
"The case he faced in the USA - or rather, the case he *brought* - was also defamation, and has considerably less standing in the UK than the UK ruling does. USA rulings apply in USA courts, not “worldwide”."

Erm... No. The US court case was for abuse. Not defamation. And again, no, as the US case was in front of a jury, which is a more serious ruling than a judges hearing, which is what happened in the UK. Also, court rulings do apply worldwide in cases of this type.

But frankly, I'm not going to waste any more time on you as it's clearly you've made up your mind despite facts proving you wrong on all counts.

Gravity Falls projects failed THREE TIMES IN ONE REVIEW?!

To quote the show: "I've been traumatized!"

May the dream demon Bill Cipher haunt your nightmares, LEGO.

@GrizBe said:
" @Hiratha said:
"The case he faced in the USA - or rather, the case he *brought* - was also defamation, and has considerably less standing in the UK than the UK ruling does. USA rulings apply in USA courts, not “worldwide”."

Erm... No. The US court case was for abuse. Not defamation. And again, no, as the US case was in front of a jury, which is a more serious ruling than a judges hearing, which is what happened in the UK. Also, court rulings do apply worldwide in cases of this type.

But frankly, I'm not going to waste any more time on you as it's clearly you've made up your mind despite facts proving you wrong on all counts. "

… No, Depp v. Heard, held in the state of Virginia, was a defamation trial, and if you can’t even get that right then… well. I think that speaks for itself.

But it is very funny to grandstand about facts given that.

Retro PC, Garfield, and KITT were also this round. A little surprised Garfield didn't make it, he's pretty willing to be merchandised into anything, and has mass appeal. KITT I'm going to assume will eventually get a Speed Champions release, which is exactly what I'd like. Hoping Lunch atop a Skyscraper evantually makes it, otherwise nothing for me this round.

@xris my bad sorry

MEHhhhhhhhhh

Can we go back to stuff like Pirates of Barracuda Bay and less licensed themes+super generic sets?

Wait, none of the submissions are allowed to be Lego original IPs right? I would love a UCS style Nexo Knights set with arm and side-leg printing.

Re: The Actual Sets, the National Lampoon films weren’t something I ever saw as a kid, and when I did catch the first Vacation film on tv as an adult the extremely racist bit made me so uncomfortable I changed the channel, so I have no opinion. I’m sure - or at least hope - fans of the film will like it.

The Amsterdam one is pretty good and might be better once it’s had the usual Lego team fairy dust spruce up, but its current colour scheme is a bit too dreary for my tastes. (Admittedly, my tastes tend to the neon, so this is by no means an objective criticism of the fan designer's choices.)

Leaving aside that I’d never buy it regardless, barring any changes to the mortal coil, aesthetically speaking I’d be more interested in an Edward Scissorhands set that reflected the contrast between gothy mansion and candy surburbia than just the mansion. Lego fandom is already pretty well supplied with castles and generally gothy mansions and buildings, and it’s the combination that makes the visual design of the film so good.

The Old Man and the Sea is fantastic and I’m hoping that the changes necessary to make it casual-builder-friendly don’t diminish its looks. (Generally, I think the Lego designers improve the appearances of Ideas designs, but that one would be very hard to improve upon.)

I never watched The Golden Girls, either, so I’m not especially bothered about that leaving the parking lot but it’s a bit of a shame about the Camping Trip. It was a nice design and non-IP sets are a pleasant change.

I think the time is ripe for a Lego water-skier jumping a shark....

At first I was excited that the Griswold house is finally getting made. Christmas Vacation is an absolutely hilarious and insane movie. But, the set will undoubtedly be $300+ and nowhere near as fun as the film itself, merely containing cute references sprinkled throughout the model, as these sets tend to have. The thought doesn't wow me like it does some people. I mean, besides the references, it'll just be another big LEGO house, and I don't collect or care about those. On top of that, by the time the final set releases (probably next fall), I will definitely not have the time, money, or space for it. I no longer know why I am at all excited that this project is getting made.

Glad the Old Man and the Sea is getting made, though; it's a nice dynamic model. Hopefully the final set doesn't water it down too much. Likewise, sad that the Camping Trip didn't make it. RIP small IDEAS sets.

The other projects are all boring as sin; par for the course for IDEAS at this point. I get that, given the name is LEGO "bricks", the natural inclination is to make buildings with them, but by golly are they the least interesting sets LEGO produces.

@jkb said:
"What you see is not what you'll get."

Agreed. A lot of pieces, especially the windows, in the Amsterdam set are no longer in production. It'll probably mean the same "problem" that the Italian Riviera set had of disappointing window shutters.

@Vesperas

You can’t be acquitted of anything if you haven’t faced trial for it, and Depp hasn’t. He sued for defamation twice and lost once and won once, the latter in highly questionable corcumstances, and neither of which resemble an acquittal.

Has the creater of the Amsterdam houses ever been to Amsterdam? They look way too bland, and the boat and sidewalk also look nothing like what you'd find there. I hope the Lego designers will make the street lantarns dark red, and somehow can add some Amsterdammertjes (though I have no idea how in legoform)

@BrickmanNL said:
"Has the creater of the Amsterdam houses ever been to Amsterdam? They look way too bland, and the boat and sidewalk also look nothing like what you'd find there."

Okay, maybe its because I've not been to Amsterdam for about 15 years now and things have changed, but it looks pretty much how I remember parts of it. The area around Anne Franks house in particular.

With you being from the Netherlands though, I'll take you as being more accurate as the more recent information.

On the upside, there's nothing here that even vaguely inspires me. My budget is safe from this wave of stuff.

I really want to like The Old Man and the Sea...

Amsterdam Canal Houses and Old Man And The Sea

Another IP gets a big, nostalgia slop set instead of a smaller vinette.

Cant wait to see Lego ruin Amsterdam as they did with Italian Riviera...

Hmmm, some very cool projects.

@edmi said: "Cant wait to see Lego ruin Amsterdam as they did with Italian Riviera"

But isn't the designer pretty much asking for it by using loads of parts that hasn't been in production for nearly half a century? Which I would call borderline cheating or at least very bad style, similar to using extensive lighting when Lego produces *zero* usable lighting options. And no, I don't consider ghastly "lunar white" LEDs which requires $100 of additional hardware, a smartphone and a continuously-running app a "usable lighting option".

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation has been become a seasonal tradition in Australia as its been shown every year in the evening on the same station for as long as I can remember. One year they scheduled it quite late, and the uproar on socials had them apologise profusely and since then its on at a sensible time.

Hopefully they release before this years showing.

Merry Christmas! Shitter was full!

As I said when Old Man and the Sea went into the parking lot (https://brickset.com/article/126382/lego-ideas-results-announced-six-projects-approved!), be fun to do a mashup of that and 21350. And Lunch Atop a Skyscraper looks cool, hope that one makes it out of the parking lot.

@Zordboy said:
"Little bummed that the Golden Girls were rejected, not gonna lie. "

Just think how https://brickset.com/minifigs/sh0032 feels.

@BrudderandHisBricks said:"As excited as I am, I’m surprised Christmas Vacation was chosen. I figured the movie was a little too adult for Lego. Interested to see how the final version looks."

I haven't seen the movie, but from what little I know of it, I was surprised too.

I love how much interest there is from both designers and voters - but when nearly 150 designs qualify in a single round and well under 1% get approved, it’s past time that Lego needs to increase the vote threshold from 10k to 20 or 25k.

@tmtomh said:
"but when nearly 150 designs qualify in a single round and well under 1% get approved"

3 out of 146 is over 2%, But I agree with your sentiment.

I love Christmas Vacation but I’m not too
Impressed with the winning design. Let’s see what LEGO does with it.

Edward Scissorhands without Danny Elfman is just an emo Wolverine. :o)

Old man and the Sea feels like the Jazz Quartet to me….ill love it yet likely fail to buy.

And it's another case of "how am I offended by this and how can I feel morally superior to a large company".

In this case 10,000 people voted for it.

@lost_scotsman said:
"I'm getting sick of Ideas being a lead in to new licence acquisitions, with only a few exceptions being the recent Tin Tin Rocket, which I would argue is a design classic even if you are not a fan of the comics. I was going to say that the days of 21334 Jazz Quartet, 21309 Apollo and 21340 Tales of the Space Age are long behind us, but forgot that we also got 21338, 21353, 21348 (an acceptable licence) 21359, 21366 and 21365, so hopefully this line can continue to innovate away from people's rose tinted nostalgia
"

Fans of those licences aren't bored of them though, and they continue to sell well often to new consumers of LEGO. And that was the original point of cuusoo/IDEAS, to make one-off sets that LEGO was not already making and to appeal to new consumers.

@jkb said:
"What you see is not what you'll get."
Doesn't matter. What I see is not what I was rooting for anyway, so don't care either way.

I like Amsterdam and the Old Man by the Sea looks interesting. The movie Edward Scissorhands isn't nostalgic for me, but if they make it smaller and spookier, it might be interesting.

Y'now, I wonder if the final Edward Scissorhands will use the scissors, Wolverine claws, or something else. (Side note: For years, I thought Edward Scissorhands was a slasher movie, because I'd only heard the title.)

Yup! Same here!

@Zordboy said:
"Little bummed that the Golden Girls were rejected, not gonna lie. "

I built my own Amsterdam canal houses based on actual buildings there, so I likely can skip it. But I will see if I like any of them.

I built my own Griswald house 2024 also, which I just took apart, so I won't buy that one either. BUT I do like some minifigures.

And same goes for Eddy S-hands, I'll pick up the figures for sure, but I don't care enough about the building.

UNLESS any of these go on an awesome sale I guess similar to the Willy Wonka set or something. Then I may oblige.

Another stunning round of disappointments.
At least it saves me money :)

Amsterdam is missing two attributes

The "coffee" shop (not the coffee) and the "lady" in the red/purple window

Interesting if they make those large trans tiles

No thanks to all of them. By now i hate all licenses in lego form. Now tlg is getting onto licenses people have fogotten about like edward scissorhands.. well who needs that? Perticulary in this size!?

I will say what i have to say and i think its about time that people have to rethink their buying behaviour and instead of buying set x of license y try to build it yourself you will probably have enough lego pieces to do so if you can handle the fact that some of your display sets have to be disassembled to do so.

I hope more and more people will realise that LEGO doesnt need to make a set for every film, series or game. All LEGO needs is space, castle, city, pirates, adventurers and original themes like dreamzzz. If there wasnt star wars or marvel in the product line, the dreamzzz theme would sell like mad! i bet there is more people whom love lego for the bricks and not for the ip licenses. What the hell happened to A NEW TOY EVERY DAY?

All other themes will be sold better and this will spark the creativiy again! Real Star Wars Lego fans dislike the sets anyways! They moc them themselfes! All whats important are the minifigures so it seems which as well decrease in quality year after year. It almost looks like lego is trying to do as less as possible for the highest price and the dumb fans buy it still.. How far can they go with hulkbusters!?! lego is laughing and fans are happy, well done lego, good job. But please come back to your roots after you robbed the dumb people.

Again, all freakin licenses should leave lego alone! I bet the set design teams of those themes are bored as hell as well making the 10 iteration of a millenium falcon... Or some other boring grey ship which are at least colourful from the inside to build something intirely different out of it.. No one of the star wars fans would ever use of those colourful bricks to do something different.. thats a shame too! Creativity is lost!

Compare them to the dreamzzz or creator 3in1 design teams, they can do what they want in some or the other way. that doesnt mean that they cant be questionable too but at least there is no war involved like in your beloved star WARS