Clearer image of 42100 Liebherr R 9800
Posted by CapnRex101,
42100 Liebherr R 9800 was probably among the most exciting new sets that emerged from the Nuremberg Toy Fair a couple of months ago. Bouwsteentjes has now uncovered a slightly clearer image of the set, showing its exterior in more detail.
This model will be released on the 1st of August and includes CONTROL+, a system which should enable several functions to be executed concurrently! It reportedly costs €449.99 in Germany, probably equating to around £399.99 or $449.99 given the price of 42083 Bugatti Chiron.
Are you looking forward to 42100 Liebherr R 9800? Let us know in the comments.
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Ok even the bucket wheel excavator looked kinda cool, like it had a drivers cab and lights and was a cool design with multiple rotating carpets and stuff, but this is..
..just an ugly blob.
Based on the above picture, I will not be getting in the queue for this one. Concurrent functions is interesting, but for the potential price tag, it would have to be really interesting.
What a monster. Powerful.... Must have.
Yeah... That's another no from me. These last few years the Technic flagships have been really disappointing to me. The last one I bought was the Arocs. The cars look ugly and the other stuff is a bit useless as LEGO keeps changing the scale of its projects. I'm sure it's fun to build but it's also very expensive and I can't justify myself spending that much money on just a building experience.
"Its ugly".... it's just based on a real model.
Construcion vehicles don't meant to be Ferraris.
Please keep that in mind.
Looks like a crapulous excavator.
I would probably get it, if it was not for the control scheme via app. No way am I going to buy a Technic set that I can probably only use for parts or as a display model in a few years. This set is another sure sign Lego has lost the connection to their customer base - they simply have no idea what they want or worse, they do not care.
Definitely for me, but will wait for the discounts before buying unless some good VIP offers.
That looks sweet! I love monster vehicles like this. The only thing I don't like is that it's app-controlled. There is no way I'm going to buy something this big and expensive that can only work with an app with sketchy and short-term support. If, however, it can also work with the regular remote, like the trains, then it is going on my shopping list.
I sure am looking forward to it! And it has to be, by far, one of my favorite LEGO sets; even though getting it is far from feasible at nearly $500. But then again, app control. Not too crazy about it. Too bad LEGO can't figure out how to make their stuff work with existing 2.4 GHZ controllers with multiple functions--i.e. those used to pilot model aircraft.
Not crazy about the design. Even less crazy about the concept of app-based control. Fooled me into thinking it had pneumatics at first, but closer looks make me think the hoses are just for show.
Why is there yellow connector/pin (part 15100) all over the place on that model? They do not serve any purposes and are ugly. At least the pneumatic hoses are there for the look even if they also serve no purposes.
Imagine that if they had developped a proper hydraulic system with fine-grain control for that model? Would be messy to set up, but so much fun and desirable (especially for remote control situation).
This probably means CAD$700 at current exchange rates. I want it but I cannot justify paying that amount for what that is. For some reasons in Canada we hardly ever get sales for more than 20% - at CAD$560; I might go for it.
Thanks VV @Hogwartus for the precision!
no no no no no.
@HOBBES These yellow connectors represent attachments for crane's hook on the real machine. (It can be disassembled for transport)
Thank you for mentioning Bouwsteentjes.
I just looked at the real thing on the net. This model looks to be pretty much minifig scale!
Promobricks has some real crisp pictures: https://www.promobricks.de/lego-42100-technic-liebherr-r9800-bauma-2019/78977
As a technic fan, this one is not for me. Cost, size, and control mechanism, not to mention the pneumatics "just for show". Hard pass.
I consider myself a Technic fan but these massive excavators don't do it for me... You don't have to go bigger all the time for more functions. Just look at what I still think is one of the best Technic sets ever, 8480 Space Shuttle. And if you're looking for construction equipment with many functions look at 8455 Back Hoe, 8043 Motorised Excavator or Jennifer Clark's hook lift truck (http://www.genuinemodels.com/hooklift.htm).
Normally this type of model would be just my thing, a construction vehicle that looks like the real world piece of equipment and has plenty of groovy functions. But, and it's a big but, £400?? Even with typical 33% discounts on you know where there's no way I can justify this magnitude of expenditure.
Easy pass...
If I had the room, I'd get it. My collecting has slowed significantly since I completely ran out of room to even build.
That'll run close to $700(Canadian) with tax included. I just can't see them selling many of these but we shall see.
These app-based sets are really quite annoying...
neato...
interrestingly they wrote "Lego Technic R 9800" without full capitalisation of LEGO ;)
There is a chance this set will end my love affair with Technic. A few years ago I thought there has surely never been a better time to be a Technic fan, when the CLAAS tractor and bucket wheel excavator came out. But now I'm not sure. Unless this set has some serious wow that I can't tell from what little information there is about it, I'm going to pass. If so, this will be the first time I don't get the flagship set for about 20 years :(
I don't think those hoses are just for show. You can see that there is a pneumatic cylinder which opens the bucket, and it has not been connected. The set is not fully assembled, simple as that, some hoses are missing.
It is probably a good choice to use pneumatics to open the bucket, it is hard to get a powered axle all the way down there to do the job.
Looks like the new 11x7 frame that’s in the new spike set is in this one too but coloured white
@fredrigl I do not believe the hoses are are for anything but show. What you are calling a pneumatic cylinder is just a mini linear actuator. It looks to me like the large actuator that comes from the superstructure to the middle of the lower arm is tied to that mini actuator to control the bucket tilt.
It's clear from the pictures that the hoses are not connected on either end of the tee pieces to any mechanisms.
There might be a clearer image, but it crops out the interesting bit - the image on the box of what hubs and controllers go into the set!
Wow so ugly compared to clickits! Imagine how many clickits you could buy instead of this waste!
I like it. But I don't like the idea to control it with my phone. My 8860 car everybody can play with now 39 years later. Not sure if there will be a phone 39 years from now that can control this Liebherr.
So I don't know yet if I will get it for that reason.
@tomahawker: Perhaps you are right. There could be a powered axle going all the way into the scoop to operate it. And the hoses might be for decoration. No problem, I think, it just makes the vehicle more "model team" like. As long as the functions are there, I am happy.
My issue with the model is that it is too large. There is a limit to how large Technic models can be and still be sturdy, and I think this model pushes it. On the other hand, this is in itself a really sturdy model, so perhaps it is playable.
@nordbart:
interrestingly they wrote "Lego Technic R 9800" without full capitalisation of LEGO ;)
No they did not, they wrote Lego Technik... Germans, ey? ;)
Good thing i got out of technic a while ago.
That mother is awesome, I haven't bought a Technic set in years, this might be the next one.
What are the yellow pinhole connectors on the side of the boom, and on the base, for? The ones on the base might be for tying the vehicle down during transport. But the ones on the boom seem like they might be for an additional hose.
I'm a Technic fan since 1978 when I was a 6 years old child, I have a lot of sets (excluding the "LEGO's dark era" items). I agree with a lot of fans that are thinking that TLG is getting far from the fans expectations, following only brand's interests (see Bugatti, Land Rover, and so on).
I'll not buy this hugly monster for sure!
@Duq . . . I agree. . . enough with the big excavators already.
And yes, please do an update on the Technic Shuttle (8480) . . . that is one of the most sought after Technic sets and it sells for WAY TOO MUCH on ebay!
I'm sure it's impressive, but why is it completely colourless? I just don't see any display appeal to this at all.
So bizarre seeing so much resistance to the potential of bluetooth-controlled motors and systems. Even if the app one day becomes unavailable (which is unlikely to happen in the near future, as Lego has committed to using this app across many themes and systems rather than limiting it to one), a wireless protocol like this uses will be much, much easier to make open source (a goal that the developers of the system have stated) in the future than, say, outdated hardware-based connections like in the old Lego Mindstorms sets. To me the use of Bluetooth motors and electronics controlled through an app strikes me as forward-thinking.
As for this set... I'm not the biggest Technic connector and probably won't spring for a set of this size. But I think the demands for a smaller model seem a little silly to me, simply because Lego's done that before—the whole point of doing this version at such a high price point and piece count is to create an excavator that outclasses earlier sets in both size and functionality, and I expect that it will be able to do both. For those who aren't interested in that, this surely won't be the last excavator set in the Lego Technic theme, and plenty of older sets are available on the aftermarket as well.
I think it's just too big, and it's pretty ugly too - I have to agree with someguy827's "ugly blob" wording, whether or not that's the real model's look. AND super-expensive.
Why not make more in the likes of the Claas Xerion and Volvo L350F..?
It looks like the Suck-o-matic from Rocco’s Modern Life! Doesn’t it?
Lyichir, when LEGO publish the specs of the wireless protocol and an open source controller app implementation, I will be game to try CONTROL+. Until then, Viva la Resistance.
Love it! Expensive: yes but one can wait for promotions. Ugly: yes but so is the real thing. App-control: Don’t get why people nag about the app control. Lego has to go with the flow on this in order to keep in touch with the new generation of technic builders. Even in high end industrial automation app control is a thing. So although not a must for me, I think LEGO made the right decision here. I do also hope it has alternative control.
This is one of the easiest passes for me in the history of Technic sets. It ticks all the boxes from the start:
- hideous to look at (just like the source material)
- totally overpriced
- lack of interesting functions tbh (and fake-pneumatics just for show, what the...?)
- app control, the absolute deal-breaker for me
In short, I don't see this having any more play value than my favorite Technic set of all time 8043, or its runner-up, the Arocs.
I miss the days when we got sets with plenty of functions, good looks, robust controls, and all at reasonable prices. Just for comparison, check out sets like
8043, 8258, 8275, 8285, 8480, 42009, 42030, 42042, 42043, 42054
to name but a few of the highlights.
Honestly, if that is the way Technic is destined to continue in future, I will stop buying into this theme completely.
Not only a hideous set, but also one that won't increase in value. It seems like Stevie Wonder is still head of LEGO's design team!
Stevie wonder as in ‘isn’t she lovely’?
Increase in value shouldn’t be something lego has to consider. That would only fuel copy cat brands.
There's definitely going to be restistance against phone-controlled motors (including from me), and it was probably forseeable. They could have just done both a physical controller and a phone app using the same protocol, so that everyone would be happy.
I've seen that the new control+ components started to appear in the Lego shop. One main complaint about PowerFunction boxes is that they're bulky and expensive. The new boxes are even bulkier and even more expensive! (look at that 'Move Hub'). I forsee huge success... ;)
Yes, this is gonna be awesome!!! I also am not big on app controls, however, and hope a compatible hardware controller is made available at some point.
I love the Technic line of products, but I feel that the price point of some Lego products is reaching too high. I will probably not buy this product because of the price. If I had unlimited funds and a warehouse to store all my Lego sets, I would buy it because I am an AFOL!!!