First image of 76193 Benatar!
Posted by CapnRex101,
Shortly after the emergence of several new Marvel sets earlier today, Brickset dispatched one of our 'agents' to acquire several products for review.
The instruction manual inside 76192 Avengers Endgame Final Battle provides our first look at another upcoming Marvel set, 76193 Benatar! From this image, you can spot Rocket Raccoon inside the cockpit.
Many thanks to Jedi News for the image.
Update: Amazon.fr has published official images which you can view in the database.
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Looks cool, but I’ll stick to the older one.
Nice! Thanks for reporting!
Honestly, I’m a bit disappointed. It’s definitely an improvement over the last version, but it doesn’t look like enough of an improvement to justify what I’m sure will be a $150+ purchase. That said, if you don’t have a copy of the 2018 Benatar, this looks pretty nice.
For me, it feels like this entire Marvel wave sounded cooler before I saw pictures. Which is disappointing for me but a relief for my wallet.
Every set in this wave looks great! Can’t wait for the rumoured Sanctuary II, Asgard House and Spider-Man/mysterio sets!!
All these Marvel sets while all DC got was the 60s Batmobile and that minifigure pack.
This is so clean looking!
Hmmm.... looks good, but I want to see the interior space.
Looks like Rocket is in the cockpit on this one. so maybe an endgame set?
It looks good, but good enough to justify coming out only two years after the last one? I guess we'll have to wait and see.
@Pekingduckman said:
"All these Marvel sets while all DC got was the 60s Batmobile and that minifigure pack."
Avengers: Endgame made 2 billion dollars. The Justice League movie grossed 229 million dollars. The last DC team-up movie barely made half as much money than the last Marvel solo movie (Captain Marvel did 443 million).
@Mr__Thrawn said:
" @Pekingduckman said:
"All these Marvel sets while all DC got was the 60s Batmobile and that minifigure pack."
Avengers: Endgame made 2 billion dollars. The Justice League movie grossed 229 million dollars. The last DC team-up movie barely made half as much money than the last Marvel solo movie (Captain Marvel did 443 million)."
But the shadow cast by The Dark Knight in critical circles far exceeds that of the MCU, and Joker (I personally consider the film to be a pale Taxi Driver bootleg; however, critics are falling head over toes over Joaquin Phoenix), The Dark Knight Trilogy, Watchmen (the comic), the Sandman and Marvelman hold leagues more prestige. I think they balance out the MCU’s lucrative theme park popcorn fodder, and thus deserve equal attention from LEGO.
@TheRightP_art said:
" @Mr__Thrawn said:
" @Pekingduckman said:
"All these Marvel sets while all DC got was the 60s Batmobile and that minifigure pack."
Avengers: Endgame made 2 billion dollars. The Justice League movie grossed 229 million dollars. The last DC team-up movie barely made half as much money than the last Marvel solo movie (Captain Marvel did 443 million)."
But the shadow cast by The Dark Knight in critical circles is far larger than that of the MCU, and Joker (I personally don’t like the film but critics are falling head over toes over Joaquin Phoenix), The Dark Knight Trilogy, Watchmen (the comic), the Sandman and Marvelman hold way more prestige.
"
As much as I agree- Watchmen and Sandman are some of my favorite books of all time- prestige and acclaim don't always translate to sales. Dark Knight was 13 years ago, Joker definitely falls under the "no realistic modern violence" rule, and Marvelman is a mess in terms of licensing, to the extent where its name varies from country to country. Sandman is a whole other issue- not only is there more than a bit of violence, it's presented from a perspective of horror and there's quite a bit more other content in the comics that LEGO would almost certainly find objectionable. I mean, can you imagine a LEGO set based on a series that includes "24 Hours"? The MCU definitely doesn't reach the highs of the DC or FOX/Marvel output, but the Disney/Marvel movies have been far more consistent from a financial perspective. DC has far less cultural cachet, especially with LEGO's core audience. Kids love Batman and the Joker, but most other DC characters take a backseat to Iron Man and Captain America and especially Spider-Man in terms of sales. (I also agree about Joker by the way, I liked the score and Joaquin was reliably good, but it felt a whole lot like King of Comedy and was thematically ambiguous to the point of boredom IMO.)
@TheRightP_art said:
" @Mr__Thrawn said:
" @Pekingduckman said:
"All these Marvel sets while all DC got was the 60s Batmobile and that minifigure pack."
Avengers: Endgame made 2 billion dollars. The Justice League movie grossed 229 million dollars. The last DC team-up movie barely made half as much money than the last Marvel solo movie (Captain Marvel did 443 million)."
But the shadow cast by The Dark Knight in critical circles far exceeds that of the MCU, and Joker (I personally consider the film to be a pale Taxi Driver bootleg; however, critics are falling head over toes over Joaquin Phoenix), The Dark Knight Trilogy, Watchmen (the comic), the Sandman and Marvelman hold leagues more prestige. I think they balance out the MCU’s lucrative theme park popcorn fodder, and thus deserve equal attention from LEGO.
"
Of course Kids care hugely about what the critics think when it comes to toys
@TheRightP_art said:
" @Mr__Thrawn said:
" @Pekingduckman said:
"All these Marvel sets while all DC got was the 60s Batmobile and that minifigure pack."
Avengers: Endgame made 2 billion dollars. The Justice League movie grossed 229 million dollars. The last DC team-up movie barely made half as much money than the last Marvel solo movie (Captain Marvel did 443 million)."
But the shadow cast by The Dark Knight in critical circles far exceeds that of the MCU, and Joker (I personally consider the film to be a pale Taxi Driver bootleg; however, critics are falling head over toes over Joaquin Phoenix), The Dark Knight Trilogy, Watchmen (the comic), the Sandman and Marvelman hold leagues more prestige. I think they balance out the MCU’s lucrative theme park popcorn fodder, and thus deserve equal attention from LEGO.
"
Critics are not the only source of credible feedback in society though. There's also reviewers, bloggers, and general fans. And in some cases, either one of the three kinds of feedback can understand the point and judge the movie better than the general critic. Critics tend to completely miss aspects like nostalgia or parts of a movie being ridiculous simply for the sake of being ridiculous (ala Fast and Furious), choosing instead to focus on the cinematography, writing, performances and relation to worldly concepts. And that's cool and all, but it absolutely is not the ultimatum when it comes to deciding how good a movie is, nor is is the most accurate judgement every time. It's just how good a movie is from one type of perspective.
It's also important to mention that the overall failure of the DCEU means that lines like the Infinity Saga are not an option for them. You want to get a line like that, you have to earn it. Successful standalone movies, most of whom are for adults and not exactly a good source for toys anyways, are not going to get that job done. A decade plus of lighting up the box offices with the greatest cinematic universe in the history of film - THAT gets it done.
I would love more DC stuff too (and we ARE getting a new D2C Tumbler apparently), but I also completely understand why LEGO is leaning the way that they are.
Ooh, orange triangular 2x2 tiles!
@Mr__Thrawn said:
" @TheRightP_art said:
" @Mr__Thrawn said:
" @Pekingduckman said:
"All these Marvel sets while all DC got was the 60s Batmobile and that minifigure pack."
Avengers: Endgame made 2 billion dollars. The Justice League movie grossed 229 million dollars. The last DC team-up movie barely made half as much money than the last Marvel solo movie (Captain Marvel did 443 million)."
But the shadow cast by The Dark Knight in critical circles is far larger than that of the MCU, and Joker (I personally don’t like the film but critics are falling head over toes over Joaquin Phoenix), The Dark Knight Trilogy, Watchmen (the comic), the Sandman and Marvelman hold way more prestige.
"
As much as I agree- Watchmen and Sandman are some of my favorite books of all time- prestige and acclaim don't always translate to sales. Dark Knight was 13 years ago, Joker definitely falls under the "no realistic modern violence" rule, and Marvelman is a mess in terms of licensing, to the extent where its name varies from country to country. Sandman is a whole other issue- not only is there more than a bit of violence, it's presented from a perspective of horror and there's quite a bit more other content in the comics that LEGO would almost certainly find objectionable. I mean, can you imagine a LEGO set based on a series that includes "24 Hours"? The MCU definitely doesn't reach the highs of the DC or FOX/Marvel output, but the Disney/Marvel movies have been far more consistent from a financial perspective. DC has far less cultural cachet, especially with LEGO's core audience. Kids love Batman and the Joker, but most other DC characters take a backseat to Iron Man and Captain America and especially Spider-Man in terms of sales. (I also agree about Joker by the way, I liked the score and Joaquin was reliably good, but it felt a whole lot like King of Comedy and was thematically ambiguous to the point of boredom IMO.)"
Yes, but a Corinthian minifig? just imagine :)
Sunglasses on one side, something terrifying on the other!
I think I also spotted Star lord.
@CaptainVictoria said:
"I think I also spotted Star lord."
It looks like he's got Superman's hair in brown
I thought it was meant to be UCS style? This doesn’t look that much bigger than the 2018 version. Good update but would’ve much preferred the Milano again instead of this one.
What the heck. Looks like bootleg copies of 76107 & 76131 released wayyyy too late. What the heck is with Thanos, he looks like a bootleg and his head is ugly with a flat top and stud. Even if it can turn, it looks bad. And where is the gauntlet??? Given how bad these repeats look compared to the originals I am not surprised for them to forget the central plot item.
76193... I did not know nor care about the Milano replacements name, because I did not hear it mentioned in any of the movies. Why would they remake it? The reason 76107 sold was because of being the only set with Thanos and the Gauntlet, not because of the ship. That ugly thing went straight into the parts bin in my case.
Are the LEGO sales department really that dense they would order a remake of these sets that sold well not because of the model, but because of the Gauntlet and Thanos. And no Gauntlet in sight here and Thanos is only in one of them... did they not put Thanos and his glove in the two older sets to entice customers in spite of the larger pricetag and drive sales?
The best thing about these is Iron Man seems to have his old opening helmet! But why did they completely seem to overlook putting it in last years sets, then?
If the source was not legit, I would never think these sets were real.
@Norikins said:
"What the heck. Looks like bootleg copies of 76107 & 76131 released wayyyy too late. What the heck is with Thanos, he looks like a bootleg and his head is ugly with a flat top and stud. Even if it can turn, it looks bad. And where is the gauntlet??? Given how bad these repeats look compared to the originals I am not surprised for them to forget the central plot item.
76193... I did not know nor care about the Milano replacements name, because I did not hear it mentioned in any of the movies. Why would they remake it? The reason 76107 sold was because of being the only set with Thanos and the Gauntlet, not because of the ship. That ugly thing went straight into the parts bin in my case.
Are the LEGO sales department really that dense they would order a remake of these sets that sold well not because of the model, but because of the Gauntlet and Thanos. And no Gauntlet in sight here and Thanos is only in one of them... did they not put Thanos and his glove in the two older sets to entice customers in spite of the larger pricetag and drive sales?
The best thing about these is Iron Man seems to have his old opening helmet! But why did they completely seem to overlook putting it in last years sets, then?
If the source was not legit, I would never think these sets were real."
I bought 76107 for the ship. Thanos and the gauntlet are much less interesting to me than the ship!
This set looks so fantastic, but I don't like that $150 dollar price.
@TheRightP_art said:
" @Mr__Thrawn said:
" @Pekingduckman said:
"All these Marvel sets while all DC got was the 60s Batmobile and that minifigure pack."
Avengers: Endgame made 2 billion dollars. The Justice League movie grossed 229 million dollars. The last DC team-up movie barely made half as much money than the last Marvel solo movie (Captain Marvel did 443 million)."
But the shadow cast by The Dark Knight in critical circles far exceeds that of the MCU, and Joker (I personally consider the film to be a pale Taxi Driver bootleg; however, critics are falling head over toes over Joaquin Phoenix), The Dark Knight Trilogy, Watchmen (the comic), the Sandman and Marvelman hold leagues more prestige. I think they balance out the MCU’s lucrative theme park popcorn fodder, and thus deserve equal attention from LEGO.
"
Who... who exactly do you think Lego is primarily marketing these sets to? You understand they're not made primarily for adult collectors, right? They're childrens' toys. Being marketed to children. Critical reception of 10+ year old movies doesnt mean jack to a 10-year-old.
I was skeptical of the need for another Benetar, since the last one is pretty good, at least as sets go. But this one absolutely blows it out of the water, such a dramatic improvement it almost looks like a MOC.
I'm not even a Marvel collector but I picked up the 76021 Milano because I like the ship design, and really enjoyed the GoG films. All the subsequent 'juniorized' ships look pretty lame, but the new Benatar is impressive and I'll likely grab one - great looking ship.
@Norikins said:
"What the heck. Looks like bootleg copies of 76107 & 76131 released wayyyy too late. What the heck is with Thanos, he looks like a bootleg and his head is ugly with a flat top and stud. Even if it can turn, it looks bad. And where is the gauntlet??? Given how bad these repeats look compared to the originals I am not surprised for them to forget the central plot item.
76193... I did not know nor care about the Milano replacements name, because I did not hear it mentioned in any of the movies. Why would they remake it? The reason 76107 sold was because of being the only set with Thanos and the Gauntlet, not because of the ship. That ugly thing went straight into the parts bin in my case.
Are the LEGO sales department really that dense they would order a remake of these sets that sold well not because of the model, but because of the Gauntlet and Thanos. And no Gauntlet in sight here and Thanos is only in one of them... did they not put Thanos and his glove in the two older sets to entice customers in spite of the larger pricetag and drive sales?
The best thing about these is Iron Man seems to have his old opening helmet! But why did they completely seem to overlook putting it in last years sets, then?
If the source was not legit, I would never think these sets were real."
I bought 76107 for the ship. Thanos has gone into the parts bin. I didn’t really remember the Milano name being mentioned in the movies either.
Look slightly larger and fancier than the previous version.
I prefer Pat...
Come on Lego Benetar: hit me with your best shot.
Looks cool, but it's definitely going to be too pricey - for me, anyway.
As for Marvel vs DC: I don't care as I don't watch modern Superhero popcorn-fodder movies. I prefer more "substantial" and intelligent entertainment. If anything, I'd rather watch the Joker instead of Avengers: Endgame.
That aside, the set looks appealing from an aesthetic standpoint.
Plus, imagine exchanging those orange pieces with blue and the cockpit window with trans-yellow, and you got yourself an awesome neo-Classic Space set.
@AustinPowers said:
"As for Marvel vs DC: I don't care as I don't watch modern Superhero popcorn-fodder movies. I prefer more "substantial" and intelligent entertainment. If anything, I'd rather watch the Joker instead of Avengers: Endgame.
That aside, the set looks appealing from an aesthetic standpoint.
Plus, imagine exchanging those orange pieces with blue and the cockpit window with trans-yellow, and you got yourself an awesome neo-Classic Space set. "
Most superhero films are dumb and off putting, but to deride an entire genre just because the majority is soulless... Please read Watchmen, the Sandman, and Marvelman or watch Akira (I know it’s not a superhero film, but in a modern context, it works as a deconstruction of the masculine ideal and power fantasy present in many of these superhero works; the manga is good too but very long), and HBOs Watchmen.
The differences with 76107 are very minor, mainly more detail using smaller tiles and curved slopes rather than leaving exposed studs.
@TheRightP_art said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"As for Marvel vs DC: I don't care as I don't watch modern Superhero popcorn-fodder movies. I prefer more "substantial" and intelligent entertainment. If anything, I'd rather watch the Joker instead of Avengers: Endgame.
That aside, the set looks appealing from an aesthetic standpoint.
Plus, imagine exchanging those orange pieces with blue and the cockpit window with trans-yellow, and you got yourself an awesome neo-Classic Space set. "
Most superhero films are dumb and off putting, but to deride an entire genre just because the majority is soulless... Please read Watchmen, the Sandman, and Marvelman or watch Akira (I know it’s not a superhero film, but in a modern context, it works as a deconstruction of the masculine ideal and power fantasy present in many of these superhero works; the manga is good too but very long), and HBOs Watchmen.
"
You really can’t call Sandman a superhero comic, it brushes against superheros to start, as it was forced to and then moved swiftly away.
There is 0% chance of there ever being a Sandman lego set, its far far too adult
This looks good might be a bit pricey but definitely an improvement on the older one
@TheRightP_art : I've actually watched (and enjoyed) Akira way back in the Nineties, but as you said, it is not a Superhero movie, certainly not in the vain of modern Hollywood popcorn blockbusters (for a start, it's not a live action film but an Anime).
I also didn't say that those movies don't serve a purpose, I mean, they manage to entertain millions of people. I simply am not one of them. Perhaps if I still was in my teens and didn't know any better I would get enjoyment out of such movies, but like Roger Murtough, I am probably simply "too old for this ...." ;-)
A few more pictures of this beautiful set and it will make me regret my previous version, which now looks a bit too... Simple next to this new one.
I wish they'd remade The Milano like this, featuring Gamora and Drax rather than Thor and a random Chitauri...
Looks like almost a full AFOL whining bingo card in the comment section:
- obligatory whining about the price (how some people can be chronically offended by the price of LEGO is beyond me, it's like complaining that water is too wet)
- second-guessing TLG about what set they should have released instead of this
- complaining about minifigs
Personally, I think it looks cool and will probably pick it up as a birthday present for myself.
Looks good. Will preorder the playsets, excluding caps bike.
Not to be entitled and complain-y but I really do hope they get away from the MCU and start giving us new characters LEGO hasn't done before
Looks pretty sweet, although pricey and summer's going to be a wallet buster. Can't wait to see interior pics. My only criticism is that it doesn't really look anything like Pat Bena.... sorry, wrong Benatar.
@the_red_wheelbarrow said:
"Not to be entitled and complain-y but I really do hope they get away from the MCU and start giving us new characters LEGO hasn't done before"
I too would like to see more sets and minifigs based on the classic comics and not just on the MCU. I seriously want the Punisher; his battle van; and his friend, Microchip.
I want this! Do we know when it's going to be released?
@Terreneflame said:
" @TheRightP_art said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"As for Marvel vs DC: I don't care as I don't watch modern Superhero popcorn-fodder movies. I prefer more "substantial" and intelligent entertainment. If anything, I'd rather watch the Joker instead of Avengers: Endgame.
That aside, the set looks appealing from an aesthetic standpoint.
Plus, imagine exchanging those orange pieces with blue and the cockpit window with trans-yellow, and you got yourself an awesome neo-Classic Space set. "
Most superhero films are dumb and off putting, but to deride an entire genre just because the majority is soulless... Please read Watchmen, the Sandman, and Marvelman or watch Akira (I know it’s not a superhero film, but in a modern context, it works as a deconstruction of the masculine ideal and power fantasy present in many of these superhero works; the manga is good too but very long), and HBOs Watchmen.
"
You really can’t call Sandman a superhero comic, it brushes against superheros to start, as it was forced to and then moved swiftly away.
There is 0% chance of there ever being a Sandman lego set, its far far too adult
"
Fair point. In retrospect I really should have referenced it as a graphic novel or work of dark fantasy/horror. Although the wider superhero DC universe is alluded to frequently in the first couple issues, it is very much a standalone piece that is far more obsessed with metaphysical ideas than paragons of heroism. Then again, “comic books” are typically lumped in with superheroes; however I do concede that it is a massive oversimplification and disservice to describe the Sandman as such.
What crawled up on top of Thor’s head and died?
@gorillax said:
"They need to release sets based on the comics instead of rehashing MCU sets, their annual report even shows that these sets don't sell` anymore"
Not sure where you get that idea: Marvel/MCU isn't mentioned in the annual report at all and hasn't been since the start of the licensing deal in 2012.
So how does everyone feel with this year and just the re-releases of sets? Is Lego getting lazy? Are they giving those that missed out the opportunity to get them again. Are they just trying to tank the resale value of older sets?
This year alone has seen the most re-release of sets ever, and like others have mentioned the price just goes up, the design looks slightly better.
Has Lego just given up? Or is this a product of the pandemic and people working from home, new people flocking to buy up sets to keep busy and lusting after old sets.
@brickset @huw you guys should maybe run an article of how many sets have been re-released this year alone.
We got the Nasa Saturn V rocket, Ship in a Bottle, R2-D2, The Benetar, now I hear the Tumbler is coming out again multiple star wars sets have been redone just to be smaller and "cheaper"
@kkoster79 said:
"So how does everyone feel with this year and just the re-releases of sets? Is Lego getting lazy? Are they giving those that missed out the opportunity to get them again. Are they just trying to tank the resale value of older sets?
This year alone has seen the most re-release of sets ever, and like others have mentioned the price just goes up, the design looks slightly better.
Has Lego just given up? Or is this a product of the pandemic and people working from home, new people flocking to buy up sets to keep busy and lusting after old sets.
@brickset @huw you guys should maybe run an article of how many sets have been re-released this year alone.
We got the Nasa Saturn V rocket, Ship in a Bottle, R2-D2, The Benetar, now I hear the Tumbler is coming out again multiple star wars sets have been redone just to be smaller and "cheaper""
There is a major difference between the exact re-release Saturn V and the downscaled X-Wing. LEGO keeps the core Star Wars ships on shelves at all times, so redesigns are necessary. There have been comparatively few Marvel releases.
Price for UK is £135 I believe
@Norikins:
For a franchise like Fast & Furious, they could run for decades without repeating anything just because there’s a bazillion cars in that franchise. Every time someone has to go to the corner store, or has a conversation about the best toilet paper routine, or coughs, there’s a new car that you haven’t seen before. For the MCU...not so much. Aside from the Guardians, pretty much every superhero operates on foot. They don’t want to just release a bunch of battle packs, so they need models you can build. The Milano and Benetar are really the only iconic vehicles in the entire movie series (assuming you exclude every Ironman armor, and Mjolnir).
If I’d bought that other set, it would have been for GotG, because Grimace is just a weak Darkseid clone who stole his sword from a helicopter. And the reason you’ve probably never heard of the Benatar is that they’ve just been calling it “The Guardians’ Ship” in both 30525 and 76193. Maybe they didn’t want to confuse consumers, maybe they just never got material listing the name, or maybe there was a licensing issue with using the last name of a real person (maybe that’s why the Milano went away).
@ambr said:
"The differences with 76107 are very minor, mainly more detail using smaller tiles and curved slopes rather than leaving exposed studs."
Really? There are nearly three times as many pieces and this is a far larger model.
@kkoster79 said:
"So how does everyone feel with this year and just the re-releases of sets? Is Lego getting lazy? Are they giving those that missed out the opportunity to get them again. Are they just trying to tank the resale value of older sets?"
Alternatively: these are sets Lego didn't have the licence for at the time (Iron Monger Mayhem), never produced (Black Panther Flyer), are redoing now the film isn't hamstrung by pre-release secrecy (Avengers Compound), or expanding (the Benatar). That doesn't seem particularly lazy to me.