10271 Fiat 500 to be re-released in new colour
Posted by CapnRex101,
10271 Fiat 500 was released last year, featuring an appealing bright light yellow colour scheme. PromoBricks has found evidence that the set will be re-released in another colour, from this publicly-available safety document.
No external changes are apparent and the piece count of 960 appears to remain the same too. I believe the colour most closely resembles bright light blue, although medium azure seems more likely given the range of available elements in that colour.
You can view a blurry image of the new model, taken from the above document, after the break...
Another document shows that 31058 Mighty Dinosaurs, a popular Creator 3-in-1 set, will be re-released in dark blue.
What other models do you think would benefit from re-releases in new colours and would you consider purchasing the updated Fiat 500? I think my collecting is sufficiently crazed to necessitate owning both versions!
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I misread the first sentence as ‘appalling’ instead of ‘appealing’. :)
Would love to see the Mustang released in ‘Bullitt’green.
Cool, but completely unnecessary and money-gouging by TLG!!
And yet many collectors will happily fork over there hard-earned money for this overpriced set ….. twice!!
10265 Ford Mustang in silver!
Erm... Okay!
How about 75192 Millennium Falcon in rainbow colours?
I liked the build experience enough and have the Lego car collecting bug so this would go to the upper section of my want list for sure!
For the record the Ford Mustang in dark red keeping the white stripe would be awesome :D
Weird. Why? They seem to be flooding the market with Creator Expert cars this year. Porsche 911, VW Microbus, Pickup Truck, and now this? There was a designer interview a few years ago where Mike Psiaki said they didn't want to release more than one Creator Expert car per year because they didn't want anyone to feel like they couldn't afford to keep up with the Creator Expert car series. I guess that's changed?
When it was released I said pale blue would have been nicer than pale yellow. Wouldn't be rushing to the shops to get it but might pick it up eventually.
I'd love to see a red Porsche 911 but I'm guessing that colour is reserved for Ferraris...
This really doesn't make sense. LEGO is not exactly Hot Wheels, and shelling out what each of these sets cost isn't exactly like forking over the princely sum of $1.06 (VA sales tax) for a Matchbox or Hot Wheels car recolor. Sure this isn't a photoshop job just for the document?
Count me in as another who would like to see the Mustang in Bullitt colors.
Is 31058 the longest-selling non-Expert Creator set? It seems to have been around since the very end of 2016, so it'll reach its fifth birthday if it's still available at the end of the year. Deservedly so, by the way: Rebrickable shows dozens of alt builds on top of the three in the set plus a fourth bonus instruction download.
Recolouring it to make it new yet keep it available seems smart (and given it's a $15 set with over 170 pieces, hardly "money-gouging").
Yellow Car! 1 point to me! (Anyone else play that game?)
Definitely the Porsche. The white didn't do it for me, but I would like to see an orange version.
I'd also like to see another Mini Cooper, maybe red with the British flag on the top.
So they've been selling 31058 Mighty Dinosaurs for 4-5 years? That's impressive for a small set.
Anyway, I think a 70841 Benny's Space Squad rerelease with a different set of colored minifigs would sell.
I think it's a great idea. Multiple different colors of certain sets at launch, preferably.
That's pretty clearly bright light blue, I don't see how it could possibly be medium azure. Or did you mean medium blue?
@CliveyB said:
"Yellow Car! 1 point to me! (Anyone else play that game?)"
Yep, I love playing that!
They could release Poe Dameron's black X-wing on silver or white/orange... wait a minute.
It certainly isn't unheard of for toy producers to release the same model in different colours - you have to collect all the Power Rang... I mean cars, right? Someone already mentioned Hot Wheels as another example.
Smaller cars such as the Speed Champions would probably work well with different colours.
Looks like safety documents, not security documents.
And I find it hard to believe they would bother changing the color of a small set like the dinosaur. Much more likely somebody made a weird mistake generating the documents that resulted in those colors.
EDIT: So much for that theory!
Wow - Just a few weeks ago I carefully listed all the yellow elements and searched Lego to see if I could order them all in Bright Light Blue. I was very diappointed to find less than 10% availability.
I will most definitely buy the iconic Fiat 500 in the greatest colour it was manufatured in! I was quite underwhelmed at the yellow used on the original release.
I’ll happily buy the Metroliner or Airport Shuttle in whatever color LEGO chooses to release!
The Fiat now in Bad Batch shuttle blue.
LOL. Was murmuring as clicking Continue Reading, "I hope it's not another washed out..." And there it is! Was Mint Green already taken?
@LegoSonicBoy said:
"That's pretty clearly bright light blue, I don't see how it could possibly be medium azure. Or did you mean medium blue?"
I agree that it looks like bright light blue, but that would require a huge number of elements to be produced in a new colour, which is why I am hesitating.
The only set this would have made sense for was the Mini, to collect the entire Italian Job! (Should have started with one of the colours from the film, though...)
No goats? No deal. ;)
Could be sand blue
What about that set number? There haven’t been any in the range of 779**, isn’t it?
They could recolor the Colosseum to have its two - piece micro Fiat in this color.
I didn't get this because of the color. I'll get it now.
Now re-colour 42056 Porsche 911 GT3 RS in any other colour but Orange
@J0rgen said:
"The only set this would have made sense for was the Mini, to collect the entire Italian Job! (Should have started with one of the colours from the film, though...)"
Definitely. Red, White and Blue Mini Coopers would be 3 day 1 purchases for me! (with a pile of gold as a GWP)
A blue dinosaur?... not so much, although I do have 3 of the green set.
I'd love a recolored Horizon Express 10233 , I saw someone made a blue one and a red one, they both looked great.
@lemish34 said:
"Cool, but completely unnecessary and money-gouging by TLG!!
And yet many collectors will happily fork over there hard-earned money for this overpriced set ….. twice!!"
anyone that buys this and complains that they're being gouged frankly deserves to be gouged.
I really can't see how this is a bad thing? It's a cute recolour, it might appeal to some people that didn't like the yellow and meanwhile prolongs the on-sale time
@lippidp said:
"I think it's a great idea. Multiple different colors of certain sets at launch, preferably. "
I don't know. I can see a certain colour being more popular than the others. Leaving more people disappointed and more unsold boxes on the shelves.
I think a pre-order setup where you can choose your desired colour would get the most out of this idea.
I think it would be cool if LEGO re-released ships like X-wings but with different pilots included each time.
I think it's great to give us more options if we don't like the color the set first came in, I personally still prefer the yellow one but I like the idea nonetheless, I hope the Porsche gets a new color as well.
Personally I think this is pointless, especially the recolour of the Fiat 500. Why not release a totally new model instead of a lazy recolour of a car. If they are going to re-release stuff why not older stuff like Fire Brigade, Town Hall modular or even the Mini Cooper.
The dinosaur I can understand as the current model has sold very well and has been out since 2017 and probably due for retirement and I suppose a re-release is welcome by many myself included.
I'm relatively skeptical that these are real... especially because the 'new' Fiat is pictured using the old Expert branding, which LEGO isn't using for new sets. Grain of salt here, unless our fearless Brickset leaders have some inside info confirming.
Interesting to also find them under those 779xx set numbers.
And speaking of new releases, on the LEGO legal documents page you can also find conformity papers to a new 3x3 Technic Color Light matrix with item nr. 45608 and Technic Small Angular Motor 45607.
@gunther_schnitzel said:
"I misread the first sentence as ‘appalling’ instead of ‘appealing’. :)
Would love to see the Mustang released in ‘Bullitt’green."
That reminds me, i still need to figure out a purist Frank Bullitt torso to go with an unstickered 75884. A lot are close, but wrong colors or have SHIELD logos.
To be honest these images so look photoshopped to me, just very well done. Personally I'm sceptical and hopeful these won't happen.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @LegoSonicBoy said:
"That's pretty clearly bright light blue, I don't see how it could possibly be medium azure. Or did you mean medium blue?"
I agree that it looks like bright light blue, but that would require a huge number of elements to be produced in a new colour, which is why I am hesitating."
Would it also be the case for medium blue? I just can't see how this would resemble medium azure, it's so far from it.
Does anyone think this could be because of the Cool Yellow color causing production challenges/expenses and/or problems with the integrity of pieces in the color?
this definitely indicates that Lego sees the set selling for years to come and this may be a step to future-proof production
70841 Benny's Space Squad but with the team in other colours. Realistically, I don't see that happening as there are likely licensing restrictions around TLM2, but one can dream. A variant of 40516 Everyone is Awesome but with CS astronauts in the LGBT colours would be, well, awesome.
Another recolour that would appeal would be to 31120 Medieval Castle. I wrote an article about that here: https://brickset.com/article/59997/makeover-31120-medieval-castle .
31058 Mighty Dinosaurs is an excellent set. It makes lots of sense to me that it would be released with a new colour scheme. They could probably do that a couple of more times in different natural looking colours. I'd buy each one.
10194 Emerald Night in both earth blue and dark red.
@Djhorn said:
"Does anyone think this could be because of the Cool Yellow color causing production challenges/expenses and/or problems with the integrity of pieces in the color?
this definitely indicates that Lego sees the set selling for years to come and this may be a step to future-proof production "
And then there's the issue of the color differences in parts in that set that are all supposedly the same pale yellow color.
This is just weird... But, on a similar note, I just built the UCS Gunship and the amount of discolored dark red was awful. Everyone considering buying the new pickup truck in October, DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY. It will look like an absolute joke. Im not kidding whatsoever, STAY AWAY and save your money!
LEGO somehow knows that I already have three copies of 31058 AND knows that I'll buy another three, the clever sods!
Silly brick-built dinosaur\pterosaur\dragon addiction...
I see no problem with a re-color of a small, popular set like the Creator dinosaur...my son has it and loves it...but to re-release the Fiat seems somewhat silly. Does this mean the yellow is discontinued and, once sold through, all subsequent sets will be blue?
I guess it's an interesting way to breathe some new life into a set but at the same time I'm surprised it's the Fiat and not the Mustang or Porsche. In any case, I won't be double-dipping here.
The only acceptable colour switch would be to turn the Mustang into dark green a la Steve McQueen's Bullitt.
In fact, if they're really doing this, I'm surprised that's not the one they're doing since that'd actually sell.
What they should do, is release it in multiple colors when it first comes out. That way people can choose or buy two :)
@CapnRex101 said:
" @LegoSonicBoy said:
"That's pretty clearly bright light blue, I don't see how it could possibly be medium azure. Or did you mean medium blue?"
I agree that it looks like bright light blue, but that would require a huge number of elements to be produced in a new colour, which is why I am hesitating."
It would be a huge number of new parts in Bright Light blue for one set, but in the original yellow set, based on the allocated part ID numbers it appears that 32 of the 56 yellow parts were created for that set.
https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/buildinginstructions/search?q=77942
This confirms it, and Lego are calling it "light blue"
@Zander said:
"70841 Benny's Space Squad but with the team in other colours. Realistically, I don't see that happening as there are likely licensing restrictions around TLM2, but one can dream. A variant of 40516 Everyone is Awesome but with CS astronauts in the LGBT colours would be, well, awesome.
Another recolour that would appeal would be to 31120 Medieval Castle. I wrote an article about that here: https://brickset.com/article/59997/makeover-31120-medieval-castle .
"
yes please: everything is awesome with
(1) grey/gray (not just so I could use it for a resistor colour code resource- it'd be nice for Oldies to be represented)
(2) Spacepeople in many colours!
Dark Red 10194 Emerald Night
That's been a popular fan request for years now.
At least if all the parts are being made to supply the FIAT in another colour, it might also mean it's possible to build the Mini Cooper from 75894 in that colour too (since you can make a light yellow one from current parts).
I do not believe it.
Perhaps their «safety documents» purposely all (?) contain a color manipulated image - to throw conterfeiters off if the images should leak out…?
Multicolored sets are long over due. I wish we had couple more colors of T1.
And we aren't assuming this is a fake leak and they are playing tricks on you?
Seems weird to recolor that set since it is so new. Maybe if it was popular enough and it was at end of life, like the new VW Van (I know they aren't identical, but similar enough).
if this is true, i think it is really stupid and lego seriously started underestimating the consumers.
Why was this in a "safety document"? Was there some issue with the set that it needed to be mentioned?
@Astrobricks said:
"Looks like safety documents, not security documents.
And I find it hard to believe they would bother changing the color of a small set like the dinosaur. Much more likely somebody made a weird mistake generating the documents that resulted in those colors."
It is not possible for just the build image to change colors while the rest of the box art remains the same unless it's an intentional change. Also these have new set numbers and new safety documents. There is no "mistake".
@greenhorn said:
"What about that set number? There haven’t been any in the range of 779**, isn’t it?"
Previous 779** sets were made for San Diego Comic Con. So the set numbers give a hint that these re-color sets will also be limited editions, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
These aren't the first LEGO sets to be mysteriously re-released in another color - most recently the small Technic set 42031-1 was redone as 42088-1 four years later. I think the change of color is an improvement on the Fiat, especially with how many new pieces that involves, but not so much for the dinosaurs (though we don't know what color 99% of those were so it doesn't really matter)
@greenhorn: The 779XX numbering scheme was used on Comic-Con exclusive licensed sets last year, which ended up getting very limited releases online.
@gorf43: Not to excuse the bad quality control at all, but unlike the Republic Gunship, different shades of dark red would probably look just fine on a 60-year-old farm truck.
@Minifig290 said:
"To be honest these images so look photoshopped to me, just very well done. Personally I'm sceptical and hopeful these won't happen."
Yes they look like they might be photoshopped but they are sourced directly from LEGO's website so they created the images. Why do you hope they won't happen? What is the downside?
I think I prefer the yellow. Hard to tell from such a low quality picture, though.
Hope we get a better look soon (although, to be honest, I'm unlikely to buy either, as I'm not a big fan of the car).
@CapnRex101 said:
" @LegoSonicBoy said:
"That's pretty clearly bright light blue, I don't see how it could possibly be medium azure. Or did you mean medium blue?"
I agree that it looks like bright light blue, but that would require a huge number of elements to be produced in a new colour, which is why I am hesitating."
You could say the same for the bright light yellow of the "standard" Fiat, most of which were new for that set! If they were going to release a color-changed version it wouldn't surprise me if it also included a lot of new recolors, especially since if it could be made with mostly existing parts it'd arguably have less appeal than the original version.
@Lyichir
@CapnRex101 said:
" @LegoSonicBoy said:
"That's pretty clearly bright light blue, I don't see how it could possibly be medium azure. Or did you mean medium blue?"
I agree that it looks like bright light blue, but that would require a huge number of elements to be produced in a new colour, which is why I am hesitating."
The light yellow Fiat already had a lot of uniquely coloured parts, so if they stop producing the yellow one, and make everything in any blue colour, I don't see why that would be a problem. They would be saving all the production capacity otherwise spent on the yellow parts.
Does this mean we can get the new Slave 1 in Jango colors?
@iwybs said:
"Weird. Why? They seem to be flooding the market with Creator Expert cars this year. Porsche 911, VW Microbus, Pickup Truck, and now this? There was a designer interview a few years ago where Mike Psiaki said they didn't want to release more than one Creator Expert car per year because they didn't want anyone to feel like they couldn't afford to keep up with the Creator Expert car series. I guess that's changed?"
It's not just that they're flooding the market with the cars, they're flooding the market more and more with sets for adults. Adults are willing to pay for this, even for variants in differtent colours. And so the revenue stays the same or they even have a better year than the one before, and people can reply to my comments with: 'Well, there is no decline, LEGO is even doing better this year, look at the results!' But I'm a parent too, and I see that it's just not the same as when I grew up..
Not April 1st so seems reasonable.
@PicnicBasketSam said:
"These aren't the first LEGO sets to be mysteriously re-released in another color - most recently the small Technic set 42031-1 was redone as 42088-1 four years later. I think the change of color is an improvement on the Fiat, especially with how many new pieces that involves, but not so much for the dinosaurs (though we don't know what color 99% of those were so it doesn't really matter)
@greenhorn: The 779XX numbering scheme was used on Comic-Con exclusive licensed sets last year, which ended up getting very limited releases online.
@gorf43: Not to excuse the bad quality control at all, but unlike the Republic Gunship, different shades of dark red would probably look just fine on a 60-year-old farm truck.
"
Especially when you combine that look with the unused UCS Ecto 1 rust stickers! Im kinda thinking it could look good!
Either way, it won't affect me. I own the yellow version. I don't love the blue version (but if blue was first I likely would have bought it and skipped the yellow). Tough call.
But it looks like there are enough fans in this mostly negative comment section that want to buy it, so I'm guessing LEGO knows what they are doing.
As much as I'd love a recolor of the Mustang in a silver or dark green to represent other movie icons, I also don't want to rebuy the same set. Limited budget here people!!
I would totally buy a pink and lime green Saturn V.
Ok, so it seems legit because of this here : https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/buildinginstructions/77942
I don't understand why they did not update the box art, however.
I already have the creator expert mustang and love the set but further to some comments yes indeed…if LEGO rereleased the set in a bullitt dark green and without the white stripes I would buy again in a heartbeat. It would look fantastic in the garage on the shelf next to my real 2020 bullitt. Too bad the chances of it happening are slim to nil.
Typewriter in dark red, just like my Grandparent’s had.
For me there are two set that will benefit from an official recolor: 10185 Green Grocer (there are digital mock-ups in a variety of colors and they all look really good) and 10194 Emerald Night (preferably dark blue - Sapphire Night?).
@Feroz said:
" @lippidp said:
"I think it's a great idea. Multiple different colors of certain sets at launch, preferably. "
I don't know. I can see a certain colour being more popular than the others. Leaving more people disappointed and more unsold boxes on the shelves.
I think a pre-order setup where you can choose your desired colour would get the most out of this idea."
Eh, probably wouldn't matter much. I'm sure they do market research beforehand. Plus the initial production run isn't 100% of a set's lifetime production. If one color does poorly they can just pull that one from production and keep producing the other color.
This raises a lot of questions for me.
As an owner of the cool yellow FIAT, I want to know if there is ACTUALLY something wrong since this was listed as a safety issue. I see flammability is listed as a problem, is the cool yellow color more flammable? If the color is ACTUALLY more flammable shouldn't LEGO be letting us know and possibly issue a recall?
Because as it is at the moment, it honestly sounds like LEGO just wants to change the color to expand the lifespan on the sets. If not, why wait nearly 5 years to change the color on 31058 because of safety reasons?
And technically isn't all LEGO flammable, since you know, it is made of plastic? lol
@Nytmare said:
" @Astrobricks said:
"Looks like safety documents, not security documents.
And I find it hard to believe they would bother changing the color of a small set like the dinosaur. Much more likely somebody made a weird mistake generating the documents that resulted in those colors."
It is not possible for just the build image to change colors while the rest of the box art remains the same unless it's an intentional change. Also these have new set numbers and new safety documents. There is no "mistake"."
It is absolutely possible. In Photoshop and even most video editing softwares, you can select a specific shade or range of shades and pitch shift them to the desired colour, thus not affecting the rest of the box art. Also, if the main model included similar shades to the background, and the background was colour-shifted too, a mask could easily remedy the problem.
I kinda like the idea of these recolored re-releases, even if it seems a bit like filler.
reminds me of when they re-released 8942: Jetrax T6 in yellow
It's very possible that these are just photoshopped recolors for some reason.
Could they release some white wall tires? For the authentic Luigi experience.
@Kalhiki said:
"Does this mean we can get the new Slave 1 in Jango colors?"
Sorry I’m not familiar with that one, did you mean Boba Fett’s Starship?
Any chance of 42115 Lamborghini Sian in a single colour.
(I can't believe no-one else has posted this).
It’s 8942-2 all over again.
@eiffel006 said:
"Ok, so it seems legit because of this here : https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/buildinginstructions/77942
I don't understand why they did not update the box art, however."
I think you might be onto something. Interestingly enough, the (presumed) 31058 replacement has the same name, but a sequential set number of 77941 .
But, if it's due to perhaps issues (or even safety hazards) of the cool yellow color, how come the bottom jaw of the dinosaur changes to cool yellow?
https://www.lego.com/en-us/service/buildinginstructions/77941
These are still probably Photoshopped images, but mockups of real sets.
If they were to do the mustang in red (bright red) and keeping the white stripes, that would work with the movie: "I am Legend". Although the car did not have much screen time. That is a more modern version of the car but this modern version is available on Rebrickable.
To me, this just goes to show that recolour (assuming this whole story is true) and new moulds are not an issue for Lego. Whenever they want to do something, they just do it and spread the cost on the whole line up. I just don't like it when they toss that as an excuse when they don't feel like doing a new recolour or bringing back an old mould (as often requested by fans). They don't have to do these requests, but don't give a lame excuse, just say: no, we don't see economic benefit in doing this now so we won't, that's all.
Did not get the yellow one, won't get the blue one. If I had to pick, I'd take the yellow one.
A recolour on Emerald Night would be nice. Would also like a recolour of the Technic Porsche (and fixing a few other things in the process). Or they could simply redo the Piano idea in white! Blacktron in fuchsia: Fuchsiatron...
I have seen somewhere that there will be two new different mighty dinosaur: 77940 and 77941. 77941 is the blue variant, now what colour will 77940 be?
I want the volkswagen beetle 10252 in red to match my real one.
This opens up a can of worms. Any set could be recolored at any time without us knowing. Why this set? Why now?
I can hold out hope for a recolor of certain sets that may never come. But does that mean I skip the initial purchase in hopes of a new color later?
The BIONICLE fan in me adores this. There's something so cool about seeing a model in a different color pallet. It feels so fresh and sometimes alien and can bring about a lot of cool recolors for mocs.
@paulmison said:
"Is 31058 the longest-selling non-Expert Creator set? It seems to have been around since the very end of 2016, so it'll reach its fifth birthday if it's still available at the end of the year. Deservedly so, by the way: Rebrickable shows dozens of alt builds on top of the three in the set plus a fourth bonus instruction download.
Recolouring it to make it new yet keep it available seems smart (and given it's a $15 set with over 170 pieces, hardly "money-gouging")."
I have never seen mighty dinosaurs sold here for the past year and more
31058 Mighty Dinosaurs was very good for it's time of design, the ball joints are a bit clunky now, but the model is still succesful seeing how long it's been sold for.
3-in-1 is my favorite theme so getting a second of the same set in another color isn't an issue, and hopefully a start of a trend of "legacy" type sets, like how Ninjago brought back some sets from the past recently.
1: I think this is probably fake.
2: I think it is super silly.
3: I need one in either Tan or Dark Tan
"although medium azure seems more likely given the range of available elements in that colour"
All the more reason bright light blue would be much more appreciated. By me, at least.
And hey, barely any parts were available in bright light yellow before this set.
Just tried a few numbers on the find building portion of Lego.com and got hits on five set numbers in the 7794? range. There is a line of description in the search results for each number.
77940 - Mighty Dinosaurs, both of these have the same description
77941 - Mighty Dinosaurs, both of these have the same description
77942 - Fiat 500, mentions creator expert and light blue in the description so legit recolor.
77943 Fire Station Starter Set, LEGO® City
77944 Fire Station Headquarters, LEGO® City
I also copied the text of the safety documents into google translate and they look like statements of conformity to regulations concerning flammability instead of any notice of issues with a given set or color of plastic.
Great, now please give us 75060 or 75243 but in Jango's colors.
Come on, LEGO. It's been nearly TWO DECADES since 7153 . . .
@DavidBrick said:
" @lemish34 said:
"Cool, but completely unnecessary and money-gouging by TLG!!
And yet many collectors will happily fork over there hard-earned money for this overpriced set ….. twice!!"
So Lego isn't in business to make money? You don't want this overpriced set then don't buy it in either color."
Don’t worry, I won’t be!
I certainly hope LEGO makes lots of money, for decades or centuries to come!
It's obvious what's going on - they don't want to keep producing all the parts in the original colours, likely because they're harder to incorporate into other sets to justify keeping a stock on hand and a regular production slot, so in order to keep these sets going forward, they need to change the colours to a more universally-used and useful colour.
Be interesting to see if they supply the fan-prize alternate builds for 31058 (Scary Scorpion and my Dino Island Recon Plane):
https://rebrickable.com/instructions/31058-1/
You are reading too much into the 'safety' aspect of the documents. They are produced for every set as a matter of course to comply with toy regulations around the world.
The fact they exist for these recolours does not suggest the earlier versions are unsafe somehow.
@Natethegreat101 said:
"This raises a lot of questions for me.
As an owner of the cool yellow FIAT, I want to know if there is ACTUALLY something wrong since this was listed as a safety issue. I see flammability is listed as a problem, is the cool yellow color more flammable? If the color is ACTUALLY more flammable shouldn't LEGO be letting us know and possibly issue a recall?
Because as it is at the moment, it honestly sounds like LEGO just wants to change the color to expand the lifespan on the sets. If not, why wait nearly 5 years to change the color on 31058 because of safety reasons?
And technically isn't all LEGO flammable, since you know, it is made of plastic? lol"
This has nothing to do with the product not being safe. The document just shows that the product complies with certain safety regulations. Every product should have such a certificate attached.
this is certainly... unique? personally i would rather they didn't release 4 creator expert cars every year, as it makes it harder to keep up with such things. and with regards to recolours, it just seems like they're trying to make some extra cash off of people who assume a green dinosaur is a completely different set to a blue one. if these sets are a VIP series, then the dinosaur set is a strange choice for VIP's, and while the fiat makes sense. i can only assume making it something you buy with VIP points could easily send the price into $400+, which would be a slap in the face to those trying to collect all the creator expert vehicles. same issue goes for releasing 4-5 every year.
Obviously Creator and Technic vehicles would be easy to sell in other colors (10295 Porsche 911), but I would rather buy quite a few Friends sets if they only would come in normal City colors with regular minifigs and uncutified normal color animals. All that pink, purple and light blue needs to go, so that we could get a normal school (based on 41682), a pizzeria (41311), a diner (41349), surfshop (41315) or even a Circus caravan (41688).
Reminds me of the Brickish camper van competition all those years ago. I still have tic & tac (lime & orange) on display at home.
If you want it, buy it. If you don't then ignore it. What's the problem?
I wonder how long before we get "chase" Lego sets?
I feel Lego is trying to move towards a practise that is very common in the world of collectibles.
Variants / recolours / vendor exclusives may well be commonplace in the future.
@ash2907 said:
"I feel Lego is trying to move towards a practise that is very common in the world of collectibles.
Variants / recolours / vendor exclusives may well be commonplace in the future."
I suspect it’s part of a move to give consumers more choice. 76188 Classic TV Batmobile, for example, came with a choice of stud shooters or not.
@lemish34 said:
"Cool, but completely unnecessary and money-gouging by TLG!!
And yet many collectors will happily fork over there hard-earned money for this overpriced set ….. twice!!"
Also, its never not hilarious to me when people act as though collectors are required to buy every item released by LEGO.
If you dont want it, dont buy it! It's not that complicated
@ALEGOMan said:
"Lego just keep getting worse don't they?"
How do? By giving people a choice of what color a car comes in? Why is that bad? Would you prefer that makers of actual cars revert to offering each model in only a single color, too, like in the era of the Model T?
@paulmison said:
"Is 31058 the longest-selling non-Expert Creator set? It seems to have been around since the very end of 2016, so it'll reach its fifth birthday if it's still available at the end of the year. Deservedly so, by the way: Rebrickable shows dozens of alt builds on top of the three in the set plus a fourth bonus instruction download.
Recolouring it to make it new yet keep it available seems smart (and given it's a $15 set with over 170 pieces, hardly "money-gouging")."
Some of the early Architecture sets, particularly 21005 Fallingwater, on sale from 2009 to 2015, and 21006 The White House, on sale from 2010 to 2016, come to mind. There's also 21028, the New York City skyline, which has been continuously on sale since the start of 2016.
@busyman said:
"Definitely the Porsche. The white didn't do it for me, but I would like to see an orange version.
I'd also like to see another Mini Cooper, maybe red with the British flag on the top. "
Italian Job set of 3 Minis - been thinking of doing that as MOC's myself with simple black front seats and some gold in the back - wheelarch bits are scuppering it at present, as well as funds and space...
@iwybs said:
"Weird. Why? They seem to be flooding the market with Creator Expert cars this year. Porsche 911, VW Microbus, Pickup Truck, and now this? There was a designer interview a few years ago where Mike Psiaki said they didn't want to release more than one Creator Expert car per year because they didn't want anyone to feel like they couldn't afford to keep up with the Creator Expert car series. I guess that's changed?"
My thinking too, I love collecting the larger scale cars, but man...This year's got us with the 911, T2, and Truck are, and now another Fiat? I like the light blue but I already have the set, and gotta keep the budget tight and this means no Fiat 2 for me.
@Huw said:
"You are reading too much into the 'safety' aspect of the documents. They are produced for every set as a matter of course to comply with toy regulations around the world.
The fact they exist for these recolours does not suggest the earlier versions are unsafe somehow."
Facts are no hindrance to conspiracy theorists!
i hope this concept is profitable for them, then in the future they can release at the same time and you can pick what color you want. For example the new F150 is awesome, but im sick of the orange, would be nice in blue of silver.
Do we know what the (Latvian language ?) safety document actually says ... ?
Are we not sure it doesn't just say something along the lines of:
DANGER! DO NOT RELEASE SETS LIKE THIS AS IT MAY SEVERELY HARM AFOL'S WALLETS!
;-)
@iwybs said:
"Mike Psiaki said they didn't want to release more than one Creator Expert car per year because they didn't want anyone to feel like they couldn't afford to keep up with the Creator Expert car series. I guess that's changed?"
I guess that's why Mike Psiaki's a superb Lego set designer rather than a Lego accountant!
It’s probably a new colour to replace the yellow version given the various shades of the pale yellow that appears rather jarringly in the set. I don’t think it’s a new trend, just a means to increase the life of the set whilst simultaneously addressing the colour problem
@gunther_schnitzel said:
"Would love to see the Mustang released in ‘Bullitt’green."
Me too!! That would be awesome.
I wouldn't mind if they produced all of their Expert cars in multiple colors.
Well, since LEGO is re-releasing things with different colours, they should take the opportunity to re-release the "UCS" Imperial Probe Droid in either black or gunmetal grey...both of which are much better colours than dark bluish grey.
Still not for meregardless of color. Maybe it goes against popular option (not sure how many out there were hoping for a fiat to begin with), but I think the fiat is a stupid looking car. I want more classic cars like the mustang.
@Huw said:
"You are reading too much into the 'safety' aspect of the documents. They are produced for every set as a matter of course to comply with toy regulations around the world.
The fact they exist for these recolours does not suggest the earlier versions are unsafe somehow."
If this is directed at me, thanks for answering my question. I guess if anything I was just questioning if LEGO was using safety as the reason behind the change of color. And because I actually own a copy, I was legitimately concerned about whether or not there was indeed an issue. What I didn't realize is that all sets have this safety message- though I should have as most products usually do. I feel kind of dumb now. lol
I'd like to see the Harley in black with pearl silver elements throughout.
And maybe they'll do the Porsche in light yellow or blue.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @LegoSonicBoy said:
"That's pretty clearly bright light blue, I don't see how it could possibly be medium azure. Or did you mean medium blue?"
I agree that it looks like bright light blue, but that would require a huge number of elements to be produced in a new colour, which is why I am hesitating."
Given the number of new elements in Cool yellow that we saw in the original 10271 Fiat, it strikes me as an awesome way to boost the palette in bright light blue. Does this model become the 'under-represented pale shade' parts pack?
Why???
Is putting this info out there clandestinely by LEGO another amazing market “test” like, say, e-mailing a few select VIP members with codes to free LEGO stuff? :D
Pink 1989 Batmobile, please
Greedy move from Lego- reduce staff then make a greed move like this.
@lemish34 said:
"Cool, but completely unnecessary and money-gouging by TLG!!
And yet many collectors will happily fork over there hard-earned money for this overpriced set ….. twice!!"
People forget and by people I mean you and others like you and it's not an insult,
Truly it's just my opinion.
But some people tend to forget this whole thing is a hobby and a luxury that we are lucky enough to have.
It's not at all Price gouging by the lego group,
I think it's more than fair to say they release a lot of duds, in some people's eyes But other people love them.
I think the new HP collection set Is garbage,
But other people love it.
I own the yellow 500 I'm not buying the blue one it's that simple,
No one is forcing anyone to buy this stuff they're simply releasing it and if you want it buy it.
If it sells it sells, if it doesn't they retire it that's all.
I personally always welcome pieces in new colors and that's all I see this as and when inevitably it goes on deep discount I'll pick one up maybe (probably not) if I find a cool piece in a specific color I want then yeah, but that is 100% my choice as you have yours.
Just don't buy it dude, problem solved.
Great! Now release Slave I in Jango Fett colours. We need that!