2022 Star Wars sets officially announced!
Posted by CapnRex101,
Official images of two upcoming Star Wars sets have been published on LEGO.com, in advance of their release on the 1st of January.
75320 Snowtrooper Battle Pack and 75322 Hoth AT-ST both complement 75313 AT-AT. You can view images and information about them after the break...
75320 Snowtrooper Battle Pack
- 105 pieces
- £17.99, $19.99, €19.99
75322 Hoth AT-ST
- 586 pieces
- £44.99, $49.99, €49.99
Are you looking forward to these sets? Let us know in the comments.
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A battle pack with less than 2 stud shooters! Unbelievable!
Love this time of the year, seeing all the new sets getting announced!
So wonderfully timed for the AT AT release. Imagine what an army would look like…..
Oooh, love that new probe droid build!
Box Art looks really good.
There's that Battle Pack price hike.
That seems like a good value for the AT-ST, which is refreshing. I love the snow details on the Chewie minifig, and the new probe droid build!
Was not expecting the Hoth AT-ST, but I guess it makes sense with the UCS AT-AT coming out.
These look amazing, and are making the ucs at-at much more tempting, also new chewie!
@deansl1882 said:
"So wonderfully timed for the AT AT release. Imagine what an army would look like….."
I think you mean "insidious". As someone teetering on getting the AT-AT, they seem to keep sweetening the pot to an unfair amount! The GWP, these supplemental sets... oy. My poor bank account!
Unsure when I'll pick up the AT AT, but these I definitely look forward to picking up! (though on a slight discount, which inevitably will happen)
That's some retro-looking packaging there!
yay, stud shooters are gone! finally a battle pack with regular blasters! :D
Cool new box art
I really like the snowball fight aftermath Chewbacca!
These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me.
Expensive battle pack, but great new box art!
With Chewie in there, that's really an Endor AT-ST. I'm pretty sure he spent his time on Hoth fixing the MF.
Lego better be ready for a rush of orders for the battle pack from all those who bought the AT-AT.
@TitanArch said:
"That's some retro-looking packaging there! ]
Yeah, reminds me of the 2011-2013 box art"
Complimentary sets. Well played.
The hands/gloves colour though :-(
@Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
I doubt you will be the only person to feel this way, so I will take this opportunity to link information about the AT-ST constructed for Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back: https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/at-st-from-empire.238186/
That battle pack would be absolutley perfect if only it was 15 bucks instead of 20.
Also that AT-ST feels like a big misstep, especially since it can't actually take a proper step. I feel like it could've greatly benefitted from a 10-20% decrease in both scale and price.
The Fighters they released this year were big immprovement comared to previous iterations. This one just seems like a re-hash of the same old thing.
That probe-droid is great though and I like the newish boxart.
If I didn't already have an AT-ST, I would be getting this for sure. Great new Probe Droid build! I hope the quality of these sets bode well for the rest of the upcoming wave.
The AT-AT seats 40, the Battlepacks have 4 each. So you just need 10*19.99 to fill it up! Only $200 more for a grand total of 800+200=$1000
Ties into the article about how expensive is too expensive.
Definitely looking forward to these! I will be picking them both up. Very interesting to get a snowy Chewbacca and a Hoth Scout trooper! I've been looking for an Imperial AT-ST, and I'm glad that now I can get one.
@Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
As @CapnRex101 pointed out, the design of the AT-ST was changed a bit after "The Empire Strikes Back." It only appears in a single shot, and always looked a bit more gangly to me. (Though I love that we're getting that original design!)
@DoonsterBuildsLego said:
"With Chewie in there, that's really an Endor AT-ST. I'm pretty sure he spent his time on Hoth fixing the MF."
I'm addition to the AT-ST, this set includes a minifig-scale Imperial Probe Droid, along with the snow-covered version of Chewbacca that first went with Han to investigate it. (We've gotten Hoth Han Solo in the past, or someone could just put a Han Solo head in the Hoth Rebel Trooper's outfit.)
The snow-covered Chewbacca is my favorite detail in the set!
The Hoth AT-ST is my favorite Lego AT-ST to date. The previous two didn't look quite right due to the oversized boxy head and narrow hips. And yeah the Hoth AT-ST is supposed to have longer legs, but it just works out better proportionally for an AT-ST in general. Shame it still doesn't fit two figures, but the head is a bit smaller this time so it is to be expected. The head shaping and detailing is great, as well as the omission of stickers, especially for the foot detailing. A bit weird that the viewports don't open up, it looks like it's blind.
The probe droid looks like a mini version of the large set, much better than the previous builds. Snowy Chewie is nice to finally get. And that AT-ST driver appears to have white clothing. I don't think there is a canon depiction of a Hoth AT-ST driver but it is a nice variant.
Glad to see they designed the speeder bike to allow the trooper to "straddle" instead of sit. I'll pick up the battle pack on sale. Not really interested in the ST but the probe droid is really nice.
The price increase on the Battle Pack seems a rip off - priced as a 'set' not an 'army builder'. Certainly not the same level of 'upgrade' as we had with the similarly priced Speed Champions sets. Even at discount they are in a whole different category now.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
I doubt you will be the only person to feel this way, so I will take this opportunity to link information about the AT-ST constructed for Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back: https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/at-st-from-empire.238186/ "
So that makes this set a really deep-cut. Jon Favreau would be happy - he loves that kind of thing.
finally battle pack with proper weapons
Looks like it’s all Hoth all the time!
Why is the number of pieces in the box image of the battle pack different from what you guys listed right above it?
Awesome-looking sets BTW
EDIT: I see that it's been fixed, thanks. (For anyone confused about this comment.)
Who else is going to grab a nice little pile of those battle packs? They look great!
These are so infinitely much better than the marvel sets.
These look great! I have been expecting a price increase for battle packs, so this is acceptable to me: four minifigs and three mini-builds that make sense. I will be getting AT LEAST half a dozen of these. (And I don't plan to get the UCS AT-AT!) The AT-ST looks good too- finally the face is angled, rather than vertical when seen from the side.
The speeder looks identical to the ones in the UCS atat, so now it makes sense why they only included 2 lol. Time to get atleast 2 packs and full that beast up!
Who else is getting 12 of these to fill up the AT-AT?
Love these! I still don't have an AT-ST. Now is the time.
@imemine98 said:
"The AT-AT seats 40, the Battlepacks have 4 each. So you just need 10*19.99 to fill it up! Only $200 more for a grand total of 800+200=$1000
Ties into the article about how expensive is too expensive. "
I totally get the complaint, but if Lego can extract more profit from people who have $2K lying around, I hope that means they can make other lines, especially for kids, more accessible.
The only thing I’m interested in is the new probe droid, so I can add it to the large one from this year. I don’t really have room for another atst, and I don’t usually get battlepacks.
Hey look, the AT-ST has found its head! ;-)
And it doesn't even cost more.
Otoh I still have my older one (75153) which I am perfectly happy with.
These look great! Not too happy about the battle pack price increase though. £18 is pretty steep, especially when the 501st battle pack wasn't too far off that price and included more
@Padmewan said:
" @imemine98 said:
"The AT-AT seats 40, the Battlepacks have 4 each. So you just need 10*19.99 to fill it up! Only $200 more for a grand total of 800+200=$1000
Ties into the article about how expensive is too expensive. "
I totally get the complaint, but if Lego can extract more profit from people who have $2K lying around, I hope that means they can make other lines, especially for kids, more accessible."
Exactly. LEGO is implementing price discrimination by focusing on a wide range of price points, even within a single line like Star Wars. The expensive sets are getting more expensive and at the same time they're releasing cheaper and more accessible versions of popular vehicles like the X-Wing, TIE Fighter, etc.
This strategy often works in terms of creating different lanes for consumers and making sure that each group of consumers has enough products to keep it satisfied. There is no reason to think it won't be successful for LEGO as well. The problem of course is within the hardcore audiences like us who pay attention on a daily or weekly basis. Some segment of this audience naturally but mistakenly comes to believe that because we care so much, all sets must be targeted to us, when that is definitely not the case.
I can remember battle packs being $10.99 back when TRU had the chrome Stormtrooper promo. The battle pack is double what it should be.
It's a mild shame that the walker isn't one of the downscale sets, but I suppose it is a variant that they haven't done before, and it's price hasn't reached the silly highs of the pre-downscale X wings, TIEs and such. Still, as an ancillary vehicle, my preferred price would be the same as the new TIE. Looks good, but it likely another generation of this that I'll pass on.
RIP the Star Wars boxart 2019 - 2021
Battlepack looks fine but the price is a bit of rip-off
What's up the AT-ST port holes? Are they covered up? It looks so weird.. They keep changing the Rebel Soldier design too kinda annoying.
@Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
This is based upon Episode 5, what I will feel is the $50 price tag, was the RO version similarly priced? I have the 2020 AT-AT so I can't wait to complement it with these two sets.
Meh
Lmao that pile of white bricks snow mound was thrown in there to lousily justify the extra $5. The speeder and cannon are clearly in lines with $15 battle packs. 75261 Imperial Dropship was $20, had a complete little ship, and even a fifth figure. This is why I seldom buy LEGO Star Wars anymore.
$20 for 75320 somehow makes 75313 seem like a much better deal than before. 107 pieces, only four minifigures and no figure stands or other extras for $20? Even though the minifigures and builds look pretty good overall, the price is simply put exorbitant.
Your site has become so swamped with ads that it is no longer functional on mobile.
The AT-ST has the same build for the legs as the previous three. So it is still unposable, and will fall with the slightest breeze.
These are both passes for me- maybe I'll pick up the battle pack- maybe.
Can we get a size comparison with all the AT-ST's as of this current one?
I'm feeling pretty dishearted having recently bought the Sith Eternal Tie and the newest smallerscale Imperial Tie and seeing how totally different they are in size.
@Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
It's a Hoth AT-ST variant, different from the other Endor and Rogue one versions. It's legs are longer and the head is smaller.
Why do they have to make the AT-ST so tall? It is not mini-fig scale when it is that tall. I love the AT-ST in 8038 Battle of Endor... it was the perfect size.
@SlimBrick1 said:
"These sets are epic! I know Just2good doesn't like the price of the battle pack, but I think even if the piece count isn't satisfactory, I like the figures. This is the cheapest set yet with the scout trooper. As the "Razorcrest" was $160 and the advent calendar was $40. As for the AT-ST, I absolutely love the new design! I was getting tired of the endor AT-ST but this Hoth one has a different look to it and I like that. I also like the fig collection with the Hoth Rebel and Chewbacca. The new probe build is nice. And it is nice to get the imperial At-St pilot even though he isn't new I don't think. The AT-ST is also way cheap for it's piece count. Almost $10 dollars cheaper than the cost per piece ratio says it should be!
EDIT: NO STUD SHOOTERS THANK YOU LEGO!!!!!!!"
The AT-ST Driver is actually new!
It has the same helmet mould as Veers (just in dark grey) and a white overcoat.
Finally! No stud shooters!
That AT-ST... I know its just a "Malibu Stacy with NEW HAT" situation since its so similar to the last ROTJ/Rogue One styled AT-ST, and the Mandalorian Raider AT-ST after that... but dang the nerd in me is happy to see the weird little Hoth AT-ST get some love since that original Hoth AT-ST was the premier of the vehicle in just a short random shot of Empire Strikes Back, before new models were made for the more famous ROTJ scenes. So yes the nerd in me is tickled, and crap I will have to buy it just for that.
@Capslock said:
"Finally! No stud shooters!"
...except for those two different kinds of new stud shooters.
(correction: the crossbow shooter may not be new)
All about Hoth, I see!
@SendBrickPics said:
"Your site has become so swamped with ads that it is no longer functional on mobile."
Mobile user here, not sure what you're talking about. Do you not stay signed in? The only sort of annoying ad I get is the frequent/in-your-face notification requests.
Speeder bike is pretty much the same as in the big AT-AT
@CapnRex101 said:
" @Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
I doubt you will be the only person to feel this way, so I will take this opportunity to link information about the AT-ST constructed for Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back: https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/at-st-from-empire.238186/ "
wow it's awesome how in depth dave filoni goes into star wars ephemera to find old ideas and bring them to life. (this is re: the AT-DP)
@TomKazutara said:
"This looks promising,
but only one AT-ST Driver ?"
there is only place for one in the cockpit, second one would need to sit on top...
I don't think I like the box art. It makes it look like Darth Vader is a part of the set.
@Robot99 said:
" @SendBrickPics said:
"Your site has become so swamped with ads that it is no longer functional on mobile."
Mobile user here, not sure what you're talking about. Do you not stay signed in? The only sort of annoying ad I get is the frequent/in-your-face notification requests."
I just got a new phone and the first time I went to the site it was crazy how much ads and crap popped up. I signed in and poof they were all gone. It's great if you have any account but makes it annoying to send/share a link from here to a friend or someone else and know they are going to get absolutely wrecked with ads.
Back on topic of the new sets here, I wonder if this new AT-ST will scale with the new UCS AT-AT. Looking at a scale chart, the ST should be at or maybe just slightly higher than the AT's knees. Hopefully it is close! I'll probably get it either way, but that would be a nice bonus.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
I doubt you will be the only person to feel this way, so I will take this opportunity to link information about the AT-ST constructed for Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back: https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/at-st-from-empire.238186/ "
Thanks for sharing — I was curious about the weird differences, and knowing this makes the Hoth AT-ST more appealing to me. It’s essentially a concept model, not unlike ship/vehicle/creature designs used for Rebels (which I didn’t realize at the time…really wish I didn’t miss out on that run).
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! IT'S UNFAIR! HOW CAN YOU GIVE ME A $20 BATTLE PACK AND NOT GIVE ME CLOSER TO 200 PIECES?!!
So, a dozen AT-ATs, for $9,599.88. 36 seats to fill in each one, so 144 of the battle packs (I’ve seen Snowtroopers riding speederbikes, but not Scout Troopers on Hoth), for $2,878.56. And I don’t know an exact count, but there was at least one AT-ST depicted accompanying Blizzard Force in their assault on Echo Base, for $49.99. That’s a whopping $12,528.43 (plus tax, where applicable), and you still need a few hundred pounds of white brick to pose them on.
@PurpleDave said:
"So, a dozen AT-ATs, for $9,599.88. 36 seats to fill in each one, so 144 of the battle packs (I’ve seen Snowtroopers riding speederbikes, but not Scout Troopers on Hoth), for $2,878.56. And I don’t know an exact count, but there was at least one AT-ST depicted accompanying Blizzard Force in their assault on Echo Base, for $49.99. That’s a whopping $12,528.43 (plus tax, where applicable), and you still need a few hundred pounds of white brick to pose them on."
I eagerly await pictures. :p
Thank you LEGO for listening (sometimes) to the fans. No stud-shooters in battle packs, no weird generals included, just plain troops. I wonder if the heads are all different too. Nevertheless it's perfect for filling up the Imperial Walker's 40 seats!
The AT-ST from TESB is also nice since we didn't get that model before. If a Snowtrooper would have been included instead of Chewy, I would have bought it multiple times as well.
Nailed it!
When showing my wife the UCS AT-AT, she said, “They should’ve included the forty snowtroopers at that price.” And I said they’d probably have a battle pack for sale with three snowtroopers and a regular storm trooper.
Four snowtroopers would’ve been ideal, LEGO. We know it. You know it. And for $20. Shame.
SHAME!!!
$20 for battle packs now? Ouch.
Sets look great, just don't have much motivation to buy these as I already have 2 AT-ST's and plenty of snowtroopers. Great for those that missed out in the past though
@marengho said:
"Speeder bike is pretty much the same as in the big AT-AT"
Only difference I can see is the tap pieces used for the handlebars are flipped around so minifigs can actually hold them.
A+ sets on first look. No stud shooters (well, kind of on the e-web) on the battle pack. The AT-ST looks good for $50. Packaging is great.
I'd rather get two AT-ST sets and 30 battle packs than one UCS AT-AT.
I understand everyone's complaint about the price hike, however, I would like to point out that due to inflation and more importantly production costs skyrocketing this should be expected. We haven't had a price hike on battle packs since 2016 or 2017. I like this battle pack quite a bit, but my collecting is for the most part dedicated to the prequel era. I might still pick one or two up if they have a sufficient discount though.
On to the actual set build itself, I rejoice that Lego is ending there over usage of stud shooters! It only took them about 8 years. It is refreshing to see them revamp the seating on speeders. I also appreciate the candlestick element being used as a rifle extension more. Am I the only one who misses the 1x1 printed tile backpacks? The snowtrooper helmets in my opinion look odd without them.
Is that a new Rebel base I smell?
83 comments in and no one has gone off on a rant that the Rebel Trooper is a she and not a he....
@Virgilnz said:
"83 comments in and no one has gone off on a rant that the Rebel Trooper is a she and not a he...."
Oh how dare they! I am deeply offended by the destruction of my head cannon I made up that said no women could exist in Star Wars!
/s
(Please note - this comment was 100% sarcastic and not a serious representation of my thoughts and beliefs)
It was only a few years ago that a battle pack with 4 troopers and 100+ pieces cost just $10. How the times have changed.
$20 for Battle Packs is high. But look at some of Hasbro's toy prices. Someday we'll be looking at $25-$30 for Battle Packs.
Wonder what the clips are for on the front feet is the AT-ST.
I'm loving adding a candle piece in black as a gun barrel. Very nice
Is this our first Hoth Biker Scout? Like piece used for the tripod legs. Think it was first in Atlantis. See the shooter piece is the same in the Infinity Saga Iron Man repulser hand
I don't even collect STAR WARS LEGO, but these sets really tempt me to build a mix-arms Imperial battle group. Very cool...
2021 was a pretty weak year for LEGO Star Wars. However, these sets give me hope for 2022: A battle pack with three identical figures, normal blasters and no boring officer! A fresh and very accurate AT-ST! Both of them will go so well next to the UCS AT-AT and I can't wait to fill that set with snowtroopers! Also, the shape of the AT-ST is almost spot on! I also love the new minifigs. The Hoth variants of the scout trooper and driver look interesting, though I am not sure they are canon. The snowy Chewbacca is such a pleasant surprise! LEGO definitely weren't lazy with that figure!
Glad to see a battle pack with minifigs that make sense in a battle pack. Not glad to see the 20 bucks price tag. Still waiting for the rumored "accessory packs".
The sets look neat, but I'll have to wait for a sale with these new prices (or skip altogether). I'd love to have a small army of snowboys.
Love the Battle Pack, but is it really worth $30 AUD? Regardless I do like the minifigures, so I might get one.
Unfortunately, I don’t have much care for the AT-ST: I think the 2016 one is as good as it can can get. It’s not bad overall, but I don’t think I’ll get it.
Also, are they still doing ‘affordable scale’? By the looks of it, The AT-ST seems to be regular minifig scale.
@PurpleDave said:
"So, a dozen AT-ATs, for $9,599.88. 36 seats to fill in each one, so 144 of the battle packs (I’ve seen Snowtroopers riding speederbikes, but not Scout Troopers on Hoth), for $2,878.56. And I don’t know an exact count, but there was at least one AT-ST depicted accompanying Blizzard Force in their assault on Echo Base, for $49.99. That’s a whopping $12,528.43 (plus tax, where applicable), and you still need a few hundred pounds of white brick to pose them on."
Otoh, if your Photoshop skills are good enough, you only need one of each set ;-)
@RaiderOfTheLostBrick said:
"Also, are they still doing ‘affordable scale’? By the looks of it, The AT-ST seems to be regular minifig scale."
It looks to be roughly the same size as the last 2 but quite a bit cheaper. $120NZD for the Mandalorian raider one, $90 for this new hoth version.
Battlepack straight on the wishlist, proper weaponry instead of studshooters
@RaiderOfTheLostBrick said:
"Love the Battle Pack, but is it really worth $30 AUD? Regardless I do like the minifigures, so I might get one.
Unfortunately, I don’t have much care for the AT-ST: I think the 2016 one is as good as it can can get. It’s not bad overall, but I don’t think I’ll get it.
Also, are they still doing ‘affordable scale’? By the looks of it, The AT-ST seems to be regular minifig scale."
I mean, the "affordable scale" X-wing was the closest we have ever gotten to a minifig-scale one :p
Wow these actually look pretty high quality, huh? I'm excited for this upcoming wave, I kinda felt like 2021 was a little lackluster on the Star Wars front excluding some of the UCSs.
Also, is 2022 gonna be the final year of Lego Star Wars? I remember reading something back in the day that said that the original license would expire after that year. It sounded light-years away back then
While I think the proportions of the AT-ST look a little silly, the proportions of the actual AT-STs were always silly anyway, I think the price drop is worth it for those that don't already own a previous one.
So around 8 or 9 battle packs to fully seat troopers in the UCS AT-AT? Rawr. Plus of course a few extra packs to display an attack force deployed from another "off camera" walker. Ah duh! So where do I sign in blood for my copies?!?!?!?!
@Virgilnz said:
"83 comments in and no one has gone off on a rant that the Rebel Trooper is a she and not a he...."
Difference here is that’s not an $800US collector’s set aiming for 100% accuracy. Chewbacca doesn’t really belong there either but play sets have never been the most accurate. Also female rebels are much more believable.
The rants in regards were the AT-AT were almost entirely because it’s not accurate to the movie, and when you’re spending that much money on lego you want it to be accurate. Most Star Wars fans aren’t the sexist racists people like you try to paint us as.
@DoonsterBuildsLego:
Nah, Han took him out to play in the snow for a bit earlier in the movie, but yes, during the actual battle, he was getting his fur full of grease and motor oil (just imagine the shampoo bill...).
@_add_um:
I got the impression that they weren’t glassed in, so opening them is like rolling down your car window. I may occasionally crank the heat and pop the moon roof open in near-freezing temps, but not when it gets to Hoth-like lows.
@B_Space_Man:
As will I. I’m not really interested in selling my condo right now...
@Virgilnz:
Of course not. The Rebel forces included multiple genders, races, even species. We could actually see that in the films.
@OldschoolFan74:
I think this might be the first winter-ized Scout Trooper, but I also don’t remember seeing any on Hoth, even in the SE version. I do remember seeing a depiction of a Snowtrooper riding a white speeder bike _somewhere_, but I can’t remember in what context that was.
The double-barreled pistol came from the ADU forces in the Alien Conquest theme, I believe, and they look inappropriate in this build. Regular revolvers would make more sense, since the E-Web tripod didn’t have a spare set of legs perched above the main ones, like shark teeth waiting in line to replace them in case they fall off.
@AustinPowers:
Not mine, but there is a guy in my LUG who did that with all his National Guard troops all over his basement floor for April Fool’s one year.
@Psychic_Tempest_Zero:
The LSW license has expired a few times already. Funny thing is, it makes enough money that they keep renewing it.
@marengho said:
"Speeder bike is pretty much the same as in the big AT-AT"
I checked for that, too... and noticed that they might actually BE identical, but that CapnRex might not have been paying 100% attention to the sub-build instructions, and has gotten the side panels upside-down
Speaking of AT-ST’s I have 75153 which is a pretty good design. The only problem is the tendency for the head to fall forward. Does anyone know of an minimal retrofit that would fix the issue? I imagine it would be something similar to the newer Mandalorian walker leg connection.
I like both sets. I just wish the snowtrooper battle pack included a snowtrooper officer but I suppose they want it to be exclusive to the UCS AT-AT. The inclusion of the Hoth scout trooper really is awesome though.
@Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
There's a couple differences becuase this was a Hoth AT-ST, the legs are longer (as you noted), the head is differetly shaped, the weapons are bulkier and the eye-holes are shielded over.
@Brikkyy13 said:
" @Virgilnz said:
"83 comments in and no one has gone off on a rant that the Rebel Trooper is a she and not a he...."
Difference here is that’s not an $800US collector’s set aiming for 100% accuracy. Chewbacca doesn’t really belong there either but play sets have never been the most accurate. Also female rebels are much more believable.
The rants in regards were the AT-AT were almost entirely because it’s not accurate to the movie, and when you’re spending that much money on lego you want it to be accurate. Most Star Wars fans aren’t the sexist racists people like you try to paint us as."
Ah nope, everyone who made a thing of it painted themselves as sexiest racists..not people like 'us' what ever us implies..
Ill probably get the AT ST as I obviously dont have the Hoth version, but its just... boring. Hard to get excited about OT sets anymore.
@Targellian said:
" @marengho said:
"Speeder bike is pretty much the same as in the big AT-AT"
I checked for that, too... and noticed that they might actually BE identical, but that CapnRex might not have been paying 100% attention to the sub-build instructions, and has gotten the side panels upside-down"
Having checked the instruction manual, the speeder bikes in 75313 AT-AT were assembled correctly, so their side panels are upside down when compared with those here. Moreover, the hand grips are reversed.
These differences are strange because the designs were probably supposed to be identical and I think the version from 75320 Snowtrooper Battle Pack looks better. Maybe there was an error in the instruction manual and official images for the AT-AT.
Hooray, more guns and violence! Truly Star Wars is an essential contribution to ethical toymaking! Happy holidays!
@Virgilnz said:
" @Brikkyy13 said:
" @Virgilnz said:
"83 comments in and no one has gone off on a rant that the Rebel Trooper is a she and not a he...."
Difference here is that’s not an $800US collector’s set aiming for 100% accuracy. Chewbacca doesn’t really belong there either but play sets have never been the most accurate. Also female rebels are much more believable.
The rants in regards were the AT-AT were almost entirely because it’s not accurate to the movie, and when you’re spending that much money on lego you want it to be accurate. Most Star Wars fans aren’t the sexist racists people like you try to paint us as."
Ah nope, everyone who made a thing of it painted themselves as sexiest racists..not people like 'us' what ever us implies.."
Those comments were all talking about accuracy, a decent amount of them acknowledged that diverse figure parts is a good thing but that set wasn’t the one to put the parts in. People like YOU chose to ignore the legitimate arguments, because apparently accuracy in a $1000 set can go out the window when forced diversity is involved.
Ridiculous price hike. And for those saying "iNfLaTiOn" next time actually try putting the price of the 2007 battlepacks into an inflation calculator first before you go rush to defend your right to give a corporation more of your money
Finally some Star Wars sets I won't be buying. Don't get me wrong, they look great. But I already have 3 AT-ST's and $20 for a battle pack is ludicrous, especially when I already own an AT-AT-load of snowtroopers! Does this mean that I may have finally reached the point where I have so much Star Wars that I no longer need to add to my collection? Or does it just mean Lego needs to offer more than just OT sets?
Toooootally on board w/that Battle Pack, even w/'the hike' (which I suspect is more to do w/licensing...could be wrong).
@PurpleDave:
Yeah, first time I saw a Speeder Bike on Hoth, was in a ESB video game (on the NES I think),and it was piloted (ridden?) by a Snowtrooper. Now, what TLG (and possible 'the big D') fail to realize is: Scout Trooper armor=increased mobility (at the cost of some protection, see SW: RPG for rules:)), while Snowtrooper armor=protection from an 'element' (freakin' freezin' cold...:))...still, your 'layout' idea sounds incredible, add Snowspeeders on wires/strings circling the AT-ATs and it'd be a showstopper...
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@Elrond said:
"I just wish the snowtrooper battle pack included a snowtrooper officer"
Don't listen to them, TLG! They know not what they saaaaaay!
(psst Elrond, there are lots of LSW AFOLS on here who have campaigned/complained tirelessly for years for the exclusion of officer/character minifigs in battlepacks because you end up with too many of them when you army build. Just looking out for your personal safety here :D )
@ahughwilliams said:
"wow it's awesome how in depth dave filoni goes into star wars ephemera to find old ideas and bring them to life. (this is re: the AT-DP)"
Crediting Filoni for every deep cut (or Favreau like another poster above) is really disrespectful to the work of hundreds of artists, designers, and other production members who create these shows. This F&F hero-worship is starting to get pretty cringe.
i wish we got something more like a sized down assault on both instead of just a battle pack and a vehicle.
@Galaktek said:
"Hooray, more guns and violence! Truly Star Wars is an essential contribution to ethical toymaking! Happy holidays!"
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@ComfySofa said:
" @Elrond said:
"I just wish the snowtrooper battle pack included a snowtrooper officer"
Don't listen to them, TLG! They know not what they saaaaaay!
(psst Elrond, there are lots of LSW AFOLS on here who have campaigned/complained tirelessly for years for the exclusion of officer/character minifigs in battlepacks because you end up with too many of them when you army build. Just looking out for your personal safety here :D )"
You do realize that a snow trooper commander would actually make sense in this setting right? First of all for a large diorama, no one would be able to see the little blue dot on the chest of the figure. Also if the imperial system of military is similar to the republic system, there are 4-5 people in a squad, so it would make sense to have 1 commander per 3/4 regular troops. Also the scout is completely inaccurate to the film, so…
I’m all about that Hoth, about that Hoth, no Endor.
I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the legs are as minimally articulated as the previous AT-ST's of this scale :(
thinking about that battlepack as for the at-st im skipping.
Ooh, so excited for these sets! Personally I have none of the figures or the builds (I have an extremely limited Star Wars collection) so this is a perfect opportunity for me to expand my collection with some Star Wars staples: a walker, a speeder and a bunch of darn good figures! The AT-ST is surprising accurate to its source material! Will definitely be a day one pickup for me, maybe the Hoth Battlepack too albeit at a discount.
That battle pack is near perfect. Three grunts, one officer, and no named characters -- a perfect Army builder as conceived. Yet they have to shoot themselves in the foot with the pricing once again. I'd buy a ton of these, on clearance, for less than $15. Zero at MSRP and thus none from Lego. That's just too much. At some point, you have to send the only message they understand, and that's with your wallet.
I'm so happy to not have stud shooters for once and to get the same speeder as in the UCS At At since I probably won't be able to buy it, but even though it makes sense, I'm not super excited about the 5 dollar price jump. The At St is definitely different, but it is very accurate with some great figs and a good price per piece. I will definitely pick these up to go with my summer 2020 At At and maybe even build a hoth moc. I will say that the new box style looks pretty good and gives me kind of a retro style. Overall these look pretty good and I'm excited to see the rest of the wave.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @Decimus said:
"These are very exciting sets to see, but there just seems to be something very wrong about that AT-ST. The legs don't look right and the proportions seem off. Could be me. "
I doubt you will be the only person to feel this way, so I will take this opportunity to link information about the AT-ST constructed for Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back: https://www.therpf.com/forums/threads/at-st-from-empire.238186/ "
Wow, that's genuinely really cool to see. I had no idea they were such different designs. Also I got a reply from THE CapnRex101, what a day.
@Cooliocdawg:
It’s a Snowtrooper Commander, not a Snowtrooper Corporal. Veers is a General, indicating the ranks probably follow those of the US Army. There is no Army rank of Commander (that’s typically a Navy rank), but the officer in charge of a large military unit is often informally referred to as a “(unit) Commander”. With 40 ground troops per AT-AT, each squad would probably have a Snowtrooper Corporal, and each AT-AT would probably have a few Snowtrooper Sergeants and one Snowtrooper Lieutenant. With 12 AT-ATs, the combined ground troops would number 480, which is on the high end for a Company, and for a prestigious unit like Blizzard Force (Veers hand-picked the commanding officer for each AT-AT), there would probably be one Snowtrooper Captain in command of the ground forces for the entire assault force. That’d be the guy who was standing behind Veers in the lead AT-AT’s cockpit. Since each AT-AT comes with one Snowtrooper Commander, and there are only two ranks indicated, I’d probably head-swap every Veers minifig save one, and count the Snowtrooper Commander in every other AT-AT as being a First Lieutenant ranked under the Captain who answers directly to Veers.
For anyone who would like a side-by-side comparison on how different the Hoth AT-ST is from the ones on Endor, this prop model photo shows just how accurate the new Lego set is (the original Kenner AT-ST was also based off it):
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51688207538_6eb0966be0_c.jpg
@YoureOnlyYoungTwice:
I was about to comment on the Kenner version, but then I realized that’s not actually a toy. I assume what we’re looking at is Endor on the left and Hoth on the right?
OK, here we go, here come those Snowtroopers that should have been inside new ucs AT-AT set by default given its price! Do I care about the price though? - Not at all, shut up and take my money Lego, keep those awesome ucs sets comin'! Just gimme more tasty content no matter the price!
If you want a non star wars walker, you can still get 31115 , it has some funky alternate build.
The price increase on the Battle Pack blows but I always wait until it's marked down 20% by Amazon or Walmart, whichever is first. Everyone who runs out and buys up-priced sets within the first month is signalling to the company that you're okay with their price hikes.
I understand that inflation is real and the price of everything is going up. At the same time, MANY companies are raising the prices of products anticipatory of more inflation. Have some patience and wait for a price drop on non-essentials.
@Cooliocdawg said:
" @ComfySofa said:
" @Elrond said:
"I just wish the snowtrooper battle pack included a snowtrooper officer"
Don't listen to them, TLG! They know not what they saaaaaay!
(psst Elrond, there are lots of LSW AFOLS on here who have campaigned/complained tirelessly for years for the exclusion of officer/character minifigs in battlepacks because you end up with too many of them when you army build. Just looking out for your personal safety here :D )"
You do realize that a snow trooper commander would actually make sense in this setting right? First of all for a large diorama, no one would be able to see the little blue dot on the chest of the figure. Also if the imperial system of military is similar to the republic system, there are 4-5 people in a squad, so it would make sense to have 1 commander per 3/4 regular troops. Also the scout is completely inaccurate to the film, so…"
I concede to your superior knowledge! That'll teach me to pretend I know what I'm talking about ;)
@PurpleDave said:
" @YoureOnlyYoungTwice:
I was about to comment on the Kenner version, but then I realized that’s not actually a toy. I assume what we’re looking at is Endor on the left and Hoth on the right?"
Yup!
Love it! What else can I say?
@graymattr said:
"The price increase on the Battle Pack blows but I always wait until it's marked down 20% by Amazon or Walmart, whichever is first. Everyone who runs out and buys up-priced sets within the first month is signalling to the company that you're okay with their price hikes.
I understand that inflation is real and the price of everything is going up. At the same time, MANY companies are raising the prices of products anticipatory of more inflation. Have some patience and wait for a price drop on non-essentials. "
I don't consider a Snowtrooper battle pack "non-essential"! :)
Snow Scout Trooper I’m sold.
@YoureOnlyYoungTwice:
I’m remembering two odd things about the Kenner AT-ST, which my brother owned when we were kids. One is that they made the chin gun asymmetrical (one barrel was higher, and one barrel was longer) while the cheek guns were symmetrical (they both were multi-barrel designs, where this one has a grenade launcher on the right cheek). The other is that Kenner had what was probably one of their best features ever on the AT-ST. The frame between the legs functioned as a handle of a sorts. There was a thumb button in the top center that would cause the legs to reciprocate up and down. And there was a slider on the back that would trim this function about halfway so the feet were even with each other and the AT-ST could stand freely.
Seriously hoping the headpieces under the Snowtroopers will all be different. I have 20 each of the Stormtroopers which came in the Imperial Marauder and a further 10 more which came in the TIE Fighter from this year to make 50. It would be great to mix and match them all if they're different. Pro diversity! ;)
@PurpleDave said:
" @YoureOnlyYoungTwice:
I’m remembering two odd things about the Kenner AT-ST, which my brother owned when we were kids. One is that they made the chin gun asymmetrical (one barrel was higher, and one barrel was longer) while the cheek guns were symmetrical (they both were multi-barrel designs, where this one has a grenade launcher on the right cheek). The other is that Kenner had what was probably one of their best features ever on the AT-ST. The frame between the legs functioned as a handle of a sorts. There was a thumb button in the top center that would cause the legs to reciprocate up and down. And there was a slider on the back that would trim this function about halfway so the feet were even with each other and the AT-ST could stand freely."
Still got our one in the garage :) One day I'm hoping my son will appreciate the 'chicken walker'. Back then we had no idea it was called an AT-ST...
So why no UCS AT-ST at the same scale as the UCS AT-AT. I don’t buy the “play sets” for this very reason as I’m all about the UCS and big Technic sets (Chiron, 911, Sian, etc.). This set is going to look like a toy next to the UCS AT-AT.
@GunshipVP_aol_com:
Some vehicles, like the Falcon, AT-AT, Imperial Shuttle, and Slave I were depicted as being big enough to be unwieldy for kids to play with at minifig-scale, and prohibitively expensive for parents to buy for their pre-teen kids. When they get UCS sets, they’re minifig-scale because that’s actually an option in this case.
The Snowspeeder fits under one of these feet, and the now-standard design might even be too big. To do it as a UCS set, it has to be big enough for a pair of wampas to lounge in. The AT-ST set that’s just been announced is probably close to minifig-scale, but short of making scaled-down LEGO bricks, there’s not much you can do to UCS it up properly. For that, it needs to be closer to the same height as this, which again is a comfy dorm room for wampas. The UCS X-Wings are scaled to Technic figs, and the “runty” X-Wing that just came out this year is actually the first to be fairly accurately scaled to minifigs. Conversely, stuff like the ISD, SSD, and Death Star would be so large in real life that any minifig-scale set would need to be built in zero-G. UCS isn’t about being minifig-scale. It’s about being as detailed as possible at a scale that makes the model large enough to really appreciate the design as a display model rather than a toy.
Why are Star Wars sets the most expensive?
I would've thought that Lego would release the Hoth AT-ST in the same way they released the AT-AT model, a lot bigger and more pieces.
I like these new rectangular stud shooters. Look stylish!
Now looking forward to the battle packs of the opposing party: Hoth rebel troops!