Review: 42143 Ferrari Daytona SP3
Posted by Huw,
42143 Ferrari Daytona SP3 is the latest in what LEGO is now calling the Technic Ultimate Car Concept series, and it's perhaps surprising that it's taken six years for the range to include a Ferrari given the long history of collaboration between the Danish toy company and the Italian car manufacturer.
The real vehicle was revealed late last year and a total of 599 of them are currently under construction. Development of the model was therefore carried out in parallel with that of the real car.
Summary
42143 Ferrari Daytona SP3, 3,778 pieces.
£389.99 / $449.99 / €449.99 | 10.3p/11.9c/11.9c per piece.
Buy at LEGO.com »
The ultimate Technic set: it looks superb and is packed with functionality
- Challenging build
- No expense spared
- No stickers, everything is printed
- Fancy packaging
- Instructions could be clearer in places
- Wing mirrors flap about a bit
The set was provided for review by LEGO. All opinions expressed are those of the author.
The prototype
The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!
The bodywork styling appears to be a perfect match for the shapes and angles of Technic panels.
Packaging
The box is unlike any other: it has unusual proportions and a partially glossy lift-off lid that has a cut-off corner at the back.
Its design is very minimalist and all the boring stuff like barcodes and copyright information is confined to the bottom which helps give it a premium appearance.
Lifting the lid reveals three inner boxes which are printed to look like the back of the car.
You are therefore never confronted with all the bags containing the total of 3,778 pieces at once.
Box one is the heaviest, on account of it housing the instructions, which are provided in two books. They are securely packaged so should not move about in transit.
Underneath are the parts for the first section of the build.
The books contain a combined total of over 800 pages and 1,267 construction steps. Book one is prefaced with around 30 pages of information about Ferrari, the real car, and the design process of both it and the model.
A coffee-table hardback book called The Sense of Perfection will also be available from June which covers these subjects in much more depth. I have a copy, and it will be the subject of a future review.
The completed model
Like the other cars in the series it's modelled at a scale of 1:8. It's about 60cm long and 25cm wide.
Construction is of course predominately Technic-based, but System parts are used where needed, in particular to create the distinctive fins at the front and rear.
All of the decorated elements are printed -- yes, all of them, including the accompanying UCS-style plaque, and we should rightly question why that is not the case in large Star Wars sets given it's been possible here. The answer is of course penny-pinching: there is no evidence of that here, though. It's truly a premium set, and no expense has been spared.
Designer Uwe Wabra has utilised a few unorthodox techniques to create the curvaceous bodywork, including pieces held in place with nothing more than flexi-cables above the rear wheels.
Nevertheless, he has nailed it: this must surely be the most complex body shape ever tackled in a Technic set, but the majority of the bodywork is seamless and showcases just what possible without needing to create a lot of specialised parts.
The book The Sense of Perfection reveals that a total of nine new elements were designed for this model although the majority of them have appeared already in other 2022 sets. The most obvious ones that haven't are the tyres and wheels, which come in left- and right-hand versions. They are drum lacquered silver and look exquisite.
Functionality
The model is not just all good looks: there's an 8-speed gearbox, suspension and steering packed into the chassis. The workings of the gearbox can be examined from the base of the car.
As usual, though, the actual effect of it is negligible: the barely-visible pistons of the V12 engine move at a slightly different rate when it's pushed along the table.
Gears are changed using a stick in the central column for selecting forward, neutral or reverse, and by using the paddles either side of the steering wheel. Gear changes are smooth and positive.
Like the real car, the roof can be removed to access the interior which, I am glad to see, has contrasting leather seats rather than black ones.
The doors swing open -- I think they call them 'butterfly doors' -- although they don't leave much of a gap to access the cabin.
The mechanism that controls their movement is incredibly complex but works well.
The bonnet opens to reveal an empty space. Unlike other cars in the series this one does not come with a custom piece of luggage to go in it.
The printed tile on the left-hand side shows a unique serial number (that I've edited out) that can be used to unlock exclusive owner's content on LEGO.com. I've no idea what as it's not available yet.
New parts
The book The Sense of Perfection includes an interview with element designer Esmee Kuenen, and it's stated there that there are nine new parts in the set, although some of them have appeared in 1HY 2022 sets already.
I don't think these new gears are counted among them, though. They are used in the differential, as you will see in a picture below. They are big and chunky and presumably offer more strength than existing gears.
The two blue gears are new this year, having first been seen in 42140 App-Controlled Transformation Vehicle. They are largely functionally equivalent to the older ones on the right and I have no idea why it was felt necessary to produce them. There are none of the other style in the set.
The panels at the top are new, and the curved piece below, 80286 SHELL 5X1X2, W/ CROSS HOLE, made its debut earlier this year.
A 3-long version of it makes its debut here, in red and black, and the panel below, 80268 RIGHT PANEL 5X7 W/ CUT OUT, NO. 1 and its left-hand counterpart, were designed for this set but have appeared elsewhere already.
The wheel arches are new: it seems that every new large-scale car requires a slightly different design of them.
The final piece that was designed for the set but which has also been used in others already is the apostrophe piece, 89679 PANEL 2X1X1, NO. 1, new here in red and black.
There are plenty of recolours included as well, most notably this connector piece which has only been produced in light grey until now.
Construction
The gearbox is incredibly complex but actually quite straightforward to build, thanks in part to the use of the large frames which make sure it's all held together securely during construction: you are never left with dangling axles and gears that slip off when you tip it, as has been the case with some of the earlier models.
The rear axle incorporates the differential that utilises the new chunky yellow gears. The larger one clips onto the grey differential housing 65414 DIFFERENTIALE 3M, NO. 1 and the whole assembly fits neatly in a 5x7 frame. The shock absorbers are also new this year, having first been used in 42130 BMW M 1000 RR where they appeared with a blue spring.
The V12 engine is positioned above the gearbox.
Once all the bags of parts in box one are exhausted, the chassis and its mechanical complexities are in place, so attention can turn to the bodywork.
The front of the car is built as a subassembly that is also very complex, with pieces held on at all manner of angles using ingenious techniques.
The rear section is equally complex!
Nothing about the build is straightforward: even the seats are more complicated than anticipated.
You may notice in this and other photos that I positioned the top 1x5 beam with printed Ferrari logo on them backwards. I obviously didn't!
The butterfly doors are perhaps the most difficult section of the build, partly because it's not crystal clear in the instructions what connects to what when it comes to mounting them on the car.
The penultimate section to be built is the rear assembly, which is constructed primarily from System elements to form the distinctive fins.
Finally, the removable roof completes the build.
Verdict
This is an exceptional Technic model. It looks beautiful from every angle and very much like the real car which, as I said at the start, looks as if it was designed with the shape of Technic panels in mind. Some cars are better suited to being modelled in Technic than others and this one, despite its curves, is one of them.
Not only does it look great, it also packs in a lot of functionality, although arguably most of it -- the gearbox in particular -- is superfluous given its miniscule effect on the operation of the model. But, it's good to know it's there and that you built it and, unlike earlier cars in the series, you can actually see what's going on by looking underneath.
If you value aesthetics above functionality you will not find a better Technic set, and you will definitely not find a more complex and challenging one to build.
You will also not find many other sets where it's apparent that no expense has been spared: the packaging is attractive and -- I've not yet mentioned -- big enough to be used to store the completed model in, and there's not a sticker in sight. If the Technic team can produce models where every piece is printed you have to question why that is not the norm for all premium adult-oriented sets.
When it goes on sale next month at LEGO.com it will cost $399.99, €399.99, £349.99 which in most markets is the same as 2020's 42115 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37, which has fewer pieces, so on that basis I will not quibble about the price.
So, this is not only a Technic Ultimate Car but also the ultimate Technic model, and it's hard to find fault with it. If you're looking for a very challenging build and a superb display model you need look no further.
Comparison shots
Here it is side-by side with 42115 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37 from 2020:
With 42083 Bugatti Chiron from 2018:
With the first in the series, 42056 Porsche 911 GT3 RS from 2016.
Sorry, my photography table is not big enough to line all four up on!
Addendum
RacingBrick has just published a great video review of the set in which he has pointed out two errors in the instructions. One concerns the sequencing of the gearbox, which is only really noticeable when using a motor to test it, and the other to two apparently leftover parts, small black panels 21 and 22.
On finding them spare at the end of the build I double-checked the instructions but could not see where they went. It turns out that they are missing from the instructions entirely, although it is obvious where they go when you turn the car over. They are therefore omitted from my photos as well although, thanks to RacingBrick, they are now attached to my model.
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The side by side really tell the full story, I agree with this being the best technic car in the series (so far). It looks great.
This looks fantastic - I am seriously impressed. Hats off to the designer, LEGO have completely nailed this one.
I never thought I'd say it, but we're now getting to a point where Technic vehicles are starting to look better than Creator sets constructed with mainly System elements.
@pawelg , I have to disagree about 'style over function'. It has both, but the nature of the vehicle mean it's never going to have functions that are as fun and interesting to operate as those in, say, a crane.
At least it does not incorporate Control+!
It's a remarkable set. I think I'd respectfully disagree (slightly) with the eminent DrDave - the Creator Mustang is the best looking LEGO car I've ever seen. This one's considerably harder to build though - the doors, and particularly the rear end are more than a little frustrating!
Worth it when it's finished though.
Nice to see the 14-tooth gear as a new design.
I fear the Technic "Ultimate Car Concept" series is becoming quite formulaic (arguably the whole theme has). Whilst this looks superb and is undoubtedly an exceptional set, the chassis and functional elements are basically the same as those on the Bugatti that were then optimised on the Lamborghini.
This one also doesn't have the "extra" feature those had with their moveable rear spoilers. At least this Ferrari has no stickered parts, a new crown wheel, the new spring-dampers and the price hasn't gone up since the Lamborghini, that is commendable.
Well done to Lego for doing such a superb job but this doesn't present me with the same feeling of innovation that I felt with the Porsche. Maybe Lego should let the series lie after this one.
i would like to see it pictured with the old Racers 599 and Enzo models though.
Is it me or are the wheels very noticeably out of proportion. + Still not a Technic set
Thanks for the cool review, as usual Uwe Wabra outdone himself again.
But, from past experience I'll wait for all the color inconsistencies and instruction manual corrections to be implemented, before I buy the set at a minimum 35% discount.
P.S. Pull out the pitch forks Star Wars fans because TLG apparently CAN print UCS plaques after all.
@CCC said:
"No expense spared ... I'd hope not at that price. It does look great, but that collection of four "toy cars" comes in at about £1300 and probably closer to £1600 if you wanted to buy them all now.
They have obviously spotted there is a market for the high priced but well designed performance cars and good to see they are doing it properly, printing parts instead of relying on stickers. For such a high end set, stickers peeling off after a few years or worse, getting crumpled in the box before they are even applied, is just not on."
Just on the price. History has shown us these sets seem to be discounted by up to a third within very short order. You’d want to be really impatient to pay full RRP.
Not so much good, as the best of a bad bunch. Technic really doesn't suit supercars... give me 4x4s, bulldozers and tow trucks any day. I'll stick with Creator Expert for this sort of thing. (Hoping the Camaro will be good!)
It certainly looks impressive, with fewer gaps than its predecessors.
Having built two of the previous ones I'm definitely not buying another one. As impressive an engineering feat as it is, I found the building experience disappointing. While building the gearbox it's impossible to tell what's what. Eventually you have a compact box with moving gears with little visible function. Next you spend hours on putting panels on a chassis to completely hide all the gears.
For the same money you can also get Creator 911 + VW Van + Vespa. Or Ecto-1 + DeLorean with cash to spare. No brainer for me...
God damn it!
My bloody wallet can’t cope with all this. It’s like it’s permanently on a weight loss program
Musthave!!!
I can't believe they moulded 2 different wheels. That's so extravagant.
The plaque should really just show the price of the set, as that's what many will be keen to show off!
Then you clearly haven't seen any used UCS sets and how the sticker looks like after being exposed to room climate conditions.
Just place a sticker over the sprue mark if it's really bothering you. A Ferrari logo might be fitting here.
So do the front wheels have a differential too? So is it 4WD?
It looks fantastic! Truly impressed by the seamless shapes, curves and whole bodywork.
I don’t understand ”glass” for the engine but Not a windshield piece. I know… it’s Technic.
I love the article "The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!"
Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?
Wow they nailed the styling!
Too bad the styling is a formless blob. The F-40 is still the GOAT.
Really interested in the serial number! Will you post a follow-up article regarding what it is?
I like it, but I don't like it 400 Euro much. Seeing as how these models go for about half this much about one or 2 years later I'll wait and see if it still interests me this much by then.
So judging on the review of RacingBricks on Youtube:
- it does only have a rear differential
- the gearbox is pretty much similar to the one of the Lamborghini Sian
- some errors in the instructions like 2 unused panels that appearantly go on two bare axles
This looks like a nightmare to put together.
@huw wrote:
“When it goes on sale next month at LEGO.com it will cost $399.99, €399.99, £349.99 which in most markets is the same as 2020's 42115 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37, which has fewer pieces, so on that basis I will not quibble about the price.”
Well, it is 10$ dollar more in Canada. I was so happy it was the same price. No more…
@merman said:
"So judging on the review of RacingBricks on Youtube:
- it does only have a rear differential
- the gearbox is pretty much similar to the one of the Lamborghini Sian
- some errors in the instructions like 2 unused panels that appearantly go on two bare axles"
You forgot to mention that another error in the instructions means the sequence of the gearbox is wrong.
The extra two panels are apparently missing in all the publicity shots as well as the blueprint.
That's a lot of error getting through QA for such a premium product...
@BulbaNerd4000 said:
"Really interested in the serial number! Will you post a follow-up article regarding what it is?"
Yes
@Duq said:
" @merman said:
"So judging on the review of RacingBricks on Youtube:
- it does only have a rear differential
- the gearbox is pretty much similar to the one of the Lamborghini Sian
- some errors in the instructions like 2 unused panels that appearantly go on two bare axles"
You forgot to mention that another error in the instructions means the sequence of the gearbox is wrong.
The extra two panels are apparently missing in all the publicity shots as well as the blueprint.
That's a lot of error getting through QA for such a premium product..."
Yes, true. That also happened with the orange Porsche remember?
Which makes me wonder: are the technic posibilities of these licensed supercars limited and is the bodywork the only unique aspect?
I love the fact that every technic car has a built
-in gear shifter.
That’s what makes them better than the creator cars.
@Duq said:
"That's a lot of error getting through QA for such a premium product..."
Yes it is disappointing but not has much as the colour matching issues of the Sian.
@Koend1999 said:
" @CCC said:
" @Koend1999 said: "Maybe it is just me, but I actually prefer the stickered plaques over this plaque. My eyes are just drawn to that huge, ugly injection mold in the middle of the plaque, that is just so much more obvious because it is a black piece. As long as LEGO cannot fix this (which is probably due to the plastic used and the type of mold) I do not need these plaques to be printed.
"
It is an injection moulded piece of plastic, so I don't mind it having an injection mould mark. If the print had gone over the mark and got messed up because of it, I'd be more worried. I hate having to put such large stickers on those tiles, getting them perfectly centred is a real chore. They can give me printed ones every time.
"
That just shows that different people get annoyed by different things. I don't mind my stickers being slightly off-center, I don't mind colour differences in bricks, I don't mind colourful insides in sets, but I have OCD over clearly visible injection moulds :)"
People in Billund don’t have injection moulds at all. The official images are somewhat misleading. If this is your first Lego set because you are a Ferrari fan you may be very disappointed
I don't like Technic at all, as I find the aesthetic of the system to be unpleasant to the eye, but I admit this is the closest I've seen a Technic model to resemble a "true" Lego bricks model. I have no idea how to score its "technic" side, but it's a very displayable model. It was a nice review to read.
@Romaclego60 said:
"Well, it is 10$ dollar more in Canada. I was so happy it was the same price. No more…"
All of Summer 2022 (and forward, I guess) sets got a price hike in Canada. Some $10, some more. I think only polybags and minifigures series remained the same.
@kkoster79 said:
"I love the article "The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!"
Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?"
Probably because the Ferrari will have all its body panels properly aligned, and won't rattle like a tin can full of stones over 20mph.
Smoking hot car.
I was going to get this until I became aware that the Wing mirrors flap about a bit.
Very disappointing.
PRINTED PLAQUE...
Clearly a lot of people don't seem to care, but I personally think the stickered plaques look BETTER than this printed one. Printing onto the part itself, the "dimples" from the anti-studs on the back and the molding mark dead-center on the piece are clearly visible through the print. Whereas applying a big, easy to apply sticker on top of a part like this covers up those little imperfections in the part surface itself much more effectively.
"If the Technic team can produce models where every piece is printed you have to question why that is not the norm for all premium adult-oriented sets."
Exactly, Huw. Exactly.
I wonder if everything is printed at Ferrari's insistence? Makes this set seem extra premium and extra special, and that's the kind of branding they like.
@Angry_Warlock said:
" @kkoster79 said:
"I love the article "The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!"
Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?"
Probably because the Ferrari will have all its body panels properly aligned, and won't rattle like a tin can full of stones over 20mph. "
I would guess you have never owned a Ferrari!
They rattle and squeak, are badly put together, and the electrics are shocking!
But then I have never driven a Tesla!
Anyway, car looks cool. Nice wheels. Will pick it up, at a discount.
i will say it is hilarious seeing a sentence saying "if all the pieces are printed in this set, i don't see why they can't be printed in every set" followed by "this set is $400"
printing adds more to a set's production values (and thus, to its cost) than stickers do. in a big set like this that's already very expensive, that doesn't matter as much, so they can just go whole hog, but for a lot of sets at a less bank-breaking price tier (like, say, Optimus Prime), there's got to be corners cut on printing simply because it would hike up the price. and then people who are already complaining that a set is too expensive would complain more.
Fabulous review as always!
My thought on the new gears is that perhaps they interlock more easily (especially if one of them moves between multiple other gears with the operation of the gearbox), since the teeth are shaped differently and are narrower at the tips, allowing for a slightly greater amount of misalignment when interlocking.
I'm actually not a fan of the real car, but the Lego set looks stunning! Easily the best of the 4 "UCS" Technic cars IMO.
Great set, great review!
This specific model feels like a bit odd choice to me, but it works surprisingly well! And sure, this is form over function, but there's only so much you can do with a car. Though it always a it funny to see such a huge transmission with a relatively tiny engine on top :-)
And great that they didn't cut any corners, this is a set truly worthy of the prancing horse logo. It's kind of ironic that now one of the best and probably the worst of Technic sets in recent years are based on a Ferrari....
@matrox2001 said:
" @Angry_Warlock said:
" @kkoster79 said:
"I love the article "The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!"
Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?"
Probably because the Ferrari will have all its body panels properly aligned, and won't rattle like a tin can full of stones over 20mph. "
I would guess you have never owned a Ferrari!
They rattle and squeak, are badly put together, and the electrics are shocking!
But then I have never driven a Tesla!
Anyway, car looks cool. Nice wheels. Will pick it up, at a discount."
I have a Tesla and its pretty quiet, but I have a Model 3 not the Model S Plaid which is astonishing to be blown away in. Obviously never driven a Ferrari yet, would love to and yes the Ferrari is waaaay better to look at and just is stunning where a Tesla can not even come close... but you can't argue with price and performance 5% of the total cost and 30% faster, oh and quiet :)
@Lyichir said:
"Clearly a lot of people don't seem to care, but I personally think the stickered plaques look BETTER than this printed one. Printing onto the part itself, the "dimples" from the anti-studs on the back and the molding mark dead-center on the piece are clearly visible through the print. Whereas applying a big, easy to apply sticker on top of a part like this covers up those little imperfections in the part surface itself much more effectively."
I'm guessing that people who prefer a printed plaque do so because they don't find applying a sticker to that element as easy as you make it sound. Normally rectangular stickers on rectangular tiles are some of the least challenging to apply, but when you scale it up to the size of an 8x16 plate, getting it centered correctly becomes a game of chance, and any slight crookedness at the starting point will propagate into something glaringly obviously by the time it's fully laid out. Plus, the sheer size makes it difficult to pull up to reposition, and much more likely to have dust trapped underneath.
I disagree with people who whine about stickers 99% of the time, but 8x16 tiles are one of the very few instances where I think the frustration is warranted.
@kkoster79 said:
"I love the article "The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!"
Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?"
That's what I don't get either. Why pay over 2 million for less performance and debatable looks?
I would never buy a modern Ferrari or any other dinosaur hypercar even if I did have such amounts of money to spare.
Caveat: I drive a Tesla Model 3 that does 0-100 km/h in less than 4 seconds, and in daily driving that's more than fast. And that's half the price of a Model S Plaid still. Hard to find better value for money in terms of performance.
@Lucina said:
"printing adds more to a set's production values (and thus, to its cost) than stickers do. in a big set like this that's already very expensive, that doesn't matter as much, so they can just go whole hog, but for a lot of sets at a less bank-breaking price tier (like, say, Optimus Prime), there's got to be corners cut on printing simply because it would hike up the price. and then people who are already complaining that a set is too expensive would complain more."
Yeah, that really explains why those €800 UCS sets still have lots of stickers....
And even when I can understand stickers to some extent especially on cheaper sets, considering the prices Lego is asking (and the profit they are making) there really isn't an excuse. And especially not at the usually not exactly cheap 18+ display sets that are too often marred by so many (badly color-matched) stickers.
@kkoster79 said:
"Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?"
Those Tesla are pretty impressive, but remember that not only can the Ferrari do blistering fast 0-100 sprints time after time after time again, 100 is also just where the fun starts. Now try a 0-200 or 0-300. Or try to keep up trough a twisty bit of road....
But obviously, in real life those numbers are all pretty trivial. For the average buyer of those cars only one performance figure counts: how fast can you fill up all of the passenger seats with hot chicks? And believe me, the fact that the Tesla has more seats isn't the reason it will lose ;-)
@kkoster79 said:
"I love the article "The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!"
Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?"
That’s an apples and oranges comparison though. The Ferrari has a petrol engine while the Tesla is electric, so it’s to be expected that its acceleration will be slower.
@Paul_Davis said:
"Maybe Lego should let the series lie after this one.
i wou"
No! There must be a yellow super car in the series after this one, then 5 in the lineup with all the bright colours. I want my yellow car dammit!
(joking)
I think the new gears are designed to reduce friction & noise in the drivetrain. With the older gears (tan and black) the teeth can rub against technic beams. Since the teeth are recessed slightly in the blue gears, there should be less friction.
@LukeSkywalker said:
" @Paul_Davis said:
"Maybe Lego should let the series lie after this one.
i wou"
No! There must be a yellow super car in the series after this one, then 5 in the lineup with all the bright colours. I want my yellow car dammit!
(joking)
"
Pink Cadillac next please ;)
Blue pins seems to stand out... still don't know why they don't come in black...?
https://images.brickset.com/news/75076_P1065427.JPG
@WizardOfOss said:
"For the average buyer of those cars only one performance figure counts: how fast can you fill up all of the passenger seats with hot chicks? And believe me, the fact that the Tesla has more seats isn't the reason it will lose ;-)"
Wouldn't say so.
Nowadays a Porsche or Ferrari isn't what it used to be. Many people are more turned off by gas guzzling dinosaur cars than turned on.
A Tesla otoh can be quite a chick magnet indeed - I speak from experience ;-P
33% off after a year! That is great! I have never seen any rebate on these sets in Canada. When Costco offers some of these sets, they are full price but you get another free set with it (generally a theme not lined up properly to make it totally useless). If I can get it at 20% off, I'll get it - I already have the Bugatti and I already know how paddle transmission, steering and suspension work. That is why I am more impatient about 42145 Airbus H175 hoping it will have cyclical and collective and controllable tail (apparently quite a few new parts in this one as well - still rumours though). Those would be mechanisms I am less familiar with (saw them in RC models but building them should be great fun).
Out of topic but another mechanism I'd like to see would be a Lego Technic steam(pneumatic) locomotive. There is one currently under evaluation in Ideas. I'd like to see the working for bringing the engine to reverse (I do understand that for that to happen, you have to stop the forward movement at an exact location but would still be nice to build that).
@matrox2001 said:
" @Angry_Warlock said:
" @kkoster79 said:
"I love the article "The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!"
Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?"
Probably because the Ferrari will have all its body panels properly aligned, and won't rattle like a tin can full of stones over 20mph. "
I would guess you have never owned a Ferrari!
They rattle and squeak, are badly put together, and the electrics are shocking!
But then I have never driven a Tesla!
Anyway, car looks cool. Nice wheels. Will pick it up, at a discount."
Last year I drove a 360 Modena, and it felt solid, without any rattles. Just a nice roaring V8 in the back.
Somewhere between 0 and 100 km/h Teslas are impressively quick, although I've never driven one. From 0-200 km/h or above, the Ferrari will likely be much faster, and be able to carry on for longer. Surely the cornering will be much better and more fun. Anyway, spending 2.5 million on a car for fun isn't a rational thing to do. I probably would if I had the resources.
@AustinPowers said:
"Wouldn't say so.
Nowadays a Porsche or Ferrari isn't what it used to be. Many people are more turned off by gas guzzling dinosaur cars than turned on.
A Tesla otoh can be quite a chick magnet indeed - I speak from experience ;-P"
Could be, but many more people know that that yellow shield with a little horse means $$$$$$ ;-)
And let's be real: no human being can resist the glorious sound of a V12, right?
@WizardOfOss said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"Wouldn't say so.
Nowadays a Porsche or Ferrari isn't what it used to be. Many people are more turned off by gas guzzling dinosaur cars than turned on.
A Tesla otoh can be quite a chick magnet indeed - I speak from experience ;-P"
Could be, but many more people know that that yellow shield with a little horse means $$$$$$ ;-)
And let's be real: no human being can resist the glorious sound of a V12, right? "
You'd be surprised how many people hate noisy cars. And "poser" cars are generally seen as just that. The consensus appears to be, the more powerful the car the more pitiful the owner. I mean, why the need to compensate... ;-)
@LukeSkywalker said:
"No! There must be a yellow super car in the series after this one, then 5 in the lineup with all the bright colours. I want my yellow car dammit!"
What... 40468 not super enough?!
Glorious sound =/= noise ;-)
And to be fair, I don't like noisy cars either. So I have no problems at all with normal cars inevitably going electric. But cars like that Ferrari are just like steam trains: even when they might not make much sense anymore, on an emotional level they will always crush the clinical modern stuff.
@WizardOfOss said:
"And let's be real: no human being can resist the glorious sound of a V12, right? "
It has to be a Rolls-Royce Merlin though.... or better still, 2 or 4!!
Aren't you a bit too picky? All V12 are equal, but some are more equal than others ;-)
And even the best sounding V12 is still no match for the BRM V16....
Nice to see that they can mix technic and system parts. They have started doing that more and more I think, but there is still room for more in my opinion. It is fundamentally one and the same system after all, so I don't really understand why they got so separated in the first place. Use technic for functionality and structural rigidity, then use whatever pieces are best suited to replicate body shapes and detailing. Especially for top-of-the-line sets with no expenses spared like this.
The model looks ok, but for such realistic accuracy it surprises me to see the bespoke custom wheels being almost cartoonishly oversized. Or is it just me? Also annoying that the gears are sequenced wrong, again. I like cars, but modern Ferraris are not really my taste, so this will fortunately for my wallet be an easy pass.
Oh, and the new versions of the 12 and 20 gears should be able to be used with chain-links, unlike the beveled versions.
The photo of the Lego model in front of the out-of-focus real car really shows how closely the Technic body panels copy the Ferrari's complex bodywork. I also appreciate the detailed gearbox and the fact that it *isn't* completely concealed inside this model. No question, this is a magnificent achievement.
But that's an awful lot of money to spend on something I don't have space to display, and no particular reason to display it anyway. (I'm not really a car fan; I prefer buildings and ships.) I bought 42110 (the large Land Rover) to have the experience of building a complex gearbox plus the challenge of finding a way to transform it from a "closed" model resembling the actual vehicle to an "open" one displaying its gloriously complex innards. If I *didn't* already have it, I might instead have shelled out for this monster, with the larger engine, even more complicated gearbox, and its far superior external appearance (those wheels alone make my mouth water).
I still might, if I ever see it at a significant discount, but as I don't spend time looking for discounted Lego, I doubt that will happen. And there comes a time when I really have to start saying "no" even to beautifully constructed sets that I simply can't justify to myself. (I *can* afford to spend lots of money on Lego, but I certainly can't afford to buy everything that catches my eye--and in the last few years, almost everything has caught my eye in one way or another!)
Frankly, if I'd ever bought one of the other sets in this sequence of mega-sports cars, I'd be feeling much more buyer's remorse. At least settling on the Land Rover saved me a lot of money. This Ferrari really seems like the pinnacle of 1:8 Technic "gasoline-powered" engineering!
@WizardOfOss said:
"Aren't you a bit too picky? All V12 are equal, but some are more equal than others ;-)"
4 x 27-litre V12s in perfect harmony flying over your head is a bit of a special moment... not one I expect to ever be bettered!
@Romaclego60 said:
" @huw wrote:
“When it goes on sale next month at LEGO.com it will cost $399.99, €399.99, £349.99 which in most markets is the same as 2020's 42115 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37, which has fewer pieces, so on that basis I will not quibble about the price.”
Well, it is 10$ dollar more in Canada. I was so happy it was the same price. No more…"
$10 is about 2% more, or the cost of a tiny LEGO set!
Are you really going to quibble about that, or be unhappy and not buy it?
In Australia, the Ferrari will be $50 more than the Lambo!!! :(
In 20 or so years, I suppose Lego Technic cars will be an extremely boring affair: steering and suspension. I guess control+ version 16.4.3 (or whatever name it will be called at that time) will come standard for the motor and battery pack.
I have yet to understand why the concepts of camber and caster are not introduced in those supercars - and while we are at it, MacPherson as well (most likely these car do no have MacPherson but would still be nice to see in a 'regular' car). If Nico71 can do it (camber and caster) with regular parts, I suppose Lego should be able to do it with purposely made up parts. To me, Lego Technic has to be a learning experience - I know most of those things already but still, learning by doing is fun and it's nice to see how it works up close and personal.
@lemish34 said:
" @Romaclego60 said:
" @huw wrote:
“When it goes on sale next month at LEGO.com it will cost $399.99, €399.99, £349.99 which in most markets is the same as 2020's 42115 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37, which has fewer pieces, so on that basis I will not quibble about the price.”
Well, it is 10$ dollar more in Canada. I was so happy it was the same price. No more…"
$10 is about 2% more, or the cost of a tiny LEGO set!
Are you really going to quibble about that, or be unhappy and not buy it?
In Australia, the Ferrari will be $50 more than the Lambo!!! :(
"
I sympathize about the costs in Australia. I probably will buy it at some point because I have all the others. And as one other have said, I have not seen those big discounts here in Canada.
I own 42056 and 42083.
I am holding off on purchasing 42115 due to the lime color issue.
These sets are very responsive, but to be honest, I am concerned that a third or fourth set will lose some of its freshness, especially in the construction of the internal structures such as the chassis and gearboxes.
Will 42143 really offer a new experience? I think not. I would like to see a non-supercar technical model of similar scale and complexity.
As a set it's impressive but maybe they could have used a better looking Ferrari than this one. I mean of the two I'ld still choose Sian over this set. But I must admit today Chiron looks a little rough compared to Ferrari. And I think Prosche stood the test of time, it still looks good.
@sjr60 said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"And let's be real: no human being can resist the glorious sound of a V12, right? "
It has to be a Rolls-Royce Merlin though.... or better still, 2 or 4!!"
Good call!
Mmmm... now I want models of Mosquitos & Lancasters instead of these near-identical 'compensatory' broom-brooms.
@lemish34 said:
" @Romaclego60 said:
" @huw wrote:
“When it goes on sale next month at LEGO.com it will cost $399.99, €399.99, £349.99 which in most markets is the same as 2020's 42115 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37, which has fewer pieces, so on that basis I will not quibble about the price.”
Well, it is 10$ dollar more in Canada. I was so happy it was the same price. No more…"
$10 is about 2% more, or the cost of a tiny LEGO set!
Are you really going to quibble about that, or be unhappy and not buy it?
In Australia, the Ferrari will be $50 more than the Lambo!!! :(
"
Not sure about the $50 42143 =$659. 99 42115=$569. 99 that's $90 difference
@Romaclego60 said:
" @huw wrote:
“When it goes on sale next month at LEGO.com it will cost $399.99, €399.99, £349.99 which in most markets is the same as 2020's 42115 Lamborghini Sián FKP 37, which has fewer pieces, so on that basis I will not quibble about the price.”
Well, it is 10$ dollar more in Canada. I was so happy it was the same price. No more…"
I wonder, why EUR and USD has the one price, cos 400 EUR is around 430 USD. It's pretty anfair =(
@sjr60 said:
"4 x 27-litre V12s in perfect harmony flying over your head is a bit of a special moment... not one I expect to ever be bettered!"
Okay, can't really argue with that :-)
@bananaworld said:
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@sjr60 said:
" @WizardOfOss said:
"And let's be real: no human being can resist the glorious sound of a V12, right? "
It has to be a Rolls-Royce Merlin though.... or better still, 2 or 4!!"
Good call!
Mmmm... now I want models of Mosquitos & Lancasters instead of these near-identical 'compensatory' broom-brooms."
Well the Spitfire and Mosquito from a certain other interlocking brick firm are excellent... Just hoping for their rumoured Lancaster.
Oh boy how would I have wanted that set as a kid, it looks fantastic and fun to build
@drussell said:
"I think the new gears are designed to reduce friction & noise in the drivetrain. With the older gears (tan and black) the teeth can rub against technic beams. Since the teeth are recessed slightly in the blue gears, there should be less friction."
That is my thought. They look to be completely re-engineered, and I assume it's so they can handle greater pressure (was it the Osprey that chewed its gears?) and run smoother. I would think the die/mould needed to make the gears is simpler which may make it cheaper in the long-run. Could also be due to a change in plastic or a weight/cost-saving measure.
@kkoster79 said:
"I love the article "The $2.25 million supercar incorporates a 6.5 litre V12 engine that develops 830bhp and propels it from 0 to 60 in 2.86 seconds, so not far behind a Tesla model S!"
Ha ha, funny that you can buy a Tesla Model S Plaid for $130,000 and it goes in 1.98 seconds, Not even close that's 30% quicker for just 5.7% of the cost. Ferrari is an incredible machine and far prettier to look at but at those stats why drive a dinosaur?"
I think you have to look at the 0-60 times with a pinch of salt - one has electric motors which provide instant torque and ha the emotive experience of a stale sandwich, the other uses a prehistoric engine with a drivetrain etc to propel itself destroying the planet at an eyewaterinw cost due to its exclusivity..... both have there merits as vehicles but lets face it, given the option you'd take the Ferrari any day it would easily reach any destination short of the end of a street before the Tesla !! Plus once bored of it you could flog it for more money and buy a dozen cars replace it
There have been plenty of Ferrari mocs online, but the price of building one of these from individual bricklink pieces has always been around double the price offered here (especially the wheels £20 each!) and the previous Ferrari creator sets are totally over-priced in secondary markets.
The slightly above camera angles are more flattering than the official rear and front photos which show more clearly all the extra few hundred pieces needed for all the system plate layering which some builders may see as an improvement in realism and others would just prefer Technic panels.
The older gears where tapered to allow turning at right angles, whereas these appear to be just for turning in the same plane as possibly this allows less chance of slippage, stronger and slightly smaller diameter.
For those who like the option of motorization it would be useful if the gear box could be easily swapped out for a bluetooth battery hub without having to do too much dis-assembly, although adding the motors looks problematic from the underneath view.
For anyone saying the price has not gone up since the Sian, it has in Australia by $90 which is nearly 16%!!
After all the marketing talk about no costs being spared, utmost attention to detail and pursuit of perfection I find the glaring flaws (missing parts, wrong gearbox sequence) even more comical.
Magnificent model and beautifully packaged, which I would expect for £350. The errors in the instructions are certainly questionable, but I must join the chorus and ask why printed plaques are not just included in Star Wars sets such as 73541, but also the likes of 10300, 10283, 76139 or 76161, all of which I've bought recently (NASA + movie vehicles is now my LEGO thing). Luckily I still have steady hands despite my advancing years (54!) but is it purely a cost consideration?
And on the subject of injection moulds in the centre of plaque elements, I think it is far less noticeable with a printed element than one that has a sticker applied to it, as every single one of mine has a seemingly unavoidable air bubble in the centre!
Just saw this thing in the stores and wow does it look awesome. Totally worth buying if you had that display space. It's not small that's for sure.
Nice review. I don't agree on this being the best in the series. That title still goes to the first IMO, the Porsche, as it has 1k fewer bricks at a similar form factor and thus has the perfect right "Technic" feel to it. The Porsche rims are a nice proof of that: they are cool, yet you can use them for other projects. The models after try to be blown up Lego City models, although the Lambo is the second most "Technic" model. Also the Porsch was 100€ cheaper, because of the leaner brick count. That is a major plus too.