Wow! Won’t be buying this (no room to display it), but it looks amazing!

Ooh a lovely raised and printed baseplate would’ve looked fine and saved some money.
Sorry, couldn’t resist =D

Looks incredible!

It’s interesting that they went the opposite way and removed colour from the original submission.

Still absolutely no idea, even after the leak a week ago, of how this is motorized or what the light is. Brickset review soon?

Looks nice but the price is insane. How can a set with roughly the same piece count and overall bulk as a modular cost basically twice the “classic” modular price? (though I appreciate that has now crept up, but still below £200)

Nice set, but the price is genuinely atrocious.

Same price as Ninjago City Gardens but over 3600 pieces less!
Around the same size as the Haunted House, but 50 bucks more and over 1000 less pieces.

That is just disgusting.

And the original base of the lighthouse was such a beautifully built construction, this is just a massive, massive downgrade. Did they originally want to include a better base, but the company told the they need to cut a ton of pieces from the set and instead throw in some rock work that looks like the crap I built when I was 12?

Is that baseplate a darker color blue than the normal blue ones?

Love it! But the price is killing! At this price range there are sets with far more pieces and that can offer a lot more. Is that some new light system in promo video?

I really think looking as close as I can to the light in the lighthouse that the reason for the high price tag is the light. It doesn’t look like a light brick or a variation of the power function piece. I’m really interested to see what’s inside it

@chrisaw said:
" Still absolutely no idea, even after the leak a week ago, of how this is motorized or what the light is. Brickset review soon?"

The motor and battery pack are housed in the base and I suspect there is a vertical shaft offset within the tower structure that gears the light. The video on lego.com briefly shows the new lens-like element but it's hard to see the actual light source. A corded light would bind as the wire turns so the light itself must stay static while a lens and reflector rotate. That or the light source itself is button battery operated with no wire issues. Whatever the case, I'm also interested to see how all this works.

But that price...yar, that price is as salty as the unforgiving sea.

This is absolutely a "No, it's too expensive" set. Insane price. Insanely greedy company.

The set turned out nicer than expected but the price is insane.
I think Peak Lego is starting to move to the rear view mirror.

The base of the lighthouse is truly a massive downgrade. I mean I’m glad we got interior space, but does the powered up components and newly designed light piece really justify its cost? Even by today’s standards, this is $230 at most

I'm afraid the price ruins it as a product

I can't see any mention of the motor or how it's included but I guess that's what drives up the price.
Looks really good,though.

$299 for 2000 pieces and 2 minifigures. Wow good job Lego, looks like you’ll have another year of record profits amidst a recession and inflationary environment! Your board of directors would be proud :)

Unless it will be on a hefty sale one day, it'll be one of the first 'town-compatible' sets in the Ideas series I'll pass. The price is just beyond ridiculous.

Ever since they've switched to 'Powered-Up' to motorize their sets, the prices of these sets gone through the roof. While the basic electronics used aren't anywhere near state of the art these days, nor significantly better than any e-system that came before.

Well this is a first day buy as we are lighthouse fans. Cost is probably because of the power/light stuff. And people complaining about the price on every set is starting to get annoying. It's Lego always has and always will be an expensive hobby/product. :)

They massacred this. The base of the original submission was gorgeous and the striking colour choices were axed. Doesn't help that this is outrageously overpriced

Really like the set, but again, TLG is running AFOLs out of the hobby with their exorbitant pricing. My paychecks just aren't keeping up with TLG's need for new Ferraris.

If only the minfigs looked more like Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattingson...

I like the look of it, but won't even consider purchasing until I see a 20%-30% off sale.

Oh God, very nice but extremely expensive. I'll wait if it gets some discount later on, like for example 21325 got in our country. I was able to get it 30% cheaper. The problem is that this Lighthouse is expensive even if it would be 30% cheaper :D. The RRP should be imo max €199.99

@morvit said:
"$299 for 2000 pieces and 2 minifigures. Wow good job Lego, looks like you’ll have another year of record profits amidst a recession and inflationary environment! Your board of directors would be proud :)"

Only if the usual idiots keep throwing their hard earned cash at them.

"How long have we been complaining about overpriced sets? Five weeks? Two Days? Where are we? Help me to recollect!"

Sorry, someone had to do it.

Not at this price, sorry, nice set tho.

Wow! Big price.

Wow! Crappy base. Still, I'll get it once it's worthwhile (GWP or sale).

To echo a lot of the comments- beautiful, but expensive.

I’m curious as to whether the next Modular Building will also happen to use the same dark blue baseplate…

@Starik20X7 said:
"To echo a lot of the comments- beautiful, but expensive.

I’m curious as to whether the next Modular Building will also happen to use the same dark blue baseplate…"

I’m more curious as to whether the next modular building will be above $299

Despite the price it just looks cheap. LEGO once more have successfully optimized away any charme the original design may have had. A big Nope.

Stunning set at a stunningly high price. I have no idea, with all the power functions etc, if the price is warranted. However, I'm beginning to feel Lego fatigue with these incredibly high prices. These large expensive sets need to be interspersed with sets like the Saturn IV, an outstanding set worth every cent. They're slowly moving Lego, in particular for AFLO's, from a premium product to the realm of a luxury product.

Nice, looks great, but... 300€ for 2065 parts? Are we nuts?!

Almost a third of the votes are already in "No, it's too expensive"; Never seen that in a 'revealing article' before, seems pretty self-explainatory to me.

Was gonna buy this set until I saw that price. What is going on in Lego HQ??

Disappointed that there is no spiral staircase. Hmmm...undecided.

And we even get stickers for this kind of money. Thank you LEGO. I really appreciate the gesture.

I would’ve guessed $200, maybe $250 if the core if the lighthouse was full of complex Technic gears and electrical components for the light.

Interesting times for sure.

@DoonsterBuildsLego said:
"I can't see any mention of the motor or how it's included but I guess that's what drives up the price.
Looks really good,though."

It's a medium motor and existing Technic lights. The magic is in the lense, which is how real lighthouses also work. The lense element is new to the set. Lighting is also used for the fireplace in the cottage.

@Pompatus said:
" @morvit said:
"$299 for 2000 pieces and 2 minifigures. Wow good job Lego, looks like you’ll have another year of record profits amidst a recession and inflationary environment! Your board of directors would be proud :)"

Only if the usual idiots keep throwing their hard earned cash at them.
"

Maybe don't call people idiots just because they make their own determinations of how to spend their own money and what it's worth to them.

@Mylenium said:
"Despite the price it just looks cheap. LEGO once more have successfully optimized away any charme the original design may have had. A big Nope."

Are you kidding? The color palate, build techniques, and scale have all been improved. It's got adorable minifigs! It's got a cute little cabin!

First response: Oooooh!

Seconds later: oh, it's so much money.

But I had the same reaction in the supermarket yesterday buying margarine, so I shouldn't be surprised!

I probably won't buy this, but it does give me some ideas to improve the lighthouse MOC that I modified from 41380.

The value proposition is an interesting one. 10268 is one of my favorite sets, for a number of reasons, but it cost $200 for 826 pieces, which is awful on paper. This set has a similar mass, more than 1000 additional pieces, a newer and more expensive (and worse) power system, and it's $100 more. While that may seem overpriced, it also seems in line with the Vestas set (which, again, was absolutely a good value to me).

The original idea was of a microscale lighthouse and that's what people liked when they supported it. Now LEGO creates a normal sized set that has nothing to do with the original submission. A set that they could have done any day of the week. I don't understand why LEGO is diverting so much from the original ideas of the creators and why there aren't many more people upset about it or at least criticize it.

Making this minifig scale is the only reason I’m still considering this set. There are plenty of other display options currently available. Had this been $200ish, it would probably have been much closer to a Day 1 kind of buy for me. Unfortunately, the U.S. doesn’t often see discounts on exclusives any more. :o(

@yellowcastle said:
"Making this minifig scale is the only reason I’m still considering this set. There are plenty of other display options currently available. Had this been $200ish, it would probably have been much closer to a Day 1 kind of buy for me. Unfortunately, the U.S. doesn’t often see discounts on exclusives any more. :o("

I agree that the transition to minifigure scale is the only thing keeping this as a "maybe" rather than a "no." At least that adds some playability to an otherwise display-centric set.

@JackStartLego said:
"The set looks awesome but The PPP is roughly more than 50% increase. This might be the new normal OOF. I am mostly likely just going to window shopping in brickset here or wait the set has like 40% discount. "

I am not defending the price or value proposition of this set, but you can always throw the PPP metric out the window when a set includes powered and/or electronic elements. That seems to have always been true.

@roygolan said:
"The original idea was of a microscale lighthouse and that's what people liked when they supported it. Now LEGO creates a normal sized set that has nothing to do with the original submission. A set that they could have done any day of the week. I don't understand why LEGO is diverting so much from the original ideas of the creators and why there aren't many more people upset about it or at least criticize it."

I mean, it's a lighthouse... that's motorized... with a cabin and a rocky base... it seems FAIRLY related to the original.

Can you show where the main attraction of the original was the Microscale?

Also, LEGO is not in the business of selling MOCs. It has to sell SETS, which have to meet certain standards for construction techniques, appeal, etc. Any given ideas set has to be transformed to meet the company's internal policy needs.

Just looked at the original submission and everything about the actual set is a massive improvement. The original base was far to big and made the lighthouse itself look really stumpy. And the house looked like something out of a 1970s set.

It is clear that the price is largely driven by the functions, so comparing it to similar size sets piece wise is disingenuous and just another way to bash Lego for their currently price policy.

@ForestMenOfEndor said:
" @JackStartLego said:
"The set looks awesome but The PPP is roughly more than 50% increase. This might be the new normal OOF. I am mostly likely just going to window shopping in brickset here or wait the set has like 40% discount. "

I am not defending the price or value proposition of this set, but you can always throw the PPP metric out the window when a set includes powered and/or electronic elements. That seems to have always been true."

You are 100% correct, good call.

I wish they hadn't made this minifigure scale, because despite the silly price, this set is now a must have (I had no interest in the microscale submission). Will hold out on a large retailer discount or a 2xVIP & substantial GWP combo, if we ever get those again.

@Boettner_Builds said:
" @captainpie said:
"Have we had the rowboat in white before?"

Yes, but never one with printing!"
Pretty sure that's a sticker.

@binaryeye said:
" @Boettner_Builds said:
" @captainpie said:
"Have we had the rowboat in white before?"

Yes, but never one with printing!"
Pretty sure that's a sticker."

Just looked at the main picture again, it’s 1000% a sticker :( stupid stickers…

This is lovely, but I wish they had made the electronic parts optional (like the old 8293 Power Functions Motor Set) to keep the price manageable.

Ah well. It's nice to get a new baseplate color thought.

I thought I'd leave a comment in the 'Complaints Section'... I mean Comments Section.

Let me buy a non-motorised version of this for $/£/€200.

Love the look of the set but the price is outrageous. I appreciate that the light and motor will bump up the price, but to me this is a £180 set - on par with Treehouse or Typewriter. I fear this may be the new normal.

Is the wiring in the motor made of gold?

(Sorry I couldn't resist, that PPP is atrocious. Gorgeous-looking set tho)

Well that should keep the CMF ferry captain safe.

This is legitimately one of the most beautiful official sets ever released. I think it's a massive improvement over the original submission, due in large part to making it minifig-scale and changing the color scheme to be more muted, which is a very nice change of pace from the usual Ideas motif of making things too bright & colorful. For my tastes, this really is perfect.

When the first image of this set was initially leaked, it was really unclear whether or not it would be motorized. Very relieved to find out that it is; I think that makes the price much easier to justify. I know it's not the best value compared to some other sets, but the simple truth is that I want to have this set WAY more than anything else that's available right now. This is a top priority for me and I will be getting it ASAP. I can easily forsee this becoming one of my favorite sets of all time.

Also, I know this wasn't intentional, but parts of this really remind me of the absolute masterpiece of a film that is The Lighthouse (2019) The muted colors almost make it appear monochrome from some angles; evoking the film beautifully. Definitely going to have to make some custom minifigs resembling Robert Pattinson and Willem Dafoe's characters from the film.

Just... absolutely stunning set. Can't wait to get it!

Insane price… lego: the hobby of the rich..
Also, no seagull

On some board meeting some exec at TLG shouted: let see how much we can have these idiot AFOLs and crazy parents pay for our products. Then we ramble something about higher costs for our plastic and they’ll eat it anyway. This can really turn against them and even may increase the sales of clone brands.

And if you look at it: it is a rather small and bland looking set… I think Winnie the Pooh has a bigger house than this cabin.

For anyone complaining about the price - minimum £75 is for the electronic components (if bought separately). Not cheap, but whinging about PPP is pointless - it's like saying the motor has equal value to a 1x1 tile.

@alegrippa said:
"Nice set, but the price is genuinely atrocious.

Same price as Ninjago City Gardens but over 3600 pieces less!
Around the same size as the Haunted House, but 50 bucks more and over 1000 less pieces.

That is just disgusting.

And the original base of the lighthouse was such a beautifully built construction, this is just a massive, massive downgrade. Did they originally want to include a better base, but the company told the they need to cut a ton of pieces from the set and instead throw in some rock work that looks like the crap I built when I was 12?"

The more I think about it, the more upset about it I get. It really is a nice set, and at 200 it wouldn't have been great, but it would've been FINE.
And I definitely would've gotten it at some point.

It being a large Ideas set means that a wide release is unlikely and it will never get discounted anywhere even close to 200, except maybe some American supermarkets.

LEGO really sunk the boat with this one.

Grrr.....comment disappeared even before timout....let's try again....

I like what I see! I do think the changes are an improvement here, the original submission was a bit so-so, this looks much better. And I actually like that they switched from nanofig to minifig scale, even when the tower probably should have been taller and the house is a bit tiny now, I felt the original submission looked way too bulky for nanofig scale. The base is a bit of a downgrade, though the original was a bit lacking either. It will be interesting to see how they did the lights and what the actual effect will be. But so far, so good.

The one thing I really don't like though is the price. I get that with a motor and lights this would be a bit on the pricier side, but this is quite a bit beyond that. It would need quite a discount before I would consider buying it.

Maybe a closer comparison could be 21335, Vestas Wind Turbine re-release, which contained 826 pieces and cost £159.99 / $199.99.

This has exactly 2.5 times the number of pieces, for £264.99 / $299.99, and is arguably a much nicer looking set, with a potentially more rewarding build experience and display value.

Although that all depends on whether the Wind Turbine to be value for money in the first place (which I personally don't think it was).

looks great but with a ridiculous price. i wonder how sustainable is this new lego for adults business model? huge display sets... once i will fill my apartment with sets i won't buy new ones. and then what?

Wow, it's gorgeous! And a baseplate!!!

It's also huuuuge. Again. No way I will be able to afford it and have space for it. But at least it's an original subject for once! The creativity and freedom of design is quite evident.
I'm perfectly happy with my Haunted Lighthouse, and I'm happy for people who want an UCS lighthouse.

I'm conflicted on this one. I love lighthouses, and the overall design is great. The rooms within the tower seem a bit out of place, but you can cover them up.

The additional pictures on the official site really make this set look much better. I really like the technique of using transparent garage doors to create the glass top. However, I do think the model could be improved. The all white structure is boring compared to some of the possibilities out there, like the diamond pattern of Cape Lookout, or any of the various spiral or ring designs. I think incorporating something like that would have made the structure more interesting.

The biggest factor in my indecision is the twin aspect of the functionality and the increased cost associated with it. It seems obvious that a good third of the cost of this set is for the motors and lights. At a glance, this seems like a waste. If the motorization ends up being something really neat and interesting, I'll likely end up buying this. Otherwise I may have to pass. Similar with the lighting. If it turns out to be cool, awesome, but as it is, it just doesn't seem worth it. If they're going to add the cost of batteries and motors and lights, they should go all in. Don't just illuminate the main lamp and the fireplace, have the whole house lit up. Give us a dozen lights throughout the structure.

HUW: "Do you want us to discuss price?"
*comments section for new product is literally entirely about the price*

I like it better than i expected. Minifig scale is a big plus, the base could do with some more detail. I just wish the function was crank based (manually) with an option to motorise it, just like the most recent haunted house. That would have given people much more options and would have made the price a lot more palatable...

@Luka_Lobe said:
"looks great but with a ridiculous price. i wonder how sustainable is this new lego for adults business model? huge display sets... once i will fill my apartment with sets i won't buy new ones. and then what? "

Then you buy second apartment and repeat process...

For $380 CAD before tax, I'll take my chances with my boat hitting the rocks.

Did anybody notice that the price is a tad too steep?

Set 8293: LEGO Power Functions Motor Set cost $30 in 2013. With inflation, it's $38.15. So let's round up to $40. Lets say the set without the motor and light was $200. Add $40 and BOOM! That's $240, but I'd give LEGO room to bump it up to $250. So on conclusion, this is overpriced!

A minor quibble, but why Aurora Point? It's a rock lighthouse surrounded by water, so Aurora Rock would seem more fitting. I assume 'Aurora' has some personal meaning to the designer. One of those things that would bug me so much I can see myself removing the sign!

yes, perfect addition to the old fishing store.
for 200€ i'm all in!

oh wait.

Surprised at all the negative reactions this is getting. Yes, it uses BURPs (probably to maximize space for the battery box and make it easier to remove it to change the batteries), but the base still looks gorgeous to me with all its SNOTted slopes and foliage. Plus, while I realize it's been seven years at this point, it doesn't feel that AFOLs were fawning over the reveal of 70751 Temple of Airjitzu, which also had a BURP-based foundation. So treating this model's foundation as KFOL-level simplicity seems like a huge disservice.

The price is steep for the piece count, but I obviously wasn't expecting a 10¢ price per piece for a set with a battery box, motor, and lights, and it's definitely more affordable than the only previous motorized Ideas set (21323 Grand Piano).

I'm also really impressed that the final set is minifig scale — despite only being a few centimeters taller than the original, with around the same diameter for the lighthouse itself AND the same size baseplate! It's not hard to imagine that the designer might've opted for minifig scale themselves if they'd believed it was possible to achieve that while maintaining the same general proportions. And I know for fact that a number of supporters of the project had commented either on the Ideas site or on other fan sites and social media about wishing that it could be minifig scale.

The cottage's furnished interior and enhanced architectural details (such as the brick-built dormer, quoins, shutters, rain gutters, and roof ridge) greatly enhance the amount of visual interest the set has to offer. Same with the sandy beach areas, seaside cave, vines/foliage, and more selective use of transparent tiles and slopes for the places where the waves break against the rocky spires and coastline.

I'm also really liking the new lens/reflector element the designers came up with that allows for a brighter, more focused beam of light while still using the existing Powered Up light elements. it's a part that I imagine could have great utility in illuminated MOCs and future illuminated sets, as well!

It's still bizarre to me that pretty much every time that a LEGO Ideas set gets revealed, all these sorts of refinements and updates are treated as a huge betrayal of the original concept proposed, when nearly all of them are the same sort of changes and refinements that regular sets would routinely go through in the process of developing them from a sketch model to final product.

I get how it might FEEL different when fans like us actually get to see the "sketch model" in detail months or years before the final design. But it's natural for a design to evolve between the initial pitch/proposal and final product, and frankly, I feel a lot of Ideas sets and regular sets alike would be much worse if they DIDN'T go through that sort of iterative development process.

In any case, while this is not going to be a first-day purchase for me, I could definitely see it finding a place in my collection eventually, since it's a display-friendly size and has a lot of the same sort of details that I've loved in other sets like 21325 Medieval Blacksmith.

And I'm eager to learn more about the set from stuff like designer videos, fan designer/set designer comments/interviews, and set reviews as those emerge in the weeks to come! There are certainly some things that aren't definitively addressed in the official description, pictures, and videos, like how the cables are integrated, how easily the battery box can be removed, how much noise the model makes when running, etc. But so far, I'm very impressed with this set's finished design!

Love the look, and I always wanted a substantially sized lighthouse to pair with 21310 Old Fishing Store. Having both of those creates a cool little coastline scene.

However the price here, wooof. Definitely waiting for at least a 20%/$60 discount.

@dingbat591 said:
"Did anybody notice that the price is a tad too steep?"

No, because they would almost certainly have mentioned it again and again .... and again.

.... and again.

Dear god. TLC please stop making so much excellent sets in the higher pricing range.
I need to have this. And about 10 other adult sets.
Anyone here with 2500 spare euro’s?

Just a couple things I noticed.

Someone said no Seagull, there is a seagull on the upper railing on the back of the box.

Someone asked about batteries and it does say batteries not included, so it will be battery run. Even that person probably realized it, but thought I'd mention it is confirmed.

A lot of folks are comparing the price per piece with sets that don't include battery packs, motors, lights which is a bit of apples to oranges. That said, I don't know if the cost for the electronics and pieces is a good value per se, but comparing part count vs a set without electronics isn't exactly fair. If you want to do that, at leats come up with an estimate (which a couple people did mention), subtract that, then compare maybe.

And certainly an expensive set can be off putting even if it's a good or not too bad a value. I know I have put off buying really expensive sets due to their cost/size...like the really large Star Wars sets (Falcon, Star Destroyer, AT-AT) for those reasons.

About this set, I really like it. I'm a sucker for nautical sets. I will get this one. Not on day one, but sometime before it retires for sure.

If this set is not for you for whatever reason, we are lucky that LEGO makes such a diverse line ups of sets with a variety of price points. My issue is always that there are more sets coming out that I really want vs space, cost, etc. If this set (or any set) isn't for you for whatever reason, there will probably be more that are.

And definitely not saying not to criticize things like cost, design choices, etc...there have definitely been some whackadoodle prices...not just really large sets, but even small/medium sets that their price doesn't seem to match with their value.

I was just a little surprised by some of the comments...mostly ones comparing price per piece with sets without electronics. Criticize the price if you feel appropriate, but you shouldn't just pick another set and say it has more pieces for less as justification. All parts aren't equal, just look at the art sets or dots sets, all the little 1x1 pieces...aren't the same as a battery pack, motor, light...or even more substatial pieces. PPP can give you some rough idea on some aspects of value, but it's very much not the whole picture.

Cheers!

Needs about 20 more seagulls. Or maybe some puffins would have been good that could perch on the sides of the cliffs. Porgs not welcome.

I like it, but as everyone else has said already - the price!!! Will have to wait for a significant gap in my LEGO spending before considering it.

No Bat Signal function?

I don't care about Powered-up features. Couldn't that have been optional, thus potentially reducing the costs?

@bricksintheattic said:
"A minor quibble, but why Aurora Point? It's a rock lighthouse surrounded by water"
Maybe it was originally on the point, but years of erosion have caused it to become detached, or perhaps it's still attached to Aurora Point at low tide!

@ShinyBidoof said:
".... and again.
"
You also a fan of The Horribly Slow Murderer with the Extremely Inefficient Weapon? :-)

@thebestnicknar said:
" @yellowcastle said:
"By Gataka in Canada, 22 Jun 2021 10:03
I assume they'll maintain the microscale. At minifigure scale I would have been interested, thought it would have been expensive."

It is minifigure scale"

This was a snapshot of one of the comments from June 2021 when this set was first selected. And at the time, a number of us were concerned about it staying microscale. I'm very excited (as I'm sure is @Gataka) that this was upsized. :o)

@kolaxanthe said:
"I don't care about Powered-up features. Couldn't that have been optional, thus potentially reducing the costs?"

The name of the Ideas submission was Motorized Lighthouse, which has been retained for the official set.

The point of the set is that it is motorized. Otherwise they could have just built a lighthouse, stuck a light brick in the top and called it done.

I can't see how they could have possibly done this without the electronic components unless they had drastically changed the original submission. Even if the turning action was manual the light would still have needed the battery box and light components.

I don't know if the price is fair or not, but I do know that comparison with sets without electronic components is ridiculous. Someone needs to add up the retail price of the components (I would but I don't know what battery box they're using) subtract that from the price and then do ppp calculation.

@bananaworld said:
"
"Boat does not float" ???

It definitely does!"

Only on the calmest of seas.

Can someone please explain the economics of why LEGO's electrical components cost so much, and also why people jump to defend that cost.

Programmable stuff, connected to apps, and motors with positional-sensing: sure, maybe that's justifiable, but battery boxes, LEDs, & the basic motor required for this lighthouse...? Those things cost PENNIES to buy in bulk, even decently robust ones. Why does encasing it in a LEGO-compatible plastic shell suddenly mean people justify the extravagant cost of this set?

@bananaworld said:
"Why does encasing it in a LEGO-compatible plastic shell suddenly mean people justify the extravagant cost of this set?"Have you ever thought how much it costs to put the name on every single stud?! That's a lot of work!

@CDM said:
" @chrisaw said:
" Still absolutely no idea, even after the leak a week ago, of how this is motorized or what the light is. Brickset review soon?"

The motor and battery pack are housed in the base and I suspect there is a vertical shaft offset within the tower structure that gears the light. The video on lego.com briefly shows the new lens-like element but it's hard to see the actual light source. A corded light would bind as the wire turns so the light itself must stay static while a lens and reflector rotate. That or the light source itself is button battery operated with no wire issues. Whatever the case, I'm also interested to see how all this works.

But that price...yar, that price is as salty as the unforgiving sea.

"

On the official site there's more pictures and details, it contains a battery box and a motor and two new LED light elements that are connected by cables - one for the hearth in the cottage, and one for the top of the lighhouse. The motor and battery box are probably inside the island itself, the cable runs up one side of the lighthouse tower and there's a technic axle running up the other side, with a turntable mechanism at the top where the light and lens sit that's geared up to spin. I'm also very curious as to how they got the LED to spin without getting the cable all tangled up, especially since the cable doesn't run central to the point of rotation. It's possible that the light element itself doesn't spin, but a housing around it that contains the lens on one side and an opaque shield on the other sides.

Should hopefully be a lot brighter and a lot easier for display than the standard lightbricks we've been using for years, but it would be great to have the option to forego the battery box and just have something like this plugged directly into the wall.

@harbormaster said:
"A Fresnel lens built with small clear pieces would be awesome. Hope it has one. The functional heart of a lighthouse."

If you look at the official pictures from LEGO there is a close up of the Fresnel lens.

@yellowcastle said:
" @thebestnicknar said:
" @yellowcastle said:
"By Gataka in Canada, 22 Jun 2021 10:03
I assume they'll maintain the microscale. At minifigure scale I would have been interested, thought it would have been expensive."

It is minifigure scale"

This was a snapshot of one of the comments from June 2021 when this set was first selected. And at the time, a number of us were concerned about it staying microscale. I'm very excited (as I'm sure is @Gataka) that this was upsized. :o)"
Yes, new scale is right for me! At minifig scale there's more detail, I can easily combine it with my other things, or use characters to set up scenes and stories, etc. Microscale doesn't do much for me.

I'm glad I was wrong about them keeping the microscale. It did turn out expensive, but that's unavoidable at this point.

@Pollywanna said:
" @CDM said:
" @chrisaw said:
" Still absolutely no idea, even after the leak a week ago, of how this is motorized or what the light is. Brickset review soon?"

The motor and battery pack are housed in the base and I suspect there is a vertical shaft offset within the tower structure that gears the light. The video on lego.com briefly shows the new lens-like element but it's hard to see the actual light source. A corded light would bind as the wire turns so the light itself must stay static while a lens and reflector rotate. That or the light source itself is button battery operated with no wire issues. Whatever the case, I'm also interested to see how all this works.

But that price...yar, that price is as salty as the unforgiving sea.

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On the official site there's more pictures and details, it contains a battery box and a motor and two new LED light elements that are connected by cables - one for the hearth in the cottage, and one for the top of the lighhouse. The motor and battery box are probably inside the island itself, the cable runs up one side of the lighthouse tower and there's a technic axle running up the other side, with a turntable mechanism at the top where the light and lens sit that's geared up to spin. I'm also very curious as to how they got the LED to spin without getting the cable all tangled up, especially since the cable doesn't run central to the point of rotation. It's possible that the light element itself doesn't spin, but a housing around it that contains the lens on one side and an opaque shield on the other sides.

Should hopefully be a lot brighter and a lot easier for display than the standard lightbricks we've been using for years, but it would be great to have the option to forego the battery box and just have something like this plugged directly into the wall. "
There's a mirror (or some kind of reflective sticker) behind the lens redirecting the light into it, so the LED below the turntable doesn't need to move.

Why is nobody commenting on the price?

For a change the final version looks better than the original fan design. And I do really like the dark blue baseplate.

But 300€ for not even 2100 pieces?
Absolutely NOT.
This is extremely overpriced.
And I don't care for the excuse "oh but it's motorised". Yes. It is. But that doesn't justify it costing almost double the price the set would be worth it if fairly priced. The set with this site and this amount of pieced should be around 200-210€ tops.

I remember LEGO trying to sell variations of the same set? Yeah, they should try it with this one too. Release a non-motorised version with a fairer price (not that LEGO even knows what fair prices are these days). See which people would pick.
I tell you which I'd pick: the non-motorised version.

As it stands I like the set, but I'm not buying it unless I find it with a very good discount on top.

$299.99
- $49.99 for Hub
- $39.99 for Technic™ Large Motor (or same-priced equivalent)
-$9.99 for Light
= $200.02 for the cost of the remainder of the set

$200.02 / 2062 pieces = $0.097 per piece, putting it UNDER the relatively standard $0.10 per piece for a non-branded set. Are the Powdered Up pieces exorbitantly-priced? Yes, definitely, but this set is still a bargain if you take those pieces at their face values.

@Aanchir said:
"Surprised at all the negative reactions this is getting. Yes, it uses BURPs (probably to maximize space for the battery box and make it easier to remove it to change the batteries), but the base still looks gorgeous to me with all its SNOTted slopes and foliage. Plus, while I realize it's been seven years at this point, it doesn't feel that AFOLs were fawning over the reveal of 70751 Temple of Airjitzu, which also had a BURP-based foundation. So treating this model's foundation as KFOL-level simplicity seems like a huge disservice.

The price is steep for the piece count, but I obviously wasn't expecting a 10¢ price per piece for a set with a battery box, motor, and lights, and it's definitely more affordable than the only previous motorized Ideas set (21323 Grand Piano).

I'm also really impressed that the final set is minifig scale — despite only being a few centimeters taller than the original, with around the same diameter for the lighthouse itself AND the same size baseplate! It's not hard to imagine that the designer might've opted for minifig scale themselves if they'd believed it was possible to achieve that while maintaining the same general proportions. And I know for fact that a number of supporters of the project had commented either on the Ideas site or on other fan sites and social media about wishing that it could be minifig scale.

The cottage's furnished interior and enhanced architectural details (such as the brick-built dormer, quoins, shutters, rain gutters, and roof ridge) greatly enhance the amount of visual interest the set has to offer. Same with the sandy beach areas, seaside cave, vines/foliage, and more selective use of transparent tiles and slopes for the places where the waves break against the rocky spires and coastline.

I'm also really liking the new lens/reflector element the designers came up with that allows for a brighter, more focused beam of light while still using the existing Powered Up light elements. it's a part that I imagine could have great utility in illuminated MOCs and future illuminated sets, as well!

It's still bizarre to me that pretty much every time that a LEGO Ideas set gets revealed, all these sorts of refinements and updates are treated as a huge betrayal of the original concept proposed, when nearly all of them are the same sort of changes and refinements that regular sets would routinely go through in the process of developing them from a sketch model to final product.

I get how it might FEEL different when fans like us actually get to see the "sketch model" in detail months or years before the final design. But it's natural for a design to evolve between the initial pitch/proposal and final product, and frankly, I feel a lot of Ideas sets and regular sets alike would be much worse if they DIDN'T go through that sort of iterative development process.

In any case, while this is not going to be a first-day purchase for me, I could definitely see it finding a place in my collection eventually, since it's a display-friendly size and has a lot of the same sort of details that I've loved in other sets like 21325 Medieval Blacksmith.

And I'm eager to learn more about the set from stuff like designer videos, fan designer/set designer comments/interviews, and set reviews as those emerge in the weeks to come! There are certainly some things that aren't definitively addressed in the official description, pictures, and videos, like how the cables are integrated, how easily the battery box can be removed, how much noise the model makes when running, etc. But so far, I'm very impressed with this set's finished design!"

Say more things that make sense, I dare you.

Looks great, but that's an awful lot of money for a 32x32 Dark Blue base plate... Is Ferrari about to release a new super car or something?
I like it, but not at that price, I think LEGO really is testing people's sanity with this one...

Lovely model but at $470AUD its a hard no. For comparison, the Medieval Blacksmith is $280AUD and has 2164 pieces - 100 pieces more than the lighthouse. Surely it doesn't cost an extra $200 to motorize?? I have to agree that Lego seems to be loosing touch...

@whaleyland said:
"$299.99
- $49.99 for Hub
- $39.99 for Technic™ Large Motor (or same-priced equivalent)
-$9.99 for Light
= $200.02 for the cost of the remainder of the set

$200.02 / 2062 pieces = $0.097 per piece, putting it UNDER the relatively standard $0.10 per piece for a non-branded set. Are the Powdered Up pieces exorbitantly-priced? Yes, definitely, but this set is still a bargain if you take those pieces at their face values."

FYI, product description on LEGO's website says this has a "battery box, medium motor and cable with lights", so $34.99 + $16.99 + $9.99 of Powered Up if you want to break it down that way.

If it was $200, I might consider it. But since I built my own out of two 31051 sets and 3rd party lighting effects, the only way I see myself getting this is as a gift.

The bigger issue I have is Lego's continued dependence on batteries, and lots of 'em. For a company who claims to want to be greener, why no alternate power methods yet? Especially for display sets like this or 10268 that aren't moving anywhere once they're built.

@HOBBES said:
"I have read somewhere on these comments that the ppp for this set is apparently outrageous.

So 2065 pieces for €299.99 (a ppp of 0.145) is no good.

How about 2062 pieces for €205.02 (a ppp of 0.099) is it better?

€299.99 - €49.99(hub) - €34.99(large motor) - €9.99(light) = €205.02 (and subtract 3 parts).

The lady in the rowing boat seems to be in a jolly mood.
"

As someone already mentioned, the product description states it has a battery box, a medium motor and cable with lights.

@bananaworld said:
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Can someone please explain the economics of why LEGO's electrical components cost so much, and also why people jump to defend that cost.

Programmable stuff, connected to apps, and motors with positional-sensing: sure, maybe that's justifiable, but battery boxes, LEDs, & the basic motor required for this lighthouse...? Those things cost PENNIES to buy in bulk, even decently robust ones. Why does encasing it in a LEGO-compatible plastic shell suddenly mean people justify the extravagant cost of this set?"

There are two types of replies there: people who are shocked by the price and people who are shocked by the price but still want the set, so they come up with reasons why the price is OK. So any excuse will do.

Here's the problem for me. It's nice that this has a working spinning light made with care, really appreciate the new parts... but is watching that light turn for a bit once in a while worth what feels like a hundred dollar extra for Powered Up and batteries?

If this were like a lamp that I could plug into the wall and just turn on for basically forever, use it as a fancy night light, always on display, then I'd appreciate it everyday 'till the parts wear out. However as is, being battery powered, it becomes a novelty that I will tire off quickly, already have too many batteries to manage in my life, and then maybe show off to someone once a blue moon.

So there's a high initial cost and then an ongoing cost to that feature. While it is a nice touch, there isn't all that much to it. Lens is neat but I can marvel at a little light that spins only for so long. So the Powered Up premium is tough to swallow.

Ah well, this is LEGO so I just need to find a way to get more use out of those weirdly expensive electronic bits. Think think think.

The rest of the model I'm quite happy with, thought if I do get it I'll brighten up/saturate the colors, like LEGO usually does, and add more life to that barren rock. Needs more seagulls in particular.

Plenty of comments saying the set isn't that overpriced because it has electronic parts, which are themselves outrageously overpriced.
Baffling.

If motorization is the true reason behind this ridiculous price (doubt it, overpriced even with the pf components), then the set should be produced with manual operation and optionally upgradable with power functions for those concerned. The same way fairground sets are produced...

Plenty of comments saying it's not expensive because xyz is the same price or more expensive.

Rubbish. Just because xyz is overpriced as well doesn't justify something else being overpriced too.

I'd love to have this model, but will not be paying that sort of money for a fancy ornament on a shelf.

People need to stop acting like the electronics included are somehow worth $100. You can buy a fully-featured smartphone for $100 that is infinitely more complex to design and manufacture than these crude electronics LEGO includes in their sets. There is no way on earth a battery box, a motor and a couple of lights are anywhere close to $100, not even with a LEGO logo on them.

Just an idea but it would have been fitting if this came with a soundtrack like some Art sets do featuring ambient noises to set the mood and trigger this "mindfulness" LEGO likes to talk about. Steady waves, distant birds, lonely winds, wash of rain, occasional fog horn, etc.

It would help cover up the motor noise at the same time. Guess I'll DIY my own.

Anyway, the price would be perfectly acceptable if this included an out of context goat.