@CapnRex101 The US price on LEGO.com is $164.99.

Price in Europe is €164.99 not €149.99

After I try to get the guardian's ship for Christmas, this will be up there on my wish list.

@CapnRex101 You didn't update € price.

I like build, price seems a bit too high imho for ppl which are not Dune huge fans, even though minifigs have new prints and look good.

Also: again good example that black background isn't always best choice. There could be more sand on box! Sand was dropping from the screen in cinema all the time!

I guess it is time I finish watching Dune on Netflix.

That big minifigure though, Do not remember that in books or original movie.

What’s even is that minifigure

The function is super cool, but those red and blue parts sticking out really break the illusion unfortunately

Never seen/read Dune, but I think I might have a use for that med. nougat head with blue eyes...

That Baron Harkonnen minifig isn’t going to fit in my display cabinet :-D

Retract is 90deg rotation?

Who's Afraid of Red, Yellow and Blue?

Haven't seen the movie or read the books, my only familiarity with Dune comes from the PC game about 3 decades ago. Not even sure if this was in there. So no clue how authentic it is. But as a whole, I think this looks pretty great. And just having seen the video, I absolutely love the mechanisms! This is more Technic than many Technic sets nowadays, albeit with the same color puke issues. The video also gives a better impression of the size, just looking at the pictures it looked smaller and thus rather pricey, but it doesn't seem too bad after all.

This is great. Also that new front canopy piece looks super useful.
Also @MisterBrickster :D Literally snorted when I read that

First thought: $165 for a lot of uncreative studded plates and a bunch of exposed Technic elements.

Yay?

That Landing Gear mechanism gave me fuzzy feelings....

There appears to be a typo in the price it has additional digit in front of the actual price.

Not quite seeing the value there.
Could do with a stand for use with the Ornithopter in flight mode.

I loved the first book (admittedly, though, I never finished the series). I also love the David Lynch film, and I am very much enjoying Villeneuve's efforts. These minifigures are great! But I am going to withhold my opinion about the main build until I see it in the brick. The photos do not excite me.

If it looked a little more steampunk, I'd be tempted. But I'm trying to cut back on purchases of large Lego sets, and I haven't seen the movie. I have read the book, but it's been years.

@MisterBrickster: If I did get the set, I'd pose the two in a face-off.

@PurpleDave: 75174?

For a minute there, I thought the Baron's cloth robe was made of hard plastic. He was poised to take the tallest official Lego minifigure crown from the Toy Story 3 figures, but, alas, it was not to be!

While its alot more impressive then I thought it'd be, its not quite as accurate as they could have made it. The cockpit angles are a little too boxy compared to the on screen version. They also really need to start making black technic pins as the red and blue really detracts from the overall look.

That said, It also seems odd they've chosen to make such a large and complicated model for this niche film. Even as a sci-fi fan, I much prefered the origional Dune movie, so this model wouldn't be amongst my top choices. Some of the figs seem odd choices too to fit with this set, even if they are iconic to dune, they've pretty much nothing to do with the ornithopter.

So yeah.. overall, seems like an expensive set that won't sell well to me.

The Baron is bad enough but what Paul does....scheesh (avoiding any spoilers here). Not a lego-friendly character.

The 18+ black box style doesn't do this set any favours!

Long live the builders!

I'm like so totes buying this.

Really sad it doesn't incorporate a sandworm breaching as part of the display but still looks great!

EDIT: although WTF with the Minifigures selection. Very odd.

@lomis said:
" @melkor23 said:
" @lomis said:
"This is really impressive. I think it's worth seeing the features of this set in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWzKOuhPqQ"

Video is private."

How odd. I was able to watch it earlier. But now I cannot. My apologies."

working now

It's cool but not the most nostalgic Dune vehicle to me , especially in terms of the old Westwood era RTS games (Dune 2 , Dune 2000, Emperor Battle for Dune).

However, I do realise with the books, movies, and even recent Spice Wars game, there's renewed interest in it.

Dune had 2 video games in 1992, Dune (Cryo Interactive) was a story game I never played.

Dune 2 (Westwood) also released 1992, but was not a sequel or anything, but a seperate game, basicly one of the first RTS type of games, which formed the basis for many future RTS games (namely Warcraft Orcs and Humans 1994 (Blizzard Entertainment), Command and Conquer 1995 (also Westwood), onwards.

@DekoPuma said:
"When I saw the first preview image, I thought the Baron's cloak things was a solid plastic piece like the newer dress style pieces. Which would have been really funny and made him look 15' tall instead of this, where you can see his actual legs under the robes."

Oh no, crushed to realise it’s not just a big dress piece!

I like Dune (the book), though it's a long while since I've read it, or any of the sequels. I would have been tempted buying this potentially. But to be honest, to me it looks very, very grey and rather not interesting. The flight mechanism might be cool and possibly fun to build, but I think I pass.

I have only witnessed this in the trailers. I have yet to watch the movie. I'll have to check it out sometime. The set itself looks neat, but at that price I'll likely have to skip it since I am not attached to it. The figures look fun though and I do like new prints, so I may look into some of them.

This looks really cool and I would probably get it if I knew what Dune is. Can someone please explain to me the plot? It looks very dystopian so I’ll probably like it but like I said I have no idea what Dune is.

Wow, I like this, but it's now clear that I didn't need to get 76216 for Whiplash.

@Bricklunch said:
"The Baron is bad enough but what Paul does....scheesh (avoiding any spoilers here). Not a lego-friendly character. "

Actual Dune Messiah scene:

Stilgar: "Paul, Hitler was a rookie compared to you! You've killed millions more than Hitler ever did!!!"

Paul: "..."

(I am not complaining about Lego morality though dammit, I loved the 2021 film and the book I want this set!)

@CapnRex101 said:
" @Classicsmiley said:
" @CapnRex101 The US price on LEGO.com is $164.99."

Yes, the article has been updated.

For reference, the set is currently shown on the Target website costing $149.99, so I expect either the Target website or LEGO.com will be updated at some point:

https://www.target.com/p/lego-icons-dune-atreides-royal-ornithopter-build-and-display-set-10327/-/A-89144337 "

Thanks for pointing out the Target pre-order. Ordered mine and got another 5% off using the Target Red Card.

Somehow, I think I have always wanted this set…
Go there riding an ornithopter!

@Waksplat said:
"I have to say I'm a bit underwhelmed by the design. The figures look good, but I was expecting a better looking build for the price. The orange Guardian's ship was cheaper and looked better."

I'm going to caveat this now I've seen some of the short videos doing the rounds; the mechanisms are great, but it's still a bit big and rather unfinished looking. Love the cockpit area though

Duncan Idaho! Why’d they put that loser in this? All the guy does is _die_! Eh, it does give Jason Momoa a second minifig, along with DCEU Aquaman.

@missedoutagain:
Normal minifig, long dress. In the Lynch film, he’s the guy with all the blisters, the black rubber fetish wear, and who looks like he at two other people. In the Sci-Fi Channel miniseries, he’s the guy who ends up living inside the mind of Paul’s sister in the second miniseries (he was about the least memorable cast member, so that’s all I can recall about him).

@WizardOfOss:
If you mean the adventure game that came out first, they did have ornithopters, but they looked different. They were how you initially traveled from one location to another. Or rather _IT_ was how you travelled, since you only got one, and it stayed wherever you left it. If you ended up in a different location, it was a long walk back. Later in the game, you learned how to summon sandworms, and could just hail a ride anywhere, anytime, and the poor ornithopter quickly gets abandoned.

If you’re talking the Dune II real-time strategy game, a version was probably in that, too, but I hated the game and don’t remember much about it.

@TheOtherMike:
No, but I was thinking it’d be cool if they released a grudge match set featuring a 3-way battle between brickbuilt sandworm, Balrog, and rancor.

@Skut:
I’m waiting for a minifig-scale titular character from the fourth book…

@Endermen39 said:
"This looks really cool and I would probably get it if I knew what Dune is. Can someone please explain to me the plot? It looks very dystopian so I’ll probably like it but like I said I have no idea what Dune is."

The Spice must flow. Or the water. Depends on who you ask.

I had high hopes for this, and when I first saw it I didn't care for it at first, but after watching the video of the functionality it's pretty clear that this is at its core a Technic set, and looking at it through that lens it's pretty damn good. Still would've preferred a pure display model though, personally speaking.

@Rolodzeo said:
"That Baron minifig is selling me this set."

Hate to admit it, but same for me.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Endermen39 said:
"This looks really cool and I would probably get it if I knew what Dune is. Can someone please explain to me the plot? It looks very dystopian so I’ll probably like it but like I said I have no idea what Dune is."

The Spice must flow. Or the water. Depends on who you ask."

I’m now confused. When I hear “spice” my mind instantly goes to Star Wars.
Edit: I just watched the trailer. I guess I was half right. It’s like a dystopian Star Wars.

@JPKuiper said:
"...
EDIT: you can see some of its features in action in the RacingBrick video. It is VERY swooshable!

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/54tCYLMzTRw "

I've never really been super into the Dune universe but that video I think may have sold me. I don't know if it technically counts as a spaceship, but, eh, close enough! (The same reasoning behind my purchase of 71756 )

Boy, I sure hope kids don't have trouble sitting the minifig with such a long cloth piece! That was the reason for killing off cloth kamas for clones, right LEGO? ...Right?

Ding ding ding! first pre order on sight in a long time, massive dune fan, great ship, great figures and another banger from Mike P.

MAXIMUM SAGGING!!!!!!!

Attreides is Green, still suits too gray, but Baron’s tunic is here to stay.

That minifig fabric is wild.

I wonder how well or not it will sell, very specific set.

@darthnorman said:
"The red (and blue) stuff NEEDS to be replaced, otherwise pretty cool. Are these new wing/blade pieces?"

Yes i'm pretty sure they are

I thought this will be another forgettable display piece but boy I was wrong...
This looks like perfect set for me. It has the right Lego spirit, functionality and stuff.

When we getting a 2 in 1 sandworm Lego set with attachable ***SPOILER*** parts to customize it?

(If you know, you know.)

Stellan skarsgard has now gotten 3 figures in 2 years(3 cuz this set releases in 2024,but whatever. The other 2 are luthen rael from andor and Erik selvig from the to be revaled avengers tower.

@Maxbricks14 said:
" @darthnorman said:
"The red (and blue) stuff NEEDS to be replaced, otherwise pretty cool. Are these new wing/blade pieces?"

Yes i'm pretty sure they are"

They are indeed. Mike Psiaki mentions in the presentation they were the limiting factor for the scale of the model. They are ~40 modules long, significantly bigger than the ones on the Technic Helicopter

(EDIT: link to the video, info at the 3:40 mark)

https://youtu.be/qiWzKOuhPqQ&t=220s

@GenericLegoFan said:
"Stellan skarsgard has now gotten 3 figures in 2 years(3 cuz this set releases in 2024,but whatever. The other 2 are luthen rael from andor and Erik selvig from the to be revaled avengers tower. "

Did he get a figure as Bootstrap Bill in the Pirates of the Caribbean sets?

@PurpleDave said:
" @Endermen39 said:
"This looks really cool and I would probably get it if I knew what Dune is. Can someone please explain to me the plot? It looks very dystopian so I’ll probably like it but like I said I have no idea what Dune is."

The Spice must flow. Or the water. Depends on who you ask."

Or blood! Gosh, I’m sorry. I skipped a whole third of the plot. You must have been so confused!

@JPKuiper said:
" @Maxbricks14 said:
" @darthnorman said:
"The red (and blue) stuff NEEDS to be replaced, otherwise pretty cool. Are these new wing/blade pieces?"

Yes i'm pretty sure they are"

They are indeed. Mike Psiaki mentions in the presentation they were the limiting factor for the scale of the model. They are ~40 modules long, significantly bigger than the ones on the Technic Helicopter "

They are 48 modules long and lighter than the Technic Helicopter ones. He also stated that the front windscreen is new and is supposed to be a call back to the old Jedi Starfighter windscreen.

@PurpleDave said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Endermen39 said:
"This looks really cool and I would probably get it if I knew what Dune is. Can someone please explain to me the plot? It looks very dystopian so I’ll probably like it but like I said I have no idea what Dune is."

The Spice must flow. Or the water. Depends on who you ask."

Or blood! Gosh, I’m sorry. I skipped a whole third of the plot. You must have been so confused!"

I was extremely confused. A lot of people help clear me up about what it is about. I’m a huge Star Wars OT PT and what Disney calls “legends” (which is basically the former LucasArts which they destroyed) fan and still haven’t heard of of Dune until this set was rumored. I honestly assumed it was a dystopian book based on how the characters and vehicles looked which was somewhat similar to the Hunger Games and the Divergent series.

Will there be more Dune sets soon?!

@xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Bricklunch said:
"The Baron is bad enough but what Paul does....scheesh (avoiding any spoilers here). Not a lego-friendly character. "

Actual Dune Messiah scene:

Stilgar: "Paul, Hitler was a rookie compared to you! You've killed millions more than Hitler ever did!!!"

Paul: "..."

(I am not complaining about Lego morality though dammit, I loved the 2021 film and the book I want this set!)"

Wow, that’s quite a statement to make in a book released less than 30 years after the war. Wait a second, the book takes place 20,000 years in the future and they’re making WWII references??

@xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Endermen39 said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @Endermen39 said:
"This looks really cool and I would probably get it if I knew what Dune is. Can someone please explain to me the plot? It looks very dystopian so I’ll probably like it but like I said I have no idea what Dune is."

The Spice must flow. Or the water. Depends on who you ask."

Or blood! Gosh, I’m sorry. I skipped a whole third of the plot. You must have been so confused!"

I was extremely confused. A lot of people help clear me up about what it is about. I’m a huge Star Wars OT PT and what Disney calls “legends” (which is basically the former LucasArts which they destroyed) fan and still haven’t heard of of Dune until this set was rumored. I honestly assumed it was a dystopian book based on how the characters and vehicles looked which was somewhat similar to the Hunger Games and the Divergent series."

Really veering off topic but first;

1) The parent company of Star Wars is Lucasfilm. LucasArts was the video game division of that company and had no complete control over the Star Wars canon.

2) "Legends" is not destroyed. While not canon anymore, you can still go to a bookstore and buy almost any book from that era still kept in print. If anything the only thing in Star Wars canon that is destroyed is George's own original films, which have been vaulted since 2004 and haven't had a wide release since in favor of the Special Editions.

3) I am going to sound really smug saying this... but if you are a huge Star Wars fan who doesn't know what Dune is it is probably time to expand your sci-fi and fantasy horizons. The works of classic Western and Samurai films (especially Kirosawa), World War 2 history, the Joseph Campbell's heroes journey, Asimov's Foundation, Buck Rodgers, Flash Gordon, and Dune will teach you more about Star Wars than Star Wars can sometimes say about itself. "

I already know that Star Wars was based off the Cold War and had several scenes that were based off of dog fights from WWII. I also got into Star Wars from my Dad and my Uncle and nobody in my family has mentioned Dune.
I know the parent company of Lucas’s Star Wars is LucasFilm and after Disney bought LucasFilm, ILM, LucasArts and Skywalker Ranch they destroyed LucasArts and gave the Star Wars game rights to EA. I truly believe that the Star Wars games such as Dark Alliance, KOTOR and the Force Unleashed is far more canon than any of the shows and movies that Disney has made since 2012.

Banth --> bantha.

A totally unexpected but very welcome one-off (for now, at least). I love the epic sci-fi vibe of the movie.

@Endermen39 said:
"
They are 48 modules long."

They cannot be 48 modules (>38cm/15inch) long: that would make 2 wings nearly as wide as the complete set, not leaving room for the fuselage which is at least 10-12 modules wide as well.

This is a surprising set on many fronts. First, the fact that Dune is getting a LEGO set at all. It wasn't a license I would have ever expected LEGO to have. Second, the relatively inexpensive price point for what seems to be (at least for now) a one-off exclusive set. I haven't seen either of the movies yet (although I did just read the book) so I'm not sure if this is something I'll pick up or not, but it's definitely very cool for people who are big fans of the franchise.

Can't wait to get this so I can swoosh around the house chanting,
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."
Boy....can't wait!

@Timsterino said:
"Ding ding ding! first pre order on sight in a long time, massive dune fan, great ship, great figures and another banger from Mike P."

Same. Can't wait for this one, looks great!

Also, I think the price is reasonable for what we're getting. Everything is more expensive in our brave new world.

@xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Bricklunch said:
"The Baron is bad enough but what Paul does....scheesh (avoiding any spoilers here). Not a lego-friendly character. "

Actual Dune Messiah scene:

Stilgar: "Paul, Hitler was a rookie compared to you! You've killed millions more than Hitler ever did!!!"

Paul: "..."

(I am not complaining about Lego morality though dammit, I loved the 2021 film and the book I want this set!)"

Exactly. Can change the 'M' to a 'B' in 'Millions'. Going to get interesting to see how the films treat the later books. The initial book has a classic protagonist ... later books have some navigating to do to keep him as a sympathetic character (navigating pun intended).

@JPKuiper said:
" @Endermen39 said:
"
They are 48 modules long."

They cannot be 48 modules (>38cm/15inch) long: that would make 2 wings nearly as wide as the complete set, not leaving room for the fuselage which is at least 10-12 modules wide as well.
"

This video has the designer reveal in it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_rTlMMFr89g

Edit: you’re right it’s 40 modules. I somehow thought it was 48. It might have been because the wings are 8 modules bigger than the technic helicopter blades.

Wow that's a lot of comments!
I think it looks awesome and the functionality is to be particularly praised. Yes the figs are great (would have preferred the 1984 ones), but the playability is what will sell this set. Beautiful action to switch the blades backwards for a deep fast dive, and the landing gear retraction looks very smooth.
Compliments to the designer for many many hours work.
Kudos

The wings surely don't retract with a 180-degree rotation. Seems to be 90 degrees at best; possibly slightly less.

And the award for tallest minifigure of all time goes to...

@Bricklunch said:
" @xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Bricklunch said:
"The Baron is bad enough but what Paul does....scheesh (avoiding any spoilers here). Not a lego-friendly character. "

Actual Dune Messiah scene:

Stilgar: "Paul, Hitler was a rookie compared to you! You've killed millions more than Hitler ever did!!!"

Paul: "..."

(I am not complaining about Lego morality though dammit, I loved the 2021 film and the book I want this set!)"

Exactly. Can change the 'M' to a 'B' in 'Millions'. Going to get interesting to see how the films treat the later books. The initial book has a classic protagonist ... later books have some navigating to do to keep him as a sympathetic character (navigating pun intended). "

Herbert doesn't try to keep Paul as a sympathetic character. He always intended Paul's arc to go from hero to villain.

Also, I don't think I've seen a LEGO set with this long of a lag time between pre-order and when it ships. It makes me think this will be a super-limited release.

@Endermen39:
Besides the six official books, and all his son’s fanfic, there have been three notable attempts to put the story on film. The first was David Lynch, who threw out a bunch of the workings of the story, made a really cool film…but is largely reviled by hardcore fans of the books for all the stuff he (rather intentionally) got wrong. Cast was great (except Piter, who I’m pretty sure was stoned on the pile of drugs he paid to get the role when he performed the role). Production quality was, at the time, also great. Stuff just didn’t look, or work, like the books said they should. Key plot elements were skipped. Or reinvented. Or stuff was thrown in that had no basis in the original text. Notable for featuring Kyle McLachlan, Sir Patrick Stewart, and Sting (the musician).

Then Sci-Fi Channel (before changing their name to SyFy) gave it a shot. They made a miniseries. Cast was…not as great (except for Piter, who could have been cast with a lobotomized turnip and been an improvement). Look…made a lot more sense, but had a noticeably smaller budget. There was weird use of colored lighting to convey subtextual information to the audience (I can’t complain, since I’ve done the same for a college play…and it’s also been done in The Matrix, and various other films). It’s more faithful to the story, and covers a lot that was skipped, or rushed, previously.

They also got good enough viewership to greenlight a second miniseries that combines the second and third books. Not as great as the first one (but neither were the books it was based on), but it’s notable for James McAcoy, and perhaps the scene-chewingest performance Susan Sarandon has given where she plays the youngest sister of a character played by someone 27 years her junior. Just a terrible casting choice.

The new version split the first book into two films. Big screen budget, but also a longer runtime that allows the story to progress rather than hurry. Of course, we’ve only seen half at this point, but it’s easily to e superior of either previous attempt. I kinda hope they move forward with the other books, but I’m not sure how they should deal with the lack of a true seventh novel to conclude the story. I kinda hope they’d loop in the fan community to correct some of the more egregious blunders (which are big enough I’ve heard of them, even though I stopped reading when there were only six books total). But, first book is by far considered the best, and it will soon have the full epic presentation it deserves.

@GenericLegoFan said:
"Also I saw the duckbricks video,this thing is huge."

Could this third rock from the Sun produce a more annoying Lego tuber than ol' ducklips?

Edit: That said, I think he's actually entertaining on Lego Masters. Probably because he is in VERY limited doses. DB and his hoarder basement induce equal amounts of claustrophobia and nausea.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Endermen39:
Besides the six official books, and all his son’s fanfic, there have been three notable attempts to put the story on film. The first was David Lynch, who threw out a bunch of the workings of the story, made a really cool film…but is largely reviled by hardcore fans of the books for all the stuff he (rather intentionally) got wrong. Cast was great (except Piter, who I’m pretty sure was stoned on the pile of drugs he paid to get the role when he performed the role). Production quality was, at the time, also great. Stuff just didn’t look, or work, like the books said they should. Key plot elements were skipped. Or reinvented. Or stuff was thrown in that had no basis in the original text. Notable for featuring Kyle McLachlan, Sir Patrick Stewart, and Sting (the musician).

Then Sci-Fi Channel (before changing their name to SyFy) gave it a shot. They made a miniseries. Cast was…not as great (except for Piter, who could have been cast with a lobotomized turnip and been an improvement). Look…made a lot more sense, but had a noticeably smaller budget. There was weird use of colored lighting to convey subtextual information to the audience (I can’t complain, since I’ve done the same for a college play…and it’s also been done in The Matrix, and various other films). It’s more faithful to the story, and covers a lot that was skipped, or rushed, previously.

They also got good enough viewership to greenlight a second miniseries that combines the second and third books. Not as great as the first one (but neither were the books it was based on), but it’s notable for James McAcoy, and perhaps the scene-chewingest performance Susan Sarandon has given where she plays the youngest sister of a character played by someone 27 years her junior. Just a terrible casting choice.

The new version split the first book into two films. Big screen budget, but also a longer runtime that allows the story to progress rather than hurry. Of course, we’ve only seen half at this point, but it’s easily to e superior of either previous attempt. I kinda hope they move forward with the other books, but I’m not sure how they should deal with the lack of a true seventh novel to conclude the story. I kinda hope they’d loop in the fan community to correct some of the more egregious blunders (which are big enough I’ve heard of them, even though I stopped reading when there were only six books total). But, first book is by far considered the best, and it will soon have the full epic presentation it deserves."

The constant unfaithfulness to the fan community and the original plot reminds me of what Rian Johnson did to Luke Skywalker, completely ruined the character because he felt like he had to unravel Luke’s character and all of the other nonsense that was already established in the original trilogy. Not to mention that be mad Luke this sad old man who lost all faith. He literally believed that his father would turn back to the light and was trying to rebuild the Jedi order after the fall of the empire. The thing that probably bugs me most about Rian’s interpretation of Luke is the only reason why his nephew fell to the dark side is because Luke tried to kill him because he felt a presence of the dark side in Ben Solo.

@Bricklunch said:
" @xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Bricklunch said:
"The Baron is bad enough but what Paul does....scheesh (avoiding any spoilers here). Not a lego-friendly character. "

Actual Dune Messiah scene:

Stilgar: "Paul, Hitler was a rookie compared to you! You've killed millions more than Hitler ever did!!!"

Paul: "..."

(I am not complaining about Lego morality though dammit, I loved the 2021 film and the book I want this set!)"

Exactly. Can change the 'M' to a 'B' in 'Millions'. Going to get interesting to see how the films treat the later books. The initial book has a classic protagonist ... later books have some navigating to do to keep him as a sympathetic character (navigating pun intended). "

Yeah Billions is more accurate to be completely honest. It is one of the more shocking scenes of Dune Messiah especially with how Stilgar is so adamant that "Hitler was such a n00b" while Paul has this dawning horror of what his life's work has done in that he has become infamous through-out the galaxy.

The thing that makes it so great is that from one angle one can still argue Paul is THE hero. It is a book series about "the path to hell paved with the best intentions" and from a classical hero's stand point Paul is justified in his plot to get revenge on the Harkonnens and the Emperor and usurp their claims. Dune is just intelligent enough to realize though that it can explain how terrifying the idea of the "good guys" winning can be showing the full horror of such an absolute victory leading to a galaxy spanning jihad is.

There are discussions that the new films will be a trilogy with Dune Part 1, Part 2 then Messiah. So I am very excited to see how that gets adapted, since it feels like Messiah would make a dark end to the "trilogy" if that is the film series we end up getting.

@missedoutagain said:
" @lomis said:
" @melkor23 said:
" @lomis said:
"This is really impressive. I think it's worth seeing the features of this set in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWzKOuhPqQ"

Video is private."

How odd. I was able to watch it earlier. But now I cannot. My apologies."

working now"

Wow! I always thought Mike was a cool designer. But, this video makes me appreciate him so much more. Fantastic!

@PurpleDave said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
"Where's the Sting minifig?"

71001-7 "

Noice. Celtics won.

Edit: (energy vampire)

@Endermen39:
That’s comparable, except there was clearly supposed to be at least one more official book when Herbert died. Lucas has declared that the SW saga is six films long, and they’re all done. You can (and should) ignore anything that follows Ep6 according to Disney. Your life won’t be lacking for it, and you won’t endlessly wonder how the conclusion would have gone.

@Endermen39 said:
"I know the parent company of Lucas’s Star Wars is LucasFilm and after Disney bought LucasFilm, ILM, LucasArts and Skywalker Ranch they destroyed LucasArts and gave the Star Wars game rights to EA. I truly believe that the Star Wars games such as Dark Alliance, KOTOR and the Force Unleashed is far more canon than any of the shows and movies that Disney has made since 2012."

My point though you can still purchase KOTOR I & II right now on multiple systems, or the Force Unleashed, or the Dark Forces series (I assume you meant Dark Forces as there is no such thing as "Dark Alliance.") I played through KOTOR II just a few months back around the same time Mandalorian Season 3 was airing. Nothing about them being "canon" or "non-canon" changes the quality of those games, and frankly I don't care since it is all fictional made up space magic nonsense to begin with.

Wooo that’s a nice piece of pizza.

New canopy piece looks awesome, too. Can’t wait to see it in other sets.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Endermen39 :
That’s comparable, except there was clearly supposed to be at least one more official book when Herbert died. Lucas has declared that the SW saga is six films long, and they’re all done. You can (and should) ignore anything that follows Ep6 according to Disney. Your life won’t be lacking for it, and you won’t endlessly wonder how the conclusion would have gone."

Yeah I do ignore everything that is rushed out by Disney. Lucas was actually working on a Sequel Trilogy around 2009-2010 but decided to sell Star Wars because he wanted to raise his daughter and build a museum.
The guy who actually talked Lucas into selling Star Wars said Disney would make Lucas’s sequels but soon scrapped them and gave the company to Kathleen Kennedy (we all know how that went).

Lucas’s trilogy was supposed to be about the daughter much like how the prequels were about the father and the original was about the son, Luke trying to recreate the Jedi order and Leia recreating the Republic. The Remnants of the empire started their own gangs. Maul would return similar to his appearance with the spider legs in clone wars, and his apprentice would be Darth Talon, together they would unite the underworld.

I’m horrible at explaining things. Here’s a 20 minute long video that basically says what I summarized:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6qDQ5Ae0AkA

@iabstract said:
" @Bricklunch said:
" @xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Bricklunch said:
"The Baron is bad enough but what Paul does....scheesh (avoiding any spoilers here). Not a lego-friendly character. "

Actual Dune Messiah scene:

Stilgar: "Paul, Hitler was a rookie compared to you! You've killed millions more than Hitler ever did!!!"

Paul: "..."

(I am not complaining about Lego morality though dammit, I loved the 2021 film and the book I want this set!)"

Exactly. Can change the 'M' to a 'B' in 'Millions'. Going to get interesting to see how the films treat the later books. The initial book has a classic protagonist ... later books have some navigating to do to keep him as a sympathetic character (navigating pun intended). "

Herbert doesn't try to keep Paul as a sympathetic character. He always intended Paul's arc to go from hero to villain.

Also, I don't think I've seen a LEGO set with this long of a lag time between pre-order and when it ships. It makes me think this will be a super-limited release."

Entirely agree. Just a difficult thing to pull off in cinemas where protagonists are what studios crave to invest. Good reason for making films of the start of the series but not seeing it through to the end (if the series ever does properly come to an end without subsequent authors adding more books that is).

Imagine this is a fairly niche lego release so imagine it will have a limited run.

Would like a lego sandworm & harvester though (just not at the same scale as the ornithopter obviously).

@xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Endermen39 said:
"I know the parent company of Lucas’s Star Wars is LucasFilm and after Disney bought LucasFilm, ILM, LucasArts and Skywalker Ranch they destroyed LucasArts and gave the Star Wars game rights to EA. I truly believe that the Star Wars games such as Dark Alliance, KOTOR and the Force Unleashed is far more canon than any of the shows and movies that Disney has made since 2012."

My point though you can still purchase KOTOR I & II right now on multiple systems, or the Force Unleashed, or the Dark Forces series (I assume you meant Dark Forces as there is no such thing as "Dark Alliance.") I played through KOTOR II just a few months back around the same time Mandalorian Season 3 was airing. Nothing about them being "canon" or "non-canon" changes the quality of those games, and frankly I don't care since it is all fictional made up space magic nonsense to begin with."

Yeah I meant Dark Forces.

Ooh I like this! Especially since this has a "retail" tag, so I can hope for a discount down the line!

@xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Endermen39 said:
" The guy who actually talked Lucas into selling Star Wars said Disney would make Lucas’s sequels but soon scrapped them and gave the company to Kathleen Kennedy (we all know how that went).
"

You know that Kathy was selected by Lucas as his successor right? She has a long career that predates Star Wars particularly working with George's friend Steven Spielberg & George on Indiana Jones, along with Spielberg productions such as Back to the Future, An American Tail, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Hook, Tiny Tunes Adventures & Animaniacs, Schindler's List, Jurassic Park and Lincoln (sure she worked on the Avatar the Last Air Bender movie as well but not everything can be a hit I guess).

I know that the YouTube grifter gallery loves to pretend Kathleen Kennedy was some sort of malicious ooze that came out of nowhere to "steal rob and destroy Lucas's vision" but she is frankly one of the most accomplished producers in the industry, even without counting the Star Wars stuff (which for as much as the sequels are maligned we have to also fairly consider other projects under Kathleen's tenure such as the "freaking Peabody Award winning" Andor). I agree the sequels are a hot mess, and some of that blame lands on Kathleen as producer, but to be impartial we need to recognize there is a huge grift culture of YouTubers who have made her a scape goat in clickbait tabloid videos. She is an easy name to pin hate on especially with absurd rumors of some sort of "Lucasfilm civil war" but looking at the big picture reveals that she certainly isn't the incompetent rube YouTubers make her out to be.

Let's be honest as well, had Lucas made his own sequel trilogy ideas people would have hated it. As angry as people are towards the sequels, it is still only a minor fraction of the "knives out" attitudes the fandom had towards George himself during the prequel trilogy. People HATED George for those films and it has only been in this post "The Clone Wars" era that rose tinted goggles have begun to re-asses the prequel trilogy as a net positive for the franchise.

"

I actually really like the Prequels. Sure the writing and editing was horrible but the idea was there. It was about the father much like how the original was about the son. I remember reading when the phantom menace came out Marcia Lucas, George’s ex-wife who edited the original trilogy, cried in the parking lot after the movie finished because of the horrible editing and writing. Lucas often viewed writing as a chore but he was great at coming up with ideas. He would often have a team of writers working on one script.

I will admit that the first 2 prequels were bad but then the sequels came along and made everyone forget about how poor the prequels were. The Revenge of the Sith redeemed the first 2 prequels as well. Without those factors and if you look past the terrible writing the prequels were actually really good, they introduced characters such as Maul, Qui Gon and Dooku along with Lucas’s favorite character Jar Jar Binks.

You also have to take in mind that the Prequels were one of the first movies with entirely digital special effects and Jar Jar was the first digital special effects character.

@Bricklunch said:
" @xboxtravis7992 said:
" @Bricklunch said:
"The Baron is bad enough but what Paul does....scheesh (avoiding any spoilers here). Not a lego-friendly character. "

Actual Dune Messiah scene:

Stilgar: "Paul, Hitler was a rookie compared to you! You've killed millions more than Hitler ever did!!!"

Paul: "..."

(I am not complaining about Lego morality though dammit, I loved the 2021 film and the book I want this set!)"

Exactly. Can change the 'M' to a 'B' in 'Millions'. Going to get interesting to see how the films treat the later books. The initial book has a classic protagonist ... later books have some navigating to do to keep him as a sympathetic character (navigating pun intended). "

Yep, Lego does is often. Look at how they keep making Anakin figures. Even though he killed kids. All those young Jedi's in training.

@picopirate said:
"I must not buy lego, lego is the wallet killer. Lego is the little death that obliterates finances."

Too late…

@picopirate said:
"I must not buy lego, lego is the wallet killer. Lego is the little death that obliterates finances."

NAY! You must buy LEGO. LEGO is the portfolio enhancer, LEGO is the Phoenix that can yield ROI!

This looks really great. In all honesty I'm very excited to buy this. The functions are really cool, it looks good (all the pins are replaceable by black or grey equivalents), and the figures are just great. I'm definitely looking forward to getting my hands on this in February.

Dune: like Star Wars but for Emos

Welp, I just pre-ordered at Target for $149.99. Maybe I’ll get lucky and they won’t raise the price before shipping in February. However, their preorder policy seems to say that you’ll get the price in effect at the time of shipping. They spin it as “you’ll get the sale price if it’s on sale”, but I suspect the opposite is also true.

@darthnorman said:
"The red (and blue) stuff NEEDS to be replaced, otherwise pretty cool. Are these new wing/blade pieces?"

It's time for Lego to recognise adults as capable builders and produce parts that do not disturb the overall look of the model.

On the other hand I watched a video about this set. It's impressive in size and functions. Not that I'ld buy but still, it will make fans of both Dune and Lego happy.

I was not aware of the rumors about this set, what an amazing surprise! I have always been a huge fan of the Dune books and I love the new movie. This set is almost perfect - I would have preferred to get Stilgar rather than Liet Kynes and I find the Baron Harkonnen a bit too tall with its cape, but these are details. Day one purchase for me !

Not my cup of tea,
I saw the Dune movie on Netflix, but didn't find it very interesting. Especially the Sci-Fi vehicles were kinda lame. Like this one,...not very original.
But seems like many other people like it, so kudos to them.

@Pekingduckman said:
"I'm still surprised that this was approved, considering that Dune isn't exactly a kid friendly sci-fi franchise like Star Wars. You have a depraved Baron who enjoys taking heart plugs out of victims and bleed them to death, drinks from crushed animals, and employs servants with missing organs that tends to his boils. And that's not mentioning the horror that is the Guild Navigator and the Box.

If this is due to relaxed guidelines on licensing, Lego should go all the way and take a look at other in-demand IPs like Star Trek and Halo."

Star Trek license is owned by BlueBrixx and Halo by MEGA from Mattel.

@Brick_Master said:
"why is it a *royal* ornithopter and not a *ducal* ornithopter? Leto's a duke, not a king. Even if he got it from the emperor it would be an *imperial* ornithopter...."

Haha that's a very valid question! I do not have the answer, but royalty/nobility are often overlapping and confusing. We should try to ask His Royal Highness the Grand Duke of Luxembourg for his opinion on this! (That is his actual title, although he lives in a Ducal Palace instead of a Royal Palace, which supports your point)

@Altair1970:
Kynes is one of the characters who was actually on board when this ornithopter is used, though. The Baron isn’t even on the planet, and we haven’t met Chani at this point in the story.

@melkor23 said:
" @Pekingduckman said:
"I'm still surprised that this was approved, considering that Dune isn't exactly a kid friendly sci-fi franchise like Star Wars. You have a depraved Baron who enjoys taking heart plugs out of victims and bleed them to death, drinks from crushed animals, and employs servants with missing organs that tends to his boils. And that's not mentioning the horror that is the Guild Navigator and the Box.

If this is due to relaxed guidelines on licensing, Lego should go all the way and take a look at other in-demand IPs like Star Trek and Halo."

Star Trek license is owned by BlueBrixx and Halo by MEGA from Mattel."

You think star wars kid friendly? they play light sabers and kill there opponent. they shoot blasters kill enemy. they have slave trade.. gladiators pits... think

parents who may not have otherwise considered it a great idea to have little kids watch as a grown man’s hand is hewn from his body by a lightsaber.

depends point view alot probably kid friendly some are dangerous..

I'd love have star trek, think lego had chance at one time aquire ip... but they don't/can't get now.

Did read the books. Played the game for years, now my son is taking over. Not really into buying tv stuff Lego... I would consider a good Devestator though..

@JPKuiper said:
" @Brick_Master said:
"why is it a *royal* ornithopter and not a *ducal* ornithopter? Leto's a duke, not a king. Even if he got it from the emperor it would be an *imperial* ornithopter...."

Haha that's a very valid question! I do not have the answer, but royalty/nobility are often overlapping and confusing. We should try to ask His Royal Highness the Grand Duke of Luxembourg for his opinion on this! (That is his actual title, although he lives in a Ducal Palace instead of a Royal Palace, which supports your point)"

So I actually googled him, out of curiosity.... it appears he's from a cadet branch of the house of Bourbon, which is still the Spanish royal family, and so the title "Royal Highness" appears to be a vestige of this, possibly. Also, the title "Grand Duke" is superior to a mere "Duke", ranking equal with a king, so perhaps Royal Highness goes with that?

Either way, I'm pretty sure he's an exception, and neither one applies to Leto... although possibly someone should buy the Grand Duke of Luxembourg an ornithopter and ask him what he'd call it, just to check.... :)

@ChazTheMinifig said:
"And the award for tallest minifigure of all time goes to..."
Wait for the mech version...

I really love the Fact that the D U N E spelling on the Box is made of LEGO Minifigure Hands. Genius

@iabstract said:
" Also, I don't think I've seen a LEGO set with this long of a lag time between pre-order and when it ships. It makes me think this will be a super-limited release."

I wonder if Lego just wanted to get out ahead of the inevitable leaks for once (something they are often quite bad at doing). The timing of the release makes sense from a marketing perspective. The set ships in February, and the Dune sequel comes out in March. February will be peak-movie-hype.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Endermen39:
Basically, back in the 60’s Frank Herbert wrote what was shaping up to be The Lord of the Rings for sci-fi. And then he died. What I’ve heard is that it was supposed to be a trilogy in front, a lone “bridge” novel in the middle, and a trilogy to conclude the story. So, seven novels, each one more paper-weighty than the last. He finished six (later, his son would team up with perhaps the most reviled writer of EU SW novels to “finish” the main story, albeit basically ignoring every shred of evidence that fans had dug out for decades regarding how the story was supposed to end, before moving on to shoveling out 2-3x more prequel novels than the original author had written to begin with).

Dune is set something like 10,000 years in Earth’s future, after humanity has spread across the skies. Skynet basically happened, so computers, and AI, are banned across the known universe. Humans are trained to serve in their stead. Melange (the spice) enables the human mind to become far more powerful, allowing people to do crazy things like control their voice in a way that makes it impossible to disobey them, or communicate with telepathy, or see into the future and selectively breed people in a form of eugenics. Or fold space to make interstellar space travel fast.

Problem is, spice only comes from one world, and whoever controls it has incredible wealth and power. Problem is, there’s an Emperor who gets jealous when people are more powerful/more loved/more wealthy than he is (and no idea why he doesn’t just move there his damn self). Problem is, sandworms also like to eat anyone and anything that disturbs the spice, including the harvesters used to mine the stuff. Actually, they’ll eat you if you just happen to walk by some spice. Or really anywhere they can reach you, even if there’s no spice nearby.

Noble Houses rule entire planets at this point. Several powerful guilds/factions, three Houses (Atreides, Harkonnen, and Corrine), and a bunch of rebellious nomads all get thrown together in a struggle to make sure the spice flows. Or water. Or blood."

That is an excellent description of the setup - before the actual story unfold. In the Lynch version, three-quarter of the movie tries to establish this setup. Then there is the action - just like the battle of the 5 armies at the end of LotR. (Even the fortress of Arrakis is flanked by a mountain range and is not too dissimilar to the door of Erebor - as a combat terrain.

@HOBBES said:
"
That is an excellent description of the setup - before the actual story unfold. In the Lynch version, three-quarter of the movie tries to establish this setup. Then there is the action - just like the battle of the 5 armies at the end of LotR. (Even the fortress of Arrakis is flanked by a mountain range and is not too dissimilar to the door of Erebor - as a combat terrain."

The inverse happens with the 2021 film in a sense. While we do get some exposition as to why the spice is important, the stuff about Thinking Machines and the Great Butlerian Jihad is never mentioned at all. I did find this review on YouTube which I think establishes why the 2021 film made the choices it did, taking a similar approach to Lord of the Rings in narrowing the scope of the world to focus on just Paul's perspective and using visual storytelling to allude to other aspects of the worldbuilding. https://youtu.be/LVnEOW27vyc?si=QVg2kSFzMmjh3t09

Another interesting thing about the modern film is the input on the "lore" from Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson. I know those two get a lot of hate for their novels and extensions to the universe after Frank's death; but admittedly they seem to have done the research into how the world is supposed to work in their attempts to imitate Frank's vision; and stuff like the 2d20 Dune RPG also benefitted from Brian and Kevin's input into the "lore." What I am more curious to see is the HBO plans to adapt some of the Brian and Kevin books into a TV series about the Bene Gesseritt sisterhood... that seems a lot more fraught with risk since while Brian and Kevin can quote the "lore" like a dictionary, it seems their writing and storytelling is what made fans hate them to begin with.

@xboxtravis7992 said:
" @HOBBES said:
"
That is an excellent description of the setup - before the actual story unfold. In the Lynch version, three-quarter of the movie tries to establish this setup. Then there is the action - just like the battle of the 5 armies at the end of LotR. (Even the fortress of Arrakis is flanked by a mountain range and is not too dissimilar to the door of Erebor - as a combat terrain."

The inverse happens with the 2021 film in a sense. While we do get some exposition as to why the spice is important, the stuff about Thinking Machines and the Great Butlerian Jihad is never mentioned at all. I did find this review on YouTube which I think establishes why the 2021 film made the choices it did, taking a similar approach to Lord of the Rings in narrowing the scope of the world to focus on just Paul's perspective and using visual storytelling to allude to other aspects of the worldbuilding. https://youtu.be/LVnEOW27vyc?si=QVg2kSFzMmjh3t09

Another interesting thing about the modern film is the input on the "lore" from Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson. I know those two get a lot of hate for their novels and extensions to the universe after Frank's death; but admittedly they seem to have done the research into how the world is supposed to work in their attempts to imitate Frank's vision; and stuff like the 2d20 Dune RPG also benefitted from Brian and Kevin's input into the "lore." What I am more curious to see is the HBO plans to adapt some of the Brian and Kevin books into a TV series about the Bene Gesseritt sisterhood... that seems a lot more fraught with risk since while Brian and Kevin can quote the "lore" like a dictionary, it seems their writing and storytelling is what made fans hate them to begin with. "

TV series? Wow I'm behind news.

@HOBBES:
Most of the basic setup is Cliffsnoted at the beginning by Irulan, isn’t it? Kinda like how Galadriel did the same for LotR. What I’m guessing you’re referring to is more localized world-building, through Paul’s eyes. It’s not so much the grand universal spread, but how stuff works on this specific planet. And a lot of it is stuff that Irulan would have had no business knowing when the movie starts, if ever.

@xboxtravis7992:
KJA gets a lot of hate in general just because his first entry into the SW EU, he said, “ooh, I know, what if they made _another_Death_Star_?” His Young Jedi stuff (which I believe was him exclusively) is actually pretty good, if you can get past the whole “being written for kids” feel of it all. I never checked out the Junior Jedi or whatever (Anakin Solo’s story, to parallel what Jacen and Jaina experienced in Young Jedi), so I don’t even know if that was him or someone else. But point is, maybe he should stick to tween fiction.

Anyways, regarding Dune, I’ve never read the After-D*U*N*E stuff, but the major hangup I’ve read about is that Frank very clearly hinted at the nature of the last two characters he introduced, which would fit within the entire story written up to that point. And then BH/KJA came along and went with an alternate theory that really came out of left field, as far as pretty much every other fan was concerned. So, unless they’re sitting on Frank’s notes where he specifically wrote, “Nope, it’s the other thing,” consensus is they guffed the landing. Animosity towards their conclusion has almost certainly tainted the reception of any prequel works.

@missedoutagain:
I’ve seen a sprinkling of articles that mostly just state that, yup, there’s a series in the works. Apparently they stopped talking about it once there was actual information to report:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune:_The_Sisterhood

It’ll be on Max, but no idea yet if they’ll also air it on HBO.

@PurpleDave, yeah I remember the "Sun Crusher" in Kevin's Star Wars books being very absurd. It was not a great moment in the Star Wars EU.

I have read one of the Rush tie ins he wrote with Neil Peart for Clockwork Angel's though. Not an award winning book, but it was a fun breezy read that had a lot of nice nods to the Canadian rock trio's history. The Peart-Anderson pairing as short lived as it was worked better than the Herbert-Anderson pairing it seems.

Love this for the functionality they've built into it, but the overall look of it is not as impressive (I kinda still want it though).

However I am very much looking forward to seeing someone mod this into an accurate looking dragonfly with proper bug eyes and longer legs and maybe some bright colours (and of course keep the flapping wings function).

Surely some clever clog MOC maker out there can make that happen, please?

off subject... Doctor Who going be Disney+ Be nice get newer set that.
sci-fi and all...

@Captain_M:
It has too many wings. I count eight, but dragonflies only have four.

Very nice set. The baron should have been a bigfig imho.

Does the Baron have ghost legs instead of regular minifig legs btw?

When you look closely at the image with the minifigures (on the white background) there seems to be a shape behind the cloth which looks a lot like ghost legs. He uses Holtzman suspensors in the books and movies because his legs cannot support his weight: so it might make sense to give him ghost legs?

@PurpleDave said:
" @Captain_M:
It has too many wings. I count eight, but dragonflies only have four."

Good spot, minor detail though, easily dealt with, 8-4=4, sorted. It's also made of plastic but we'll continue to ignore that for now ;)

@JPKuiper:
He’s got real legs in the film. They just don’t work correctly. Being that he spends so much time flying around, the long skirt is just a statement piece, like people who carve intricate designs into their prosthetic legs. It’s not like he has a vaporous lower body, which is what the ghost legs would represent. They also poke out in the back at the base, so they’d interfere with the drape of the skirt, which is already going to be messy since it’s going to ship flat and has to be given two 90° creases. In my experience, the bottom ends will almost certainly end up twisting, but maybe if it’s packed with a rigid backing that won’t be an issue in this case.

@Captain_M:
The mechanism is designed around eight, and is fairly complex, so I’m not sure how easy “-4” will be to achieve without looking like someone just hacked off all the extra wings on a mutant dragonfly. I’ve already built a large dragonfly, so I won’t feel particularly compelled to undertake this challenge:

https://www.maskofdestiny.com/news/prelude-to-a-dragon

@Bricklunch said:
Would like a lego sandworm & harvester though (just not at the same scale as the ornithopter obviously).

Oh man, I would love a sandworm and harvester too, now that you mention it lol. As for scale, the sandworm has to at least be big enough to eat a minifig. ;-)

@iabstract:
I can’t remember the one from the new movie, but I’ve seen the Lynch film often enough to know that, in that depiction, the one they “juice” isn’t big enough to eat a human. So, minifig-scale and “eats people” are definitely possible in the same set. Just, you know, not the one Paul summons.

@PurpleDave: Jumping back to 'giant minifigs', there was those weird incidences a few years ago of Lego...Mega-Figs(???) washing up on ocean beaches:
https://www.wired.com/2011/10/lego-man-beached/
It happened a few times, at a few beaches...not officially Lego though; a Dutch artist name Ego Leonard seems to be behind these...roughly 6-foot tall fiberglass statues popping up...

Anywho, on 'the set': Looks good, but I fell bad for TLG: they keep making/getting these deals with movies and such to make sets and figure to coincide with the release of the property...only to see said 'main thing' get delayed. Like how 'Minions 2' got delayed, WB just announced postponing 'Dune 2' 'til next year...'The Marvels' is till coming out on time...can't win for losing.:|

@lomis said:
"This is really impressive. I think it's worth seeing the features of this set in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiWzKOuhPqQ"

I'm not interested in Dune (either the series of books or anything derived from the books) but having seen this video I think I will probably buy the set (assuming it actually gets released). As a Technic mechanism it utterly rocks, and it's not an unreasonable price considering the new pieces and the complex build. In the poll after the press release I chose "Maybe" because I usually want to see a Brickset review of something so large and expensive, but in this case just seeing it being swooshed around by its enthusiastic designer was enough to make me commit to a purchase!

@brick_r:
Now, now, let’s not get into the rampant Dutch clone brand scene.

Regarding delays, yeah, WW84 and Black Widow each got one set, which released “on time”, and was basically end of life cycle by the time the films actually landed. Minions wasn’t quite so bad. They did release three sets on schedule, but were able to delay everything else until the film finally came out. They also extended the run of those first three sets so they were still available during the theatrical run.

Where it gets real messy is when there’s nothing to drive sales during the product window. It’s been noted that the SW theme had slumps during the 2-year gaps between Ep1&2, and again between Ep2&3, because there were no films or shows to draw attention to the theme. When a one-and-done launches without the film it’s meant to tie to, how does that impact overall sales for that model? Is the model going to last long enough to link up to the surge in popularity that a film can represent, or will it already be retired by then? If the latter, will they then perceive that this is a theme that’s not worth revisiting down the line solely because of a timing issue?

We saw something of this sort happen with Batman back in 2008. The theme ran three years, and had been scheduled to conclude. Retailers weren’t really keen on the final wave because “kids already have Batman”. But they didn’t really factor in the massive success of The Dark Knight that summer. I remember buying double copies of the entire 2008 wave the first time I found them, and thank goodness I did. That was also the last time I saw them at retail, except for when I stumbled across the two minifig keychains at a later date (which, again, the only time I saw them at retail, and only three left between the two characters combined).

I don't think Timothy's cheekbones are defined enough

That new trans-black canopy on the nose would be great for a SW Quadjumper.

@JDawg5 said:
" @benredstar said:
"What did Dark Tan do to earn this kind of rejection?"

Agreed. I was really looking forward to this set reveal, but I'm disappointed that the color scheme is far too dark. It makes it look like another generic Star Wars set, like that recent Cad Bane ship. If they had done this in tan / dark tan / browns, I think it would have been far more attractive and distinctive. Bummer. "

this is fair enough, however if you look at any of the images for the ornithopter from like behind the scenes or in artwork and stuff, its very clearly a dark grey, much closer to that at least than dark tan

Not a set I ever thought we would see from Lego!

I like the design and the features. Great work from Mike and the rest of the design team. It’s clearly something they were really excited to get into.

I like the minifigs and I’m glad they chose to include Baron Harkonen; a nice addition and made me laugh! Overall, they seem to have done a good job with the graphic design for the minifigs. I think dark green would have been a better option for the uniforms of Paul Atriedes and Duncan Idaho, ideally with dual-moulded legs for black boots.

Overall, however, a fantastic set. Probably not one I will jump on immediately (budget and space…) but definitely one to grab before it retires!

@Pekingduckman said:
"I'm still surprised that this was approved, considering that Dune isn't exactly a kid friendly sci-fi franchise like Star Wars. You have a depraved Baron who enjoys taking heart plugs out of victims and bleed them to death, drinks from crushed animals, and employs servants with missing organs that tends to his boils. And that's not mentioning the horror that is the Guild Navigator and the Box.

If this is due to relaxed guidelines on licensing, Lego should go all the way and take a look at other in-demand IPs like Star Trek and Halo."

You are thinking of the previous movie - in fact, you have pretty much chosen only added visuals that just occur in that movie, not even in the books, and not in the current movies!

@PurpleDave said:
"Duncan Idaho! Why’d they put that loser in this? All the guy does is _die_!
"

Spoiler: he gets better. Then goes on to have a very important role (although, yes, he does still die - a lot. So you will need to get many, many Idaho minifigs by the end).

@sgllama said:
" @PurpleDave said:
"Duncan Idaho! Why’d they put that loser in this? All the guy does is _die_!
"

Spoiler: he gets better. Then goes on to have a very important role (although, yes, he does still die - a lot. So you will need to get many, many Idaho minifigs by the end)."

That was kinda the joke. He died at least twice “on-screen”, and probably at least a couple hundred times “off-screen”.

Just pre-ordered this set with Galileo and Christmas Fun GWPs :-)