B:TAS Gotham City Skyline announced!

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Batman: The Animated Series Gotham City

Batman: The Animated Series Gotham City

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LEGO has today revealed the largest DC set ever produced and the first inspired by Batman: The Animated Series! The press release follows:

76271 Batman: The Animated Series Gotham City
4210 pieces, rated 18+
£259.99 / $299.99 / €299.99
Available from April 1st 2024 at LEGO.com

Celebrate 85 years of Batman with the new LEGO DC Batman Gotham City Skyline set

Today the LEGO Group, in collaboration with Warner Bros. Discovery Global Consumer Products and DC, unveils the LEGO DC Batman Gotham City Skyline set, an amazing recreation of Gotham City as it appears in in “Batman: The Animated Series.” This atmospheric set, a 3D recreation of the Gotham City skyline in LEGO bricks, releases as Warner Bros. Discovery celebrates 85 years of Batman throughout 2024.

The 4,210 piece set is a Batman fan’s dream as every tower and building meticulously recreates iconic locations from Warner Bros. Animation’s “Batman: The Animated Series” including the Gotham City Court, Arkham Asylum, the classic Batwing and Bat Signal. The set is also full of Easter eggs and beloved characters including Catwoman, The Joker, Harley Quinn and Batman himself. In addition, parts of the set open up to reveal more intricacies inside.

The perfect set for DC fans, the Gotham City Skyline set is a stunning display piece which can be wall-mounted or placed on a shelf.

The LEGO DC Batman Gotham City Skyline set is available for LEGO Insiders from 1st April 2024 at www.LEGO.com/Batman and LEGO Stores for all from 4th April 2024 priced at €299.99 / £259.99 / $299.99 / $499.99 AUD / 2499 CNY / 121990 HUF / 389.99 CAD / 7499 MXN.


Will you be buying this set?

Yes, as soon as it's released
Yes, eventually
Maybe, I haven't made up my mind yet
No, it doesn't interest me
No, it's too expensive
No, but I like it

Batman: The Animated Series is probably my favourite interpretation of Batman and I think this set looks fantastic, showing incredible attention to the style of the animated series and many of its most memorable episodes. What do you think of the set? Let us know in the comments.

You can find more images on the set details page.

156 comments on this article

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By in United States,

The joker looks a bit cursed but everything else looks really cool

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By in United States,

Riddle me this - why is this such an interesting idea that I've never seen anyone do?

Guess that Millennial market is still going strong huh.

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By in Canada,

This set looks incredible! Can’t wait to pick it up!

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By in Norway,

So with this releasing on April 1st… official announcement of the DnD-set incoming?

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By in Netherlands,

This is an awesome masterpiece!
Perhaps a dark blue background would have been better than the red? It's quite obtrusive. I would have loved to see some nanofigures instead of the many stickers, though.

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By in United States,

Looks like a lot of stickers. Batman TAS had so many memorable interpretations of villains - they missed the boat by not including Mr. Freeze (first episode with him "Heart of Ice" won a Daytime Emmy).

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By in United States,

I didn’t watch the animated series very much, but this looks INCREDIBLE!!!

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By in United States,

What an interesting set! I’m not sure I can see buying it but I would love to receive it as a gift.

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By in United States,

That is awesome to bad it's well out of my price range. Such a good Batman show. Glad they included a classic Harley Quinn fig, as she can for BtAS.

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By in Germany,

Now, this is surely something else... In a very positive way! I like it. I like Batman. I like the animated series. Let's see whether I like it as much as SEK 3549.90 (that's what it costs around here)

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By in United States,

I like this quite a bit! Really serves as an appropriate tribute for BTAS and is more visually interesting then, IDK, another Batcave or something.

Too much for me, and honestly the BTAS merch tidal wave feels like it’s gotten a bit excessive in recent years… but that’s basically every IP these days. Still, I applaud LEGO for finally tackling the subject AND doing something different.

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By in United States,

What?! So awesome! So expensive too.

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By in United States,

What a fascinating idea for a set! And it looks incredibly well executed. As a long time fan of B:TAS, this hits all the right nostalgia buttons. Just a shame I don't have Bruce Wayne's fortune, so I won't actually be purchasing it.

Next, I'd love to see them do a similar set for Metropolis in the style of Superman: The Animated Series. S:TAS was always underrated in my opinion, and overshadowed by the more moody, stylish Batman show.

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By in United Kingdom,

Coincidentally this gets announced right as I'm in the middle of watching the series!

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By in United States,

Impressive, although too many exposed studs in the sky, realizing the "exposed studs" debate will go on forever.

My kid and I are doing the Mickey Mouse art set this week (found it on substantial clearance). Realizing it's a mosaic, the flat tiles really, really help the animated effect. (On the other hand, I've done the full triple Sith build, and the exposed studs look fine on that one.)

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By in United States,

On second look, I notice this doesn't have the "Art" label even though this effectively appears to be an Art set. Maybe the inclusion of minifigures throws it. The Art line isn't done, is it?

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By in United States,

@FlyingMastodon said:
" @Potters said:
"This is an awesome masterpiece!
Perhaps a dark blue background would have been better than the red? It's quite obtrusive. I would have loved to see some nanofigures instead of the many stickers, though."


It's supposed to be red as it is portrayed that way from the opening of the show."


Some people want to just want to be critical and feel like they are better than the Lego designers

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By in United Kingdom,

I feel like they needed to implement the minfig stand into the main picture. Looks a bit awkward in one of the additional set picks where it's on the wall and the minifigs are sitting on another picture frame.

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By in Italy,

I.NEED.IT.NOW!!!!!!!!!!

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By in United Kingdom,

I did not have this on my 2024 bingo card, but I can't deny that it's a neat idea! It's like Art meets Architecture skylines. Definitely not one for me, but very cool nonetheless. Not sure how fun it would be to build though.

...

Anyone else have the theme music in their head now?

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By in Netherlands,

It looks a bit more colorful and less gloomy than I expected. I'm not a fan of the use of so many stickers, so I'm glad I can skip this since I probably don't have the money for it anyway.

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By in Netherlands,

The stickers are inexcusable

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By in United Kingdom,

My biggest complaint is that it looks more like the New Adventures version of the Joker, rather then the Animated Series ones.

Now, I loved the design and the concept and its very cool... but I don't think its £260 cool. Vast majority of parts seem to be single stud/tiles and other small and common parts, so the PPP, with 4210 pieces is incredibly deceptive and not a good judgement of value to go from.

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By in Poland,

Another set that looks great, but I ask why.
This is another HUEG SET FOR COLLECTROS ONLUY!!!!!!!!!
Is there such a huge market for this?

Dont get me wrong, itsa solid build, but it looks likea moc than a marketable product.

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By in United Kingdom,

@BrickCollection said:
"The joker looks a bit cursed but everything else looks really cool"

Looks like they've gone with the wrong version of Joker as it looks more like The New Adventures version of him then The Animated Series one. NA design had black eyes with yellow pupils, TAS had yellow eyes.

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By in United States,

I like it a lot. I hope more DC sets are coming as well (preferably more than just Batman).

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By in United Kingdom,

Those minifigs are amazing

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By in United States,

I feel like Batman needs more blue if this is going to accurately represent Batman from BTAS . . . although it looks like the underside of his cape is blue which is correct.

Now just give us a minifigure scale set of the BTAS Batmobile . . . the best Batmobile ever!!!

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By in United States,

@GrizBe said:
"My biggest complaint is that it looks more like the New Adventures version of the Joker, rather then the Animated Series ones."

The traditional minifigure dot eyes are throwing you. However, the grey under the eyes is definitely traditional original TAS style, along with the brighter purple in the suit.

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By in France,

Stickers aside, this is fantastic, I can't wait to get it!

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By in United States,

Wow, this really nails the BTAS style. Loved the show, and recently introduced it to my kids and wife (who was pleasantly surprised!). I hope it is all built upon a black background like how the series backgrounds were done on black paper.

@Zink said:
"This set seems to be mostly made up of those spare pieces you find at the bottom of your Lego bin."

It really does! Now I'm wondering if I could actually build most of it without taking anything apart. This is not the set I'd buy at that price even though it seems well worth the value.

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By in United Kingdom,

I really like it. I'd probably leave off the "Batman" text at the top because I think that'll only pop against a very dark background, and I don't paint my walls black.

It has, however, reinforced how the last few years has skewed my perception of Lego pricing when I see this as relatively cheap. With 'relatively' doing a lot of work in that sentence.

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By in United States,

Thank you LEGO for finally giving some love to BTAS.

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By in United Kingdom,

@ResIpsaLoquitur said:
" @GrizBe said:
"My biggest complaint is that it looks more like the New Adventures version of the Joker, rather then the Animated Series ones."

The traditional minifigure dot eyes are throwing you. However, the grey under the eyes is definitely traditional original TAS style, along with the brighter purple in the suit."


You could be right there, but as Jokers eyes were yellow in TAS, I took that line to be shading.

Looking again, I agree the suits right, just seems like they've gotten the head wrong to me.

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By in United States,

I like it, but not for $300. I hope there are more B:TAS sets coming. I grew up with that series.

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By in Netherlands,

Yummy, i want it!

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By in Germany,

@Zink said:
"This set seems to be mostly made up of those spare pieces you find at the bottom of your Lego bin."

These pieces and stickers. :(

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By in United States,

@ResIpsaLoquitur said:
"On second look, I notice this doesn't have the "Art" label even though this effectively appears to be an Art set. Maybe the inclusion of minifigures throws it. The Art line isn't done, is it?"

The Mona Lisa and also The Milky Way are slated to release, so I don't think they're done yet

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By in Canada,

@ThunderCracker81 said:
"So with this releasing on April 1st… official announcement of the DnD-set incoming?"

Yeah, Lego is really holding back on that reveal. I mean, we got the teaser for it weeks ago but received no prior announcement to this set being dropped, and yet evidently this took priority over revealing the DnD set. I suspect we'll be waiting until around mid to late March for that announcement.

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By in United States,

never watched the show, so not my thing. But dang this is a masterpiece!

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By in Finland,

200 Stickers? 300 € / 300 $

The Shadow Box for me!

(BUT if you buy it, I am glad for you).

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By in Canada,

I think the "will you buy it?" poll needs a "yes, but it's too expensive" option. ;P

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By in Netherlands,

@Legobub21 said:
" @FlyingMastodon said:
" @Potters said:
"This is an awesome masterpiece!
Perhaps a dark blue background would have been better than the red? It's quite obtrusive. I would have loved to see some nanofigures instead of the many stickers, though."


It's supposed to be red as it is portrayed that way from the opening of the show."


Some people want to just want to be critical and feel like they are better than the Lego designers

"


I didn't mean to come across as overly critical, but the red color seemed a bit jarring to me. I'm not familiar with The Animated Series, but after looking at some pictures, I understand the choice better. Still a great set with a lot of detail.

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By in United Kingdom,

Love this set, but not a huge super-hero fan, so probably won't be buying it...

Howevert, I do see the potential to modify it into Rapture (Bioshock) so never say never...

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By in United States,

I appreciate that the buildings are specific to the show and not just generic art deco. The red sky looks so good. I can hear Shirley Walkers themes with every detail I spot.

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By in United Kingdom,

Super cool and watched it as a kid in the 90s. So happy for anyone who buys it but qont be me for reasons already covered above:
- too expensive for what are essentially filler peices
- joker doesnt look right
- "batman" at the top is unecessary and detracts from the look.
- minifigs should be incorporated into it.
- sticker horror

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By in United States,

Not having the Joker's whole eyes be yellow a la Emperor Palpatine is a massive miss, as I can envision it beautifully contrasting with the eyeshadow around it. As it is, Joker's face is too dark. Also not sure if that hair piece is really the best fit.

Gotta say, when the leaks for a BTAS Gotham City set came out, I don't think anyone expected... this. It's... neat, but if the goal was always to have it be an Art set, why not just do a cheaper straightforward one where it's a mosaic of the iconic logo or something? This model would definitely make for a cool convention display but it just doesn't look like an appealing consumer set.

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By in United States,

Needs moar Batman!

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By in United Kingdom,

I would have preferred it to be 1966 based, but this does look pretty impressive.
Thought for a moment that the last pic had images of Del Boy and Rodney!

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By in United Kingdom,

It's a fascinating looking set! But my wallet is glad I'm not interested in superheroes. I wonder what other franchises might get this treatment in future?

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By in Ireland,

Must look up what the heck B:TAS is...
It looks great, but it doesn't look €300...
I know people go mad for minifigures but in this set they're totally pointless. If this is something to hang on a wall, where are those figs supposed to go?
Look at the promo images and Lego is actually showing how silly this is, with the minifigs sitting on the frame of another picture.

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By in United Kingdom,

Magnificent!

Credit to the designers for something so very different. I look forward to the review and the build techniques.

Personally, I think the 'BATMAN' on top looks out of place, and not needed. The mini-figure's could've been excluded too - perhaps as a GWP. And, if this was all printed parts then it would have really tempted me in, even though I'm a very casual fan.

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By in United States,

B:TAS is an excellent cartoon, and this is a very cool commemorative set.

Still, I’m hoping LEGO puts out some actual DC sets this year since they haven’t done any good non-movie or commemorative sets since 2019.

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By in United States,

@Legobub21 said:
" @FlyingMastodon said:
" @Potters said:
"This is an awesome masterpiece!
Perhaps a dark blue background would have been better than the red? It's quite obtrusive. I would have loved to see some nanofigures instead of the many stickers, though."


It's supposed to be red as it is portrayed that way from the opening of the show."


Some people want to just want to be critical and feel like they are better than the Lego designers

"


That’s not the message I got at all from their comment. It’s a legitimate opinion, especially if they aren’t too familiar with source.

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By in Netherlands,

@Potters said:
" @Legobub21 said:
" @FlyingMastodon said:
" @Potters said:
"This is an awesome masterpiece!
Perhaps a dark blue background would have been better than the red? It's quite obtrusive. I would have loved to see some nanofigures instead of the many stickers, though."


It's supposed to be red as it is portrayed that way from the opening of the show."


Some people want to just want to be critical and feel like they are better than the Lego designers

"


I didn't mean to come across as overly critical, but the red color seemed a bit jarring to me. I'm not familiar with The Animated Series, but after looking at some pictures, I understand the choice better. Still a great set with a lot of detail."


Maybe better not to critique the particulars of a set if you're not familiar with the source material, as these are crucial to fans. I do agree on the nano figs though. ;-)

The red skies are one of THE defining artistic cues from Batman: The Animated Series. Even to such an extend that the producers of the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon decided to colour their skies red too during the last few seasons -- hence the nickname The Red Sky Seasons. I'm sure that if the skies would've been blue here, everyone who actually ever watched the show would've criticized LEGO for getting it wrong.

It looks like a fun set and a great display piece, but at this retail price, I feel stickers should've been out of the question. Hoping to see some smaller retail sets of this series down the line, if only for some of those awesome BTAS characters and the incredibly slick looking Batmobile.

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By in Australia,

AU$500! Stuff that. Thank goodness its based off the Animated series which I have no interest in. May get it when it’s 50% off on deep clearance though as I do like city skyliney stuff.

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By in Canada,

@ResIpsaLoquitur said:
"On second look, I notice this doesn't have the "Art" label even though this effectively appears to be an Art set. Maybe the inclusion of minifigures throws it. The Art line isn't done, is it?"

The numbering is in line with the DC sets (76XXX) and not the Art sets (31XXX).

Suspect we will hear more about Art sets for the Summer release as typically these make for more suitable Xmas gifts...and there is sooo much releasing in this first half of the year...don't want to put it out if it's going to compete with everything else for your hard earned dollars.

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By in United Kingdom,

@sjr60 said:
"Thought for a moment that the last pic had images of Del Boy and Rodney!"

That is a 'Batman & Robin' set I would definitely get.

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By in Australia,

I love that it can be wall mounted, can picture above a low bookcase with the 1989 batmobile and tumbler sitting on the top of the bookcase below to skyline.

The move to create wall mounted art that is more 3D as opposed to just the dots has produced some amazing sets so far, looking forward to what comes out in the future.

Thanks for the reporting :)

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By in Germany,

Looks absolutely awesome imho.
Am I going to buy it though?
No, because I can't justify spending that much money on a set that ultimately I have no place to display.

I'll just enjoy the pictures of it and the reviews. Saves money and room. :-)

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By in Belgium,

Catwoman would look better with dual molded arms (light bluish gray top and black bottom) instead of the black arms.

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By in United States,

I'd love to get the figures. The set overall looks well done and I love the details at the scale. They really captured the vibe. But at $300 I think I will have to pass. Too many sets, not enough money. Motto for basically all adults...

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By in Netherlands,

It looks cool, but not 300 euros cool. I might get this in the long run, with a points discount.
As a BTAS fan, i hope they'll do more sets, hopefully a massive Batmobile with gimmicks.

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By in United States,

Oh now that is just too cool. Loved TAS, glad to see it get such attention.

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By in United States,

@Duq said:
"Must look up what the heck B:TAS is... "

Batman: The Animated Series, a cartoon that aired from 1992 to 1995. It was a huge hit and got multiple followups and spinoffs, becoming what's known as the DCAU. It's also what Harley Quinn is originally from.

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By in United States,

Getting it on Day 1 since it releases on my Birthday!

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By in Denmark,

@Zink said:
" @Zink said:
"This set seems to be mostly made up of those spare pieces you find at the bottom of your Lego bin."

Just saw the price LOL"


Unneccersary comment. You are from Germany, thinking that LEGO is overpriced is a default setting, just like “too many stickers”.

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By in Australia,

I bet even at this price, Catwoman and Harley will have printing issues. They still haven't fix that problem.

Great set though.

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By in United States,

The headstone pieces to the bottom right of Wayne Manor are a great touch! I think they're definitely nods to Thomas and Martha Wayne's graves.

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By in Finland,

I love this, but between this and the DnD set I can't help, but feel that Lego has been abandoning AFOLs who make less than 2000€ net salary per month a little. Would be nice to see more detailed sets at the same price ranges as 77015: Temple of the Golden Idol, 10327: Dune Atreides Royal Ornithopter and 76989: Horizon Forbidden West: Tallneck.

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By in United States,

@yellowcastle said:
"What an interesting set! I’m not sure I can see buying it but I would love to receive it as a gift."

Same. (Hint, hint).

"is a Batman fan’s dream".... Alright! Who's taking the LSD before bed?

I'm really excited to get the dual-molded, light grey, Catwoman legs again so I can upgrade more of my Rebel Fleet Troopers.

I would buy this at 85% off.

I'd rather have more play sets. The displays are piling up.

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By in Canada,

You either love the idea behind the set, or not. I think it's a very well executed set! Only thing I worry about is that I see tons of stickers (but I guess it kept the price not in the $500 range, so there's that).

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By in United States,

@MarkingX said:
" I bet even at this price, Catwoman and Harley will have printing issues. They still haven't fix that problem.

Great set though."


Too true. Pale, washed-out heads and pink ruffle.

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By in United Kingdom,

Having got the flowers and world map for Christmas, I really got into the art theme, but I'm not sure I'm prepared to spend money to get this, even though I'm looking at 31205 for alternate builds, inspired by kczd on Instagram. I like the style of it, but it's too much £ for someone who isn't a fan.

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By in Portugal,

Well... pass.

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By in United States,

The show is one of the best animated shows ever, and this looks really cool. Well done designers!

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By in Canada,

When I saw this, I told myself: really?
And then I looked at the commentaries here and I told myself: REALLY?
Then I looked at the survey results and (IMO) they do not reflect the commentaries here. Commentaries are highly positive, the survey not so.

What I do not get is: Lego is 'supposed' to be a 3D medium and we are seeing a growing amount of 2d-ish (bas-relief) representations. I typed 'supposed' because, in fact, Lego can be whatever you want it to be but you get the idea.

Anyhow, to each his/her own. I am glad it makes a group of people happy. There were no interesting recolours for me in there but there are plenty of sets yet to be revealed - they cannot be all good to everyone at all time and it is good like that for the finances.

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By in Canada,

Looks amazing, but my desire to own is zero. Firmly in the "cool as a MOC, questionable as a set" category. Really have to wonder how many large sets TLG thinks collectors can afford in space and dollars.

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By in United Kingdom,

Looks really good. Nice minifigures and I think a nice way to represent a large city.
But until this article, I had never heard of Batman: The Animated Series; the abbreviation in the article title completely confused me. Not for me.

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By in United Kingdom,

This isn't really doing it for me. I loved the Batcave shadow box but that had a combination of display appeal and a number of interactive elements that made for an interesting build.

This one looks OK when finished but also looks like it would be quite a dull building experience. Once built, how many times are you going to feel inclined to pull the front off a building and then put it back on again? Not many, I'd imagine.

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By in Canada,

Ok? I was hoping for the Batmobile and such. I mean this is alright, as an art set, but where is the cool stuff?
I don’t know if I would spend that much on an art lego piece… And I have the pretty much all of the marvel and Star Wars art collages.

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By in United States,

I saw the ad LEGO posted for this over on Facebook. I could hear the intro music in my head as soon as the dirigible headlights show up!

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By in United Kingdom,

@Andrusi said:
" @Duq said:
"Must look up what the heck B:TAS is... "

Batman: The Animated Series, a cartoon that aired from 1992 to 1995. It was a huge hit and got multiple followups and spinoffs, becoming what's known as the DCAU. It's also what Harley Quinn is originally from."


And Batman's most iconic and prolific voice actor Kevin Conroy, who along with Arleen Sorkin who voiced Harley sadly passed recently.

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By in United States,

Another set that's needlessly huge and expensive. It could easily be half the width and be just as impactful. Who has space for this stuff unless you only have one or two sets to display?

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By in United Kingdom,

I love it! If I had the cash and space I’d buy that on day one. Personally I can see the original joker design inspiration in there as opposed to the new adventures version. I’m not a fan of the stickers though.

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By in United States,

Cool set. This is a perfect example that price per piece shouldn't be the end all be all. You're getting roughly an extra thousand pieces than you should for $300 and yet most people seem to think it's over priced. Why? Because the majority of pieces are tiny. The only way to know if a set is good value is by the eyeball test and how much it means to different levels of fans.

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By in United States,

@gsmayes said:
"Another set that's needlessly huge and expensive. It could easily be half the width and be just as impactful. Who has space for this stuff unless you only have one or two sets to display?"

I agree. For the last couple of years it seems that lego has completely ignored focusing on a scale that makes sense for the set, instead making everything unnecessary big. The designers don't seem to realize that for certain sets bigger does not mean better. Not every UCS set needs to be $500+ when you have midi scale sets that look just as good for less space and a more economical price.

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By in United States,

Beautiful set! This is what Lego Art should be minus the stickers. The sticker aspect is completely unaccaptable from an Art set. Fix the sticker and pricing issue and there is enormous potential for the Art line.

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By in United Kingdom,

I don’t know, it seems like we’re forever stopping in our tracks to celebrate the important and significant 85th anniversary of one thing or another ;-)

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By in Australia,

Woah this looks incredible!

*checks price*

Well that stinks.

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By in United States,

@Duq said:
"Must look up what the heck B:TAS is...

Mark Hamill voiced The Joker lol"

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By in Netherlands,

Pretty cool, for most part I like it!

Well, except for the price (which once again shows PPP isn't the be-all and end-all....), and the number of stickers. And while it looks good, dare I say that large printed Bat-Signal feels a bit like a cheat in a set like this?

Also, are those kinda diamond-shaped tiles new? Or have those been used in Dots or so?

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By in Belgium,

LEGO revamping classic Castle.
AMAZON prime releasing Fallout series.
LEGO releasing a huge Batman The Animated Series set...

It sure is a great time to be alive for my Millennial nostalgia...

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By in United States,

Like, this is really clever, and does look good, but I’ll probably pass. I adore Batman, watched BTAS and JL/U pretty religiously, and love the Lego art stuff, but for some reason that I can’t quite put my finger on, it just doesn’t do it for me at all

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By in United Kingdom,

@Gamlebilrokker said:
"Unneccersary comment. You are from Germany, thinking that LEGO is overpriced is a default setting, just like “too many stickers”. "

This is actually a pretty offensive comment.

Oh, by the way, I think stickers suck, and I'm from the UK.

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By in United Kingdom,

Does this weird paranoia about stickers stem from their quality many many years ago? Or is it that it takes a little bit of time and patience to put them on straight?

I imagine like a lot of 'issues' that are forever being raised on here it is not a major issue for the majority of Lego buyers.

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By in United Kingdom,

Looks fantastic - yes please!

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By in United States,

j/k I think...
wow WB hurting money

Looks great at least it not simple design $300..
Wish could of broken it up to 3/1 ....be easier get on sales all 3.. a lot cheaper

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By in United Kingdom,

@ShinyBidoof said:
"Does this weird paranoia about stickers stem from their quality many many years ago? Or is it that it takes a little bit of time and patience to put them on straight?"

No "weird paranoia" (whatever the hell that is) involved - I just don't like them. Mainly because they can be a pain to get right depending on the part, slowing down the build, and they're rarely the same colour as said part. Oh, and don't even get me started on the print quality... one of the stickers on my copy of 42168 had nasty white specks and a glob of red on it.

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By in Netherlands,

@ShinyBidoof said:
"Does this weird paranoia about stickers stem from their quality many many years ago? Or is it that it takes a little bit of time and patience to put them on straight?

I imagine like a lot of 'issues' that are forever being raised on here it is not a major issue for the majority of Lego buyers."

Let's turn it around: Can you explain your love for stickers? What makes them superior to prints? The sense of satisfaction when you manage to put it on absolutely flawless? The fact that you can spot them much so well, considering Lego seems to intentionally mismatch the colors? Or just because Lego can't do prints as well as most competitors?

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By in United States,

@WizardOfOss said:
" @ShinyBidoof said:
"Does this weird paranoia about stickers stem from their quality many many years ago? Or is it that it takes a little bit of time and patience to put them on straight?

I imagine like a lot of 'issues' that are forever being raised on here it is not a major issue for the majority of Lego buyers."

Let's turn it around: Can you explain your love for stickers? What makes them superior to prints? The sense of satisfaction when you manage to put it on absolutely flawless? The fact that you can spot them much so well, considering Lego seems to intentionally mismatch the colors? Or just because Lego can't do prints as well as most competitors?"


If simple design., I think should be on bricks. More complex stickers... .
Depending price of the set?

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By in Germany,

@ShinyBidoof said:
"Does this weird paranoia about stickers stem from their quality many many years ago?"
Actually, the quality of LEGO stickers was way better "many many years ago" than it is today.
Then again, I am talking about the stickers from my childhood in the 80s, which is, I presume, "many many more years ago" than those "many many years" you were thinking of.

Anyway, go build a set by Cobi, or any of the Star Trek sets from BlueBrixx, all of which are prints only, and tell me you still prefer stickers.

Stickers make no sense on display sets that no one takes apart again after building them.

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By in Romania,

As much as I love BTAS and Lego, this set isn't something I'm interested in, right next to the shadow box. Play sets and cheaper please.

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By in Spain,

There must be about 40 stickers in there, almost every "print" is a sticker

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By in Netherlands,

If this was 200 dollars cheaper, and smaller I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

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By in United States,

Very cool to see a return to B:TAS source material after the original Batman sets, and to see the minifigures in the modern style. The figures are definitely the biggest appeal to me (no way I'll get the set), but I agree Mr. Freeze should have been here. Both he and Harley were the villains who owe the most to this incarnation of the Batman story, not just Harley who was created by it.

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By in Australia,

Please make minifigure scale TAS sets Lego, with vintage cars!! (and for those that aren't interested in old cars please recall that the 1940s aesthetic was a unique and key part of TAS, which also then added some futuristic elements as well).

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By in Japan,

@GreenRanger93 said:
"Looks like a lot of stickers. Batman TAS had so many memorable interpretations of villains - they missed the boat by not including Mr. Freeze (first episode with him "Heart of Ice" won a Daytime Emmy)."

He is the only version of Mr. Freeze I consider canonical =) that arc remains one of my top favorites from the series.

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By in United States,

@Potters:
Dark red is accurate to the “dark deco” style of the series, and the fact that a city that large will always have massive amounts of light pollution.

@GreenRanger93:
A new member of my LUG works in a rail yard and recently posted a shot of a boxcar with B:TAS Mr. Freeze graffiti.

Anyways, a few bits of trivia about that episode. WB didn’t actually do the animation in-house, and with 99 episodes in the first “season”, they had to farm them out to any animation studio they could find who had time available to crank out a few episodes. The studio that animated Heart of Ice only did that one episode. It’s believed that, after animating the individual cells, someone was tasked with going back over the entire episode and air-brushing a bit of frost onto the clear dome in every shot of Mr. Freeze. And it’s also believed that the studio went bankrupt while making it. Oh, and a really weird bit is that, in some shots, they reversed the colors of Batman’s logo, so his costume sometimes has a black oval with a yellow bat, and the rest of the time it’s a yellow oval with a black bat.

@GrizBe:
2006 Joker and 2008 Harley Quinn (and 2006 Two-Face) were already based on B:TAS, so I’m cool with this including TNBA Joker. Harley…well, her second minifig looks very close to her TNBA look, and this doesn’t look like either that much. It looks good, just not like the TV series.

@lost_scotsman:
Intentional or not, there’s a nod to Conroy’s first line to dialogue in the series, which was as a crew member of one of the zeppelins right at the opening of On Leather Wings. And Sorkin was far more than just the original voice of Harley Quinn. The character was based on her performance in a daytime soap. Paul Dini was longtime friends with her, and they needed a way to have Joker push a giant cake into a room and then jump out of it. Dini remembered an episode where Sorkin dressed in a jester costume and jumped out of a cake, so they came up with a “throwaway character” just for that one episode.

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By in United States,

Hoping this leads to a Phantasm minifig and gateway to Batman Beyond.

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By in United States,

@ohrmazd said:
"Hoping this leads to a Phantasm minifig and gateway to Batman Beyond."

I like the way you think!

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By in United Kingdom,

I love the series but was hoping for a slightly more 3D city without the sticker crimewave and less batman cowl- it’s all about the chin!

That said, it’s very good and highly attractive. The darker building colour scheme works best but isn’t consistent and it remains clearly expensive for the weight. But those minifigures look rather good…

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By in United States,

@YoungB1ood said:
"Cool set. This is a perfect example that price per piece shouldn't be the end all be all. You're getting roughly an extra thousand pieces than you should for $300 and yet most people seem to think it's over priced. Why? Because the majority of pieces are tiny. The only way to know if a set is good value is by the eyeball test and how much it means to different levels of fans."

It's really more because it's expensive. Nobody ever complains about this sort of thing when sets cost $25 or less, but price something out of their budget and you'll see all sorts of, "I didn't want to buy it anyways" gripes.

@Brickchap:
Color computers, but B/W TV sets (except, I believe, in this one episode, where they pull back from a "live" shot to reveal you were just watching TV, and that's the only time it was a color TV). Pre-WWII cars, but planes that have VTOL capability. It was definitely not meant to fit in any one real-world decade.

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By in United States,

Um, I'll take the minifigures right now please and thank you :)

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By in Australia,

@PurpleDave said:
" @YoungB1ood said:
"Cool set. This is a perfect example that price per piece shouldn't be the end all be all. You're getting roughly an extra thousand pieces than you should for $300 and yet most people seem to think it's over priced. Why? Because the majority of pieces are tiny. The only way to know if a set is good value is by the eyeball test and how much it means to different levels of fans."

It's really more because it's expensive. Nobody ever complains about this sort of thing when sets cost $25 or less, but price something out of their budget and you'll see all sorts of, "I didn't want to buy it anyways" gripes.

@Brickchap:
Color computers, but B/W TV sets (except, I believe, in this one episode, where they pull back from a "live" shot to reveal you were just watching TV, and that's the only time it was a color TV). Pre-WWII cars, but planes that have VTOL capability. It was definitely not meant to fit in any one real-world decade."


You dont know what you are talking about, the cars are clearly late 1940s, 1950s, not pre Second World War. I also acknowledged there were some futuristic elements, either way the cars were a certain historic style and a recognisable feature of Batman TAS so to include them would make sense.

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By in United States,

@joeynaut said:
"Um, I'll take the minifigures right now please and thank you :)"

NO! You will NOT!! Unless, you first hand over your wallet, and we shoot it against the Big Red Wall!

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By in United States,

@Japanbuilder said:
" @GreenRanger93 said:
"Looks like a lot of stickers. Batman TAS had so many memorable interpretations of villains - they missed the boat by not including Mr. Freeze (first episode with him "Heart of Ice" won a Daytime Emmy)."

He is the only version of Mr. Freeze I consider canonical =) that arc remains one of my top favorites from the series. "


You mean you don't consider the Batman and Robin version of Mr. Freeze canon? What, do you have ice in your veins?!?

;-P

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By in Japan,

@Murdoch17 said:
" @Japanbuilder said:
" @GreenRanger93 said:
"Looks like a lot of stickers. Batman TAS had so many memorable interpretations of villains - they missed the boat by not including Mr. Freeze (first episode with him "Heart of Ice" won a Daytime Emmy)."

He is the only version of Mr. Freeze I consider canonical =) that arc remains one of my top favorites from the series. "


You mean you don't consider the Batman and Robin version of Mr. Freeze canon? What, do you have ice in your veins?!?

;-P"


I am very picky it seems lol.

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By in United States,

@Japanbuilder said:
" @Murdoch17 said:
" @Japanbuilder said:
" @GreenRanger93 said:
"Looks like a lot of stickers. Batman TAS had so many memorable interpretations of villains - they missed the boat by not including Mr. Freeze (first episode with him "Heart of Ice" won a Daytime Emmy)."

He is the only version of Mr. Freeze I consider canonical =) that arc remains one of my top favorites from the series. "


You mean you don't consider the Batman and Robin version of Mr. Freeze canon? What, do you have ice in your veins?!?

;-P"


I am very picky it seems lol. "


No, I actually agree with you, I was just making a Mr. Freeze-esque joke. Batman and Robin in all aspects us near-universally regarded as very bad. It was a last gasp of a franchise that should have stuck with Burton directing. (Curse you 'Mars Attacks!' for ruining our chances of 'Superman Lives' and other possible Burton films!) This is to say nothing of miscast George Clooney...

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By in United States,

Sooooo, where does the Batmobile go and does the minifigure stand hang under the picture??

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By in United States,

@legomoe74 said:
"Sooooo, where does the Batmobile go and does the minifigure stand hang under the picture??"

Almost to the lower right of the frame. You see like it looks like Wayne Manor (moon is above it), take off the bottom part and you'll see a batcave that can fit that nano batmobile.
The figures are separate on that small building facade build. It doesn't attach to the skyline as far as I can see.

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By in Turkey,

This is a beautiful tribute to the 90's show. I loved it, so colorful and rich. I wish I could get it.

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By in Sweden,

Is the Batmobile stored somewhere within the frame?

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By in Germany,

@Zink said:
" @Gamlebilrokker said:
" @Zink said:
" @Zink said:
"This set seems to be mostly made up of those spare pieces you find at the bottom of your Lego bin."

Just saw the price LOL"


Unneccersary comment. You are from Germany, thinking that LEGO is overpriced is a default setting, just like “too many stickers”.

"


Both positions are right. It is overpriced and shouldn't use a single sticker. What does the country I currently live in have to do with that?"


What is the worst month for a winemaker?
February, he only has 28 days to complain!
(I'm a part-time winemaker, I'm allowed to say that...)

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By in United Kingdom,

Ngl, I've always been slightly ambivalent about the 2d arts sets but I like this and it is slightly 3d.

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By in Germany,

Hope that Joker turns up elsewhere, they figured out his weird face really well, I was always content just using the 2006 figures as BTAS versions before.

These painting like or sculpture sets are looking alright but they surely aren't worth the asking price for someone with a more traditional collection focused on Minifig compatible houses and vehicles that mostly offer functions and different ways to set it up. The optional parts here aren't even optional as the main picture would imply but rather "give you access" to stickered 2x2 tiles depicting some characters. Can you really call that a function or even play, to remove a part to look at black and white drawings?

Would have loved any one of these Art Deco 30s style buildings realized as a Modular Building compatible house to put next to the Museum and Detectives Office.

One would think with how popular Daily Bugle was and still is that it would serve as a blueprint for more sets. Hopefully X-Mansion fares better, but it likely will since DC getting the shaft is just another Tuesday.

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By in United Kingdom,

I'm sure the detail is amazing, but Gotham City is probably the least interesting part of the Batman universe although credit for doing something new. Personally, I just prefer the usual set places like Wayne Mansion and Arkham Asylum which could do with an update.

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By in France,

I really wish (and this particular set gives me hope back) that Lego turns one day the Batman animated series Batmobile in a minifig scale official set. That would be an instant buy for me. If no UCS size and price...That is why I wish minifig scaled play set.

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By in France,

Oh boy that's the perfect fan service set for the animated series fans, this is not good for my wallet, not at all :D

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By in Netherlands,

@aap said:
"What is the worst month for a winemaker?
February, he only has 28 days to complain!
(I'm a part-time winemaker, I'm allowed to say that...)"


29! ;-)

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By in Netherlands,

@Anonym said:
"One would think with how popular Daily Bugle was and still is that it would serve as a blueprint for more sets. Hopefully X-Mansion fares better, but it likely will since DC getting the shaft is just another Tuesday."

That one also shows the problem with sets like this:
- Daily Bugle: Pretty darn huge building, 3700 pieces, 25 minifigs: €350.
- Gotham City Skyline: Decently sized but mostly flat thing, 500 (tiny) pieces more, 21 minifigs less: €300.
(Which is actually the same as the Daily Bugle was before it was hit by greedflation...)

As cool as it looks, it's just very hard to see similar value here.

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By in United Kingdom,

It would be interesting if the architectural skyline subtheme explored doing fictional skylines. Possibly more affordable too.

I don't mind some stickers, but it does get annoying when there's alot to do.

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By in United Kingdom,

It does look pretty cool on the wall. Unlikely to get it though.

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By in Netherlands,

Gotham City skyline frame dimensions (w/o the Batman text on top): H x W = 40 x 96 studs, so no hope for two 48 x 48 baseplates in black (or very very very Dark gray). One can dream though!?

IMO, overall nice looking display with a few interesting parts in new colours, but I have other sets on my wanted list with higher priority plus absolutely no room left to put something big like this! I like it though, thanks for sharing the news.

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By in United States,

@WizardOfOss said:
" @ShinyBidoof said:
"Does this weird paranoia about stickers stem from their quality many many years ago? Or is it that it takes a little bit of time and patience to put them on straight?

I imagine like a lot of 'issues' that are forever being raised on here it is not a major issue for the majority of Lego buyers."

Let's turn it around: Can you explain your love for stickers? What makes them superior to prints? The sense of satisfaction when you manage to put it on absolutely flawless? The fact that you can spot them much so well, considering Lego seems to intentionally mismatch the colors? Or just because Lego can't do prints as well as most competitors?"


I think I can elaborate on their perspective a bit. Within the confines of how Lego has chosen to do business, the choice isn't between stickers or prints, but rather between stickers or no decoration whatsoever, or other compromises to the set's design. Lego imposes a limit on the number of unique elements in production at a given point, and as a result, designers have a limited number of new elements they can introduce in a given set. A print is a new element, a sticker is not. I am perfectly fine with designers choosing to use stickers for decorations so that they can use their new part allotment on new moulds or recolors that elevate the quality of the set, or on new minifigs and characters.

As an aside, I've also found that, in general, the point at which you entered the hobby can play a factor in how accepting you are of stickers. For those who entered the hobby in the period since Lego has started their "Adults Welcome" emphasis, the expectation is that Lego is a premium collector's product, since that's what Lego is marketing themselves as. Obviously stickers don't mesh with that claim. I can understand that perspective, but, as someone who entered the hobby long before Lego started marketing their products as high-quality collector's items, my expectation is that Lego is, at it's heart, a children's toy, and that things like stickers are just part of the territory.

Anyways, I hope that helps you understand the perspective of those who are more accepting of stickers than you may be.

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By in United States,

@Murdoch17 said:
"You mean you don't consider the Batman and Robin version of Mr. Freeze canon?"

Absolutely, I do. BTW, you spelled “cannon” wrong. Also, you should probably clarify it more by saying “large bore” first, and “with irresponsible amounts of extra powder” after.

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By in Netherlands,

@Binary_Code , I am aware of that "system" they have for new/printed elements. But as a customer and fan, the way I look at it is if that system is holding back the quality of the product, change the system.

I'm not completely against stickers. For play sets that likely will be taken apart immediately after being built it can actually be an advantage. And they should throw in some additional random stickers, costs next to nothing and kids love those. But on a very expensive display set, indeed very much marketed as a premium product? No, just no.
(and it's even more egregious considering the bad color matching and big gaps)

Lego can absolutely make amazing sets, there's a reason we're all fans. And dare I say their set designers generally are on a different level than those of the competition? But too often (not just with stickers) they are held back by what I assume are corporate decisions, not theirs. And too often that takes sets that could have been great down several notches. More and more I look at new Lego sets and think "Cool, but I wish it was made by Cobi".

And it all might be forgivable if they would adjust the prices accordingly....yet they seem to prefer the exact opposite.

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By in United States,

@Lamarider said:
"Is the Batmobile stored somewhere within the frame?"
Yes, look to the lower right. You see the moon. Below it is Wayne Manor and the section below that can come off to reveal the Batcave where the little nano bat mobile can fit.
The picture showing the bat computer and the little stickers of robin and batgirl is that Batcave.

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By in United States,

@WizardOfOss said:
" @ShinyBidoof said:
"Does this weird paranoia about stickers stem from their quality many many years ago? Or is it that it takes a little bit of time and patience to put them on straight?

I imagine like a lot of 'issues' that are forever being raised on here it is not a major issue for the majority of Lego buyers."

Let's turn it around: Can you explain your love for stickers? What makes them superior to prints? The sense of satisfaction when you manage to put it on absolutely flawless? The fact that you can spot them much so well, considering Lego seems to intentionally mismatch the colors? Or just because Lego can't do prints as well as most competitors?"


Personally I find prints to be significantly duller than a sticker. If lego made great prints everyone would want prints, but the quality of legos stickers are better. And let's not put all the blame of mismatched colors on stickers. Prints are just as bad if not worse at getting accurate colors.

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By in United Kingdom,

I like it. Reminds me of the Roku screensaver though

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By in United Kingdom,

I like it, but too risky with all those stickers. My luck with stickers has been disastrous over the past five years. Some sets are awesome, some sets come unstuck at the edges and others just crumble.
I decided not to spend any significant money on any sets with stickers.

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By in Denmark,

@Zink said:

"Both positions are right. It is overpriced and shouldn't use a single sticker. What does the country I currently live in have to do with that?"

Like I said, it’s a default mindset in Germany, no matter what, and therefore your extra remark about the price was not needed, everybody knew that you think it’s too expensive.

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By in Netherlands,

@YoungB1ood said:
"Personally I find prints to be significantly duller than a sticker. If lego made great prints everyone would want prints, but the quality of legos stickers are better. And let's not put all the blame of mismatched colors on stickers. Prints are just as bad if not worse at getting accurate colors."

Honestly, I cant really disagree with much of that. Lego prints indeed are among the worst in the business, both print quality and the alignment are too often sub-par. Bu then I still prefer not-so-great prints over not-so-great stickers.

I know I'm in the minority here that when it comes to stickers, I very much prefer clear backed stickers over opaque ones. They sure have their issues too, but generally they look way better. To the point I don't really mind them. And I will generally always put those on. With opaque stickers it's always a matter of A) how essential they are for the final result, and B) how bad they look. And if they are essential and terrible , I likely won't even buy the set, even when I like everything else.

Then again, I just got my McLaren MP4/4, I haven't unpacked it yet but already know it includes two terrible yet essential prints. One so bad you'd think the designer must have been smoking something different than just the stuff that livery should be advertising. ....

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By in United States,

@WizardOfOss said:
"Pretty cool, for most part I like it!

Well, except for the price (which once again shows PPP isn't the be-all and end-all....), and the number of stickers. And while it looks good, dare I say that large printed Bat-Signal feels a bit like a cheat in a set like this?

Also, are those kinda diamond-shaped tiles new? Or have those been used in Dots or so?"


The diamond shaped tiles aren't new, but they were I believe only in the Disney Princess line with Elsa. I think this is the first time they are in solid colors. The piece actually has a peg connection so unless they changed it to an antistud, it isn't quite as versatile as it could be. That being said, it does provide some new geometric designs.

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By in United States,

@WizardOfOss said:
" @Binary_Code , I am aware of that "system" they have for new/printed elements. But as a customer and fan, the way I look at it is if that system is holding back the quality of the product, change the system.

I'm not completely against stickers. For play sets that likely will be taken apart immediately after being built it can actually be an advantage. And they should throw in some additional random stickers, costs next to nothing and kids love those. But on a very expensive display set, indeed very much marketed as a premium product? No, just no.
(and it's even more egregious considering the bad color matching and big gaps)

Lego can absolutely make amazing sets, there's a reason we're all fans. And dare I say their set designers generally are on a different level than those of the competition? But too often (not just with stickers) they are held back by what I assume are corporate decisions, not theirs. And too often that takes sets that could have been great down several notches. More and more I look at new Lego sets and think "Cool, but I wish it was made by Cobi".

And it all might be forgivable if they would adjust the prices accordingly....yet they seem to prefer the exact opposite."


I can appreciate this argument, but it's important to understand that the problem is asymptotic. LEGO produces way, way more sets than any of the competitors, and (speaking from a perspective of numbers) even makes way, way more unique printed pieces than competitors. They are just BIGGER than Cobi/BlueBrixx/etc; no arguing against that.

The result of that extremely large difference in scale is that LEGO has a much, much bigger production/part storage/set assembly/shipping problem than any of the competitors. And it's not just a purely linear increase - it's a problem that professionals in logistics would immediately recognize as approaching the asymptote of possibility.

How big can you build a warehouse? How many production and printing lines can you run? And how much of that can you do while managing existential risk to your company? It's common knowledge that LEGO overran itself in the early 2000's with too many different parts, and it was close to disastrous. They work hard to avoid that with a strict system.

So, the way I see it, it's not just a matter of "If the system limits this, change the system." It's a problem of - how does the company balance competing needs? And there's no simple formula to answer that question that does ALL OF THE THINGS perfectly and in line with what ALL OF THE PEOPLE want.

I'm therefore always amused to see complaints along the lines of "it's too expensive and it has too many stickers." It's a slightly irrational complaint - if you want more prints, you'd have to expect it would be even more expensive. If you want it cheaper, you'd have to accept even less prints/stickers. I don't think that's the LEGO company being greedy, I think it's just the logistical limits of what they do.

Nota bene: I say this as an owner of a whole bunch of BlueBrixx Star Trek sets which I very much like! I just recognize that they're a much smaller business and that changes their logistics quite a bit.

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By in United Kingdom,

I love LEGO doing what only they can do by creating 3D artwork which leaps off the canvas. Van Gogh’s Starry Night really set the tone and this set picks up on it beautifully. The subject matter is not my cup of tea but I cannot help but admire the imaginative techniques showcased here. My appetite has been whetted and I am looking forward to seeing what comes next in this vein. It’s disappointing that the price tag pushes into the unaffordable range, which will likely put off many fans of the series. Presumably licensing has much to do with this. Though, when all’s said and done, whilst ever fans keep paying the prices will keep rising.

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As a latecomer to TAS, this has arrived at just the right time for me! It is beautifully dark deco, and Mark Hamill's psycho Joker is (to me) captured perfectly.

The mass of stickers, and (much more importantly) massive price mean I'll admire it but never buy it.

It is nice though!

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By in Netherlands,

@hawkeye7269 :

Lego indeed clearly produces way, way more than any if its competitors. Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if there are individual Lego sets that sell more than a Cobi or BlueBrixx do in total. Maybe even combined. BlueBrixx is a bit of an outlier here since AFAIK they don't produce their own bricks. Cobi however does. Obviously not nearly as many different unique parts as Lego. But it would be interesting to know the number of unique parts relative to the number of sets they make (and a bit less so relative to their sales numbers). Considering the pretty big number of highly specialized moulds and prints they make that should be absolutely staggering.
(and honestly, when it comes to highly specialized moulds I'm not even the biggest fan, unless it absolutely can't be done with regular pieces)

But this also makes me wonder if Cobi even uses a similar process as lego, in which basically all pieces are treated equally, regardless if it's the most generic piece or some unique part that will (likely) only ever be used in a single set. After all, often that specialized piece won't be alone, but instead will be part of a collection just for that one set. I kinda would expect them to treat those as such, resulting in a set of pieces effectively becoming one further on down the line. They even have pieces that need to stay together (or sometimes actually are pre-assembled) because of perfectly aligned multi-piece prints with no gaps at all.

And I kinda think Lego is already doing something like that: Just look at minifigs. There seems to be no end on creating new parts or prints for those, even when they often are barely different from already existing pieces and will often only be used in a single set. And AFAIK those don't fall under that the same limitations as other pieces either.

And I fully understand it all isn't that easy nor will it be cheap. But I have a hard time believing Lego production is more expensive than much smaller competitors, at least relative to their ginormous production volume. maybe they should split things up to some degree, after all does it make sense that a €300+ 18+ set is held back by, say, some 4+ set? And if that's really the case, they better make a choice: Do we want to be the premium quality brand in the business, or do we only care about quantity and therefore cut corners wherever we can. You can only keep pretending to be something you're not for so long, eventually costumers will find out. Though obviously, if you can keep raking in billions before they do, don't change too quickly :-)

And sure, I fully understand prints are more expensive as stickers. But as long as Lego keeps increasing their prices while presenting record profits, I kinda have a feeling there's only a very loose relation between production cost and sales price. Prices aren't defined by production costs, but more by how much they can get away with asking for it. So from a business point of view it obviously makes total sense to offer the lowest possible quality at the highest possible price. But I'm not part of the business, I'm the customer. One that cares about value and quality. And thus is a bit more often disappointed by the company than he would want to be.

As I've said many times before: I don't really mind paying premium prices, as long as I get the quality to match. And flagship sets should represent the best the company is capable of, with very little room for compromises.

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By in United States,

Not a huge comics fan but this set looks amazing.

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By in United States,

@ohrmazd said:
"Hoping this leads to a Phantasm minifig and gateway to Batman Beyond."

I’d love to see the Gray Ghost, myself. Loved it whenever Adam West dropped in as a guest voice in a Batman cartoon. And whenever Conroy and Hamill did it after this series, for that matter.

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By in Poland,

For the price it has to few Minifigures. It should have Riddler, penguin, Gordon, ... All of them!

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By in United States,

Neat build but an underwhelming selection of minifigures. There are at least a dozen variations of Batman and Joker as-is.

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By in United States,

@LegoLover58 said:
"Neat build but an underwhelming selection of minifigures. There are at least a dozen variations of Batman and Joker as-is."

Batman does have the most official variant minifigs, in large part thanks to TLBM cranking out the crazy batsuits. Joker is most likely top ten, but I don’t think he makes top five. Regardless, they could have leaned on the 2006 Joker and 2008 Harley, but the minifig selection largely makes sense. While I made my own B:TAS Batman all the way back in 2007, they’ve never done the Silver Age oval logo on a black/grey costume. Joker is one of the most iconic portrayals of that character, and Harley was created for and first appeared in B:TAS (as well as being one of the most popular comic character of all time). Catwoman is the only odd choice. While I absolutely love the inclusion, there are so many other iconic designs from the series that I’d love to see, I don’t know if I would have picked her to take the fourth spot if I’d been given the choice.

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I hope they bring out some dlc minifigures. Similar to the 60's Mr Freeze

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