How well could Ashoka’s Interceptor double as Obi-Wan’s?

Why is 75402 so expensive. I hoped it will be 50 € or maybe 55€ but 60€ is a bit to expensive

Each one of those sets should have an RRP £10/$10 less.

75410, well...

Oddly enough I think the Baby Yoda set is the best priced, and it’s the most expensive one.

Also, you forgot a set that was announced, 10454: Mickey Mouse Clubhouse & Car

Yoda's Jedi Starfighter, set no. 75360, came out in 2023. It retailed for $34.99, had 253 pieces, and came with two minifigures.

Ashoka's Jedi Interceptor, set no. 75401, is releasing in 2025. It will retails for $44.99, will have 290 pieces, and will come with three minifigures.

So 37 more pieces and one more minifigure equate to a $10 increase in price?

Brickset, as a member of the LAN, what feedback can you provide from LEGO on why the increase in price? $0.10 a piece (an arbitrary comparison at best) would mean a $3.70 increase. What value does a SW minifig garner, the same as a CMF at $5.00? The parts for the 3rd minifig are probably included in the 37 more pieces. Let's say the 3rd minifig is Ashoka, consisting of eight pieces. Hence there are really 29 more pieces and the third minifig. $2.90 + $5.00 + $34.99 = $42.89.

Is is fair to say the $2.10 increase is justified from 2023 to 2025?

@VictorvanSchagen said:
"I see some weird new sloped piece in 75401 Ahsoka's Jedi Interceptor, next to the cockpit. Looks like a brand new design."

The piece with a sticker? It's actually been in speed champion sets from the last year or two.

@Maxbricks14 said:
"Very nice wave, one of the best Star Wars has had in a while. I'll be getting 75402, and maybe 75404."

I will be getting 75402, and 75403 75410 since I am collecting every Mandalorian set

I'll grab the two ship collection releases in time; they're both fun builds, although woefully overpriced. The same issue applies to the ARC—which I will also be getting—but at least that one has four brand-new minifigures! I appreciate that it isn't as obscenely large as the last version. It looks very sturdy and compact!

@shedjed said:
"Where are the mechs!!! I need that yoda... or chewy.... or han.... or Leia mech!!!

Hell id love a Jar Jar mech too! Mech mech mech mech!"

Mech mech mech meh!

Ahsoka's Jedi Interceptor and the ARC-170 Starfighter are day one purchases, well as soon as I'm able to buy them lol!

All of these are only justitiable at 40% discount, what a shame!

Meh. I'm just not a big fan of the downsizing. I bought the new Sith infiltrator and the T-6 shuttle and I was disappointed by both. I much prefer my olderT-6 and I'm afraid the same will happen with the ARC-170.
The miniscales don't tickle my fancy too much either (although I buckled at 40% off for the Tantive).
I would like Grogu if it was just Grogu with the frog and without the bucket and plaque.
So nothing from this wave... That frees up some budget for an older set!

I'd likely have gone for the Starfighter at £30, but £40 is obscene. Jedi Bob's Starfighter had more pieces and was £5 cheaper, and it was in a wave recent to this, so I can't imagine why the price has gone up.

@Loerwyn said:
"I'd likely have gone for the Starfighter at £30, but £40 is obscene. Jedi Bob's Starfighter had more pieces and was £5 cheaper, and it was in a wave recent to this, so I can't imagine why the price has gone up."

Because 'growth'. Let's say you sell Lego toys for 31 billions in a given year (year X). Even if you had nice profits and everybody was happy with that, they (the shareholders - even family owned businesses have shareholders) will not be happy if you produce sales of 31 billions in year X+1. As as director/manager/CEO, you need to 'grow' the business somehow. There are a few ways to do this: (1) increasing volume i.e. selling more items, (2) increasing sales i.e. selling at a higher price, (3) developing new markets - could be geographical and/or product offering (Lego does not have a good track record on that front: Galidor, Znap, etc). So, 31 billions is the number to beat this year. Better get cracking at it...

It would be nice to get some playsets from the separatist side as well. I like the two clone wars ships, but I'll wait for a bigger sale.

Midi-scale collectors are brutally ripped off. These are 30-40 euro sets at most.

And that 4+ mando ship is probably the worst SW set ever. I'll have to buy the droid separately.

I liked the ARC-170 so much but its Brazilian price is going to be EXTREMELY INSANE. Sad that I will probably need to drop the hobby soon.

I want a few of these

Wow ARC-170 after 14 year wait? Yes looks a little stumpy but not too bad. Great we're getting 3 different coloured helmets so we can tell the pilots apart. Anyway....nice one.

Most of the prices are beyond insane imho.
Add to that the fact that most of the sets look terrible or at least not better than what came before. For me LEGO Star Wars has run its course. I'm not going to buy a single set from this wave, not even at the usual massive discounts.
From the entire 2025 lineup of sets revealed so far, the only ones I find desirable at all are the Creator 3 in 1 animals sets.
2025 appears to be a relief for my wallet, especially now that BlueBrixx Star Trek has been canceled too.

$70 for the ARC... sheesh. Hopefully I can find it on a good discount somewhere.

If that pram thing had a liftable windshield and was blue, it would make a passable Nick Bluetooth module for Galidor.

Excited to see the ARC, though it does seem a bit small to me. Price is ridiculous, as also the case with Ahsoka's Interceptor. Will wait for a solid $20 off the ARC-170 before I pick it up.

I'm not really excited about any of these. Maybe except for the ARC, but not at that price.

Thankfully nothing here interests me except Home One. Grogu looks terrible. Can’t unsee his square moustache and baggy eyes

@Talint said:
"Yoda's Jedi Starfighter, set no. 75360, came out in 2023. It retailed for $34.99, had 253 pieces, and came with two minifigures.

Ashoka's Jedi Interceptor, set no. 75401, is releasing in 2025. It will retails for $44.99, will have 290 pieces, and will come with three minifigures.

So 37 more pieces and one more minifigure equate to a $10 increase in price?

Brickset, as a member of the LAN, what feedback can you provide from LEGO on why the increase in price? $0.10 a piece (an arbitrary comparison at best) would mean a $3.70 increase. What value does a SW minifig garner, the same as a CMF at $5.00? The parts for the 3rd minifig are probably included in the 37 more pieces. Let's say the 3rd minifig is Ashoka, consisting of eight pieces. Hence there are really 29 more pieces and the third minifig. $2.90 + $5.00 + $34.99 = $42.89.

Is is fair to say the $2.10 increase is justified from 2023 to 2025? "

Simple answer: they are both overpriced.

I'm loving the description of 75402's crew. "Clone Pilot Odd Ball, Clone Pilot Jag, Clone Pilot." The last guy doesn't get a name, poor guy. Also, I was a little tempted by 75410, but if it's going to be fifty dollard, that temptation is gone. Although if the thirty dollar price that @wsmit99 suggested is true, I might yet pick it up.

The only thing I want is that Acclamator Assault Ship, LEGO and Disney have pushed me out of purchasing more sets.

@Brickmasterboy said:
" @Studio_Brickton said:
"The first two comments being polar opposites made me chuckle."

As intended ;)

Genuinely not impressed though. The arc-170 looks fine but not a ship I’ve cared much for. If there are nice discounts I’ll consider. I already have the better Grogu so there’s that. The rest just feel meh"

Yeah, quite funny how diverse opinions can be on this site.

@ALSTDA said:
"The subject matter is increasingly tedious and the prices have long been out of hand... I haven't bought any Star Wars Lego in several years now! Other themes are just way better value and much more fun :)"

I feel this. I settled on LEGO Space this year as it was very nice and the price was very fair. The last LEGO Star Wars set I got that was priced relatively fairly was the super Battle Pack with the 3 shinies in it. Everything since has been one big OOOOW just to look at for my wallet.

Thank god that the clone vehicle for this wave is less than $100 USD. I will be picking up 2 and replacing Oddball and Jags helmets…

The ARC fighter is the only good one here. 100% gonna get that once it's discounted to below 50.

But there's only 2 actual, regular playsets and no battle pack in the winter wave, when has it been this dire before? At least my wallet will breathe a sigh of relief!

The Arc-170 looks good, but not giving the clones dual-moulded legs feels a bit disappointing, especially at a $70 price point. I don't normally like to bicker about minifigures, especially when the rest of the set looks this good, but really? Especially when all three figs are almost identical, it's disappointing to see.

I'm lowkey convinced Disney is involved in jacking up these prices. These are INSANE even for Lego Star Wars lately...

Oh good. Nothing to add to the wanted list. Successful wave for my wallet.

@myla said:
"Oh my goodness! Yeah!!! I'm sooooooooooo happy they made a set dedicated to the time Ahsoka got her entire squad killed!! Woaah, how amazing!

Now seriously, this is a fine wave of Star Wars sets still daunting to the wallet, but that's how it is now...

When do we get Republic Commando sets? I will diligently wait for them as I wait for Silksong, but I do think Republic commando sets would be cool... "

If you're talking about the Storm over Ryloth episode, she was actually piloting her Delta-7B, which was released by LEGO as set 7751 in 2009.

@rihenrob said:
"The Arc-170 looks good, but not giving the clones dual-moulded legs feels a bit disappointing, especially at a $70 price point. I don't normally like to bicker about minifigures, especially when the rest of the set looks this good, but really? Especially when all three figs are almost identical, it's disappointing to see. "

I wonder what people would say if LEGO released a 396 parts Arc-170 for $87. Oh wait, they did! In 2010! Set 8088. (The set was $60 then, which is $87 in today's money).

In all honesty, as far as inflation goes, LEGO prices are not the worst. Food prices have double in Canada in the past 5-6 years. Mortgages have increased by 30-50%. Gaz is about $4.75 a gallon. LEGO sets have increased 20%-25%, which seems ok to me, all things considered.

@Trigger_ said:
"How well could Ashoka’s Interceptor double as Obi-Wan’s?"

Not well. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/0/04/Eta-2JediInterceptor-USC.png/revision/latest?cb=20231105182911

Grogu looks old, that's all I have to say.

@Lego_lord said:
"Grogu looks old, that's all I have to say."

He's fifty. You callin' fifty OLD?!

The greedflation is upsetting to me because of the poor quality more than the prices. The lack of detail on the display ships. The tiny size of the ARC. The lack of arm printing on Ahsoka.

I used to buy the full SW wave on Day 1. Now, I wait for large discounts. I don't mind. I have a huge backlog of unbuilt sets.

Princess Leia Organs (Bespin Gown) Mech, when?

@eiffel006 said:
" @rihenrob said:
"The Arc-170 looks good, but not giving the clones dual-moulded legs feels a bit disappointing, especially at a $70 price point. I don't normally like to bicker about minifigures, especially when the rest of the set looks this good, but really? Especially when all three figs are almost identical, it's disappointing to see. "

I wonder what people would say if LEGO released a 396 parts Arc-170 for $87. Oh wait, they did! In 2010! Set 8088. (The set was $60 then, which is $87 in today's money).

In all honesty, as far as inflation goes, LEGO prices are not the worst. Food prices have double in Canada in the past 5-6 years. Mortgages have increased by 30-50%. Gaz is about $4.75 a gallon. LEGO sets have increased 20%-25%, which seems ok to me, all things considered. "

This is a contradictory post, you're claiming that Lego sold a set at this price before (taking inflation into account) yet then moaning about inflation being high for everything else. I could say well "gas was $4.75 a gallon 5-6 years ago (with inflation) and now it is $4.75 a gallon", see with inflation everything costs the same!

The global concern about inflation is that it has outstripped wages, so proportionally to wages everything costs more.

This issue with the prices here is how do you explain to price increases for SW and Marvel, whereas HP and the new modular set are much cheaper (piece-wise). Me-thinks Disney tax.

@MegaBlocks said:
" @eiffel006 said:
" @rihenrob said:
"The Arc-170 looks good, but not giving the clones dual-moulded legs feels a bit disappointing, especially at a $70 price point. I don't normally like to bicker about minifigures, especially when the rest of the set looks this good, but really? Especially when all three figs are almost identical, it's disappointing to see. "

true, any talk about inflation MUST take purchasing power into consideration.

I wonder what people would say if LEGO released a 396 parts Arc-170 for $87. Oh wait, they did! In 2010! Set 8088. (The set was $60 then, which is $87 in today's money).

In all honesty, as far as inflation goes, LEGO prices are not the worst. Food prices have double in Canada in the past 5-6 years. Mortgages have increased by 30-50%. Gaz is about $4.75 a gallon. LEGO sets have increased 20%-25%, which seems ok to me, all things considered. "

This is a contradictory post, you're claiming that Lego sold a set at this price before (taking inflation into account) yet then moaning about inflation being high for everything else. I could say well "gas was $4.75 a gallon 5-6 years ago (with inflation) and now it is $4.75 a gallon", see with inflation everything costs the same!

The global concern about inflation is that it has outstripped wages, so proportionally to wages everything costs more.

This issue with the prices here is how do you explain to price increases for SW and Marvel, whereas HP and the new modular set are much cheaper (piece-wise). Me-thinks Disney tax."

true. any talk about inflation must take purchasing power into consideration.

@560heliport said:
" @Lego_lord said:
"Grogu looks old, that's all I have to say."

He's fifty. You callin' fifty OLD?!"

That's what I'm saying, he shouldn't look old, he is just fifty... :))

@StyleCounselor said:
"The greedflation is upsetting to me because of the poor quality more than the prices. The lack of detail on the display ships. The tiny size of the ARC. The lack of arm printing on Ahsoka.

I used to buy the full SW wave on Day 1. Now, I wait for large discounts. I don't mind. I have a huge backlog of unbuilt sets."

Hear, hear (except for the buying part), seems the SW-sets get sloppier and sloppier for each year and the quality regarding minifigures are just not there anymore. Bought the Jabba-ship without the minifigures and didn´t hesitate one second.

This wave is even worse than the January 2021 wave or the April 2020 wave... only two playscale sets is crazy, especially when both are somewhat overpriced. Again the 18+ line continues to produce more and more horrendously priced sets which get less and less exciting every time. And the 4+ line continues to be tat.

This combined with the rumours for next year make it really hard for me to be excited about this theme, which is a real shame because we've had some pretty solid years recently.

@Lamarider said:
" @StyleCounselor said:
"The greedflation is upsetting to me because of the poor quality more than the prices. The lack of detail on the display ships. The tiny size of the ARC. The lack of arm printing on Ahsoka.

I used to buy the full SW wave on Day 1. Now, I wait for large discounts. I don't mind. I have a huge backlog of unbuilt sets."

Hear, hear (except for the buying part), seems the SW-sets get sloppier and sloppier for each year and the quality regarding minifigures are just not there anymore. Bought the Jabba-ship without the minifigures and didn´t hesitate one second."

You're not wrong. I should undoubtedly stop caring about getting the new, poor releases, and just concentrate on what is done well.

Wings and nose are too small are the Arc-170. It looks borderline chibi style. The Interceptor design is not great either. Not a fan of the new play scale LEGO uses, I preferred the slightly larger ships.

Home One phone home!

Small models with high prices and simple designs. Luckily there are still plenty of sets currently available like 75374 and 75397 to keep kids and dads busy this Christmas.

@Cyclones423 said:
"Wings and nose are too small are the Arc-170. It looks borderline chibi style. The Interceptor design is not great either. Not a fan of the new play scale LEGO uses, I preferred the slightly larger ships."

I keep taking a second look at the ARC-170, and I really agree with this. It's just off enough that it feels bad. I also think (though this is probably a nitpick) that I really don't like the new engine designs. I'm probably a bit too used to the old solid plastic tires they used on the 2005 and 2010 versions.

Overall I agree though - there's a few standout of the new playscale, like the 2021 X-Wing and TIE Fighters, but given that the ARC-170 has none of the price decrease, it makes me long for sets like the 2018 X-Wing. Old scale, and at least some consideration of the pricing. This one just isn't it.

The first reviews of the ARC-170 are out and the cockpit stickers don't look anything like in the box art pictures. They are not white but light grey and it makes me feel bad for everyone happily paying 70€ for this set, as it is not the best iteration of this ship that Lego ever made, nor that they could make. I'm collection playscale LSW since 1999 and it was for many years the norm (with a few exceptions) to sell off the old set and get the new version of a ship, to get the best possible version of a ship. It's amazing how often I skip new sets these days, happily owing the previous model, which is still way superior.