Vote for 1990s-inspired projects at LEGO Ideas

@bnic99 said:
"Wait, didn't we already have a 1990s ideas poll?
Or is this that same one?
Though only remember Buffy from that one, other projects are all different?"

They had 2 votes, I think separated by parts count. Honestly both kind of left me meh, I wanted more animation options. I went for Edward Scissorhands on the first & Mighty Ducks for this one because I actually watched those. But I can see the appeal of all the sets.

Meh all around. I am not sure I would buy any of them. Even on sale. I must be completely oppopsite of the final 5 here. Odd, was hoping for more after the 80s sets were so great.

Remember when is the lowest form of conversation

Wallace and Gromit!

Although the only one I wouldn't at least consider buying is the Forrest Gump - I hate that movie with the fire of a thousand suns.

I don't care much about Mighty Ducks, but the ice rink is really neat and it'd be fun to have. The Buffy minifigs would be great, and the library is a fun set. And Mr. Bean is great, too.

Cracking selection indeed… I wonder if that is a clue as to Brickset’s editorial preference.

If it is… I disagree. These are all an Easy Hard pass for me, though I'm a big W&G fan. I think that Hagrid may have ruined me for a while on any bike/sidecar sets.

I choose option number 6, none. I like the movies Forrest Gump and the Mighty Ducks and enjoy parts of Wallace & Gromit. I don't like Mr Bean and can't stand Buffy. But I have no interest in these as sets. As such I'll be voting with my dollars not buying any of these.

My main disappointment here is that there's no Babylon 5 in the vote, now that it's no longer on the list of forbidden licenses. That said, I also looked through all the entries into the contest and not a single one was of B5 (I might have entered one myself if I was any good at building in stud.io), so I guess it never stood a chance here. But still...

Out of these options, Wallace and Grommit is the only one that interests me; I've started watching their older productions recently, since Vengeance Most Fowl aired over Christmas, and I didn't realise what I'd been missing for so long! I'm not convinced that I'd buy it as a set, even so, but it does look neat :D

@SMC said:
"How is this not super controversial? Buffy the Vampire Slayer Library by Bricktoria78221 was already picked and given the chance to be made into a set by Lego in the first vote. Now an almost identical set from the same person was again picked from 271 other sets and given a second chance. Although we don't know the outcome of the first vote, the voting has closed and Lego will know that Buffy didn't win. To me it seems like Lego is keen for a Buffy set, fair enough I don't have an issue with that and they can make one under icons anytime they want. But again this seems very messy from Lego, didn't a very similar thing happen in the 80s vote where one person had two designs make it and they had to take one out?"

Just wait until they announce that, if you combine the Buffy votes from the two polls, they add up to more than any of the other options got, so that’s the only set they’ll make. And then after they’ve shipped the first run, someone will ask them about all the Whedon controversies, and they’ll realize they want nothing to do with the IP and drop it like the Osprey.

@RaiderOfTheLostBrick said:
"This is our best chance at LEGO Wallace and Gromit, so that's my pick easily. Mr Bean is a close second."

Speak for yourself. I’ve already got W&G riding in the upper deck of my 8-wide Routemaster bus, using only stock LEGO parts. But I’d still buy the set.

@ThatBionicleGuy:
Why was B5 on the restricted list in the first place?

@PurpleDave said:
" @ThatBionicleGuy:
Why was B5 on the restricted list in the first place?"

That's a good question. I remember that when they first added the feature where, before submitting a project, you can enter the IP and find out whether it's allowed or not, I tested a few things through it; B5 was one of them, and it came up as not allowed. But after their recent announcement that they'd cleared a whole lot more properties to be considered, I tried again and it was allowed now.

I would *guess* that it came down to the way characters on B5 quite openly discuss religion - either real Earth ones or made-up alien ones - in some episodes. Even though the show doesn't push any belief system over another, rather using them to illustrate the characters' different points of view on the world, I wonder if that was still enough to make Lego wary of it due to their stance of avoiding the subject of real-world religion when they can.

That is only a guess though, I really don't know for sure.

Wallace and Grommit debuted in 1989 not in the 90's.

Minifig scale mr bean car would be awesome, and affordable

The less Mr Bean in the world the better.

I absolutely loved the X-Files set in the last vote but, while some of these are good designs, none of them appeal to me personally so I'll be giving this vote a miss.

I like the Wallace and Gromit set, a cracking example of how you can make a motorbike and side car set properly without resulting in the awfulness that is 76443.

I also like the Buffy set, but obviously that hasn't won the first round, or it has and it's a conspiracy I don't want to believe.

Please do the X Files set, it deserves to be recognised as a gorgeous moc set.

As for B5, does that mean it's in development as a Lego theme? Not that I'm interested, just curious.

Like most of the comments here, Wallace and Gromit just pipped Mr Bean for me.

These are great. W&G is very good, but I can't help but vote for Mr. Bean. I want that in my city.

@daniellesa said:
"As for B5, does that mean it's in development as a Lego theme? Not that I'm interested, just curious."

I don't think so; it is allowable on Ideas now, since a couple of months or so ago they made an announcement that they were expanding the range of IPs that they'd consider, but it didn't used to be before then.

W&G all day long, that's pretty much a perfect set - Forrest looks excellent too but I never got Mr Bean; it never made the best of Rowan Atkinsons talents as a character, certainly not like Blackadder did (especially the second instalment)

So we got two votes - one for five projects inspired by films and TV shows that debuted in the 1990s and one for five projects inspired by classic films and television series released during the 1990s. Seems a pretty minor difference.

And there is an identical Buffy set by different designers - vjw1978 and Bricktoria78221 - in both. What sort of dodgy shenanigans is going on here?

That said, whilst the Buffy set was far and away my choice the first time, the Wallace & Gromit set is absolutely perfect so definitely gets my vote this time. The Mr Bean set is also great.

Wallace and Gromit set looks amazing. The designer did a great job with it. I don't know how popular it is on this side of the pond, but I could see that one winning.

I'd personally go with Mighty Ducks since that was a huge part of my childhood and it would be neat to have. But I can't say it is anything spectacular of a build. It's just nostalgia speaking (which is the purpose of a 90s poll).

And I loved watching Mr. Bean as a kid so the set would be neat, but I don't know if it is the winner here.

But I don't vote on Ideas. I let the universe decide what it thinks I need or don't need.

The Wallace and Grommit set is excellent. The rest I couldn't care less about.

The Mighty Duks propositione is far from the best entry, but I'm so starved for more sports-themed sets (and I won't deny that I'm particularly biased to hockey), that I'll gladly vote for it, especially if its content is improved.

But I really like the Mr. Bean one too.

@ShinyBidoof said:
"So we got two votes - one for five projects inspired by films and TV shows that debuted in the 1990s and one for five projects inspired by classic films and television series released during the 1990s. Seems a pretty minor difference.

And there is an identical Buffy set by different designers - vjw1978 and Bricktoria78221 - in both. What sort of dodgy shenanigans is going on here?

That said, whilst the Buffy set was far and away my choice the first time, the Wallace & Gromit set is absolutely perfect so definitely gets my vote this time. The Mr Bean set is also great."

Both by Bricktoria78221 now, I see Brickset listed it the first one as by vjw1978. Not sure why, insert lego ideas conspiracy theory...

I need that Gromm

@ThatBionicleGuy said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @ThatBionicleGuy:
Why was B5 on the restricted list in the first place?"

That's a good question. I remember that when they first added the feature where, before submitting a project, you can enter the IP and find out whether it's allowed or not, I tested a few things through it; B5 was one of them, and it came up as not allowed. But after their recent announcement that they'd cleared a whole lot more properties to be considered, I tried again and it was allowed now.

I would *guess* that it came down to the way characters on B5 quite openly discuss religion - either real Earth ones or made-up alien ones - in some episodes. Even though the show doesn't push any belief system over another, rather using them to illustrate the characters' different points of view on the world, I wonder if that was still enough to make Lego wary of it due to their stance of avoiding the subject of real-world religion when they can.

That is only a guess though, I really don't know for sure."

JMS being agnostic, Earth religions played such a minuscule part in the series that I doubt that would do it. Offhand, I know Ivanova sits shiva at one point, and there’s that one episode where Sinclair introduces people from _every_ Earth religion. There’s the mind-wiped monk, and the S4 finale monks (who aren’t necessarily religious in nature). Um…that’s four episodes out of 110 plus movies, and anything else I can think of is fictional religions from fictional species on (mostly) fictional planets. Now, nBSG, on the other hand, is drenched in religious allegory, just as the original series was intended to be.

I thought this would finally be our chance to get an Iron Giant LEGO, but I guess the license is still too out of reach. I’m disappointed that one of the five slots is taken up by a reworked design of the Buffy library by the same designer. It seems a little double-dipping, and I almost hope it wins both of these polls so LEGO is forced to reckon with this mistake and run one of the polls again with no Buffy inclusions.

Wallace & Gromit are the best of this batch, hands down! The Mr. Bean set looks fun(ny) too, although, I think I would've preferred to see his apartment as a set. Will be hard to get the face for Rowan Atkinson right in minifigure form.

While I have fond memories of Buffy, this design doesn't excite me. Then again, it's a library, so by no means it should excite me. Getting these figs right will mostly come down to using the right hair pieces -- and none of these are close.

I have little recollection of Mighty Ducks, so I just see an ice-skating ring here. The Forrest Gump set looks good, but that's not Tom Hanks... that's Bill Murray!

W&G are my heroes, and indeed still relevant having just had a new adventure at Christmas.

Mishter Bean all the way!

Wallace & Gromit is by far the best of the bunch, Mr. Bean would be my number 2.

The Forrest Gump set looks quite nice, but seems like a pretty uninteresting build. Barely remember a thing from Buffy so no clue how accurate it is, but just looking at it as a library I do like it. And that leaves the Mighty Ducks....which just looks rather uninspired, basically a minifig pack with a boring base.

You can wish Mr. Bean or W&G all you want, they will pick an American movie anyway because of Target and Make Murica great again. :(

If they do a Mr. Bean Mini Cooper, they'll need to do a follow-up set of a Reliant Robin in powder blue for the Mini to tip over.

Wallace and grommet or mr bean for me

Wallace and Gromit easily wins. It's the more respectable and internationally beloved of the UK options, the build is impressive, it has some of the best execution of Lego character sculpture design, and it's more relevant to today with the recent movie. The only thing in Mr. Bean's favor is the small size and by extension lower price point; the subject matter is annoying and the set is boring.

Forrest Gump has a more lasting cultural legacy than The Mighty Ducks, but neither feel like exciting Lego products; boring for AFOLs and dull-looking for the Adults Welcome casual crowd.

As with the last time when it was up for consideration, Buffy would amuse me into a vote just for the joke chance to get the Krana Vu in production again.

@Links said:
"I absolutely loved the X-Files set in the last vote but, while some of these are good designs, none of them appeal to me personally so I'll be giving this vote a miss."

X-Files was the best option

I preferred the prior Wallace & Gromit project that made it to the 10k review period in a prior standard Ideas cycle. I don't think of the characters first and foremost in their motorcycle and I much preferred the older project's freestanding figures in their basic looks. Right after the Mario Kart set, I'd rather not see another character build restricted by a vehicle.

nice it got posted

Wallace & Gromit for me, closely followed by Mr Bean.
I was already working on an ice hockey stadium to submit some time soon. Bad timing maybe...

@Murdoch17 said:
"If they do a Mr. Bean Mini Cooper, they'll need to do a follow-up set of a Reliant Robin in powder blue for the Mini to tip over."
Point of order... No Cooper or Robin in Mr. Bean. It was a Mini 1000 and a Reliant Regal Supervan!

@sjr60 said:
" @Murdoch17 said:
"If they do a Mr. Bean Mini Cooper, they'll need to do a follow-up set of a Reliant Robin in powder blue for the Mini to tip over."
Point of order... No Cooper or Robin in Mr. Bean. It was a Mini 1000 and a Reliant Regal Supervan!"

I learned something today!

As a buffy fan, this is twice now I've not voted for a buffy set. First time around the x-files set was just so much better. This time wallace & gromit is the set I never knew I needed, but so do.

Also I suspect lego intends to offer a buffy set at some stage no matter what.

@danieltheo said:
"W&G all day long, that's pretty much a perfect set - Forrest looks excellent too but I never got Mr Bean; it never made the best of Rowan Atkinsons talents as a character, certainly not like Blackadder did (especially the second instalment)"

Mr Bean is great in its own right, and physical comedy without expressing words also takes talent. And unlike Blackadder (which I also like), Mr Bean also easily transcend the language barrier, and I've seen reruns in Malaysia and several other East Asian countries.

@Pekingduckman said:
" @danieltheo said:
"W&G all day long, that's pretty much a perfect set - Forrest looks excellent too but I never got Mr Bean; it never made the best of Rowan Atkinsons talents as a character, certainly not like Blackadder did (especially the second instalment)"

Mr Bean is great in its own right, and physical comedy without expressing words also takes talent. And unlike Blackadder (which I also like), Mr Bean also easily transcend the language barrier, and I've seen reruns in Malaysia and several other East Asian countries."

Mr. Bean also merited a feature film that played in the US, which Blackadder has not. I mean, I don't know how popular the Mr. Bean movie was in the US vs the UK, but I went and watched it with at least a couple friends from college. And as @R0Sch hinted at, an IP doesn't have to be based in the US to get licensed, but they do seem to steer clear of IP that isn't at least marketable in the US.

But the most important thing here is that I just learned today that there's a new W&G film, so now I'm off to order a copy.

I would buy none of them. Where is the x-files set and where are Ren & Stimpy?

Wallace & Gromit, if it happens, I'll get it.

"cast your vote". Not "cast you vote".
Mr Bean or Wallace and Gromit for me, but I'm still not sure I'd actually buy either.
Wonder how many votes the Mighty Ducks will get from outside of North America?

Saw 1990s and thought it would be a tribute to 1990s lego, but no. I'm disappointed.

@Brickodillo said:
"(...) where are Ren & Stimpy?"
I would pay good money for a LEGO 'Don't Whiz on the Electric Fence' game.

I dont understand how the shaping on the mouth for the Wallace and Gromit set is accomplished. I see the teeth and open mouth are printed, but what parts are used to accomplish the shape of the wide open lips? It's got to be multiple parts, right? If so, LEGO would never get the printing to align the way it does across multiple pieces here. If not, I have no idea what kind of magically perfectly shaped large tile that is.

If they don't produce the W&G set I really don't know what Lego Inc is good for anymore, an absolutely perfect build with excellent parts use, the other sets are very rudimental in comparison

I believe Buffy will win since I heard a reboot/continuation is coming out next year?

@MrKoshka said:
"I dont understand how the shaping on the mouth for the Wallace and Gromit set is accomplished. I see the teeth and open mouth are printed, but what parts are used to accomplish the shape of the wide open lips? It's got to be multiple parts, right? If so, LEGO would never get the printing to align the way it does across multiple pieces here. If not, I have no idea what kind of magically perfectly shaped large tile that is."

Wallace has 1x1 round corner tiles in the upper corners of the mouth, and 2x2 macaroni tiles nested around more 1x1 round corner tiles in the lower corners. So, yeah, even if they print them in one combined pass, the 1x1 parts have enough wiggle that it’d be difficult to get all the prints to stay lined up correctly.