Who’s Missing: Star Wars Inquisitors
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The Star Wars May the Fourth celebrations are coming to an end today, so there's just time to publish this article by guest author SearchlightRG:
Since my previous article on this subject was published nearly two years ago, there have been a number of additions and revelations regarding the ranks of the Inquisitors. Unfortunately, we have received only one additional Inquisitor minifigure in that time. As such, there are still plenty of Inquisitors still awaiting their LEGO debut. Whether or not some or any of them will get it remains to be seen.
The four Inquisitors to have received minifigures so far are as follows:
- The Grand Inquisitor, from sets 75082 TIE Advanced Prototype and 75336 Inquisitor Transport Scythe, who was introduced in Star Wars Rebels and has also made appearances in Obi-Wan Kenobi and Tales of the Empire.
- Marrok, the First Brother, from set 75362 Ahsoka Tano's T-6 Jedi Shuttle, who appears briefly in Tales of the Empire and more prominently in Star Wars Ahsoka.
- Reva Sevander, the Third Sister, from set 75336, who debuted in Obi-Wan Kenobi.
- The Fifth Brother, from sets 75157 Captain Rex's AT-TE and 75336, who as you might gather from those sets appeared in Rebels and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Trilla Suduri, the Second Sister
The next lowest numbered Inquisitor we know of is the Second Sister. She appears most prominently as the main antagonist of the 2019 game Jedi: Fallen Order. LEGO has regrettably not touched much upon the Jedi games, with only one full set, 75335 BD-1, dedicated to the theme. However, protagonist Cal Kestis did make an appearance in 75394 Imperial Star Destroyer last year as part of the LEGO Star Wars 25th Anniversary.
This clearly shows that the franchise is on LEGO’s radar. With any luck, we may eventually get a Second Sister to go with our Cal. It’s hard to say just where she might appear though, unless an additional Fallen Order set or other materialises or she returns in some other project. It’s probably a bit soon for us to be getting her in an apparently anachronistic TIE Interceptor after 75348 Mandalorian Fang Fighter vs TIE Interceptor and 75382 TIE Interceptor.
Lyn Rakish, the Fourth Sister
First appearing in Obi-Wan Kenobi, the Fourth Sister got a rather more prominent appearance-and an actual name reveal-in Tales of the Empire. We still don’t know her species, but that’s also the case with several other Inquisitors. Personally I kind of wonder if she might be a female Iktochi, the same species as the Prequel Era Jedi Master Saesee Tiin. Regardless, those horns or whatever they are growing out of her head certainly might be tricky to capture in LEGO.
Just like in my previous article, I feel like the Fourth Sister’s most likely chance at a set appearance is probably Fortress Inquisitorius, the Inquisitors' home base. That’s unless some upcoming project features her in some action scene or with a vehicle or other location that might make for an appealing build. As it is, I don’t think her Kenobi or Tales appearances offer much. Or, in the case of the latter, are likely to be approved by LEGO given how dark some of her scenes are.
Bil Valen, the Sixth Brother
If there is a single digit Inquisitor less notable than the Fourth Sister, it is the Sixth Brother. Featured in the novel Ahsoka and a number of comics, he has yet to appear outside of printed material. Ahsoka is also in a bit of an odd place canonically, as the climactic confrontation between Ahsoka Tano and the Sixth Brother in that novel has since seemingly been replaced by Ahsoka’s encounter with a separate Inquisitor in Tales of the Jedi. Barring some other appearance, I figure Sixth’s only real hope is a possible slot in a Fortress Inquisitorius set.
The Seventh Sister
Unlike most of the other Inquisitors yet to receive minifigures, we actually have some idea of what the Seventh Sister would look like. She got the minifigure treatment in LEGO Star Wars: The Force Awakens as part of a Rebels themed DLC. Unfortunately, the apparent failure of the Rebels LEGO theme ended our chances of getting a physical version, at least at the time. But as the Grand Inquisitor and Fifth Brother have gotten additional appearances since Rebels, a return by the Seventh Sister-and thus an opportunity for a physical figure-isn’t entirely without hope.
Barring new material or the revisiting of scenes from Rebels, Fortress Inquisitorius seems like another good bet for the Seventh Sister. Alternatively, if LEGO ever decided on a new version of the TIE Advanced Prototype from 75082, the Second Sister would certainly be an ideal inclusion. She is one of at least four Inquisitors known to have piloted one of these fighters.
The Eighth Brother
The last of the Inquisitors featured in Rebels, the Terrellian Jango Jumper known as the Eighth Brother was also the least prominent. He appeared only in the season two finale, “Twilight of the Apprentice.” Since then his appearances have been limited to comics and games. As such, barring some new project, his best chance at a LEGO appearance also would seem to be Fortress Inquisitorius or a new TIE Advanced Prototype.
Masana Tide, the Ninth Sister
Like the Second Sister, the Ninth Sister appeared most prominently in Jedi: Fallen Order. Unlike the Second Sister, the Ninth Sister is a hulking figure, a member of the Dowutin species. She thus seems a natural candidate to be made into a BigFig. This would be a big deal, as the only female BigFig we’ve had previously is Dogshank from Ninjago.
The Ninth Sister’s apparent preferred mode of transportation is the TIE Reaper, and it seems like a no-brainer to include her in a set based on it. Basically we’d be getting a Star Wars version of 76049 Avenjet Space Mission or 76028 Darkseid Invasion, but if anyone’s getting a little speeder build it’s the poor sap getting hunted by the big bruiser.
The Eleventh Brother
Now, you may be wondering “wait, why is he skipping from Nine to Eleven?” Patience, folks; we’ll get there.
It was recently revealed that this impressive-looking fellow, seen in both Tales of the Jedi and Tales of the Empire, is known as the Eleventh Brother. The former series saw him face off against Ahsoka Tano, but no sets based upon either series have yet materialised. As such, he seems yet another Inquisitor whose only real hope for a LEGO minifigure would seem to be a Fortress Inquisitorius set with a hefty roster of minifigures.
Barriss Offee, the ? Sister
So I’m guessing that unless you missed even promotional material for Tales of the Empire, you’re aware that the fallen Jedi Barriss Offee was featured in that series. Barriss ultimately joined the ranks of the Inquisitors, though her numeric designation wasn’t revealed in that series. Barriss is another character who seems most likely to find inclusion in a Fortress Inquisitorius set.
Other Inquisitors
The trailer for Star Wars: Tales of the Underworld has teased the introduction of yet another Inquisitor. It is unclear as yet what their numerical designation is, and if the series repeats the trend of the previous Tales installments we may not find out from the episodes themselves. We have no confirmed Twelfth Inquisitor as yet, nor has the numbering gone beyond Thirteenth. But a few materials have also referenced a thus far unseen Third Brother, whose number could potentially have been reassigned to Reva following his demise. That would throw a whole other wrench in the whole Inquisitorius setup if it is the case.
As promised, now we talk about Inquisitor 10 the Tenth Brother, Prosset Dibs. Like the Sixth Brother, this guy’s appearances have so far been confined to print, specifically comics.
Yet another pair of print-exclusive Inquisitors are Iskat Akaris, the Thirteenth Sister, and Tualon Yaluna, a male Twi’lek Inquisitor of unknown numeric designation. As well as appearing in comics, these two were also featured in Inquisitors: Rise of the Red Blade, a novel. The pair and Prosset seem rather unlikely to receive figures, unless LEGO starts tapping into the Star Wars comics for inspiration.
There have been a few other Inquisitors featured in various material, most notably a couple in Star Wars Visions. My particularly favourite is this fellow, who shows up to battle a Jedi droid inspired by Astro Boy. Sadly, Visions hasn’t inspired any sets yet either, and their chances of getting figures or sets thus seem only slightly better than those of the print Inquisitors.
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2nd Sister is the best inquisitor design. We need more Jedi: Fallen order/Survivor sets
Tremayne and Jerec when
Jedi Temple or Fortress Inquisitorius, neither is likely to get a set. Lego will remake certain sets or ships over and over, but some material they seem to skip forever.
Perhaps the upcoming Maul series might be the best opportunity to get some new Lego Inquisitors. If I remember correctly Marrok is in the leaked trailer? They will almost certainly bring back other characters to it.
@ELH2806 said:
"2nd Sister is the best inquisitor design. We need more Jedi: Fallen order/Survivor sets"
I came here to say exactly this. I own a fairly cool custom 2nd Sister but I would die for an official one.
Barriss Offee, the ? Sister
Irish?
Lego, make a purge trooper battle pack with the airborne clone helmets, and my life, is yours.
I'd love to see a gigantic Duel On Malachir set in the style of 75365
They're much cooler than the garbage Knights of Ren. An Inquisitor battle pack could cover the most famous.
The rule of two until we needed a whole lot of new villains with lightsabers.
I continue to be bewildered by the number of *prominent* force-users who survived the Jedi purge up to the Rebelliion era, none of whom met Luke in any capacity.* Pre-Disney purchase, yes, there were a few Order 66 survivors, but either 1) they were really, really, really in hiding, or 2) Luke eventually did meet them, somewhere (usually after ROTJ).
The Inquisitors are a weird case where yeah, a few of them were killed off, but the final fate of a lot of them is still unknown and I can only assume they were around between Episodes IV and VI until someone says otherwise. (Yes, I know Reva met young Luke.)
(There's a very odd scene in one of the post-Disney comics where Luke is at a briefing with Hera and Zeb, and, like, we never see Hera go up to Luke and be like: oh, a Jedi? My husband was one of those. Let me tell you about....)
* - I don't think Yoda's comment "the last of the Jedi you will be" needs to be a controlling canonical statement of the actual number of Force users in the galaxy, but every time another force user shows up, it does de-mystify the idea that Luke is the last one left. That, or we're left with incredibly technical arguments that Ahsoka and Ezra aren't technically Jedi because they were never knighted, etc.
@Somnium said:
"They're much cooler than the garbage Knights of Ren. An Inquisitor battle pack could cover the most famous. "
Ep. IX Knights of Ren, I agree, but apparently in the comics, they’re a roving gang of edgy and boisterous metal heads committing petty crimes and the such, which is way funnier and more interesting than the silent badasses that aren’t actually badasses trope.
Star Wars has leaned on that one a lot ever since Boba Fett.
I always suspected Barriss was the second sister first before she left the inquisitorious
@Prof_Physika said:
" @Somnium said:
"They're much cooler than the garbage Knights of Ren. An Inquisitor battle pack could cover the most famous. "
Ep. IX Knights of Ren, I agree, but apparently in the comics, they’re a roving gang of edgy and boisterous metal heads committing petty crimes and the such, which is way funnier and more interesting than the silent badasses that aren’t actually badasses trope.
Star Wars has leaned on that one a lot ever since Boba Fett."
Yeah, the Knights don't do a whole lot in Ep. IX, but their designs are really cool. I have all six of them in my collection, and they look awesome flanking Kylo Ren on display.
In regards to this article, it boggles my mind that we never got a Seventh Sister minifigure, as she was a very prominent villain in the second season of Rebels. I'm honestly surprised that TLG chose to include Fifth Brother with 75157 instead of her, but I suppose that was because Fifth Brother was introduced in the same episode as Rex's AT-TE.
Hopefully LEGO decides to revisit making Rebels sets soon — I'd love to see some more from that series.
Which inquisitor was in the 1st episode of Tales of the Underworld? Kinda looked like the the 10th brother.
@BabuBrick said:
" @Prof_Physika said:
" @Somnium said:
"They're much cooler than the garbage Knights of Ren. An Inquisitor battle pack could cover the most famous. "
Ep. IX Knights of Ren, I agree, but apparently in the comics, they’re a roving gang of edgy and boisterous metal heads committing petty crimes and the such, which is way funnier and more interesting than the silent badasses that aren’t actually badasses trope.
Star Wars has leaned on that one a lot ever since Boba Fett."
Yeah, the Knights don't do a whole lot in Ep. IX, but their designs are really cool. I have all six of them in my collection, and they look awesome flanking Kylo Ren on display."
Haha, same here. I like the minifigs, but in terms of actually doing things and being cool, praetorian guards all the way. Say what you will about The Last Jedi, that fight scene is everything JJ Abrams wishes his was.
@ResIpsaLoquitur said:
"I continue to be bewildered by the number of *prominent* force-users who survived the Jedi purge up to the Rebelliion era, none of whom met Luke in any capacity.* Pre-Disney purchase, yes, there were a few Order 66 survivors, but either 1) they were really, really, really in hiding, or 2) Luke eventually did meet them, somewhere (usually after ROTJ).
The Inquisitors are a weird case where yeah, a few of them were killed off, but the final fate of a lot of them is still unknown and I can only assume they were around between Episodes IV and VI until someone says otherwise. (Yes, I know Reva met young Luke.)
(There's a very odd scene in one of the post-Disney comics where Luke is at a briefing with Hera and Zeb, and, like, we never see Hera go up to Luke and be like: oh, a Jedi? My husband was one of those. Let me tell you about....)
* - I don't think Yoda's comment "the last of the Jedi you will be" needs to be a controlling canonical statement of the actual number of Force users in the galaxy, but every time another force user shows up, it does de-mystify the idea that Luke is the last one left. That, or we're left with incredibly technical arguments that Ahsoka and Ezra aren't technically Jedi because they were never knighted, etc."
I think we are supposed to assume that the Inquisitorius is all but gone by the time of the Original Trilogy.
The initial survival rate of Order 66 is often estimated at about 1% of all Jedi, so roughly 100. I just looked at Wookieepedia and they list 70 survivors of the initial purge, including Jedi who became Inquisitors. Apart from those whose fates are known, I would assume a large number of those survivors were killed within a year or two of Order 66 and as we get towards the Original Trilogy seventeen years later, the vast majority were gone. The few remaining survivors by then were likely assumed to have died or become irrelevant, so I can imagine the Inquisitorius being wound down, perhaps without recruiting replacements for those who had been killed. I doubt the Grand Inquisitor was replaced after the first season of Star Wars Rebels, for example.
In fact, if I may engage in some brief speculation, maybe Darth Vader's appearance in Rogue One could be preceded by him visiting the Fortress Inquisitorius and massacring any remaining Inquisitors because they are deemed surplus to requirements. Perhaps that is what prompts Tarkin's comment about Darth Vader being all that is left of the Jedi religion in A New Hope, as he knows the Inquisitorius was recently disbanded.
The one Jedi survival situation that baffles me is Luminara Unduli, as we know from Rebels that she was captured and executed. I am not sure why Clone Troopers would bother to capture a Jedi under any circumstances, but it is particularly weird because we know Luminara was on Kashyyyk when Order 66 took place and perhaps even on the Kachirho beach, so I struggle to envisage how she would have been captured in such a chaotic situation, rather than killed.
@brickwich said:
" Say what you will about The Last Jedi, that fight scene is everything JJ Abrams wishes his was."
I can't imagine there is anything that JJ covets from The Last Jedi.
@brickwich said:
" @BabuBrick said:
" @Prof_Physika said:
" @Somnium said:
"They're much cooler than the garbage Knights of Ren. An Inquisitor battle pack could cover the most famous. "
Ep. IX Knights of Ren, I agree, but apparently in the comics, they’re a roving gang of edgy and boisterous metal heads committing petty crimes and the such, which is way funnier and more interesting than the silent badasses that aren’t actually badasses trope.
Star Wars has leaned on that one a lot ever since Boba Fett."
Yeah, the Knights don't do a whole lot in Ep. IX, but their designs are really cool. I have all six of them in my collection, and they look awesome flanking Kylo Ren on display."
Haha, same here. I like the minifigs, but in terms of actually doing things and being cool, praetorian guards all the way. Say what you will about The Last Jedi, that fight scene is everything JJ Abrams wishes his was."
Yeah, the Praetorian Guards were really cool! As was that duel! But, I definitely prefer the Abrams films to TLJ.
@BabuBrick said:
" @brickwich said:
" @BabuBrick said:
" @Prof_Physika said:
" @Somnium said:
"They're much cooler than the garbage Knights of Ren. An Inquisitor battle pack could cover the most famous. "
Ep. IX Knights of Ren, I agree, but apparently in the comics, they’re a roving gang of edgy and boisterous metal heads committing petty crimes and the such, which is way funnier and more interesting than the silent badasses that aren’t actually badasses trope.
Star Wars has leaned on that one a lot ever since Boba Fett."
Yeah, the Knights don't do a whole lot in Ep. IX, but their designs are really cool. I have all six of them in my collection, and they look awesome flanking Kylo Ren on display."
Haha, same here. I like the minifigs, but in terms of actually doing things and being cool, praetorian guards all the way. Say what you will about The Last Jedi, that fight scene is everything JJ Abrams wishes his was."
Yeah, the Praetorian Guards were really cool! As was that duel! But, I definitely prefer the Abrams films to TLJ."
For me, it was just too "We outnumber the good guys, so let's attack them one at a time."
Edit to add: Kylo turning the lightsaber on and off, right through the Praetorian's head was really cool, though!
I watched the whole Tales of the Underworld series and I don't think that the mysterious inquisitor will be appearing in any other media so I doubt he'll be coming in any sets.
@MonsterFighter we have yet to learn where she stood in the numbering scheme, assuming that was in place during her time in the Inquisitorius.
@Somnium I suppose, but if Lego listens to how people complain about having named characters in battle packs I doubt it will happen. Plus, the only battle packs we’ve ever gotten like that was 75167.
@MegaBlocks the Rule of Two states that there are only two actual Sith at any given time. They can have various Force-sensitive minions as needed. I honestly see it as somewhat practical: there’s a pool of potential apprentices in the event that the Sith Master is overthrown or the Sith Apprentices dies attempting to kill their master. Whoever lives then doesn’t have to hunt down a new apprentice and spend a decade or so training them before they’re useful.
@Emmafofemma said:
"I always suspected Barriss was the second sister first before she left the inquisitorious "
Sorry to double comment, but I missed this. I find it doubtful that Barriss was ever the Second Sister, since she was recruited by the Fourth Sister. Unless it’s possible for Inquisitors to be moved down the rankings as opposed to just being killed when they fail spectacularly or repeatedly.
@SearchlightRG said:
" @Emmafofemma said:
"I always suspected Barriss was the second sister first before she left the inquisitorious "
Sorry to double comment, but I missed this. I find it doubtful that Barriss was ever the Second Sister, since she was recruited by the Fourth Sister. Unless it’s possible for Inquisitors to be moved down the rankings as opposed to just being killed when they fail spectacularly or repeatedly."
The numbering does not necessarily indicate rank. It could do, but in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, the Fifth Brother seems to think he is next in line to become the Grand Inquisitor above the Third and Fourth Sisters, both of whom are in the room with him. He could just be posturing though, admittedly.
Perhaps more compelling is that the numbering does not reflect when characters actually became Inquisitors and one would assume longer-serving Inquisitors would hold a higher rank. Trilla Suduri is the Second Sister, but is a former Jedi captured a short while after Order 66 and tortured to become an Inquistor. The Thirteenth Sister, by contrast, was recruited during Order 66, so must have been among the earliest Inquisitors.
Personally, I think the numbering is deliberately misleading. In-universe, it creates doubt as to the size of the Inquisitorius and out-of-universe it allows the writers to add new Inquisitors pretty much whenever they like.
@Somnium said:
"They're much cooler than the garbage Knights of Ren. An Inquisitor battle pack could cover the most famous. "
Teletubbies are cooler than the Knights of Ren. But not by much.
@Rimefang said:
"Jedi Temple or Fortress Inquisitorius, neither is likely to get a set. Lego will remake certain sets or ships over and over, but some material they seem to skip forever."
I think Fortress Inquisitorius is at least somewhat plausible, given that we’ve already seen a Castle Vader set.
@CapnRex101 you make good points. I guess Rebels got me into the habit of thinking that lower number equals higher ranking. Fifth certainly seemed to consider Seventh beneath him, even if he did let her take the lead on occasion.
@MonsterFighter said:
"Barriss Offee, the ? Sister
Irish?"
The barista sister.
@Brickodillo said:
" @MonsterFighter said:
"Barriss Offee, the ? Sister
Irish?"
The barista sister. "
The Barrister?
@PurpleDave said:
" @Brickodillo said:
" @MonsterFighter said:
"Barriss Offee, the ? Sister
Irish?"
The barista sister. "
The Barrister?"
John Warosa?
@CapnRex101 said:
" @SearchlightRG said:
" @Emmafofemma said:
"I always suspected Barriss was the second sister first before she left the inquisitorious "
Sorry to double comment, but I missed this. I find it doubtful that Barriss was ever the Second Sister, since she was recruited by the Fourth Sister. Unless it’s possible for Inquisitors to be moved down the rankings as opposed to just being killed when they fail spectacularly or repeatedly."
The numbering does not necessarily indicate rank. It could do, but in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, the Fifth Brother seems to think he is next in line to become the Grand Inquisitor above the Third and Fourth Sisters, both of whom are in the room with him. He could just be posturing though, admittedly.
Perhaps more compelling is that the numbering does not reflect when characters actually became Inquisitors and one would assume longer-serving Inquisitors would hold a higher rank. Trilla Suduri is the Second Sister, but is a former Jedi captured a short while after Order 66 and tortured to become an Inquistor. The Thirteenth Sister, by contrast, was recruited during Order 66, so must have been among the earliest Inquisitors.
Personally, I think the numbering is deliberately misleading. In-universe, it creates doubt as to the size of the Inquisitorius and out-of-universe it allows the writers to add new Inquisitors pretty much whenever they like."
Does anyone outside the empire know the ranking of the inquisitors? If they are just posturing with random numbers to confuse, they’d need to announce it to sew doubt, and I don’t recall them ever doing so irrc.
@Emmfofemma that is an excellent point! I can’t recall any instances in which the individual Inquisitors ever disclosed their ranks to outsiders, unless there’s some moments I’m forgetting from Fallen Order. Even other Imperials typically just address them as “Inquisitor” if they have to talk to them. As for anyone else, they’re typically called inquisitors by anyone who knows what they are, and by the slang term “Redblades” by those who don’t. Unless, of course, an Inquisitor happens to run into someone who is actually aware of their old identity as a Jedi.
The Inquisitors are a good example of having more force users in the Star Wars universe without them being Jedi or Sith. Although many of them seem to be fallen Jedi. If my memory serves me right a fallen Jedi doesn't mean this individual becomes a Sith.
Also I read once that a apprentice Sith could also already have recruited an apprentice for in case they decide to overhtrow the Sith master. so I don't think that an Inquisitor becomes a Sith apprentince. They would probably find them somewhere else.
But they make cool minifigs for the collection so Lego should make more sets around these figures.
@Emmafofemma said:
" @CapnRex101 said:
" @SearchlightRG said:
" @Emmafofemma said:
"I always suspected Barriss was the second sister first before she left the inquisitorious "
Sorry to double comment, but I missed this. I find it doubtful that Barriss was ever the Second Sister, since she was recruited by the Fourth Sister. Unless it’s possible for Inquisitors to be moved down the rankings as opposed to just being killed when they fail spectacularly or repeatedly."
The numbering does not necessarily indicate rank. It could do, but in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, the Fifth Brother seems to think he is next in line to become the Grand Inquisitor above the Third and Fourth Sisters, both of whom are in the room with him. He could just be posturing though, admittedly.
Perhaps more compelling is that the numbering does not reflect when characters actually became Inquisitors and one would assume longer-serving Inquisitors would hold a higher rank. Trilla Suduri is the Second Sister, but is a former Jedi captured a short while after Order 66 and tortured to become an Inquistor. The Thirteenth Sister, by contrast, was recruited during Order 66, so must have been among the earliest Inquisitors.
Personally, I think the numbering is deliberately misleading. In-universe, it creates doubt as to the size of the Inquisitorius and out-of-universe it allows the writers to add new Inquisitors pretty much whenever they like."
Does anyone outside the empire know the ranking of the inquisitors? If they are just posturing with random numbers to confuse, they’d need to announce it to sew doubt, and I don’t recall them ever doing so irrc."
Inquisitors often address one another by their numbers, including in the presence of Ezra, Kanan and others in Star Wars Rebels. Cal Kestis even knows the real name of the Ninth Sister in Jedi: Survivor, so I assume those who regularly encounter Inquisitors could gather some intelligence about them.
However, I am not suggesting they are consciously seeking to confuse the remaining Jedi by throwing out numbers with no pattern, only that the numbered system could be deliberately random to hide exactly how many Inquisitors there are, even from the other Inquisitors.
@CapnRex101 said:
" @Emmafofemma said:
" @CapnRex101 said:
" @SearchlightRG said:
" @Emmafofemma said:
"I always suspected Barriss was the second sister first before she left the inquisitorious "
Sorry to double comment, but I missed this. I find it doubtful that Barriss was ever the Second Sister, since she was recruited by the Fourth Sister. Unless it’s possible for Inquisitors to be moved down the rankings as opposed to just being killed when they fail spectacularly or repeatedly."
The numbering does not necessarily indicate rank. It could do, but in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, the Fifth Brother seems to think he is next in line to become the Grand Inquisitor above the Third and Fourth Sisters, both of whom are in the room with him. He could just be posturing though, admittedly.
Perhaps more compelling is that the numbering does not reflect when characters actually became Inquisitors and one would assume longer-serving Inquisitors would hold a higher rank. Trilla Suduri is the Second Sister, but is a former Jedi captured a short while after Order 66 and tortured to become an Inquistor. The Thirteenth Sister, by contrast, was recruited during Order 66, so must have been among the earliest Inquisitors.
Personally, I think the numbering is deliberately misleading. In-universe, it creates doubt as to the size of the Inquisitorius and out-of-universe it allows the writers to add new Inquisitors pretty much whenever they like."
Does anyone outside the empire know the ranking of the inquisitors? If they are just posturing with random numbers to confuse, they’d need to announce it to sew doubt, and I don’t recall them ever doing so irrc."
Inquisitors often address one another by their numbers, including in the presence of Ezra, Kanan and others in Star Wars Rebels. Cal Kestis even knows the real name of the Ninth Sister in Jedi: Survivor, so I assume those who regularly encounter Inquisitors could gather some intelligence about them.
However, I am not suggesting they are consciously seeking to confuse the remaining Jedi by throwing out numbers with no pattern, only that the numbered system could be deliberately random to hide exactly how many Inquisitors there are, even from the other Inquisitors."
Huh...I didn't remember any instances like that in Rebels, though I'll admit it's been a while since I've watched any of the series. The only clear instance I remember of designations coming up was in "The Future of the Force", where-as I recall-Fifth and Seventh address each other by designation. I don't recall anyone being within earshot of them at the time. As for Cal and the Ninth Sister, I believe there was something in Fallen Order where he-or the player at least-learned what her name was. Not sure what his canonical source would have been, but it could easily have been Cere Junda.
@SearchlightRG said:
" @CapnRex101 said:
" @Emmafofemma said:
" @CapnRex101 said:
" @SearchlightRG said:
" @Emmafofemma said:
"I always suspected Barriss was the second sister first before she left the inquisitorious "
Sorry to double comment, but I missed this. I find it doubtful that Barriss was ever the Second Sister, since she was recruited by the Fourth Sister. Unless it’s possible for Inquisitors to be moved down the rankings as opposed to just being killed when they fail spectacularly or repeatedly."
The numbering does not necessarily indicate rank. It could do, but in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, the Fifth Brother seems to think he is next in line to become the Grand Inquisitor above the Third and Fourth Sisters, both of whom are in the room with him. He could just be posturing though, admittedly.
Perhaps more compelling is that the numbering does not reflect when characters actually became Inquisitors and one would assume longer-serving Inquisitors would hold a higher rank. Trilla Suduri is the Second Sister, but is a former Jedi captured a short while after Order 66 and tortured to become an Inquistor. The Thirteenth Sister, by contrast, was recruited during Order 66, so must have been among the earliest Inquisitors.
Personally, I think the numbering is deliberately misleading. In-universe, it creates doubt as to the size of the Inquisitorius and out-of-universe it allows the writers to add new Inquisitors pretty much whenever they like."
Does anyone outside the empire know the ranking of the inquisitors? If they are just posturing with random numbers to confuse, they’d need to announce it to sew doubt, and I don’t recall them ever doing so irrc."
Inquisitors often address one another by their numbers, including in the presence of Ezra, Kanan and others in Star Wars Rebels. Cal Kestis even knows the real name of the Ninth Sister in Jedi: Survivor, so I assume those who regularly encounter Inquisitors could gather some intelligence about them.
However, I am not suggesting they are consciously seeking to confuse the remaining Jedi by throwing out numbers with no pattern, only that the numbered system could be deliberately random to hide exactly how many Inquisitors there are, even from the other Inquisitors."
Huh...I didn't remember any instances like that in Rebels, though I'll admit it's been a while since I've watched any of the series. The only clear instance I remember of designations coming up was in "The Future of the Force", where-as I recall-Fifth and Seventh address each other by designation. I don't recall anyone being within earshot of them at the time."
I'm the same way. I've seen seasons 1 and 2 numerous times, and the instance you referred to is the only time I remember their names being mentioned (besides the credits, of course).
@SearchlightRG said:
" @CapnRex101 said:
"Inquisitors often address one another by their numbers, including in the presence of Ezra, Kanan and others in Star Wars Rebels. Cal Kestis even knows the real name of the Ninth Sister in Jedi: Survivor, so I assume those who regularly encounter Inquisitors could gather some intelligence about them.
However, I am not suggesting they are consciously seeking to confuse the remaining Jedi by throwing out numbers with no pattern, only that the numbered system could be deliberately random to hide exactly how many Inquisitors there are, even from the other Inquisitors."
Huh...I didn't remember any instances like that in Rebels, though I'll admit it's been a while since I've watched any of the series. The only clear instance I remember of designations coming up was in "The Future of the Force", where-as I recall-Fifth and Seventh address each other by designation. I don't recall anyone being within earshot of them at the time. As for Cal and the Ninth Sister, I believe there was something in Fallen Order where he-or the player at least-learned what her name was. Not sure what his canonical source would have been, but it could easily have been Cere Junda."
I was thinking that instance of the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother calling each other by name was in Always Two There Are, after they capture Ezra on the medical station, but you are correct. Even so, we know they encountered the Spectre Cell multiple times offscreen, so their numbers could easily be known to Kanan and the others.
Regardless, my point is that if a Jedi was to learn an Inquisitor's designation, it tells them basically nothing. I am not suggesting the Inquisitors themselves are deliberately sowing misinformation, only that whomever created the numbered designations could have intended for it to obfuscate their true numbers.
Thinking about it, it might be even more important to conceal exactly how many Inquisitors there are from the Inquisitors themselves. The last thing Darth Vader or the Emperor want are their subordinates really working together and becoming a potential threat, which could happen if they knew the full details of their organisation.
What about the legendary Darth Doofus?
@CapnRex101 that is an interesting thought, and lines up with the Legends concept of the Emperor’s Hands not knowing that there were several of them.
I think I’ve heard or seen instances where the creators have implied that Sidious and Vader deliberately sow dissension among the Inquisitors. They’re too busy fighting among themselves to pose any serious threat, even if they had the skill to try taking down their Sith masters.