Which retired set should be re-released next? Results...

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The recent announcement of 10268 Vestas Wind Turbine could suggest that LEGO will continue to re-release popular sets from the past during the next several years. We therefore invited Brickset readers to submit nominations for retired sets which should return and compiled the frequent suggestions in a poll.

More than 7000 votes have been cast and we are now ready to reveal the results of our latest poll...

10210 Imperial Flagship is the winner! These results raise a few interesting questions and considerations.


Why did 10210 Imperial Flagship win?

10210 Imperial Flagship was released in 2010 and is the largest traditional full-rigged ship that LEGO has ever produced. Pirate-themed sets have been popular for almost thirty years so it is unsurprising that many fans would like 10210 Imperial Flagship to return, particularly given the anticipation which preceded last year's unveiling of 71042 Silent Mary.

In fact, there was some disappointment when it became apparent that the Silent Mary was a ghost ship rather than a conventional sailing vessel, suggesting that there is considerable demand for such a model to be released. Furthermore, I think 10210 Imperial Flagship looks marvellous, even by the high standards of LEGO products today. A direct re-release could therefore prove very popular.

Could 10210 Imperial Flagship be re-released without an accompanying Pirates theme?

Several different incarnations of the Pirates theme have been released since 1989, the latest of which appeared in 2015. It is possible that Pirates will return in the future, although LEGO has focused more upon modern original themes such as NINJAGO or Friends than Pirates and Castle in recent years. A re-release of 10210 Imperial Flagship may therefore not be accompanied by an entire wave of Pirates sets.

However, this would not necessarily be important in my opinion. 71042 Silent Mary was produced as an independent Pirates of the Caribbean set, intended primarily for display. Perhaps a re-released version of 10210 Imperial Flagship would occupy a similar position in the market.

Why did 10194 Emerald Night rank so highly?

10194 Emerald Night finished just 26 votes behind 10210 Imperial Flagship so there is clearly a great deal of demand for this popular train to return. I think most adults would agree that LEGO Trains have been relatively disappointing in recent years, lacking the impressive detail which is offered by the likes of 10194 Emerald Night or 10233 Horizon Express.

In addition, a sealed copy of 10194 Emerald Night is currently worth about £380 or $500 so acquiring this set on the secondary market is not a viable option for many people. A re-released version of this set therefore has the potential to be incredibly appealing.


Are you surprised by these results and have you identified any points of discussion based upon them? Let us know in the comments.

Many thanks for your participation in this poll!

 

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53 comments on this article

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By in United States,

I think that a pirate ship being number one for a release is silly, just make another giant pirate ship, no need for a direct release. I have the awesome NinjaGo Movie ship which I'm more than happy with.

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By in United Kingdom,

I would love for the Emerald Night to be rereleased, although my Dad prefers Locomotives, I think he'd appreciate the detail

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By in Ireland,

Both are wonderful choices, and I'd be delighted to see either return.

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By in United States,

I voted Emerald Night. I'm one of those with it on my wish list and I never expect to own it unless it's re-released. It's one of a very few sets tempting me to the dark side... But if there's even a hint of a re-release, I can be patient.

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By in United Kingdom,

Sales of the Taj Mahal re-release should give LEGO a reasonable idea of whether it's worth their while to give us more re-releases.

That having been said, I'd much rather that LEGO focused on releasing new designs, e.g. a new creator expert train, rather than just rehashing old ones given the availability of new parts, colours etc.

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By in United Kingdom,

They should do a special edition Emerald Night with an extra carriage, new and updated minifigures, some track and a motor.

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By in United States,

If Medieval Market Village came out again it would only be about $30 cheaper than it sells for now. Doesn't seem like that would be the ideal re-release even though I love the set.

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By in United States,

Although the Imperial Flagship is neat in of itself, it seems lacks the iconic details to set it apart from other such ships, save its impressive size. I believe iconic structures should be more in the line for re-released items or exclusive items such as the Vestas Turbine.

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By in United States,

I can see several of these being re-released, the emerald night in particular. But I don’t see why so many like the imperial flagship above everything else. As an owner of this I can say it’s not even that good IMO. It’s not even very detailed compared to other ships. And would it even be released as part of the creator expert line? IMO destiny’s bounty from TLNM is the best one to date.

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By in United States,

Didn't vote in the poll but the Emerald Night is definitely my favorite of the options.

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By in United States,

Even though LEGO probably wouldn’t do this, I would love it if they rereleased some sdcc Minifigures because I need the symbiote Spider-Man Minifigure

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By in United States,

I voted for for flagship, If they do this one It will sell, maybe it could give them an ideal alot of people are interested make more themed sets again boats more newer ones. 75% of the other boats are all old and not that great , besides the pirate carribean theam

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By in Australia,

Voted for Market Street lol, guess I'm with the un-percent!! Mostly I would like to see some of the early modular buildings re-released to get them because after market is never going to happen at those prices for me and also because I think it would be a good idea for Lego to not only give those of us without the early sets a chance to get them, but it would give Lego a chance to update them with new parts/building techniques and to give them fitted out interiors, which the first 3 or 4 didn't have. A revised model would look slightly different enough that I'm sure even people with the originals would still want them to expand their modular building street or town layout. The modular buildings seem like a very popular theme (given the amount of original ones on Lego Ideas) so I could imagine that Lego could do a re-release even if they have a new set come out that same year. My wallet will not like two a year but the rest of me would!! lol :)

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By in United States,

I was hoping for the imperial flagship but didn't think it would have the most votes. I am than very pleased.

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By in United States,

I'd be on board for ALL of the top five. Bring it!

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By in United States,

WTH? Didn't expect these results at all! Thought a modular would be in the top 3!

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By in United States,

Haunted House and Medieval Market Village ranked high, not a fan of the sets in this poll but I appreciate it nonetheless.

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By in United States,

I would buy a re-release of the Haunted House in a heartbeat. Such an iconic bit of spooky scenery.

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By in Canada,

Be neat if an updated Flagship got a City-style yachting update. I don’t really like brown heavy boats unless it’s a small, a raft, or a shipwreck. Having several large fabric sails would be nice, rather than some near dozen smaller sails.

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By in United States,

There should probably have been only one option for the modular because between the Cafe Corner and Green Grocer, I think a classic modular would be the most popular re-release.

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By in United Kingdom,

Would be intersted to see how for HHOuse was behind, given it was 1% lower than 2nd place and that was only 26 votesbehind

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By in {Unknown country},

at least there are NO star wars sets haha.. maybe driven by the ridiculous price of the UCS falcon.

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By in United Kingdom,

Personally, I'd rather see more original ideas. If Lego create modern products on the same subject matter, without the limitations of the piece palette available at original release, then we could get a better set, right?

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By in United Kingdom,

I voted for Haunted House, but otherwise, that's about the order in which the others appeal to me. I do hope we get to see more of these coming back. The sheer volume of sets released in recent years suggests that we could have one or two big re-releases a year without it getting in the way of good new stuff.

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By in Czech Republic,

@ DrDaveWatford .. I think that a quite paying off approach for TLG could be to offer "selected" retired sets as some kind do-it-on -your own: .. meaning.. we will send you all the bricks and parts that are needed to build the set (if still available).. maybe no stickers - BUT no box, no printed MANUAL.. you can download that as PDF from the web.. and we will charge something xtra. maybe 50 % more?

imagine! that would completely ruin the Bricklink and such market.. Win WIN appoach for everyone..

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By in Canada,

I can't say it enough and I was denied the right to vote. I want the Star Wars Rebel Blockade Runner!

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By in Australia,

I voted for the Emerald Night and pleased that it got so high even if it wasn't first. However I'd much prefer an updated Emerald Night due to new parts, but if it is a direct re-release then I'd still most likely buy it first day since it is an amazing set and one of the best if not the best Lego train.

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By in United States,

@David1985: Agreed! Even if many Pirates fans preferred Imperial Flagship's very classic look, I think sets like Metalbeard's Sea Cow, Silent Mary, and Destiny's Bounty have shown just how far standards of detail and complexity have advanced for ships that size in the past decade. By today's standards, a lot of things about Imperial Flagship are very basic and dated. I kind of wonder whether it would have merited such a high target age range even by the design standards of that time if not for its well-documented fragility.

As much hate as the 2015 Pirates sets got for their small size, even they demonstrated considerable advancement over the previous non-licensed Pirates sets. I think this was most clearly demonstrated with #70411-1 vs its predecessor #6241-1 . The new set had more or less the same cost, weight, and target age range, and had the same number of minifigures, animals, and spring-loaded cannons. Yet it had nearly 40 more pieces, allowing for more detailed landscaping with less reliance on a specialized prefab base. It also brought back the iconic brick-built skull gate motif from Pirates sets of the 90s instead of a prefab "4 Juniors" skull element, and while still not too elaborate, its palm tree was a big step up from the pitiful ones from its 2009 counterpart.

@1947andallthat: I mostly agree, but with the slight caveat that I don't think re-releases have a meaningful tendency to result in any fewer original ideas, since they don't tend to have anywhere near as time-consuming or resource-intensive a development process as other new sets. Most of the time they don't require the same number of new molds, new recolors, or new graphic designs, nor do they have to go through the whole design process from idea to many rounds of sketch models to final product.

For reference, there were as many or more re-released D2C sets last year than the years leading up to it or since (depending on whether you count the UCS Millennium Falcon as a re-release with its extensive updates), but the overall number of D2C sets that year was at an all-time high. Not to mention, we've been seeing increasing numbers of non-D2C sets with 12+ or higher target age ranges in themes like Architecture, Ideas, Technic, and The LEGO Ninjago Movie, like #21041-1 , #21042-1 , #21311-1 , #21313-1 , #21315-1 , #42083-1 , and #70657-1 . So I think we can speculate about future re-releases without worrying about designers prioritizing them over actual new stuff.

@crayxmp: I think there'd be some pretty major drawbacks with that approach. For one thing, let's not forget what happened with the LEGO Legends sets of the early 2000s. Because they were sets from years ago, the builds often failed to meet current standards, disappointing even buyers who had long dreamed of owning them and hadn't realized their weaknesses. Because changes were sometimes necessary to account for retired parts, some buyers felt that lack of authenticity diminished their value. The earlier sets saved money on boxes by printing the box art in black and white, but even something as basic as that diminished the experience of the customer… not providing paper instructions or boxes at all would be even worse. And of course, as re-releases, many of the people with the most nostalgia for them already owned them.

I also suspect you are overestimating the amount of sets that COULD be built with parts that LEGO is still producing or still has spare in their warehouses. Even certain colors of basic parts can be taken out of production from year to year depending on what that year's sets need.

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By in United States,

Both were good choices, but I feel best would be simple--whatever Lepin's faking. Get rid of the market for it by rereleasing the set.

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By in United States,

Beggers can’t be choosers and seeing how the Haunted House is the only set on this list that I have I would take a rerelease of any of them. But I did vote for the cafe just because I’ve transisted from pirates/castle to more of the city type builds since Pirates 2015 was the last of those to be released. A release of the Flagship would get me right back into Pirates for sure. Couldn’t ever afford it during its run.

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By in Australia,

Part of me is surprised the Eiffel Tower isn’t higher given it’s after market price though a lot of me isn’t.
Eiffel Tower doesn’t need a re-release, it needs a redesign and significant improvement to actually look more like the Eiffel Tower.
That surely is the case with many of these other sets as well.
The Emerald Night by comparison holds up very well and a re-release makes sense.

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By in United States,

I love my 10210 Imperial Flagship, still in a sealed box. I would love to build it but my child is still too small yet. he has destroyed every set I have build to date. It's too expensive to and too painful to let him destroy this one.. I need a second one I can build..

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By in Canada,

I'm glad none of the modulars won the poll: while I would love to have the chance to get them, I assume the same thing would happen as happened with the Winter Toy Shop rerelease; we'd get the rerelease INSTEAD of a new modular for the year, and that's no fun. I'd always take a new set over one we've already seen. Stuff like the Imperial Flagship and Emerald Night wouldn't take the place of a potential new one, though, so they're fine by me!

Another thing to think about when wanting rereleases is the lack of parts available; in the Cafe Corner for example there are a lot of parts where the parts have updated molds that wouldn't work with the set (1x8x2 arch) or just straight up don't exist anymore (the 1x4x5 doors)

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By in United States,

The simple answer to the question of "Why was X a surprise winner?" is nearly always the same. It's because two or more popular things split the votes and allowed the third or fourth place to win. For example in X vs Y or X vs Z, Y and Z win. But in X vs Y vs Z, X wins because Y and Z split the vote. I think the poll may have been flawed. One suggestion would be to vote for your top three and than vote of your number one. I think this might yield a different result and maybe be more accurate.

However I don't really care that much about the outcome. Given that I already have all of the sets that were on this list and am unlikely to buy a re-release. I might buy an updated version but would prefer a new design.

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By in Australia,

Imperial Flagship? Really?! While the result is extremely surprising I would be very happy for a re-release and/or a comeback of pirates/historical again.

Sadly we don't have any pirates sets anymore but in the past and future we need more naval ships! Or some merchant ships. It should always be huge naval warships and small pirate vessels not a 'pirate flagship' being assaulted by a naval rowboat.

Emerald Night is an almost must re-release and it was no surprise its 2nd, although I personally would have thought EN would be first and IF would be 3rd or 4th.

Cafe Corner in 4th is almost even more surprising then IF in 1st. There are so many AFOLs saying how due to the lacking interior and quite plain/boring exterior when compared to every other modular there would be no point re-releasing it. For me, GG is drastically better of a build, and that's only considering modulars for a re-release. MMV and Santa Fe Super Chief would be so much more deserving of a re-release then CC.

Speaking of MMV, it would be cool if they did something like that old Town set with the castle in it and fish and chip shop. Same buildings but in a 'modern' (say early 20th century like modulars) with some knights/peasants who are doing a reenactment.

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By in Germany,

I just bought the Taj Mahal re-release on sale as I would never have thought I would get another chance before TLG announced it.

With the Haunted House and Emerald Night I got impatient a year ago and hence bought the Lepin clones. But funny thing, if TLG re-released those sets, I would buy those too, just to be able to add the original to my collection, even though the Lepin clones look perfectly identical in the display cabinet.

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By in United Kingdom,

By yjcha2 in Australia, 21 Oct 2018 23:04 at least there are NO star wars sets haha.. maybe driven by the ridiculous price of the UCS falcon.
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Star Wars sets were excluded from the poll. It would have been a surprise if one had won after their exclusion.

I'm not at all surprised at the IF winning, but then it wouldn't have surprised me if EN had beaten it. Both are popular sets from the past.

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By in Australia,

TLG should consider a mini Emerald Night - like it’s ‘little brother’. Like sets 7710 or 7810.
- maybe 60% of the length.
- no tender
- 1 carriage
Then:
- people can buy 2, to source the parts to build one EN
- more carriages are available.
- those selling ‘original’ 10194 don’t loose value in their sets.
- a new set is available, to one day be a classic in its own right.

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By in Denmark,

"imagine! that would completely ruin the Bricklink and such market.. Win WIN appoach for everyone.."

I suggest you check the logic of the above statement.

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By in United Kingdom,

How about re-issuing the Emerald Night in dark red?

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By in United Kingdom,

An Imperial Flagship re-release does not make sense. An update could make a much larger difference than it would with the Taj Mahal.

Instead, give me a larger and more detailed true Pirate Ship, with two cannon decks (instead of the one IS has), actual ropes and a load of minifigs and detail. 4-5000 pieces. I don't care if it would cost $400, I would buy it on day one. I want a magnificent gigantic ship, a true monster.

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By in United States,

@Joefish Maybe name it Garnet Sunset? Ruby Sunrise? :-)

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By in Canada,

Not surprised to see the modular series not in the top three. I think the market is a bit saturated on this type of construction. Only collectors of the full series would really want these.

Emerald Night though was such a beautiful design. Maybe the most LEGO beautiful train ever. Deserves a re-release.

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By in United States,

Albeit I'm happy - I am also a bit surprised that Imperial Flagship landed at the top of this poll. Maybe there are more fans than let on to everyone? I don't think it would need to be released with other Pirate sets as we have seen with Silent Mary, the standalone works fabulously. I would however like to see a rerelease of the Green Grocer, missed out the first time!

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By in Germany,

Anyone wondered why there are only 10xxx sets in the top ten? No classic town or space or Model Team or any other 4-digit set, nor any Indiana Jones, Lord of the Rings/Hobbit, modern castle or city or 3xxxx Creator sets...

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By in United States,

I think a re-release of the Death Star 2 would be a cool idea.

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By in United Kingdom,

Nah, don’t re-release Imperial Flagship or Emerald Night,
I bought them both the first time round!
Give us a NEW ship and a NEW expert train.

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By in United States,

As usual, I was in the minority voting for the last place set... lol

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By in United Kingdom,

By ricci229 in Germany, 22 Oct 2018 Anyone wondered why there are only 10xxx sets in the top ten? No classic town or space or Model Team or any other 4-digit set, nor any Indiana Jones, Lord of the Rings/Hobbit, modern castle or city or 3xxxx Creator sets...

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I think it is fairly obvious why. The "rules" of the submissions were quite clear:

"When submitting your suggestion, please bear in mind that both 10256 Taj Mahal and 10268 Vestas Wind Turbine have been released as part of the Creator Expert theme. Future sets will probably be categorised similarly, excluding certain themes from consideration."

Hardly anything that you mention would fit into Creator Expert, so their non-appearance in the poll is understandable.

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By in United Kingdom,

Does LEGO only do re-releases when they realise they have too much production capacity, and too few original designers?

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By in United States,

NEW TRAIN PLEASE

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By in United States,

Haunted House.

Honestly though I like to see any re-release, just to stick it to resellers who have been sitting on dozens of such sets for a decade.

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By in Australia,

How about re-release a complete theme, like Trains. Have sets with individual rolling stock. That could be an ongoing theme rather than the yearly "passenger" or "cargo" line.

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