Brickset bouts: first round results

Wow! I have a set in each one of these quarter-finals. I'll vote my bias :)

I was on the fence between the Rollercoaster and Hogwarts as I don't own either... In the end I chose the latter, as it is aesthetically more pleasing to me. Sorry Rollercoaster fans! ;-)

Hey, that's not fair @Huw ! Why don't all the advocates get a chance to win something but only those who advocate from round two onwards? If I had known that I would have waited to volunteer for later.

At least I won't have to feel guilty if "my" Saturn V loses against the MF (which I still hope it won't as it is so much better a set than that "hunk of junk" - no matter how fast that may be...)

@AustinPowers said:
"Hey, that's not fair! Why don't all the advocates get a chance to win something but only those who advocate from round two onwards? If I had known that I would have waited to volunteer for later. "

My interpretation of what Huw said is ALL rounds (4 in total) so Yes, you'll be included.

Hashtag: Parisian for President, anyone?

Remarkably I am 8 out of 8 so far.

This time 3/4 of the more expensive sets won. (The first four bouts the cheaper set won all four times).

So again, only 1 of the sets (Parisian restaurant) I voted for got through and is facing the only other set I voted for from the first batch (MMV). Its going to be a tough one. Overall, its a very difficult quarterfinal line-up - there are so many incredible sets!

Ouch!!!! Ninjago City vs. An unexpected Gathering. Those are my two favorite sets. Unexpected Gathering though would get my vote.

I voted 4 out of 4. Hope that continues on to the quarterfinals. The only difficult one for me to pick will be the first one as I voted for both.

Time to change that first image to just include sets that are actually still in the game?

I'd love to advocate for a fight. Specifically Ninjago City vs An unexpected gathering. The 'get in touch' link doesn't seem to load up anything aside from the homepage. Thanks! (=

I’m surprised that all of the ones I voted for won, this contest is getting fun

Well I’m volunteering to advocate for Unexpected Gathering. I don’t care if it’s the smallest set left standing, it does more with so little that it should easily be the winner.

The Falcon is something that could be easily dropped so I dunno if Hogwarts or Falcon will win that bout

I got 0 out 4 first time and 4 out of 4 now, I feel better lol. After the first round I really expected MF would be out. While it's not one of my favourites, it would have been a shame. Wonder if roller coaster should still get a chance, though it got the least votes of the round.

Mediaval Market Place, Ninjago City, Old Fishing Store, UCS Millenium Falcon. I thought it was the five best sets?

Thank you to the last person who voted for Hogwarts!
My predictions:
The first round is definitely going to the restaurant.
The second round will be Ninjago unless the small set advocates pull through.
The third round will be probably be Hogwarts. It barely beat the Roller Coaster but comparing it to the Fishing Store is a more fair contest.
The fourth round is a toss-up. Star Wars fans vs. everyone else.

Wow I'm 8 for 8 so far in voting for the winners! Perhaps I should by a lottery ticket...

Interesting to see how the total votes for each round vary by so much.

The quarter 1 is promises to be interesting.
Myself I like both, but will vote for the Medieval Market Village.
This small market place, a lot of details, a few animals, 8 minifigures and two nice buildings.
Only the 7189 Mill Village Raid is better.

The other ones are still David and Goliath, nice against huge.

I hope that the ones with the highest count of pieces will not win.

@biffuz said:
", while the Ninjago City, as detailed as it may be...."

When I built the TNC I really found it was a really fun build per item. Something I hadn't experienced in a long time. That was the reason for me to vote here.

Sad that the Emerald Night lost out, to me it's the more creative, original and affordable of the two (not to mention it brought me back to the Trains theme). I wonder if the current insane prices (2/3 of the Falcon!) has something to say, making it just as out-of-reach to the average collector as the MF.

I also find it strange that you want *more* trash talk this time, given how you otherwise close the comments at the drop of a hat. Yes, I'm disappointed we aren't allowed to comment on the Osprey affair, to me the discussion seemed reasonably civil (even if I may have missed a few deleted posts) - again a few people who steps over the line are allowed to ruin everything for the rest of us.

Just want to say great idea/execution with this so far. What a shame the Emerald Night never had a chance against that monster of a set..

Judging by vote counts, feels like MF is going to be the winner in the end, maybe Ninjago city and Medieval village as runners up...

I personally am not the a fan of Ninjago City, but others are, and An Unexpected Gathering was starting to be a great underdog story. Now I don't see how it'll win.

What happened to the posting for the results from the first 4? I don't see that article listed now. I was curious as to how many votes were cast for each of those sets, compared to votes for yesterday's battle.
The Roller Coaster losing by 1 vote, or the Hogwarts Castle winning by 1 vote, either way you look at it, goes to show that every vote does count. But it also shows equal love for both sets. Which is true for myself, having to pick one over the other was a hard choice.

@andylego99 said:
"Judging by vote counts, feels like MF is going to be the winner in the end, maybe Ninjago city and Medieval village as runners up..."

Just because people voted for MF when paired with Emerald Night is no guarantee that they will still vote for it when it goes up against a different set.

But it's clear that the UCS MF is the big aspirational set for Star Wars fans. (Hogwart's being a big aspriational set for the HP crowd, but you get the sense that on here at least the Star Wars fans outnumber the HP).

I got all of the ones I voted for right this time!

I hope the winner is one of the modular buildings. :) However, I won't be surprised the winner is MF. Hahaha!

Honestly I haven't really been following this too well, but I'm extremely surprised that Ninjago City beat the Pirates set. With all the details and throwbacks to the classic pirate themes in Barracuda Bay it's impossible for me to believe it couldn't have been anything but a complete shoe-in.

Emerald Night put up more of a fight than I thought it would, even up against ‘Goliath’...

The bottom half of the bracket is much stronger than the top half. The bottom four sets really should be the semi-finalists.

Likely Falcon or Hogwarts for me as best set. A bit unfair as they are the largest sets.

Very surprised that the Death Star 10188 but I Guess the 75189 took some votes away from it. It this was done for the first 10 years I am sure it would have won hands down. I still think it is the best “traditional” lego set as it has play value, not just display value like Hogwarts (which is proudly on display in my house).

As for Ninjago City that is near the top of my list for worst set this millennium.

The most interesting thing from yesterday IMO is how the modular bout and the Hogwarts/Rollercoaster match up had 1,000 fewer votes than the other two. I wonder if people couldn't decide or didn't care enough to vote in those matchups?

I think the Falcon is the favorite to win it all at this point with Ninjago City right behind based on total votes cast. The Hogwarts/Fishing store looks to be the most interesting match up of this round.

Barracuda Bay lost, sad. That one's probably my all-time favorite set. Or in the very least, my favorite set I've gotten in quite a long while.

Oh well. This time all of the ones I voted for won! Which is... the exact opposite to the first half.

...and both times, there was one bout that I simply sat out because I didn't have a solid enough opinion either way to vote. If the Star Wars sets had been pitted against other contestants, one way or another my decision would have been clear; but against MMV and EN, I couldn't quite justify voting either for or against, no matter which way I looked at it.

I still predict Saturn V for ultimate winner. It wouldn't be my personal choice, and I'm not going to vote for it myself; but I see so much love for it here on Brickset that I seriously can't imagine any other outcome at this point. We'll see if I'm surprised or not xD

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@kwickbrick said:
"What happened to the posting for the results from the first 4? I don't see that article listed now. I was curious as to how many votes were cast for each of those sets, compared to votes for yesterday's battle. "
Here: https://brickset.com/article/52693/brickset-bouts-the-results-so-far ^^

@Dentyyyyy said:
"I thought the weakest part of this fun contest was where advocates would take time to explain why the opposing set SHOULDN'T win. Weird to see this encouraged!"

Yeah, that was wack. I’m glad the Millennium Falcon won after all the shenanigans.

My thoughts...

1st place: Parisian Restaurant
2nd place: Hogwarts Castle
3rd place: Ninjago City
4th place: Millennium Falcon
5th place: Saturn V
6th place: Medieval Market Village

Why did NINJAGO city have to win? I Believe that Pirates of Barracuda Bay is a much better set. True, the NINJAGO city has more play ability but Pirates of Barracuda Bay has two builds. NINJAGO city doesn't.

That's just my opinion though.

Emerald night, you were a great set but I don't think there was any doubt. And to the Pirate fans, I'm truly sorry, but you put up a good fight.

Wow, Millennium Falcon vs. Saturn V--looking forward to the Space Showdown! -That's- going to be quite the fight!

I agree with those calling for more positive advocates--the argument used "for" Emerald Night was what I turned against it to vote for the Falcon. At least I think--I can't seem to find the voting articles on the site anymore.

The Parisian Restaurant is my favorite of these sets.

you cant actually do this contest because you would have to vote for every singular lego set ever made from poly bags to the UCS falcon

Man...0 for 4 on the second day...after 3 for 4 on the first. My average ain't looking good LOL

Prognosis / Pronostics:

1 10243 Parisian Restaurant
2 70620 NINJAGO City
3 21310 Old Fishing Store
4 21309 NASA Apollo Saturn V

I actually liked the Roller Coaster way more than Hogwarts, the mini model never seemed as cool as collecting all the modular minifig scale sets.

No surprise that Barracuda Bay and Ninjago City were close. Even I had trouble deciding between them, but I did rank Barracuda a little higher.

I’ve still got my fingers crossed for 79003 An Unexpected Gathering BUT 70620 NINJAGO City Is going to be a really tough competitor.

It is worth noting that this popularity contest being largely based on set ownership makes the results, at least so far, somewhat predictable no-matter how one chooses to vote. 75% of the more popular sets have won, with the only two exceptions being the Medieval Market Village, which likely beat the Slave I due to its extraordinary nostalgia factor, and the Hogwarts Castle, which has similar levels of ownership compared to the Roller Coaster and won by 1 vote. I think instead of randomizing the sets in a head-to-head bout, pairing them against each other based on their ownership numbers would have made for closer and less predictable outcomes. However, going into the quarter-finals, I have to admit the results are looking completely unpredictable at this later stage and the outcomes may very well be decided by the advocacy authors, so my argument may no longer be valid by then.

Never knew you can win by one vote. The RC should have won. Well really disappointed by the results so far, even the top 16 was a disappointment tbh. None of my top 5 made the top 16 list. To those above who said PR would easily beat MMV, we'll see. PR only beats AS with a small margin and MMV beats S1 by a mile (biggest margin so far). So it would be for sure a close contest, would be really shocked if PR beats MMV by a mile. Also don't really see MF would beats MMV by a mile consider MMV beats S1 by a mile. To some people S1 is better than MF. If they match up it would be a close match as well.

Got on yesterday in time to vote and only 2 out of the 4 had been posted. Forgot to get on again after the other 2 were posted. I would have voted for roller coaster so my vote would have tied if I had got back on when I did.

Really wish we had more than 24 hours for some of these choices

@Lvl I don't think you're wrong, but I don't know what other outcome there could be. I think there's almost a direct correlation between set ownership and what sets people consider "best" - it follows that people buy the sets they like the most, and don't buy the ones they don't.

Also, which I think advocacy authors might swing a small percentage of the vote, I'd imagine most people would base their decision based on their own personal emotion and reasoning. If anything, the advocacy may just serve as a reminder to trigger peoples memory from their build experience or something.

I'd like to see Medieval Market Village win but I don't think it stands a chance against the front runner.

My favourite set of all time, the Emerald Night got drawn against the people's favourite, the Falcon. I love Star Wars and even though I voted for the EN, I respect the Falcon's victory. Shame that the brackets were set like that, as there were many other top 16 sets it could have beaten. If it got further, it might have insentivised TLG to make more trains. I really hope the Falcon DOES NOT win outright - like I said I love Star Wars, but having the biggest and most expensive set win is boring and predictable.

Also, @Huw, will we get a "3rd/4th playoff" and the results from the original vote where people submitted 5 sets released?

Glad to see Ninjago City got its due, but disappointed in the voting against the Emerald Night. I mean, like I wrote in the comments, I own both sets, and that means they are both, in my eyes, really, really good and quality sets. Otherwise, I wouldn't have spent a total of $900 on them both. So I had to dig deep to figure out what elevated one over the other. And I think Emerald Night was the better. Oh well; we'll see how the UCS Falcon does in this next round.

@Huw said:
"Yes, I will publish the original vote when it's over. It will be interesting to see how it aligns with the contest."
Well 1st place should align, since everybody will vote for what they consider to be the overall best set, irrespective of what it's drawn against.

Order below 1st will literally be luck of the draw.

@Semantic said:
"I have strong feeling that for such a title (best sets of millenium) there should be a couple of categories based on parts count or price maybe. Because (except for Bag end and maybe Emerald Night) it became a kind of contest of HUGE detailed sets. But are bigger sets really "best"? What about just great smaller sets like 60092-1 or 5770-1?"

I agree. Stuff like UFC or wrestling have divisions by weight. Heavyweight sets shouldn't be competing with featherweight sets.

At the same time, this is a "best of" competition, so naturally the bigger and more detailed sets will float to the top.

On a different note, there are just as many, if not more, FOLs who grew up with Ninjago, not Pirates. Pirates of Barracuda Bay is an amazing throwback, but Ninjago City is an absolute masterclass in parts usage and what is possible with Lego.

7/8 right. This is really exciting, thanks for setting it up!
Btw, all decisions were so hard, they are all lovely sets, great representation on why we love lego!

Did I miss something? When was 1, 4, 5, and 8 fought?

Forgot to put in my vote for the Hogwarts Castle last night, and it only won by one vote! Crazy.

Come on Saturn V!!!
“One truth I have discovered for sure. When you believe that all things are possible and you are willing to work hard to accomplish your goals, you can achieve the next ‘impossible’ dream. No dream is too high!”

@Duq said:
"Poor Emerald Night never stood a chance..."

No way man! They were a vote apart, surprising for me to be honest. Hogwarts is a much better build in my opinion, however much trains are cool ;)

6/8 of mine won.
Disney castle lost. ??
I chose not to vote on another,

I'm disappointed that the polls are only open for a few hours. I was busy yesterday and didn't get to vote...and I would have voted for the Roller Coaster over Hogwarts!

Me and my mate were going to vote for the Rollercoaster, but then we thought our votes would never make a difference so didn’t bother.

@CCC said:
"Of course you can win by one vote, given the one with most votes wins. The rollercoaster shouldn't have won, as it got fewer votes than Hogwarts."
If it's that close in most situations people may expect a runoff/revote, etc, or let people vote for a little longer until the margin is slightly wider. Even 10 votes would be too close to call, let alone 1 vote. Fewer votes? Yes, but just by 1 vote. It's basically a tie. As you can see from many of the comments above, a lot of people said they would have voted RC if they knew it's this close and I think RC would have won if people knew it's that close. And yes, the RC should have won imo. HC is not really special to me compared to RC.

Looking at the results I'm almost certain that MF will take the cake at the end.

@natro220
Yeah right. No revote or extend voting time. Just flip a coin if there's a tie in future rounds.

@oscarc602 said:
"you cant actually do this contest because you would have to vote for every singular lego set ever made from poly bags to the UCS falcon"

That was the initial round where we listed our favorite 5 sets of the last 20 years. Then, the sets that were listed the most reached the knockout round (round of 16).

It’s such a pity that 10255 Assembly Square,
21322 Pirates of Barracuda Bay,
71040 Disney Castle, and most particularly 10261 Roller Coaster have been eliminated before the quarterfinals!
I’d happily have all 4 in my top 8 of the last 20 years, and both Barracuda Bay & Roller Coaster are easily worthy of taking the trophy - maybe all-time!! (Not just this Millenium) - and it seems many Brickset members share that opinion, judging by the comments. Just unlucky first-round matchups :(
Would definitely take ANY of these 4 over Old Fishing Store, Unexpected Gathering & Medieval Market Village - all great sets, and nothing against them, but really surprised they each made the top-16, let alone won a round!
Still shocked that Unexpected Gathering knocked out the Disney Castle!
Oh well, it’s all just a game, and a lot of fun!
Don’t forget to smile, people ??

@ c c c would be interesting to see what the people would say if the the future rounds and final round are also being won by 1 vote out of thousands of votes.

@ gonesnakee
lol sure winning a soccer game by 1 goal (1:0) is certainly the same as winning by 1 vote out of over 4000 votes.

After the detailed release of the Grand Piano, you have a very strong contender for this. You might have to add the set to this draw, it looks simply amazing and I cannot wait to get my hands on it.

I can't choose - 75192 Millennium Falcon vs 21309 NASA Apollo Saturn V.

Ucs Slave 1 made it on, not Ucs Imperial shuttle, X wing, or imperial star destroyer?

@Balthazar_Brannigan said:
" @Terreneflame said:
" @bigginsd said:
"Me and my mate were going to vote for the Rollercoaster, but then we thought our votes would never make a difference so didn’t bother."

This is a great lesson in why voting Always matters
"

"Decisions are made by those who show up." - President Josiah Bartlet"

Another TWW fan! Though it would never happen, how cool would it be to get a set based off the show?

@MingusDew said:
"In case anyone's still reading these comments and wants to order a Treehouse set, they're now on back order on the LEGO website"

Thank you! I'd almost given up hope--especially painful after reading the backer's write-up in the relevant Brickset Bout!

I can't believe Assembly Square is out. It's the only one I own and when I bought it I had to decide between it and the Parisian Restaurant. The Parisian is great but the Assembly Square is better.

Woo hoo - Lego US site has Assembly Square for backorder!

Where do we vote? I missed the first round. Will there be an article?

@rljf311 said:
" @Balthazar_Brannigan said:
" @Terreneflame said:
" @bigginsd said:
"Me and my mate were going to vote for the Rollercoaster, but then we thought our votes would never make a difference so didn’t bother."

This is a great lesson in why voting Always matters
"

"Decisions are made by those who show up." - President Josiah Bartlet"

Another TWW fan! Though it would never happen, how cool would it be to get a set based off the show?"

Likewise! I agree, that would be awesome! It's fun to hope... and rewatching it recently makes me want to try my hand at MOCing the characters, at the very least.