LEGO Ideas 21323 Grand Piano revealed!
Posted by Huw,
The next LEGO Ideas set, based on Donny Chen's Playable LEGO Piano project, is being launched on August 1st, and it looks to be very faithful to his original submission.
Here's all you need to know:
21323 Grand Piano, 3,662 pieces
US $349.99 / CA $449.99 / €349.99 / £319.99 / 2699.0DKK
Build the first-ever playable LEGO Grand Piano!
Do you have a passion for music? Do you like to relax by focusing on a fun, hands-on project in your free time? If so, this incredible LEGO Ideas Grand Piano model kit (21323) is just the creative activity for you.
Feel the pride of building a sophisticated, brick-built version of a concert grand piano that you can actually play music with! Recreate the hammer action of each piano key, the moving pedal and authentic details such as the propped-open top lid and fallboard. Turn on the motor and then you are all set to play wonderful music – select user play on the free LEGO Powered Up app to play the notes yourself or activate auto play and just listen.
- Drum roll please as we proudly introduce the first-ever, playable LEGO Grand Piano! Experience the hands-on pleasure of creating a highly sophisticated LEGO concert piano model and then play beautiful music with it.
- The LEGO Ideas Grand Piano (21323) has a removable 25-key keyboard, authentic hammer action, moving dampers and pedal, and motor. Combined with the LEGO Powered Up app, you can play a tune yourself or automatically.
- Revel in the authentic design details of this beautiful model, from the top lid that can be propped up just like a real grand piano’s, to the opening fallboard and piano leg wheels, plus a height adjustable bench.
- The piano measures over 8.5” (22.5cm) high, 12” (30.5cm) wide and 13.5” (35.5cm) deep when closed.
FEEL THE RHYTHM WITH THE SPECTACULAR FAN-DESIGNED LEGO IDEAS GRAND PIANO SET
Imagined by an avid LEGO builder, the LEGO Group’s brand-new LEGO Ideas Grand Piano is a show-stopping set for adult music lovers and builders - available from 1st August from LEGO.com and LEGO Stores.
[23rd July 2020] A dazzling idea from a keen LEGO builder and music enthusiast, has now been brought to life after receiving overwhelming demand from the public - as the LEGO Group launches the brand-new LEGO Ideas Grand Piano set. The latest product is part of the LEGO Ideas collection, which conceptualises and produces the creative wonders imagined and voted for by LEGO fans themselves.
Designed with the intricate elements of a real grand piano, this brand-new set is a fully immersive build. With a clever motor and working keys, when the set is combined with the LEGO Powered Up app, fans can become musical maestros one brick and one note at a time - making it The LEGO Group’s first-ever piano set with the ability to play music.
Talented builders can try their hand at creating their own masterpiece on the LEGO Ideas Grand Piano using the LEGO Powered Up app, which allows them full control of the musical notes and piano keys. Alternatively, those looking to sit back and relax can choose to select ‘auto-play’ and enjoy the dulcet tones of one of the ten pre-set songs available.
The brand-new set is a masterpiece of craft and innovation, featuring all the makings of real-life grand piano to give an authentic musical experience in LEGO brick-form. These authentic features include a removable 25-key keyboard, a top lid that can be propped up, an authentic hammer action and a moving damper and pedal, which help to make the LEGO Ideas Grand Piano as beautiful as it is functional.
Once built, the 3,662-piece LEGO Ideas Grand Piano is made to take centre stage as a spectacular display model for any room, measuring over 8.5” (22.5cm) high, 12” (30.5cm) wide and 13.5” (35.5cm) deep when closed.
The new grand piano set is part of the LEGO Ideas collection, which offers fans the opportunity to submit their own brick creations with the chance to have their concept brought to life with the help of LEGO master designers and a share of the profits. Other recent LEGO Ideas sets inspired by LEGO fans, include the LEGO Ideas Pirates of Barracuda Bay and the LEGO Ideas Friends Central Perk.
Imagined by music teacher and LEGO aficionado Donny Chen, this set was designed as a way for him to combine his passion for music with his passion for building. To add to the excitement and personal feel of the build, the LEGO Ideas Grand Piano even features a music sheet composed by Donny himself.
Speaking about the process, Donny Chen said: “When I’m not building with LEGO bricks, I’m teaching, tuning or writing music on my piano. So, when I first discovered LEGO Ideas, I knew I wanted to build something that not only combined my two passions, but also looked visually stunning. It’s truly an honour to see my idea brought to life by the talented people at the LEGO Group and I hope it brings joy to all the other music fans who voted for the idea on the LEGO Ideas platform.”
Federico Begher, VP of Global Marketing at The LEGO Group added: “We get so many amazing concepts submitted through our LEGO Ideas platform, but when we saw Donny’s piano design it really stood out as something extraordinary, with great potential to become a truly unique LEGO set.
The accompanying images and video submitted by Donny really sparked some ideas within the team. We believed that including power functions as part of the model to enable the set to play real music in real life would elevate the design even further. We simply could not pass on the opportunity to create the ultimate LEGO Ideas Grand Piano model for music and LEGO fans alike!”
The new LEGO Ideas Grand Piano set is the latest example of how the LEGO Group aims to inspire builders of all ages to build, rebuild and get excited by the process of creation.
LEGO Ideas Grand Piano will be available directly via LEGO.com and LEGO Stores from August 1st
So, just to be clear, then, the piano itself does not make any noise: that will come from your phone. There is only one motor and one sensor in the set, so while the mechanism is likely to be impressive, it's not going to be as sophisticated as a pianola.
You can find more images on the set details page, and pianist Alice will prepare our review as soon as our copy arrives.
Across space, time, age and culture, music joins us together and can change the world. The LEGO Ideas Grand Piano has arrived… ??https://t.co/Cpmdhgmzq5 pic.twitter.com/O3Xoyjql2k
— LEGO (@LEGO_Group) July 23, 2020
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Looks great. I'll have to start saving!
I was not expecting that price, looks amazing though.
Time to rob a bank...
Far to expensive for me, but still its a highly impressive piece.
Wow! Can this be a late entry to the best of the millennium tournament? Really looking forward to this.
Not at all a fan of that price. A hard pass for me
I wonder how the mechanism involving the powered up stuff is gunna work. We'll see.
Whoa, the first 18+ Ideas set!
And it really plays music, with the Powered Up app! That's just so cool. I hope the grown-ups like it, since LEGO has decided to make it squarely for the 18+ demographic. It looks pretty sizable, just like the original submission, rather than small and toy-sized.
That price tag, though. Does it include both the motor and the hub? That's going to please those who want the functionality and annoy those who don't. There is no winning in such a case (i.e. whether the components are included or sold separately).
WOW. Amazing set but I was really not prepared for that price. I can't swing that unfortunately. Maybe I'll get lucky on ebay some day.
Amazing stuff, unfortunately out of my price range
Very underwhelmed tbh. One thing I do want to confirm: was the original IDEAS model actually playable, or did it also use a phone?
Lego has been putting out some really amazing sets but unfortunately (and understandably) they come with a hefty price tag. What makes it worse is that if these sets are out of production the second hand prices are likely to go up which makes them even more unattainable
At that price this is going to be a tough sell for anyone without a deep personal connection to a piano. With that said, very impressive. The Ideas line continues to showcase the immense creativity and skills of the community.
I think the price is actually reasonable considering the fact it works. Ok £320 isn't exactly great value but with all that went into this set i think its justifiable and definitely something worth picking up.
Its beautiful imo.
Also take into account that Powered Up parts are included, they themselves cost over £80 separately.
Am I wrong, or there is something wrong with the proportions? Isn't it too thick?
I’d say something on the price, but I guess maybe that’s the cost of the thing looking as nice as it does and working as it should?
Also I just realized, if LEGO is going to keep this 18+ line a thing then maybe they should release sets that have a smaller entry point outside the hundreds of dollar ranges,
Certainly the statement piece if you’re into music. I’m not £320 into it though.
Uh oh, someone broke the comment section.
I’ve no interest in these sets that are dependent upon an app. None. I don’t want to be left with a paper weight when the app is (inevitably) not supported. And Yes, I’m sure someone will probably figure out some work around, but I’ll guarantee you I won’t be arsed messing around with it. I’ll want it to just work.
I'm so upset and disappointed with this reveal. Why do they have to integrate it with PoweredUp!?
It raised the price by 150 € and added small value. In ten years I highly doubt that the app will still be supported on whatever technology we will be using in 2030.
And the fact that you press any key and the music goes on, whether you pressed the right key or not, it's pretty dumb, as a former musician. Since it's aimed at an adult target, you don't actually need all of that play value (pun not intended).
I was so excited when it passed the review, but in my opinion they completely missed the point.
It's a little amusing that this ended up with more pieces than what LEGO Ideas even allows for submissions (3k pieces).
@LegoSonicBoy said:
"Uh oh, someone broke the comment section."
it me?
Far too expensive for me but I appreciate the ingenuity and design. Might be a set I build from my own collection, order the parts I don’t have and also probably the sensor and motor. Additionally, is the sensor a new piece and how does the mechanism work? Will the sensor sense me tapping onto a specific key and play the according note from my phone? If so, then the sensor will need to run the entire length of the keyboard.
And yes, the price is very reasonable just outside of my budget.
What is wrong with these comments?
Love the looks, but I just spent 400 on the lamborghini and I think they messed it up with the powered up system.
Wow, I didn't imagine it would have sounds on phone to, my god where will it all end!
Are new lego releases weekly now!
I want to but space again is an issue!
It's not so much as it's too thick but scaled laterally. If you just look at the keyboard / fallboard the height proportions are generally correct. But the width is off, for obvious reasons. If you widen the piano to full width and depth the height starts to look a lot more proportional.
Wow, this is beyond my expectations! I figured they would just give us the mechanism of a piano, not the actual ability to make music!
I am still intrigued as to how the smartphone app works - how can the phone possibly recognise which keys have been pressed so that you can "play a tune yourself"?
And what's the sensor used for inside the piano body? Is it allowing the piano to recognise when pedals are pressed, so the app changes the piano tones?
I am eagerly awaiting the reviews. And maybe a lottery win, so I can afford to buy this beauty.
Wow. Expensive as all get out, but as a piano major in school, I'm making room on a shelf somewhere for this.
It looks like there is a 32L axle running the width of the keyboard, which is pushed up when the keys are pressed, and pivots around the yellow technic joint on the left.
Then the sensor (a new type?) is behind the 4 stacked thin red technic liftarms.
So the nearer the key to the left, the further it will lift that axle.
But surely that sensor, whatever it is, won't be sensitive enough to differentiate between the different lift from different keys?
Looks really great. Yes, it's expensive, but it's such a unique and clever set.
(The comments seem broken, I wonder if this will fix it? i< ?)
From the article on The Brothers Brick (https://www.brothers-brick.com/2020/07/23/lego-ideas-21323-grand-piano-makes-music-starting-aug-1st-news/), it's clear that this set can't actually detect which key you're pressing, but just responds to any key press when producing the music.
"The piano can be played in either a “user play” toy piano mode (where hitting any key produces the next note in a selected song) or in an “auto-play” mode (where the piano moves randomized keys while the app produces music like a player piano)."
@CDM 's first comment has a less-than sign, then an 'S' - which is telling browsers to strike-through everything after. I tried to end it with /S inside HTML brackets, or just >, but neither worked. Hopefully @Huw can fix the comment (really shouldn't allow embedded HTML in the comments...)
I really wanted this set, until I saw the price. I do not understand how they can justify £320 pounds for this.
3662 pieces for £319.99?
The Harry Potter School is £349.99 for 6020. The Death Star is £409.99 for 4016. Ghostbusters HQ was £284.99 for 4634. The Ninjago was £259.99 for 4867. The Ninjago City Docks were £199.99 for 3553. The Disney Castle £299.99 for 4080. The Sand Crawler £249.99 for 3296. The Tree House £179.99 for 3036. The Pirates of Barracuda Bay £179.99 for 2545. Big Ben £179.99 for 4163. Assembly Square £179.99 for 4002. The Taj Mahal £299.99 for 5923.
I don't understand the price, I really don't.
Are the power functions included?
I would have brought this set for under £200. This is way too overpriced.
Wow. That is amazing.
Not owning any smart devices, the app functionatlity is useless to me, but the set itself is gorgeous. An instant buy for me. I just somehow missed how big it would be, even though looking back there was a large piececount in the original submission...
That is marvellous!
This set has very special meaning to me. My brother at the age of 43, passed away from cancer 10 weeks ago. He has always been a great piano player and was self taught. Even when he was in palliative, he played the piano for the other patients as they had an old piano in the hospital ward.
When this set was initially approved, I was hoping it would be released in time where my brother and I could build it together and I would have something I could display, knowing our hands together built a baby grand. Sadly, his time ran out, but i want to still build this set is his honor.
When we grew up as kids, he loved GIJoe and I loved Lego but we shared our toys and played together. Today, I'm an adult collector and building helps me with the everyday stresses of life and coping with my brother's loss...it allows me to escape back to my childhood. Sorry for being sappy on this post, but to me, Lego is the greatest toy ever produced and I have so much emotion built up for this new set.
Impressive, but that price though.
When I saw the Ideas project, I was expecting a $200 price point. This beauty will take some saving.
This is going to be a $770 Fall. =O
@CCC said:
" @ChocolateCrisps said:
"From the article on The Brothers Brick (https://www.brothers-brick.com/2020/07/23/lego-ideas-21323-grand-piano-makes-music-starting-aug-1st-news/), it's clear that this set can't actually detect which key you're pressing, but just responds to any key press when producing the music.
"The piano can be played in either a “user play” toy piano mode (where hitting any key produces the next note in a selected song) or in an “auto-play” mode (where the piano moves randomized keys while the app produces music like a player piano).""
LEGO's website says ... "choose 'user play' to play the notes yourself or 'auto play' to listen to 1 of 4 songs." To me, that means pressing a key should play that note. But then they do also say "pretend to play along ..." although later "you can play a tune yourself or automatically". I guess we'll find out when Huw/Alice reviews it.
They also use the word playable. If all it does is a play the next note in one of four preset tunes when you mash anything on the keyboard, then is that a playable piano? If that is all it does, I foresee complaints and returns.
"
Marketing teams are full of bad people :) I think I will wait the set's reviews before spending that much money. And the fact that it needs an app sucks a lot (we all know their apps are only supported for a few years).
This is a really cool set, and the fact that music actually plays (from your phone) is cool. Although it's really expensive and I don't have this much money to spend on a "toy" piano
Its a mixed bag isn't it. I did wonder how on earth it could play music. As a model it looks great, but if we wanted a model I'm sure we could have had one for £150-£200. To have an app that plays a song seems a little an expensive add-on. If its live so a key is detected and that note comes out of the phone so you cannot detect a delay then great, but that's the best you can hope for for the extra cost. Lets get a video review and re-judge. On the bright side if the designed gets the same percentage and they sell great news at £320 a pop.
Art or Piano?Art or Piano? Art or Piano? Art or Piano? ....hears rumours of Mos Eisley set, brain and wallet (And wife) explodes. Gahhhhh!
p.s. as has also been mentioned with ALL of the sets coming out on August 1st I predict Lego's best single day sale on the internet, and depending on how many sores are open there too. Lego if you are listening.... please try to stager these things we can't all afford £1000 a month. @Huw I wonder if you could produce any stats on the cost of all new sets for each release day... in 2020 ? Anyone?
This is the one set so far where the 18+ box art standard really and truly works. If Steinway sold $350 piano toys, that is exactly what the box would look like.
Hmm. £320 is an eye-watering price. I could buy an actual digital piano for that money.
And the 'playability' is something of a stretch. I appreciate that you can play some notes, but for the most part you're listening to a piece of music while looking at a Lego set - the relationship between the set and the music is tenuous at best.
Well done, Donny Chen, for getting this into production, but I'd be doubtful at half the price. At north of £300 that's an easy pass.
Amazing build. I'll may not buy it for myself but it will be a great present for a classics fan.
This is an awesome set, but I do think it’s a bit expensive, and I also think it’s a shame that the sound only comes from your phone. LEGO Powered Up is a great system, but it’s so much more expensive than Power Functions and for a set like this it would have been amazing if sound bricks could have been integrated. However, I’m not a LEGO designer and I’m sure this must have been an insanely challenging set to put together. For $350 though, I’m just not interested. Can’t wait to see reviews though!
I don’t know why I was under the impression that the set would play music itself. The fact it can’t and the cost have turned me off, but it looks beautiful.
@CCC said:
"Actually playable (via the app). Three words that kill a set.
Still, it makes a nice cubic foot phone stand."
If it had Qi certified wireless charging built in, I'd be sold.
Seriously though, as a musician I was interested in this set, but when I noticed the price tag I suddenly changed my mind.
I can't wait to get it! The functionality looks great. How lucky that Alice is a pianist and can give us a knowledgeable review.
UCS black tile parts pack
@LegoSonicBoy said:
"Whoa, the first 18+ Ideas set!
And it really plays music, with the Powered Up app! That's just so cool. I hope the grown-ups like it, since LEGO has decided to make it squarely for the 18+ demographic. It looks pretty sizable, just like the original submission, rather than small and toy-sized.
That price tag, though. Does it include both the motor and the hub? That's going to please those who want the functionality and annoy those who don't. There is no winning in such a case (i.e. whether the components are included or sold separately)."
Yes it does, according to The Brothers Brick. It says "The Grand Piano comes with a motor, smart hub, and sensor used to connect to the LEGO Powered Up app which creates the sound." https://www.brothers-brick.com/2020/07/23/lego-ideas-21323-grand-piano-makes-music-starting-aug-1st-news/
@NickF22 Yes, you're exactly right. My ignorance to coding(?) kicked the cord. Apologies to the dozens.
My offending comment was in reference to the boring packaging. I'm not so sure the revised packaging scheme is having the desired effect. It's just so bland and after seeing 10-15 new products using the scheme it's really becoming noticeable. And I say that acknowledging that the piano is probably the first set where the design is appropriate.
@CDM said:
"At that price this is going to be a tough sell for anyone without a deep personal connection to a piano. With that said, very impressive. The Ideas line continues to showcase the immense creativity and skills of the community. "
I don't have a deep personal connection to a piano, but I do play guitar, and am very into music. Day one purchase for me.
@ChocolateCrisps said:
"The piano can be played in either a “user play” toy piano mode (where hitting any key produces the next note in a selected song) or in an “auto-play” mode (where the piano moves randomized keys while the app produces music like a player piano)."
Then I'd say the Powered Up integration is sadly rather pointless and just adds to the price as well as the thickness of the model.
Could Lego have offered this set at $279US? Perhaps... $329US? Likely. But then again the set is ingenious beyond anything they have put out in...years, beyond Voltron. And this is ~1300 more pieces than that set and includes some power function components. So-IMO- the price point is fair.
While there are some issues they are either immaterial or invalid given the medium. I rack my brain wondering how anyone expects plastic bricks to actually produce musical tones. If that were possible real pianos wouldn't be made of wood and string and metal. The notes coming from an electronic device is no different than using a midi controller connected to a tablet or laptop. Given that the user is building a controller from Lego I consider this phenomenonal. Likewise the dimensions are understandable. More accurate proportionality would increase the size and therefore the cost. Anyone familiar with Lego knows that the actual product ALWAYS looks better than the pre-release images. This set looks stunning in the promotionals. The actual set should be mind-blowing
It is a day one purchase for me- only because I decided to hold off on the Lambo due to it's delayed release in the US and then reports coming out re the color scheme issues. If this is NOT available in-store (a LEGO store is 15min from my home) Aug 1st I'm going to be very disappointed. The biggest problem I have is that I cannot build immediately as I have no place to display at the time.
Its BEAUTIFUL!
As a pianist, this is the perfect combination of two of my passions, and its surreal that TLG actually released a sizeable grand piano. To me, its more than a model, or a playset, or an overpriced smartphone stand haha. Its a physical manifestation of my passion for the piano and its music (other than the actual piano of course :P), and it is a way to explore and experience my passion in a different way. Of course, it being a 3.6k+ piece set also guarantees some form of accuracy and functionality. Love the little details, from the "brand" of the piano printed as Lego, to the "lock" at the front of the piano represented by the gold(?) ignot piece. The other functions (semi-functional hammers, adjustable seat, the opening top lid) are expected of a set this large (and expensive).
Also, absolutely loved the reveal video to the tune of Moonlight. I got chills by watching it, as the music builds and the camera pans out, its beautiful. Its obvious that the people behind this video understands and appreciates music deeply, and its an amazing experience seeing it come to life. The team behind that video deserves a raise haha
Is it worth its price tag though? As many have pointed out (and rightfully so), one could buy an electronic keyboard for the price of this set. Personally, it is out of my budget currently (got to start saving more!) but if I had enough disposable income, I would grab it in a heartbeat. I would actually prefer TLG forgoing the powered-up functionality (like they did with the Crocodile Locomotive just a while back), and just giving us a potentially motorise-able grand piano at lower cost. That being said, absolutely LOVE this set in all its glory
As someone who can play pianos a little bit, I was really looking forward to this set. The final design looks incredible and I can absolutely see the effort and detail that's gone into it. But £320?! Really?! That's at least £100 more than I was expecting for what seems to be just the ability to 'play' via the app, which frankly I'm not bothered about at all.
If the piano itself can't play notes (and realistically it was never going to) then I'd rather have a 'silent' version where the keys move etc. but no sound and therefore no link to the PoweredUp app. As others have said, apps only get updated for so long so what happens in 5-10+ years when you want to 'play' with the set only to find it doesn't work fully anymore? That's a lot of money wasted for functionality that potentially no longer exists. Will I have to keep an 'old' smartphone lying around just so I can get the piano to 'play' when the phone serves no other purpose?
If they could make a 2nd, cheaper version without the ability to link to the app, I'd probably be there in a shot.
It breaks my heart slightly to say this is going to have to be a pass for me.
These prices are getting out of hand. I'm sorry, but CA $449.99 before tax is ridiculous and laughable. I would even say out of touch with reality in a time people and economics are fighting to survive all over the world due to the pandemic.
Lego needs to climb down and keep in mind that, by the end of the day, it's still a plastic building toy.
Regardless of one's personal means to purchase or not this set, I hope people would vote with their wallets, otherwise a minimum $350 sets would be the new norm.
Even if the power functions are included, it still doesn't justify the price for me. There are a lot of sets out there that don't require functions, had more pieces and yet were cheaper than this. I would have preferred it if they sold those separately, as then it would be a lot cheaper and I would be able to actually justify the cost to myself.
That this is what they're doing to the piano gets me wondering and worried about the typewriter.
Another Ideas set that I thought I would possibly purchase when it passed the review.
Now however, I can see the same sort of price for a machine with power functions that requires a downloadable app for the sound that such a typewriter model makes.
@CCC : You don't have to wait for the review - from The Brothers Brick:
LEGO Design Lead Sam Johnson: “Our piano doesn’t have a ‘natural piano’ function where you play the keys as if they were real because that would have been prohibitively complicated to produce as a LEGO set.
LEGO Designer Chee Woon Tze: “You don’t need to know how to play music with this, all you need to do is press the keys.”
Anyone who thinks that you can press say an "A" key and actually hear an "A" will be very disappointed.
@daniellesa said:
"I really wanted this set, until I saw the price. I do not understand how they can justify £320 pounds for this.
3662 pieces for £319.99?
The Harry Potter School is £349.99 for 6020. The Death Star is £409.99 for 4016. Ghostbusters HQ was £284.99 for 4634. The Ninjago was £259.99 for 4867. The Ninjago City Docks were £199.99 for 3553. The Disney Castle £299.99 for 4080. The Sand Crawler £249.99 for 3296. The Tree House £179.99 for 3036. The Pirates of Barracuda Bay £179.99 for 2545. Big Ben £179.99 for 4163. Assembly Square £179.99 for 4002. The Taj Mahal £299.99 for 5923.
I don't understand the price, I really don't.
Are the power functions included?
I would have brought this set for under £200. This is way too overpriced.
"
It's in line with LITERALLY EVERY OTHER SET released that you didn't mention. I swear, if I had a penny every time somebody complained about the pricing on LEGO sets...
Looks absolutely amazing .... with an equally incredible price tag.
Playable via the app is always disappointing to read and for me personally I would prefer a more affordable set without the Powered Up App
yawn..for 350€ i can buy an actual piano....enough said!
If lego would only put the same effort in city-sets, I would be a very lucky man...
Now that's a disappointment. For that price they could have added a switches strip to detect which button was pressed.
@Island_Lego
Thoughts with you and your family with the loss of your brother.
Thank you for sharing your beautiful and very special sentiments.
Holy cow that’s incredible. But I need to know more about the limits before I buy.
Any picture with the fallboard closed?
I was very excited for this until I saw the app required power functions and the high price due to them. That stuff should have been optional. I'm afraid that I'll have to pass on this.
This needs to come with a Billy Joel minifigure.
The fact that it says it sounds but it doesn't, is enough to be taken as a hoax. I would rather spend $300.00 on a real one that I can play with than a $100.00 for this lego version that only accumulates dust and take my valuable space.
@TheRightP_art said:
"Far too expensive for me but I appreciate the ingenuity and design. Might be a set I build from my own collection, order the parts I don’t have and also probably the sensor and motor. Additionally, is the sensor a new piece and how does the mechanism work? Will the sensor sense me tapping onto a specific key and play the according note from my phone? If so, then the sensor will need to run the entire length of the keyboard.
And yes, the price is very reasonable just outside of my budget."
It would have been possible to attach a phone to the inside of the cabinet and use the camera (after calibration) to detect which note is played.
Looks really cool but holy hell that price.
@CCC said:
" @LegoSonicBoy said:
"Whoa, the first 18+ Ideas set!
And it really plays music, with the Powered Up app! That's just so cool. I hope the grown-ups like it, since LEGO has decided to make it squarely for the 18+ demographic. It looks pretty sizable, just like the original submission, rather than small and toy-sized.
"
It is a two octave keyboard that is just under a foot wide. I'd say that is very toy-sized. Most toy keyboards aimed at under 10s are about that size. Of course the build itself is aimed at adults, but the result is very toy like in scale."
Indeed. My piano has 23.5 mm wide white keys. These are two studs wide, so 16 mm wide. But still playable unless one has really wide fingers.
At over $500AU, a very easy pass.
@saldal330 said:
"The fact that it says it sounds but it doesn't, is enough to be taken as a hoax. I would rather spend $300.00 on a real one that I can play with than a $100.00 for this lego version that only accumulates dust and take my valuable space."
It's still Lego. The same goes for something like Creator Expert vehicles. You can probably find a more realistic looking die cast model.
Beautiful set! My wife is going to kill me. I was expecting a $60-100 set.
I do think this is marketed incorrectly. As a music teacher I see droves of kids who take piano lessons. This totally should have been a set marketed towards kids. I think Lego is going to miss out on a lot of sales because of this and the higher price point.
@Sanyiman said:
" @daniellesa said:
"I really wanted this set, until I saw the price. I do not understand how they can justify £320 pounds for this.
3662 pieces for £319.99?
The Harry Potter School is £349.99 for 6020. The Death Star is £409.99 for 4016. Ghostbusters HQ was £284.99 for 4634. The Ninjago was £259.99 for 4867. The Ninjago City Docks were £199.99 for 3553. The Disney Castle £299.99 for 4080. The Sand Crawler £249.99 for 3296. The Tree House £179.99 for 3036. The Pirates of Barracuda Bay £179.99 for 2545. Big Ben £179.99 for 4163. Assembly Square £179.99 for 4002. The Taj Mahal £299.99 for 5923.
I don't understand the price, I really don't.
Are the power functions included?
I would have brought this set for under £200. This is way too overpriced.
"
It's in line with LITERALLY EVERY OTHER SET released that you didn't mention. I swear, if I had a penny every time somebody complained about the pricing on LEGO sets..."
Oh really, which ones?
I could afford this if I wanted to. I'm not complaing because I can't. The ones I listed were the sets I brought, minus Harry Potter. I'm complaining because in this case, I don't think the price is justified.
During times of pandemic.........
I don't know what LEGO is waiting to create, marketing, and sell us a respirator that doesn't breathe!!
I read the words "using the app" and instantly lose interest, to me that means "probably useless in less than 5 years".
I hope TLG will issue a statement saying that they will support the Power Functions for as long as the company will exist.
Magnifique ! Lego medium at its best IMO. Even if, one more time, far too expensive for me. But the price might be justified, somehow.
This might be one of the rare sets to have a poor review status on LEGO's website. While it is readily understandable that it would be HARD to make a LEGO piano in which pressing "C" generates a "C" sound....that is exactly what they are representing / purporting here.
Sure, you can parse the language (and they will), but they are going to get inundated with complaints and returns. Without the app, its a beautiful display piece (which is fine) that should cost $200 max.
Was very intrigued by this set, then discovered two things that instantly put me off: 1) It works with an App, :-( & 2) The price - Way too much... Really should have just made this a beautiful model of a Grand Piano and not effectively doubled the price adding the (gimmicky) piano player / app based novelty stuff in there. For not much over the £320 price tag you can buy a full size 88-note weighted digital piano.
While this is something I don’t buy, I have to admit it’s pretty incredible. The fact this model can actually play music blows my mind. I wouldn’t have ever guessed that the Powered Up app would work for this.
Seriously though. Why would they make a piano in this scale. This is bigger than even the modular buildings. I expect this would be in a small or medium scale at most and cost less than $50. Not $350. Another bad decision from Lego. People would get a real or an electric one if they want to play music. There are way better and bigger sets than this and cost cheaper.
For such a black set they could put a BATMAN logo on it! :)))
The RRP is fair, but it is expensive.
In the end it will be the NES or the piano, but both would blow my budget.
And there are still 3 Creator Expert to be released this year.
@TheRightP_art said:
"Far too expensive for me but I appreciate the ingenuity and design. Might be a set I build from my own collection, order the parts I don’t have and also probably the sensor and motor. Additionally, is the sensor a new piece and how does the mechanism work? Will the sensor sense me tapping onto a specific key and play the according note from my phone? If so, then the sensor will need to run the entire length of the keyboard.
And yes, the price is very reasonable just outside of my budget."
It is one colour and distance sensor, so given that there are 25 keys possibly they will either give each key a different colour, or measure the distance to that key from the sensor at the side of the paino. As either becomes problematic when you have lots of 'similar' colours or distances which are relatively shortly spaced, I assume they will combine the two and use say 5 contrasting colours and 5 'well spaced' distances. Either way this should make the correct note sound from your mobile when you hit the key. I will leave it to Alice to let us know what Lego actually did when she does her review.
The motor allows playback from the app, from the picture I'm afraid that this will most likely just be a random movement of keys up and down.
Possibly Lego should give the piano as a Christmas prize, if someone could provide a working model of some clever gearing and mechanism so that the app and motor can play the correct key among the 25 for some simple carol music.
I really like this and the only reason it's not a day 1 purchase is the cost. I can see both sides of the argument - motorising it massively increased the cost but it does look very cool IMO when it's playing. Probably means that fewer people will buy it, which might be a blow to the fan designer.
I wonder why they chose to include the motorisation rather than make it an add on like the Haunted House set. Maybe they felt a piano that didn't make any sound was a no-go, so made it part of the set? At least when they allow you to purchase the motors separately you can spread the cost a bit, especially with the new motors that are super expensive. I would probably buy the set on day 1 if they'd left it as an optional extra and then bought the motor and battery box after another couple of paydays.
In the official video, at 1:45 you see the phone screen with sheet music in the official app. It's titled "Fur Elise" but the notes don't make any sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgg61no1Hm4
Why insist on authenticity if it's not actually authentic?
The stool seems a bit odd to me. Why is there a gap between the flat plate and the rest of it?
@ambr : As quoted in a previous comment Lego themselves have confirmed it can't actually play the sound of the key you press.
@Double_J_Bricks : Again as quoted in a previous comment it can't really play music, not like a real piano anyway.
(Somehow there's no quote when I click "Reply"?)
Hmmm.... I was so excited for this set. Digging into it, they've used 30% more pieces than the submitted idea. I can't really see anything that justifies adding more pieces over the submitted design.
If anything, they've made the strings look slightly worse (although I can possibly understand that from a build point of view).
This could have been under £250, instead of £320. That's a pity.
£320 & no minifigs lol...
I like it alot but its wildely expensive!!
I thought whoa on the price too, however on another site the powered up hub is Included! So that’s a $90 price tag. So brings the set cost to $260 so not so bad...!
It's a big sum of money, but the result is everything I hoped for. For the first time in my life, I am happy to spend 350,- on a single Lego set.
Judging from the poll and the comments, I am the exception. That's okay :)
By Librarian1976 in United States, 23 Jul 2020 16:01
This needs to come with a Billy Joel minifigure.
For that price it needs to have Billy Joel coming round to my house!
Why no Jeep? ;-)
Seriously though, I really like it. Price has to come down a little though.
I don't have the money for it, but I sure wish I did...
@MrClassic said:
" @ambr : As quoted in a previous comment Lego themselves have confirmed it can't actually play the sound of the key you press.
@Double_J_Bricks : Again as quoted in a previous comment it can't really play music, not like a real piano anyway.
(Somehow there's no quote when I click "Reply"?)"
Although the app does not play the exact note (which is a shame) through your mobile, it must use the sensor to determine which key you have pressed in order to play the next note, i.e. this is all the same difference. How the app and sensor does this is not explained by Brothers brick or anyone eslse, so I was just putting a suggestion out there.
@lee1980 said:
"Wow, I didn't imagine it would have sounds on phone to, my god where will it all end!
Are new lego releases weekly now!
I want to but space again is an issue!"
Well, it's a luxury if space (and not the price) is the issue.
The price is the result of the Powered Up components and many pieces that are on average pricier than the average piece. I think the price is about what I would expect from such a set. Tunnelvisioning on piece count is pointless, quite bad metric of value in fact. This is not one of those sets with hundreds of 1x1 pieces to push up the piece count.
I guess 21324 will be 123 Sesame Street.
And here the Grand Piano by Tiago @Catarino
https://youtu.be/tqqhpC-QNqU
I like it
So it can't be played on its own? That's a dealbreaker for me. The whole appeal of the Ideas submission was to build a working piano, mechanism and all. Kind of a letdown, really. A shame since the aesthetics are spot-on.
@CCC said:
" ...even if you have incredibly fat fingers you can still play it as you just need to mash any key or combination of keys to play the next note in the tune."
"To obtain a special dialing wand, please mash the keypad with your palm now."
$350?? Wow, at least I'm not interested in any of the UCS this year... Another unique Ideas set, very cool! Wonder who'll be first to buy 4 of'em and build a full-length 88 key?
I still need the Treehouse, the Pirate Bay, Star Destroyer, so many other high dollar sets...heck I just finally picked up the Bookstore...Oy LEGO...you task me...you task me and I shall have you...
But here I am complaining about high priced sets I can’t afford, like so many of us. But really...we are so fortunate to have these options and creative sets from which to CHOOSE, don’t you think? In a lot of ways, it’s an amazing time to be a LEGO fan.
A very impressive set with a high price that I think is reasonable for all the parts it contains. I'm quite impressed with all the functionality that they were able to put into this and design it somewhat accurately to how a piano works. Also, some folks here seem to have some unreasonable and ridiculous expectations, do you really think it would be possible to make a correctly playable piano with sounds? Obviously not unless LEGO develops a powered up device to do that or use many sensors for each key.
@kkoster79 said:
"I thought whoa on the price too, however on another site the powered up hub is Included! So that’s a $90 price tag. So brings the set cost to $260 so not so bad...!"
This is the cost for you, not for Lego. Also, they could've easily made PU optional, like with the other sets. IF you only care about it as a display piece, the PU extra cost is not needed. They could've find ways to lower costs, but they decided not to.
Yowch, that price!
Also PU makes it a no-go for me.
LEGO has been releasing so many impressive and expensive sets lately that I'm starting to feel burnout in trying to get them all. Running after something you can never catch up. This one is beautiful but I just need to accept I'm going to have to let it go by.
Equals to $420 in Norway..., nice try LEGO. Anyway, wonder why they cannibalize their own sets by releasing so many at the same time/date..?
Its not the set for me (looks like a black tile parts pack :) but this is as close a replica of the original ideas submission as any (Likely by far the most accurate replica to date). As far as I can tell the dimensions in studs are almost identical to the original and in the video of the original Ideas submission it included a power functions box and motor to "play" the keys. The biggest fault with the lego version is the less realistic strings (using exclusively flex tubes instead of mix of string and tube like original). The functionality of this set is IDENTICAL to the original IDEAS submission (except with a PU link to the phone to make sound!). It was never going to be possible to generate real sound out to lego bricks- and hard to imagine how to use existing lego elements to make a real electronic keyboard that responded to touch. I would say the price is high, but a $250 black piano without any sound/ movement that is larger than a modular building seems like it wouldn't have worked as a product either. I guess one could have significantly downsized and shrunk the original submission to make a ~$100 version or stuck with the submitted scale and done what they did. I personally think the bigger version was the way to go but I see the argument for significantly smaller and cheaper set.
This set is why IDEAS is such a great platform.
I was interested in this set, but that price tag will keep me away. Not saying its not worth it, in general, but, for me, that's a lot of other Lego for that price.
My Autumn Star Wars UCS budget is hiding behind the sofa........ I think its days are numbered!
OK, so this is the same approval wave as Sesame Street. Based on the last few reveals, I'm a little concerned now that the pricing on that one will be a bit too high. I'm also curious how they will market and package SS. Still, hopefully it's here soon...
@MugenLazlo said:
"I guess 21324 will be 123 Sesame Street."
Can't wait will be another pricey one though if they keep it close to the original concept.
@daniellesa in United Kingdom
"The stool seems a bit odd to me. Why is there a gap between the flat plate and the rest of it?"
I think you are referring to the ability of the seat to be adjustable as I assume some piano benches are although I could be wrong. Take a look at the set images on Brickset.
I love it, and I can usually justify the ££‘s on any Lego I like...but jeez, I’d have taken £200 and no powered up but not £320 and an app!
Someone said the magic phrase "disposable income". It's exactly what you need in order to get that fabulous set. It's also sad that in 5 years from now, the app probably won't be around but the set as a conventional build is great.
I certainly won't get it though.
To me: "...select user play on the free LEGO Powered Up app to PLAY THE NOTES YOURSELF or activate auto play and just listen..." is just on the absolute verge of false advertising. I think it is a wonderful display piece for the affiliated musician. Personally, a display piece does not need any power functions which would have made it way more attractive to market at a lower pricepoint. But that is just me. Lego Marketing has probably figured this out way better than silly old me. For me it is a hard pass even though I was a semi professional musician for over 10 years. Love the mechanics, not the powered up stuff. On another note, power functions had a really nice price/function ratio, didn't it?
With the amount of great sets being released in August I'm almost glad that the Osprey was cancelled. At least I might have a couple of quid left for food!
I would rather have had the cute little fish tank.
On the other hand, my 2020 Lego want list is noticeably smaller than prior years. So Lego is saving me money!
Thanks, Lego!
@Sanyiman said:
"I swear, if I had a penny every time somebody complained about the pricing on LEGO sets..."
If I had a penny every time somebody complained about the pricing of LEGO sets, I would be able to afford LEGO sets! :~P
I'd have enjoyed it to make sound by itself.
@Mirakle said:
"I'd have enjoyed it to make sound by itself."
Agreed. It's pretty, but...
On Looney Tunes, when Bugs Bunny plays the piano, he actually hits the right keys to make the sounds that you hear. The cartoons were made for kids, but the animators made sure to get it right. That sets the bar, and Lego missed it. It's an attractive model, but it shouldn't be marketed to adults if Lego is going to settle for a "playable" feature with preschool-level functionality.
Assuming Lego wasn't interested in adding piano wire to their parts catalog, they should have at least put in enough sensors to have one octave play correctly through the app.
Incredible! I must get this, despite its price as I’m a pianist myself.
@vader11 said:
"Seriously though. Why would they make a piano in this scale. This is bigger than even the modular buildings. I expect this would be in a small or medium scale at most and cost less than $50. Not $350. Another bad decision from Lego. People would get a real or an electric one if they want to play music. There are way better and bigger sets than this and cost cheaper."
It's not meant to be placed inside a modular building, I suppose.
I really love it and have to order it Day 1. It's a fantastic and impressive build. I hadn't seen the Ideas submission but this looks incredible.
This personally doesn’t interest me but I am curious; did the original Ideas submission provide the ability to hit the individual keys and produce a unique music note? It doesn’t appear so to me from the Ideas page, so what were people expecting LEGO to do?
Cool, but at that price, no way. I don't have that kind of dough.
This is a centrepiece, not a set.
Absolutely stunning, as someone who does not play an instrument, the depth and beauty of this piece means it just made my purchase list.
The comments around 'does the set make a noise' are hilarious and if you want to make a sound, buy a cheap keyboard, non-problem solved.
@Angel_Clanger said:
"Was very intrigued by this set, then discovered two things that instantly put me off: 1) It works with an App, :-( & 2) The price - Way too much... Really should have just made this a beautiful model of a Grand Piano and not effectively doubled the price adding the (gimmicky) piano player / app based novelty stuff in there. For not much over the £320 price tag you can buy a full size 88-note weighted digital piano."
I'm not trying to be a smart aleck but do you know for the price of the Lego Lamborghini one can actually buy four real tires for a car?
This is not intended to be an alternative to an actual musical instrument. And I am not singling you out; I have read the same sentiment in many comments on this and other sites. I honestly find it bizarre. Are people expecting the soon-to-be-released Lego Nintendo console to play games? Will they denigrate it or buy and return it when it doesn't?
This is an impressive model, but prohibitively expensive for me (musician's budget, better spent on sheet music I'm afraid). While the Powered Up components are interesting, there's a missed opportunity to incorporate MIDI compatibility, which would vastly increase the availability of music for it, while making it possible for people to make a somewhat more future-proof app.
I for one would have been more interested in a smaller, more detailed, and perhaps modular action, which could be used as a display piece, teaching tool, and all-around fascinating moving object, while allowing a much lower cost.
All that being said, I love the golden "LEGO" tile on the front, and will absolutely be purchasing a few of those on Bricks and Pieces!
@NathanR2015 said:
"Wow, this is beyond my expectations! I figured they would just give us the mechanism of a piano, not the actual ability to make music!
I am still intrigued as to how the smartphone app works - how can the phone possibly recognise which keys have been pressed so that you can "play a tune yourself"?
And what's the sensor used for inside the piano body? Is it allowing the piano to recognise when pedals are pressed, so the app changes the piano tones?
I am eagerly awaiting the reviews. And maybe a lottery win, so I can afford to buy this beauty."
The app does not recognize individual keys, only that you have pressed any key. So it can only play pre-defined songs. Same with playback (player piano mode) -- it moves random keys, not the actual keys from the notes.
Looks like a truly stunning set, the fit and finish looks second to none. I’ll have to start saving!!! I want the NES too.
For $45 you can add 3 more color sensors. Add the six colors the sensors can detect to the keys and you have the ability for the app to play the correct notes!
The price doesn't sound quite so steep at £250 plus the Powered Up bits. Thankfully, from the pictures, the hub and motor appear to be very easily removable, so can be put to good use powering the NES display once the piano's found it's permanent home on a display shelf!
@CC_0397 said:
" @ChocolateCrisps said:
"From the article on The Brothers Brick (https://www.brothers-brick.com/2020/07/23/lego-ideas-21323-grand-piano-makes-music-starting-aug-1st-news/), it's clear that this set can't actually detect which key you're pressing, but just responds to any key press when producing the music.
"The piano can be played in either a “user play” toy piano mode (where hitting any key produces the next note in a selected song) or in an “auto-play” mode (where the piano moves randomized keys while the app produces music like a player piano).""
Disappointing..."
But understandable. To make it fully playable they would have to create very set-specific piece with buttons for every key that would then merge input into one message sent over one wire to the hub.
Using separate buttons would be very problematic - for example you wouldn't be able to fit 25 wires inside this thing in the first place.
IMO, from engineering perspective the best way to achieve it would be to create a LEGO camera piece - it would be very versatile, for example in case of this piano set you could detect hammers positions using computer vision algorithms.
But there is a problem: Powered UP Hub only supports bluetooth, you would need Wi-Fi to transfer video to your phone, also I doubt Powered UP cables are designed to handle high-bandwidth data like video.
Overall it seems to me that this Powered UP thing is not that well thought out and is not future proof.
@CCC said:
"It is a two octave keyboard that is just under a foot wide. I'd say that is very toy-sized. Most toy keyboards aimed at under 10s are about that size. Of course the build itself is aimed at adults, but the result is very toy like in scale."
I stand corrected!
@387Brick said:
"Yes it does, according to The Brothers Brick. It says "The Grand Piano comes with a motor, smart hub, and sensor used to connect to the LEGO Powered Up app which creates the sound." https://www.brothers-brick.com/2020/07/23/lego-ideas-21323-grand-piano-makes-music-starting-aug-1st-news/"
Thanks for the information!
I was always pretty sure this set would be priced above what I'd be willing to pay for it, though I didn't think it would be quite as far above as it is. Oddly enough, the "three-key cross-section" that the still from the teaser suggested tempts me far more than this entire set. If I can get a copy of the instructions I would like to try and MOC something like that. I also will be intrigued to see if someone finds a way for the Powered Up components to identify a specific note while keeping the "piano" the same size. But the bottom line for me is that, although it's a magnificient creation, it didn't manage the final step that might have justified the price for me. There are better places for me to spend my limited Lego budget.
I remember when lego had a sale on the Ninjago City Docks, it was something like £140, I think? I brought that set then, although I felt a bit annoyed when I saw it on amazon a day later for even cheaper.
I might be hoping in vain, but if lego or anyone else do a good discount on this, then I would get it.
I just think that they could have done this for much less. I wasn't expecting a workable piano when I saw the result of the Ideas review, and I would be happy with one that does not have the ability to make the keys move, with or without the technic or power functions or app ability to make it so.
There are some lego ideas sets that have turned out really well and at a good value, and some that could have been improved upon to keep to the original. I was surprised by the outcome of the Pirates of Barracuda Bay, the set was a lot different from the original, and I was expecting it to be more expensive than it was.
This is a set that I will wait for, until the price is discounted. I may wait in vain, but that's my loss.
@Davian said:
I'm not trying to be a smart aleck but do you know for the price of the Lego Lamborghini one can actually buy four real tires for a car?
I didnt know a lamborghini was just 4 tires....
@Davian said:
"I'm not trying to be a smart aleck but do you know for the price of the Lego Lamborghini one can actually buy four real tires for a car?"
The price of the Lego Lamborghini would have bought me 23 of the 1st real car I bought (although that was quite some time ago!).
Lovely set, excellent execution of the idea and of absolutely zero interest for me.
@ChocolateCrisps said:
"From the article on The Brothers Brick (https://www.brothers-brick.com/2020/07/23/lego-ideas-21323-grand-piano-makes-music-starting-aug-1st-news/), it's clear that this set can't actually detect which key you're pressing, but just responds to any key press when producing the music.
"The piano can be played in either a “user play” toy piano mode (where hitting any key produces the next note in a selected song) or in an “auto-play” mode (where the piano moves randomized keys while the app produces music like a player piano).""
The whole thing falls down by this; it's a very expensive piece of kit with a play-along function more suitable for a interactive toy for a two-year-old.
I like the idea of all the operating levers and linkages- it'd be a great silent automaton for about half the price if the depth of the piano body was reduced by half and the electronics was got rid of.
Not that I'm that bothered, I'm never likely to pay more than £120 for a LEGO model. The whole psychology of paying huge amounts of money for stuff like this must be an internet phenomenon.
I guess once you've spent a lot of money on one really desirable set, you've passed a mental barrier and go on to buy more stuff: a bit like gambling.
I wonder if anybody's done a study.
night one for me !
@sjr60 said:
" @Davian said:
"I'm not trying to be a smart aleck but do you know for the price of the Lego Lamborghini one can actually buy four real tires for a car?"
The price of the Lego Lamborghini would have bought me 23 of the 1st real car I bought (although that was quite some time ago!)."
Agreed, I've bought at least three cars for less than that, but there again I've seen bicycles for sale for more than three times that.
There are people around with a lot of disposable income.
In the very early days of Ideas, people would propose entire themes and submit prototypes for sets at several price points. After a while, Lego changed the rules so you could only submit proposals for a single set, with anything similar released wholly at their discretion. In response, some Ideas builders began to submit projects that are like Assault on Hoth: nominally one set, but really a grab bag of several. That is emphatically NOT the case with the piano (it's one magnificent proposal and one magnificent set!), but I think it might have helped here. Methinks Lego could produce one smaller set that's just a section of keyboard to show off the mechanism without losing any sales from the top of the line full piano.
@CCC said:
" @Montyh7 said:
"This is a centrepiece, not a set.
Absolutely stunning, as someone who does not play an instrument, the depth and beauty of this piece means it just made my purchase list.
The comments around 'does the set make a noise' are hilarious and if you want to make a sound, buy a cheap keyboard, non-problem solved."
I agree they would be hilarious if this was marketed as a model of a piano. However, Lego are describing this as a playable piano. The description makes it sound like you can play it, when in reality it is a single button that plays the next note of predefined tunes on your phone in manual mode and in automatic mode then random keys go up and down as your phone plays some music. That is not a playable piano."
Ok - So Lego have said...
Experience the hands-on pleasure of creating a highly sophisticated LEGO concert piano model and then play beautiful music with it.
"Designed with the intricate elements of a real grand piano, this brand-new set is a fully immersive build. "
"With a clever motor and working keys, when the set is combined with the LEGO Powered Up app, fans can become musical maestros one brick and one note at a time - making it The LEGO Group’s first-ever piano set with the ability to play music."
So they are QUITE clear, in fact go to pains to exactly describe how the music is created, but from all of that you took one sentence and what, just didn't read the rest, or thought context wasn't relevant, or that Lego has printed random words that didn't need to be read? I am honestly not sure how one earth, you can, with a straight face, focus on one sentence among all that, and say "describing this as a playable piano" - is incorrect. The piano is absolutely playable in conjunction with the app, which they have made extraordinarily clear, by spelling it out once again...
"Talented builders can try their hand at creating their own masterpiece on the LEGO Ideas Grand Piano using the LEGO Powered Up app, which allows them full control of the musical notes and piano keys."
You may not like the set, but to say they have said something when they clearly not, which you could only do by focusing on one sentence among many (why have context !!!) , seems even more hilarious than I initially thought.
@Montyh7 : Sorry but to me "full control of the musical notes and piano keys" is not the same as pressing any key at random to hear the next predefined note of a song.
@MrClassic
I am so confused by the lack of context in your point, they never say it is. The complete sentence clearly places the App as the subject of the sentence, so it is the app that allows full control of the musical notes and keys.
"Talented builders can try their hand at creating their own masterpiece on the LEGO Ideas Grand Piano using the LEGO Powered Up app, which allows them full control of the musical notes and piano keys"
I am sure you can hit the keys on the piano, but is not what is giving you the 'piano' sound. Again, this may not be what you want in a set, but they are in no way misleading you. Those are two very different things.
@Montyh7 : I'm perfectly aware that it's the app that creates the sound you hear, that's not my point. The point is that the press release makes it seem like you can play the piano like a real piano with the app even though you can't - which Lego Design Lead Sam Johnson has confirmed in an interview with The Brothers Brick.
Didn't know where to start.
There are better ways to spend EUR350 on Lego
There are better ways to spend EUR350 on musical instruments.
This is a waste of money.
What I would have bought:
* For this price: a piano model that makes real musical sound (custom-sized xylophone style blocks instead of piano string are fine)
* A stunning looking piano model on a smaller scale at a much lower price.
I wonder why there are less discussions about price tag for the Lego Lamborghini set versus this one. This set is having higher piece count with slightly lower price than the Lamborghini. However I'm struggling too (as many) to see the value of this set. I'm not those that do not know about music instruments, I do have a real upright piano at home.
Being a music lover, I would see this set from a musicality perspective (more artistic wise and not technical wise). Thus I'd expect this set to be bigger for display and for appreciation purpose, while the playable feature doesn't excite me for a single bit because I could do a 25 keys piano playing from any other 50 euro toys or from my phone if wished. I don't need to see how sophisticated the internal mechanism is. But maybe for some this can be interesting.
So I guess my conclusion is that if the price is set as it is, the set should feel grander than the name suggests.
I don't think this is a good idea for a set. It's $350 for a toy piano that doesn't even function like a real one. Now, Lego can sell you a toy Lamborghini for $350, but that's different, because most people can't afford a real Lamborghini, and a lot of the audience for that set is the 12-16 year old demographic who isn't old enough to drive anyway. I don't think pianos evoke nearly the same emotions as Lamborghinis. There is a critical fantasy/escapist aspect to Lego that is missing here: maybe it's a world that cannot exist like Ninjago, or a world that may have existed at one time, like Modular, or a explicitly fictional world, like Harry Potter, but this is none of those.
"This product isn't for you." - Mark Rosewater
@guachi said:
"I would rather have had the cute little fish tank.
On the other hand, my 2020 Lego want list is noticeably smaller than prior years. So Lego is saving me money!
Thanks, Lego!"
Same here. It's becoming high price set overkill. The more they throw on the market, the fewer I want.
I still haven't even bought the Book Store, let alone the Tree House or the Barracuda Bay. And those are the only three high price sets I am currently really interested in. Perhaps around Brick Friday in November. Or when there is some other sizable discount to be had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUNOmN3YVL0&t=14
At under half the price of an ugly load of grey bricks it's quite a bargain really!
A beautiful and stunning creation, unfortunately after seeing that price, will most likely never have the opportunity to own or build.
Sold out here in the US in one day... missed out on it as I didn't remember to order on Aug 1... now they currently aren't even accepting backorders! Wildly popular set.