Justice for Wario

It says that pink Yoshi is an antagonist, you might wanna change that, in the videogames he's a rideable little friend

L is real 2401

Also, Yoshi aren't antagonists (except cases of specific unique characters on the Mario RPG games). They are allies of the Mushroom Kingdom.

"Now there are two!"
"We should not have made this bargain."

Mamma mia!

As a big fan of the 71360, this is right up my alley, can't wait to see what other sets come out, assuming there will be a few power up packs and another series of Character Packs plus four or five expansion sets and rumours are there is another Nintendo D2C as well not sure what it is though.

Wonder what suits he will have, as he can't really use the Mario suits cause they have Mario's M on them. I mean he 100% can use them but just would look weird with the M instead of the L

So that's what was about that last LEGO update I heard about that made LEGO Mario call out to Luigi, and I thought it was a slept SCP that awoke somehow.

Now prepare for the people still whining about there being no minifigures.

This looks great! Luigi is exciting, but so is Boom Boom (a great "mini-boss" option). And I'm especially excited for pink Yoshi! That's been my Smash main since Melee!

Give me a Mario minifigure series and I will be content for the rest of my days...

But it looks like Mario put on the wrong clothes. Doesn’t really look like Luigi...

Cool! It looks like they made a new mould to make him taller than Mario, which is nice.

Still holding out hope for official Nintendo minifigures at some point.

I don't think it's going to end well if Luigi tries to ride that Yoshi.

I'm wondering if there'll be any way for Luigi and Mario to interact. I'm also wondering what that gray thing is; presumably you can stand Luigi on it and "fly" him around like the similar device in the Mario pack. Interesting construction whatever it is, with the corner bricks and the splat gear.
If it isn't to expensive, I'm tempted to get it, especially if Luigi can interact with Mario; I also want that pink Yoshi and Boom Boom. I have a Bone Goomba, but I don't think you can have too many Goombas.

@Snaz said:
" @Nytmare said:
"Will Luigi work on the Nintendo TV set, the way Mario does?"

Probably. My guess is it's the same software in a different mold"

Probably the same hardware, at the very least. Luigi probably has different voice lines but I wouldn't be surprised if even that's an internal setting in the software that could be be switched if you were to hack into it somehow.

Speaking of software, some other changes seen in the alternate pics on Amazon include recognition for Medium Nougat "bridges" as a distinct biome like the blue water, green fields, yellow deserts, red lava, and purple poison.

Luigi probably works with the same power-up packs too, though I kind of hope they release some of those specifically for him, just to resolve some of the visual differences (like the "L" on Fire Luigi's cap, Cat Luigi's green coat, or Tanooki Luigi's Kitsune-based design). We probably won't see those sorts of things as standalone releases (a whole additional set of SKUs for Luigi specifically would probably be excessive), but maybe they could release a "combo pack" of sorts with four or five of Luigi's transformations.

For all those wondering what point there was in making a Luigi, this is the point. They now have two starter sets, which takes the pressure off supplies of the former (and allows them to retire it at some point without killing sales of the rest of the theme). It also means that two siblings can have their own character and be able to tell them apart.

@julianbricks:
It's a fair complaint, though. Every show my LUG does has a Town/Train display. Some have other minifig themes, and some even have non-minifig displays, but Town/Train is what gets us in the door most places. Kids would love to see Mario, Luigi, and other characters driving karts around the layout, but trying to do it with these would just look ridiculous on a minifig layout.

There's no reason they can't keep doing the game and release a few minifig sets as well. Minecraft did something similar, and it turned out the minifig sets sold so much better than the micro-scale stuff that they quickly abandoned that line. I suspect their main concern is that, if they do this, and it proves successful enough, it may scuttle sales of the game. Nintendo may not be interested in floating a straight minifig-based Mario theme, so that may also keep it off the table.

Oh, the green Mario as my dad used to say.

@PurpleDave said:
"For all those wondering what point there was in making a Luigi, this is the point. They now have two starter sets, which takes the pressure off supplies of the former (and allows them to retire it at some point without killing sales of the rest of the theme). It also means that two siblings can have their own character and be able to tell them apart.

@julianbricks:
It's a fair complaint, though. Every show my LUG does has a Town/Train display. Some have other minifig themes, and some even have non-minifig displays, but Town/Train is what gets us in the door most places. Kids would love to see Mario, Luigi, and other characters driving karts around the layout, but trying to do it with these would just look ridiculous on a minifig layout.

There's no reason they can't keep doing the game and release a few minifig sets as well. Minecraft did something similar, and it turned out the minifig sets sold so much better than the micro-scale stuff that they quickly abandoned that line. I suspect their main concern is that, if they do this, and it proves successful enough, it may scuttle sales of the game. Nintendo may not be interested in floating a straight minifig-based Mario theme, so that may also keep it off the table."

I expect that if they ever do minifigure-based sets, they might do that next year to tie in with the upcoming Super Mario Bros. movie being produced by Illumination. Movie-based sets would not necessarily have to be designed around gameplay mechanics, after all.

It would not surprise me if Lego acquiring this theme when they did had to do with that movie to begin with. You can often see a pattern in Lego licenses where they're acquired and built up in advance of a major movie release—Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and Pirates of the Caribbean all did that with a wave or two of sets based on earlier installments in the series before releasing a big wave of sets to tie in with the "return" of those long-running series to theaters. The Super Mario theme has had a bit more of a head start than those (partly due to the delay of the movie), but nevertheless you can bet that that movie was on Lego's radar when they were deciding whether to make a theme based on the franchise, and it may have helped to tip the scales toward their somewhat rare acquisition of a license based on a video game.

@Brickodillo said:
"Fat Luigi! I hope this one isn’t too expensive because i want it, and i hope i can play at the same time with my daughter (as Mario).
But the build doesn’t really have the purple poison lake feel to me. Too little vegetation. However Boomboom is really nice! A different colour Yoshi was to be expected of course and is always welcome. Does that bones goomba have different legs? I don’t have it yet from the bags series"

I assume it will be the same price as the Mario set, going by the Chinese price, piece count and box size. Can't see why it will be any more than Mario.

So that's £49.99 / $59.99 / 59.99 euros / CA$ 69.99 / AU$ 89.99 etc

YEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH BOOOOIIIIIIII!!! Luigi number 1!
I can’t wait to find out what kind of cool interactions the bro’s can have together!

@NickLafreniere1 said:
"Correction for Huw: Luigi is not Mario's Twin, he is the younger brother of the two."

From one huge Luigi fan to another, Nintendo is sometimes pretty vague as to the specifics of their sibling-ness. Sometimes they are referred to as either. Notably, the stork in Yoshi’s Island is delivering both babies at the same time, implying they’d be twins with Luigi being the younger twin.

I wonder if we would get a Princess Peach set down the line, that could be cool! Although I can't say I'm certain she would translate as well to the blocky figure look as well as Mario/Luigi have.

@PurpleDave said:
" @Lyichir:
That's some appropriately warped logic, right there. We were fully aware that a new SW trilogy was on the horizon long before they even announced a LEGO Star Wars license, and the theme didn't actually launch until a few months before the movie released. Likewise with PotC, the second movie clearly pointed to a threequel before we saw any sets. Indiana Jones was only released when a fourth movie had already started filming. Even LotR had to wait until The Hobbit trilogy started.

Then look at Mario. The theme is already a year old, and reportedly had a much longer development time than normal, starting all the way back in 2015 with an eye on releasing last year for the 35th anniversary of the original game. This is the first I've heard of a new Mario film, but it didn't get started until 2018, with an expected 2022 release date. The two clearly have nothing to do with each other based on the timing, but if the movie does actually happen, I could see them waiting until them to release a minifig theme. By then the game might be starting to get played out, while a movie release could provide a huge boost to sales. They would still need to work out a licensing deal with the studio, if they want to tie directly in to the movie, but they could just as easily do like they've done for the X-Men under Disney's Fox embargo, and make the theme generic, tying in to the rich history of video games rather than the movie."

I'm not sure what you mean by "appropriately warped"... should I take offense?

Like, you're right that given the theme's development time I probably was wrong about the movie being a deciding factor there. But I have little doubt that given the success of the theme Lego is likely to be licensing it as well, not just because of the success of this theme but also because of Lego recently partnering with Illumination for the first time for the Minions theme (a good precedent if they want to continue working with them). And a series of sets to tie in with the movie does feel like it'd be a good avenue for more "traditional" figs based on the theme.

Oh no... Mario really is dead... And look at Luigi's beard stubble, he must be depressed.

@TheBrickPal:
Buying trends in Germany apparently vary quite a bit from the rest of the world, as there's some backlash there over the shift away from German tastes. They used to be the largest consumer-nation of LEGO product in the world until 1999 brought Star Wars to the table. As new markets overtake old ones, it only makes sense to cater to the bigger market. For smaller markets, they were never in the limelight, so maybe some of them like the changes, while others prefer the way things were. When you were the darling of the company, however, it's a hard shift to experience, and it's far more likely that the entire market will be of one opinion on the matter.

@TheBrickPal said:
" @AustinPowers Where do you get the impression that Adventures with Mario is a shelf warmer? Because it was very hard to find at first, and LEGO themselves said that the theme has had an incredibly successful launch."
I have close connections with several toy store owners over here. From what they tell me I get very good and reliable information regarding what sells and what doesn't (not only in terms of LEGO by the way).
Also I know lots of AFOBs as well as kids from various age groups via our kids' friends, our relatives and their friends, etc.
Of course even all those people are only anecdotal evidence, but none of the kids mentioned have ANY of the Mario sets, and from what the shop owners tell me the theme is a dud in terms of sales and needs to be heavily discounted to move at all.

From a personal perspective, I have bought a couple of the smaller sets from Amazon, all at between 40 and 60% off. Would they need to be that heavily discounted if they were good sellers?

@PurpleDave : indeed. Plus there is the problem in the image department LEGO as a company has in Germany of late. Every new shitstorm has garnered more media attention, even reaching national news by now. I notice that in reactions I witness from parents who know of my fondness for bricks and therefore ask me for my views and sometimes advice on what to buy. A question that pops up frequently in recent times is what alternative companies I could recommend as they don't want to support LEGO (the company) anymore. Go figure.

One last piece of, again anecdotal, evidence: when I was a kid, a toy store basically had two huge displays when it came to products for "play worlds". Those two were LEGO and Playmobil.
Nowadays, Playmobil has kept its status in that regard with no comparable alternatives in sight, whereas LEGO in many stores now shares its former space with other brick brands. It started small a few years ago with MegaBloks, then came Cobi, and by now it is not even unusual anymore to find some of the more unknown brands like CaDa, Xingbao or Gudi (which Lidl sells under their Playtive brand).

The irony is, I personally quite like some of the Mario sets (either as cool parts packs or for the happy memories they evoke of my days playing Mario on the NES), but not at their highly overpriced RRP. It's similar to Vidiyo, which could have at least some appeal, had it not been so ridiculously overpriced.