LEGO Ideas: the results are in!

For me it was the best together with the wallace and gromit but I preferred the wallace and gromit .

Oh so no money from me :D
Obviously its another water testing

Its a nice lighthouse but it doesn't float my boat. I was hoping for Wallace and Gromit, Starbug or the Viking Village but alas it was not to be. I guess I just saved myself, probably between £89.99 and £119.99 for the lighthouse.

I know that it has basically zero chance, but the recent announcement of Metroid Dread (and the subsequent positive online response and relatively high pre-order sales) gives me an unexpected very tiny hope for Samus' Gunship in the next round.

Not counting on it happening though

@Iwanex I suspected they picked that because a) it doesn't need any licensing and b) rejecting every single project would go down poorly with most Lego fans. Or so they assume.

"Red Dwarf, even though the latter will likely not rank very high outside the UK”

Isn’t this the second Red Dwarf set to make an Ideas review and not get through? I doubt even in the UK it’d be any more than a niche set, let alone overseas. When even the Doctor Who set bombed, it’s hard to think of any other BBC property that’d get Lego keen to include it in the Ideas range.

Awesome! I love this idea! Although I'm afraid about the price...

Huh, did not expect that after we already have a Creator and Hidden Side light house. And the Fishing store also has a kind of light house tower structure.

Too bad about Wallace & Gromit :/ Is that another Bag End I see in the next review phase? Here's hoping a large amount of LotR projects will get the theme revived! (Even if a new Bag End isn't exactly what I need, as the old one is perfect)

The lighthouse was by far my favourite from this selection, glad to see it win.
Hoping the final design also included a nice piece of landscaping like here, that isn't just the bare minimum.
Looking forward to seeing the final set :)

Disappointing yes, but not all that surprising.

I love lighthouses, but unless they change it to minifig scale (which I highly doubt) it will be a pass from me. I already have the last Creator 3-in-1 lighthouse, plus a bunch of extra pieces to expand its dimensions and make the lighthouse tower itself habitable by minifigures.

I assume they'll maintain the microscale. At minifigure scale I would have been interested, thought it would have been expensive.

This was probably one of the sets I was interested in. I will likely be purchasing this when available.

@MigzDabs said:
"It's unforgivably lazy from a brand perspective that none of the licensed themes from this review period passed. Why make one-off sets like Sesame Street or Winnie the Pooh instead of things like the Last Airbender, Gravity Falls, or Spirited Away/Ghibli that have the potential to grow into full lines that have been demanded for years? Central Perk, Barracuda Bay and the Blacksmith shop are the only recent ideas sets that feel like they're meeting an actual demand and not just LEGO cherry-picking statement sets they think will draw outside attention to the brand. Wow a lighthouse"

Yes, I also don't understand. I seem to recall a news article on an interview from someone stating they are SPECIFICALLY looking for ideas that they can spin off to a series, like Minecraft. I don't get it. Lego definitely seems to play it safe a lot, only occasionally taking some risks.

Such a wait… such a waste! I think we used to get the results late May, early June… and now this unexpected, single (!) choice…

So far there's no 2022 Ideas set that interests me: after 2021's Seinfeld and Home Alone House, I guess I'll have to wait until 2023 to see another nice Ideas set (except for the GWPs).

LEGO sure loves a lighthouse. Like others have said, unless it becomes minifig scale, I wouldn’t be interested.

Sad that Wallace & Gromit didn’t get through and even the Garbage Truck would’ve been fantastic.

Hopefully the Classic Castle will move on to the AFOL designer program (like Castle in the Forest)

Thank you, TLG, my bank account needs an extended break. If there was a time to release 2 or 3 in one round, I figured this would have been it, given the size of the garbage truck and the Milwaukee Art Museum.

Don't need another lighthouse - combining two of the 31051 was enough for me.

Not for me

All these ideas models are weak (only Bag End is great) but this is a crap :(

Meh. Another boring building, even if it does have a rotating light! Was hoping for Wallace & Gromit. Nevermind

This frickin sucks. Nuff said.

Great set, congratulations to the designer! Unfortunately I can’t really afford all these large sets

I guess it's cool, but I'm kind of disappointed. This is probably going to be very expensive. Depending on what the final result will be, I'll most likely pass.

Ok, i will take the winnie house 21326 and built a viking 71027-8 house in it, and maybe a village around ;)

I like it, it not being minifig scale means it’ll sort of be at a forced perspective so it looks far away from my Lego city.

The lighthouse is a very strong pick IMO. It looks good enough on its own to be an impulse buy, but it is also a strong pickup for City fans and Pirates fans.

Definitely a pass for me if they stick with microscale, but I might pick it up if they bump the figures up to minifig size.

@BrickToBasics said:
" @vzarmo said:
" @BrickToBasics said:
" @TeriXeri said:
"Motorized and likely non-minifig scale , means it's going to be another overpriced display toy like the Piano.

I will change my mind if it ends up Minifig Scale, and optimizes parts use."

What exactly does "optimizes parts use" mean? Also, is there something wrong with non-minifig-scale builds?"

I would say, with minifig scale it means more playability and because of that more people wanna put it in their city or diorama. And it gives you more opportunity to build a moc from it.

"

If New Elementary has taught us anything, it's that the pieces in a set don't limit what mocs you can build from it. And that still doesn't really explain it. Have there ever been sets that *didn't* optimize their parts use? What does that even mean?

So the Marble Maze doesn't have playability because it isn't minifig scale? You can't swoosh microscale or macroscale spaceships? Do you need the lil plastic dudes to play with something? Seems like a weird argument"

If a set is full with “special” type of bricks what are useful in special cases , well have fun to make a good moc from it. Or maybe it’s full with panels etcetc.
And good luck to tell a kid, they can’t put their figs in it, cause it just doesn’t fit without heavy modification.
For example treehouse is a perfect example. It looks gorgeous alone too, kids can play with it easily and the part selection is good too because you can buy the set just for the parts. Most of them are useful.
If you want another this time bad example, just look the newer city sets with their huge panels.

Hoping they include extra pieces to make a greyscale version :)

Makes sense even though I'm disappointed that we won't get a Roman Warship.
The Light House was also my top pick. Would be a nice display piece.

The Colosseum was a waste to put in there, since the big one is still out. A couple years down the road when the big one is retired, a smaller/less expensive Colosseum would be something people would get.
Bag-End didn't make sense either. Unless tied it into a new anniversary/legacy line.
That Police Station as well didn't make sense to put in. Already a good modular one out.
That Castle also in the why bother category with the new Creator one just released.
The rest except for The Viking Village are models that wouldn't sell enough I feel.

Now that next round has some exciting models!
My picks...
- Tutankhamen's bust
- Steampunk Airship
- The Office (but you need so much to make it a full set (you'd have to do the annex too) to get all the characters, so it'd be like the FRIENDS set up I guess?).
- Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
- Ancient Greek Temple
- Viking Longship (to rival the great one Mega Construx did)
- Marine Life
- Bowling Alley
My top one I hope they make is the Astronaught

Thinking about it, regarding The Office, they should just make a CMF line instead.
So many of the characters have different looks you can do multiple series.
Imagine all the Dwight's and Michael's characters!

I wanted the bag end soooo bad

Must admit I do like something which draws on somebodies imagination rather than just replicating an established theme or licensing opportunity. Must be my age I guess but when I saw 'Ghibli' mentioned as a potential set I was thinking of a classic Lamborghini...

I had hoped it would be a bit more, but at least it's one of the projects i was interested in.

^ My thoughts too. I liked the lighthouse, and my mom loves lighthouses, but I figured at least a -couple- more would make the cut. Oh well, as usual, the internal rules for qualification remain a mystery.

Although my young brother would have loved Among Us, and I wanted the viking or roman sets, I love that lighthouse. I hope they keep the colors mostly the same. It would look gorgeous next to the Old Fishing Store.

I thought the idea of this set was very good. My issue with it is that proportionally it looks very off to me. Will be interesting to see how Lego alters it for production. Depending on the final outcome I reserve judgement as to whether or not it is something I will purchase.

A very nice model, perhaps one of many Lego lighthouses, but I think it’s the first more realistic and in line with modern Creator Expert / 18+ (microfig scale aside). Hope the final product will be as good as the original submission.
And it’s a pity they reject so many projects now regularly...

Real-world lighthouses around the world come in so many different shapes, sizes, patterns, and colors. Since there are so many great designs around the world to draw inspiration from, I really hoped that the next Lego lighthouse would be something more interesting than a cylindrical tower.

It was expected, the other ones were already mad/had a version of it, or were just too niche.

What will sell it for me is if they will match with "21310 - Old Fishing Store" with colours and scale, otherwise I'll skip it most likely. I hope it won't be as large as the Vestas.

My initial reaction very often to the Idea's results is disappointment, but then I realize that Lego is saving me money by not picking the sets I want.

@DOLEGO1986 said:
"Will this be minifigure scale?

Would be a great addition to those who own the 21310 Old Fishing Store."

Hadn't thought of that. Your comment made this set sound much more interesting. :)

Disappointed, but not surprised.
Happy for the designer, though.

Congrats to the winner! I would have preferred the Roman warship (in fact there should be a ancient civilisations theme) but I'll survive. Besides, I gave up my right to complain or be disappointed by completely stopping following or voting on the Ideas program - too much aggravation for no good reasons. (I just read the results and eventually Huw's review when the set comes out).

My only ray of hope (if such thing is even possible with Lego) is to think that many projects were rejected this time around because they plan on doing a few in the upcoming round (which, to me, is just a treasure trove of fantastic ideas).

Let's just hope they do something nice out of this. We have been surprised in the past i.e. (POBB) 21322. Usually the ground takes a beating when translated from proposal to finished model. If this lighthouse sits on a flat ground, that will be a tragedy. As always, I will be looking from afar for new parts (not allowed apparently but then we had Winnie the Pooh) and recolours.

Lego Lord of the Rings never got enough attention. I really wanted a display piece. Oh well. That's the way things go.

@craiggrannell said:
" it’s hard to think of any other BBC property that’d get Lego keen to include it in the Ideas range."
While it wasn‘t in the ideas range, they did make an (IMO overpriced and generally sucky) TopGear car in Technics. Granted, that show is rather well-known also outside the UK though. I’d say there would be many more interesting BBC properties to chose from but alas it seems Ideas is reserved for US sitcoms…

In other news and back on topic: congrats to the designer of the lighthouse - I honestly can‘t understand how that got through.
To me the scale of it is just wrong somehow, and I hope that Lego either make it minifig size (similiar to the Vestas wind turbine) that would allow integration in a city/landscape or make it smaller like architecture models.

Maybe it's time Lego Ideas increase the cutoff vote to 20,000?

Surprised by the choice. I thought it would be the Roman Ship, even though I have no interest in that. I'm not really interested in the lighthouse, but it'll depend on the final version.

Well, at first glance it doesn’t seem to be asset I would buy, but maybe LEGO will make a more interesting model out of it. To bad they choose a lighthouse which has already been done in city and creator formats. I would have liked the Roman warship or the Gravity Falls house. Very curious what will become of the next batch of 57(!) projects…

So... yay for the lighthouse, which I'll probably pick up depending on the price...

But I'm guessing that even though the next review will have 57(!) sets, we'll still only see one, maybe two. Kind of disappointing but I guess it is what it is.

@DOLEGO1986 said:
"Will this be minifigure scale?

Would be a great addition to those who own the 21310 Old Fishing Store."
That was my second thought as well (my first was "Why no Wallace and Gromit?").
But as I hadn't gotten my hopes up in the first place, I am not really disappointed.
Depending on how the final set turns out I might even consider buying it, to accompany my Old Fishing Store and associated buildings.

The only thing I really HATE about the whole process is that the designers don't give reasons WHY the rejected projects were rejected.
Until they start explaining that I will stop caring about these reviews and about Ideas in general. It's just not worth my time or interest anymore, to be honest.

I am curious about what they are going to do with the lighthouse to make it special because I'm not sure that 'motorised' is enough to get it to sell on shop shelves. They must have seen a spark of something special to make it more than just a building on a rock though I'm not seeing any more than a fairly plain lighthouse build, nicely done. Also, the cost of the Powered Up motor will surely make this disproportionately expensive for the functionality it will add.

I guess it must be difficult to be the designer of the model selected when so many people are responding negatively. I would be feeling glad to have got the project approved but also downhearted at seeing a lot of AFOLs criticising the idea.

I'm really not surprised. I had it ranked tied (with Venice) for 5th most likely. The main reason I didn't rank it higher was that Lego has done SO MANY lighthouses before. (Maybe they sell well and that's why they keep doing them?) If Lego hadn't done lighthouses before, I'd probably have ranked it 2nd or 3rd. (I thought the GMC trucks and garbage truck were most likely.)

Although, my heartfelt condolences to TX Master Games. I'm sure the people who voted for that (who likely signed up ONLY to vote for that and never bought Lego Ideas sets before) were convinced they would win.

My prediction for this set (which I made when the original list of sets was published in January) is that Lego will reduce the base size and make the set minifigure scale.

@Resistian said:
"Really sad the garbage truck didn't win, it had a great play function."

But now LEGO can make one themselves without paying anything to the one behind the IDEAS submission, I was hoping for the Gravity Falls project to be honest.

@ALFIE22 said:
"sad wallace and gromit didn't make it, but i can only be thankful among us isn't going to be a lego set"

Fingers crossed for the among us idea next review period!!

I'm excited to see how this one turns out, though a little wary of the potential price tag! Hopefully the motorized light is more than just a turntable for your phone with the flashlight on...

I was certain that the Avatar: The Last Airbender set would be greenlit, if not the one from the previous review. What does LEGO not see in it? I'm sure it would've sold like hotcakes.

It is hypocritical from TLG to release modular Police Station and Coloseum when you have them in lego.ideas

Old Fishing Store - mini figure scale, and this is a micro figure scale. I don't think they will look good together.

with star wars sets and the way they have been displaying them/ I'm surprized roman ship didnt get picked. Viking village would of sold I'd be curious how many viking sets they sold.... hmmm.

Not a bad choice IMO. I might be interested especially if they can make it minifig-compatible without making it too expensive.

I would have loved to see Bag End or Venice though.

I always seem to forget about the IDEAS review period.

This one, I would have loved the Mystery (s)hack since I watched that show with my daughter. But the rest, I was nonplussed about.

I would say they should pick what is most viable to sell, considering they are a business...however, how many lighthouses do we need? I guess this one at least moves, but it isn't that thrilling, so will it matter?

I'll take a break from IDEAS either way, so I guess that works out for me. Hopefully everyone else that loves the set will buy it.

No Bag End? No ATLA?!! I know why they might not make sets of these, but still I’m dissapointed

Congratulations to the Light House being chosen for the next Ideas set. I still want the “Wallace & Grommet “ to come to life. Maybe the designer will release his instructions and parts list (and earn a little capital) for all to enjoy this absolutely wonderful build.

@janmark said:
"I think it's a great design and for those who wished for another model .... build it yourselves!
"

That's fine and dandy - except the short supply of in-production castle/medieval/ancient (Roman, Greek, ect.) torso prints. I can build anything, sure, but I can't really print my own minifigure torsos. That's why I always hope for Ideas sets that provide those coveted new and useful torso prints.

RIP Bag End. Thanks for protecting my wallet for when the Map of Middle Earth comes out. Oh, wait, it wont get picked either!

@BrickTeller said:
"Real-world lighthouses around the world come in so many different shapes, sizes, patterns, and colors. Since there are so many great designs around the world to draw inspiration from, I really hoped that the next Lego lighthouse would be something more interesting than a cylindrical tower. "

I was tinkering on a Lighthouses Chess Set but now there is no point any more in submitting it to the Ideas. The pieces are based on different Baltic Sea lighthouses and were all to incorporate a light-brick (was hoping to reverse the switches somehow to make pieces light up upon picking up)

I think some of these (like the roman ship) are candidates for the BrickLink designer program in the future (if it does in fact take more rejected Ideas projects in)

I for one don't have any interest in the lighthouse. Wallace & Grommit I would have been interested in but I suspect its just not popular enough globally to be a viable product.

Given that some IPs have appeared multiple times and been rejected time and again (like Last Airbender) maybe LEGO needs to make an overall decision about those IPs (e.g. if they know they can't get the license they should come out and say so and then block further projects based on those IPs.

:( I was so looking forward to getting the excellent Wallace and Gromit, maybe the designer will sell the plans

While the final set will undoubtedly look great, I wish Lego Ideas was reserved for products Lego would not normally release (whether in terms of licensing or design). Lego has made seven minifigure-inhabitable lighthouses before, and they will make more after this set is released.

I was really hoping an Avatar set would be chosen. I loved the ATLA TV show as a kid and the James Cameron movie is a masterpiece. Putting my bias aside there were a lot of better sets, however I don't consider this lighthouse to be the best. It seems to be a very safe option. The viking boat would have made the best set out of these options. It's a shame really.

LEGO Ideas is dying…

3 times The Addams Family Mansion got to over 10K.
And they do this.

LEGO Ideas has definitely become a pathetic joke.

@jonwil said:
"I think some of these (like the roman ship) are candidates for the BrickLink designer program in the future (if it does in fact take more rejected Ideas projects in)
"
Problem with BL Designer Program is they don't get new prints or new pieces. Which makes making certain castle/medieval sets rather difficult without using poor torso substitutes.

@The_Creator said:
"That's fine and dandy - except the short supply of in-production castle/medieval/ancient (Roman, Greek, ect.) torso prints. I can build anything, sure, but I can't really print my own minifigure torsos. That's why I always hope for Ideas sets that provide those coveted new and useful torso prints."

Space/aquazone MOCs are in a similar situation. There are hardly any colorful windscreens . 80020 and 76193 are literally the only 2 sets this year that have a windscreen not in the extremely basic & common tr. clear, light clue, and black. And they are tr. bright green and purple, which aren't exactly in demand for space MOCers, who often specialize in building in the color scheme of a favorite faction from a past subtheme. Most recent appearances of colorful windscreens are sporadic, apart from the orange shades.
Trans Yellow: 2020's 76160 Mobile Bat Base is the most recent appearance of windscreens
Neon Orange: 2020s Demon Bull army sets
Orange: 2020 76153 Avengers Helicarrier (but had much more in the wave previous year)

Green: Last used for 75973 D.VA in 2019. But its only 2 wide.

Red: Last seen in 76112 and 76095 DC sets in 2018

Blue: Last appeared in 76028 Darkseid Invasion in 2015
Neon Green: Last used in 76040 Brainiac Attack and 76025 Green Lantern vs. Sinestro in 2015
Its disappointing that their vehicle and sci-fi heavy themes mostly use the same boring clear colors as real-life themes like City, Friends and Speed Champions. Especially as the solid color schemes look really good.

@Derp_Riot said:
"Ideas is a waste of time. All those great projects just thrown out by Lego. Why even bother?"

Simple...low-cost market testing with free advertisement. Many of the local builders have gotten air time on newscasts and other media. Much cheaper than one or two extra professional designers.

Awesome! I love light houses and I would love to have a large scale LEGO model of one. I think the Ideas theme has been putting out great sets the last few years. One of my favorite themes.

You're saying they didn't pick a modular... again?

Well I'll be damned!

@Norikins said:
" @The_Creator said:
"That's fine and dandy - except the short supply of in-production castle/medieval/ancient (Roman, Greek, ect.) torso prints. I can build anything, sure, but I can't really print my own minifigure torsos. That's why I always hope for Ideas sets that provide those coveted new and useful torso prints."

Space/aquazone MOCs are in a similar situation. There are hardly any colorful windscreens . 80020 and 76193 are literally the only 2 sets this year that have a windscreen not in the extremely basic & common tr. clear, light clue, and black. And they are tr. bright green and purple, which aren't exactly in demand for space MOCers, who often specialize in building in the color scheme of a favorite faction from a past subtheme. Most recent appearances of colorful windscreens are sporadic, apart from the orange shades.
Trans Yellow: 2020's 76160 Mobile Bat Base is the most recent appearance of windscreens
Neon Orange: 2020s Demon Bull army sets
Orange: 2020 76153 Avengers Helicarrier (but had much more in the wave previous year)

Green: Last used for 75973 D.VA in 2019. But its only 2 wide.

Red: Last seen in 76112 and 76095 DC sets in 2018

Blue: Last appeared in 76028 Darkseid Invasion in 2015
Neon Green: Last used in 76040 Brainiac Attack and 76025 Green Lantern vs. Sinestro in 2015
Its disappointing that their vehicle and sci-fi heavy themes mostly use the same boring clear colors as real-life themes like City, Friends and Speed Champions. Especially as the solid color schemes look really good."

Totally agree here, big LEGO space fan but finding new parts to MOC with that I can either do fun color schemes or modernized 1990s Space themes is really difficult. I'm happy at least CMF has given us some really great space minifigures, and (to me at least) variety of minifigure is less of a concern in Space MOCs as it is with castle/medieval/classical.

So are the creators of the models that got rejected able to sell plans / instructions for their sets now? I seem to recall they give up their ownership rights upon submitting it to the IDEAS program.

Would have loved Little Venice..

Move along, move along. Nothing to see right here.

@madforLEGO said:
"As I understand it, LEGO will include a helicopter in the production set."
As well as a Quad/ATV and a drone. ;-)

Being microscale, this would look great next to the Saturn V.

I like this ! Much preferred over the mass produced type writer (still find that one just bizarre), but I would have liked the Roman Ship as well.

Looking forward to seeing the final result !

Ideas remains one of my favourite themes.

@DOLEGO1986 said:
"Will this be minifigure scale?

Would be a great addition to those who own the 21310 Old Fishing Store."

Doesn't look like it by the picture, there's a microfig on the jetty.

Incredible junk / crap / stank that Wallace and Gromit is not the choice, especially when there are already lighthouses in the LEGO history. BOOOOOO!!!!

@MainBricker said:
"People have got to understand that when it comes to licensed sets there is a lot of negotiation with the rights holder required.

It's one thing to say that Lego don't like the idea, but negotiations and contracts have got to be sorted out and it's not a simple process.

I couldn't submit Lego Barbie and then kick off that it hasn't been selected when you've got a lot of commercial issues to resolve."

But that is exactly the point - we never know if the specific set idea wasn't liked by LEGO, or if they don't want to make sets of a particular IP at all, or if they do but can't because they couldn't negotiate satisfying terms. It's one thing to be aware that your idea might not gather 10k votes or might not get accepted by LEGO in the end, and another to not even be aware that your idea is doomed before you even submit it.

I understand that in some cases LEGO is bound by contracts, NDAs and whatnot and CAN'T say anything even if they wanted to, but that just means that the entire LEGO Idea system is not designed as well as it could be. As is, we can expect variations of the same ideas from the same IPs to come up again and again with no hope of seeing them on the shelves.

And then we get a lighthouse that could easily go into the City theme, or Creator, or Creator Expert.

rip Hip-Hip...:-(

@HOBBES said:
" @JBBrickman said:
"LEGO Ideas is dying…"

Lego Ideas died quite a while ago - It just seem not to be aware of it. The concept is excellent, the inner working is just dreadful. And while I understand why Lego might not be able to be completely transparent into the why and why not of every selection, this does not help the platform one bit - "manufacturing disappointment" is a big, big understatement.

There is always this bunch of people saying: If you want it, just build it. This is extremely shallow - please stop. One of the main reason to submit a model to Lego Ideas is because the current piece assortments and colours does not allow to properly render a given model. By submitting to Lego Ideas you get a chance to have your model design improved a bit and more importantly all the necessary parts in the right colours are suddenly available. Someone in a post above also mentions the all important minifig designs - a Batman torso does not fit well in a Castle, Space or Pirates diorama.


I have a MOC in progress(3 years now, ~9000 pieces) for which I am waiting for Lego to eventually produce the required part in that colour - I contacted the company about it (that piece was produced in the past and still exists today - not just in that colour any more) - they always have that canned answer about it. I would vote for the most ugliest set on the planet if that set would allow me to get that piece in that colour (not available on Bricklink in sufficient quantity and prices are ridiculous). Haven't you noticed that many (or the most really desirable) Ideas include many parts in rare colours and most also have animals in them. This is an easy (relatively speaking) way to tell Lego - we want this - otherwise they hardly listen and enter into all sorts of questionable ventures like in the early 2000.


Sorry about that but it feels better already..."

I can understand, but it doesn't always work that way. The dinosaur fossils set should have had tan bones, but it was decided that they should be white instead.

@ericb_ said:
" @djcbs said:
"3 times The Addams Family Mansion got to over 10K.
And they do this.

LEGO Ideas has definitely become a pathetic joke."

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.""

Corporate Retardedness is to see CLEAR DEMAND for a product and refuse to make money by producing it and going with something else with not even half the demand.

@bricksintheattic:
I designed, but haven’t built, the lighthouse that’s located a few miles from where I grew up. In order to achieve the correct taper, it’s pretty much a solid mass of plates, curved slopes, and Technic parts. Making a cylindrical tower that can accommodate a staircase that minifigs can climb might require a diameter that’s unrealistically large for a lighthouse.

@legowerba:
I don’t remember them ever saying there would be one set per review. I do remember a bunch of vocal AFOLs assuming that was the case, and freaking out the first few times they picked two, and again the first time they picked none at all.

@ambr:
Where exactly would a garbage truck have a big tourist market? New Jersey?

@krysto2002:
Every review, there are at least a few that will clearly be rejected based on IP alone. Sometimes it’s not really the submitter’s fault. If the Colosseum set was announced after this project was submitted, that’s no fault of the designer, but they can’t accept it when it involves an active license.

Explaining the ideas, however, could come back to bite them. If they start announcing which IP they don’t want to pursue because they don’t think it’s popular enough to sell well, how many companies do you think they’d alienate in the process? If they had said that about Nintendo themes, what chance is there that they’d have teamed up with Nintendo later on?

@Blondie_Wan:
And that’s another reason. “Um...because reasons” would be super easy to figure out the instant they used it to avoid saying they couldn’t accept a project because they were already hammering out a licensing deal.

@gsom7:
Ideas is just a tiny corner of the company, and holds zero precedence over anything other design teams decide to produce.

@SINTAX:
They do...but short of filing lawsuits against your fanbase, how are you going to stop them?

@HOBBES:
About half of the TLBM Crazy Batsuits would like a word with you...

@djcbs:
Sometimes they reject projects because nobody on the design team thinks it’s feasible to produce a set that will pass their design approval process. Exo-Suit _almost_ got rejected, but there was one person who believed he could pull it off. He had to co-design it with Peter, but it worked out.

Then there’s the issue with IP vs non-IP, where they have imposed a limit of, I believe, no more than 50% IP-based projects, and I can’t see them giving token approval to a very basic non-IP project just so they can approve one more licensed project.

@djcbs said:
" @ericb_ said:
" @djcbs said:
"3 times The Addams Family Mansion got to over 10K.
And they do this.

LEGO Ideas has definitely become a pathetic joke."

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.""

Corporate Retardedness is to see CLEAR DEMAND for a product and refuse to make money by producing it and going with something else with not even half the demand."

I think the word you used after "corporate" there really isn't the word you wanted to use, mate.

My hopes were on the Mystery Shack and Wallace & Gromit.
The lighthouse looks pretty cool though, but it's not a "I'm definitely going to buy this" like the two I mentioned.

I'm not optimistic, but especially with the Dread announcement, I really want that Samus Aran's Gunship

@Ladondorf said:
"I was certain that the Avatar: The Last Airbender set would be greenlit, if not the one from the previous review. What does LEGO not see in it? I'm sure it would've sold like hotcakes."

I’d like to think so, myself, but there are a number of possibilities here.

One thing to consider is that they *did* in fact have a very small Avatar: The Last Airbender theme back in 2006 (just two sets, but still). As I recall, it was one of a number of themes based on animated Nickelodeon properties around that time (Dora the Explorer and SpongeBob SquarePants being two others). Dora (a Duplo theme) eventually petered out and was picked up by Mega Bloks, while SpongeBob endured, never producing a particularly large number of sets at any one time, but lasting to become one of LEGO’s longer-lived licensed themes. Avatar never had anything beyond just those two sets, though, and that was when the show was a current, new show during its original run. It’s possible those two sets just sold really poorly, and that TLG remembers that. And yes, it’s also possible that even if that was the case, LEGO Avatar still might well do better now than it did then, given how the show has continued to garner new fans and is perhaps even more appreciated now than then, but if so, TLG may not know.

Alternatively, we do know that Viacom is also getting a big Avatar campaign going, as they prepare to dramatically expand that franchise and narrative beyond the original two shows (Avatar: The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra). They actually recently announced the formation of a whole new animation studio specifically for Avatar-related productions, under the watchful guidance of the show’s original creators. I think Viacom has big plans for Avatar - and they may have turned TLG down because they want do do more than just a one-off set (even if it could lead to a whole theme down the road, as has happened with other licenses in CUUSOO / Ideas). Or perhaps they want to keep the channels clear of new Avatar merch for a while until shortly before the new shows begin running, at which point we might see a deluge of new stuff, possibly including a whole LEGO theme. Whatever. It could be that the rightsholders nixed the Ideas project, not because they don’t want to exploit the potential for the license, but because they *do*, and already have their own strategy for doing so that an Ideas set doesn’t fit. Perhaps they’ve already signed an agreement with LEGO for a whole range of sets that are already in development but unannounced. Or perhaps they’ve even signed an agreement with one of FLG’s competitors for a construction toy line. There’s a variety of possibilities, and we on the outside just don’t know what the real deal is, but I’m pretty confident there’s some reason for it.

I know it’s disappointing, though. I actually just finally got into this fandom myself last year, and now I dearly wished I’d gotten the existing Avatar sets back in the day, but oh well. At the time I knew nothing about it, as I wasn’t watching the show (I actually first learned of the show via those LEGO sets, when I saw them in the store, and wondered what “Avatar” was). Now I know, and I love it, but at the time…

Literally NOBODY likes this idea, how on earth did this get the most votes. Oh, I'll tell you how, Lego stuffing the ballot box like the last presidential election because Lego believes this one would be the "easiest" for them to produce. If the licensing costs them too much money, THEN CHARGE US MORE. A lot of people would really suck it up and pay more for an actually good Ideas set if it meant that they get to have it.

Do yourselves a favor if you don't like this set and send Lego a message by not buying this, no matter what discount. They do pay attention to what becomes a shelfwarmer

makelegoideasgreatagain lol

No Castle? No Fishing Village? No Viking Ship? No Mystery Shack? Just another Lighthouse... lame.

I've always thought Lego Ideas is about out-of-the-box thinking. I see it in more recent Ideas sets like the Typewriter and the Piano. Geared towards more mature fans (and non-fans alike maybe), I liked most of these sets (Not owned though). I can't fit this lighthouse set with others in that regard.

@PluffTed:
Literally some people have stated they want this set. Literally 10,000 people voted to send it to review.

@Lego_lord:
Historically, yes, there have been several lighthouses. They have ranged from microscale (maybe even nanoscale, but I’m not super familiar with the Architecture skyline sets) to minifig scale. Some of the latter have had light bricks that you could press to make a light blink on and off. Absolutely none of them have been motorized to allow the lighthouse room to function as a real lighthouse would. The best they’ve been able to manage before could approximate range lights...if they ever put two of them in the same set (which they haven’t). I may prefer a different look for a lighthouse (I did grow up within a few miles of one of the most photogenic examples in the world, in the lighthousiest part of the world), but if they do a really good job with making the lighthouse function properly, I’ll have a really hard time passing on this set. The real question then would be if I can possibly incorporate their motorization and light function into a model that I’ve previously designed but have yet to build.

Surprising ... no disappointing really, as the creative ideas are lost forever.

The terms of LEGO clearly state at II(i) of their terms of service that, I quote:

"In exchange for use of the Platform, and to the extent that your contributions through use of the Platform give rise to any intellectual property right interest, hereunder copyright, patent rights, design rights etc., you hereby assign all rights worldwide to the content generated by you to LEGO, meaning that LEGO and co-marketing partners can use your contributions in any way and for any purpose, including to reproduce, manufacture, copy, adapt, modify, perform, display, publish, sell, broadcast, transmit, or communicate to the public by any means whether now known or unknown and distribute your contributions for the whole duration of protection granted to intellectual property rights by applicable laws and international conventions."

Beside that this is the longest unreadable sentence in legal terms that I have seen, it simply means that any submission can never be recreated or used by any party (including the creator) regardless of the outcome of assessment. It is LEGO's and LEGO's only.

In the situation now that all ideas being rejected except one, I can only consider it a kind of honey-pot of collecting ideas. If I was a creative designer, I rather would maintain my rights and find other ways to commercialise my skills and knowledge.

As expected, a similar term to the same effect can now be found on Bricklink at 1.1 of the Designer Terms of Service.

Just my personal opinion, if you are good at it, be careful what you do or submit.

@PluffTed said:
"Literally NOBODY likes this idea, how on earth did this get the most votes. Oh, I'll tell you how, Lego stuffing the ballot box like the last presidential election because Lego believes this one would be the "easiest" for them to produce. If the licensing costs them too much money, THEN CHARGE US MORE. A lot of people would really suck it up and pay more for an actually good Ideas set if it meant that they get to have it.

Do yourselves a favor if you don't like this set and send Lego a message by not buying this, no matter what discount. They do pay attention to what becomes a shelfwarmer

makelegoideasgreatagain lol"

Holy hell dude, you need to find some tin foil.

@Resistian said:
"Really sad the garbage truck didn't win, it had a great play function."

Very much this!