I actually thought this was going to be a technic supercar, but I suppose I will have to wait for that! Cool set though.

It’s the 2021 livery on the 2022(-ish) car; not sure if F1 fans will appreciate that. Wonder why TLG didn’t wait just a little bit longer so they can release a replica of the 2022 car (with correct livery).

So.. any functions besides a V6 and steering?

Edit: Oh a suspension is included, okay. Well, I guess if you leave off the stickers and open the tires, it's a nice display piece.

@damien said:
"Nice, but closed wheels... How ugly!"

Huh, i love it

What scale is this?

Nice set! Should be getting it eventually.....

€179,99 / $179,99

But need to amend the "," to "." in the pricing though..... 179K is too much :)

@merman said:
"Oh no. How they have done the cockpit with the wishbone piece is just plakn ugly"

Yeah, agree. It really stands out, I think a scaled up version of the speed champions solution 76898 76909 would have looked far better

@pawelg said:
"How is that "packed with functionality"? "

Packed is likely a relative term.

For this tight design, steering, suspension, and V6 engine is likely all they could pack. Plus maybe removable chassis. We will need to wait for the review.

It will be hard to beat the 42128, which had (if I recall correctly) 10 functions.

Nice livery, but too many stickers.

The differential lost is an interesting inclusion. I presume it is a lost-in-translation/Lego approximation of a limited slip differential, rather than a Zetros-style diff' lock. Whilst I appreciate they're trying to move the game on from the classic (overdone?) steering/suspension/fake engine sportscar formula , if is a Zetros-style diff' lock then that is a rather unrealistic and curious addition.

Looks great, should have been done with slick tyres though. But will be putting that along side my Technic Grand Prix racer. Can’t wait.

Grosjean is lucky the halo isn't anywhere near to that flimsy.

Does this have DRS? Maybe something similar; can't tell from the picture if the rear wing can be adjusted that way.

Cool for people that get these! The supercars never quite grabbed me but I appreciate that this one has such a different profile than the previous three. Looking forward to many, many, many box posts in the various Technic groups ;)

The initial photos of the real car made it seem almost like Bright Yellowish Orange, would have been nice to get more Technic parts in that but I guess regular orange is ok too

@Calv said:
" @monty_bricks said:
"Isn't this release leaking a photo of the real car on the back of the box, which hasn't been launched yet? "

I think both cars have been revealed today, at the same time."

That's incorrect. The official reveal date for the RL car is February 11th. So LEGO just showed the 2022 livery and car on the box 3 days before. Kudos for another screw-up, LEGO.

Will BS post a review soon?

It's sure is a car.

Looks weird with all the tyres the same size.

Might be worth a purchase once it droops under £100, leave the stickers off and it looks ok.

Put it in a wind tunnel!

Does it come with tyre options or is it only designed for wet environments? Although I can't decide if those tyres are more intermediates than full wets....

There are just too little curvy design considerations in this model, which means, it is not a real replica of the original. I think the past implementations are better in this aspect. Nevertheless, the piece count is lesser here so it's hard to compare.

Maybe if the price could be lower i.e. in the range of EUR149,99, it might be more appealing (at least to me).

Are there no numbers? It looks like there's no hood or side numbers for Lando or Daniel.

Also, while obviously the alcohol/tobacco sponsors are absent, it's kind of amusing that their most mundane sponsor--Coca-Cola--isn't included on the car.

"the first LEGO Technic incarnation of a Formula 1 car"

I actually think they are correct. 8461 and 8674 are clearly given the Lego Racers theme. In my opinion any other Technic models with references to F1, Formula, Grand Prix, Racer are generic and not a specific Formula 1 car that has existed. Even if models, such as 8458, look like they are based on a specific Formula 1 car I don't believe they are an incarnation. To be fair it could be just how we interrupt the language used.

On a side note I like this model and hope to buy it.

@Chris87 said:
"Does it come with tyre options or is it only designed for wet environments? Although I can't decide if those tyres are more intermediates than full wets...."

It seems it's only intermediates (with unfortunately the wrong Pirelli naming), since "P Zero" is for soft, medium and hard only, and Cinturato is for intermediates and full wets.

Curious about the differential lock. F1 cars do have a variable limited slip differential.

There's so many details that you could point at as inaccurate and ugly, the fact that it seems to be a morph between a 2021 and 2022 car, and that it lacks functions and features that you'd expect for a big Technic set.

But you know what? I don't care. I'm in love with it, and will be a day 1, minute 1 purchase for me!

@Alemas said:
"...I'm disappointed.
42000 has the same functions as this (steering, suspension, engine, differential lock), but the engine cover and the DRS flap both open, plus you could integrate Power Functions into it, if you wanted to.
The McLaren costs €180, the Grand Prix Racer cost €100.
Thought this would have been a must-buy, but now I'm really not convinced..."

It's a must buy and you will buy it :) It may be missing some functions but the reproduction is unquestionably accurate for a Lego model. Missing DRS would be disappointing to me personally an I would like to see some attempt at the MGU-H/K even if it's a sticker or a few Lego parts. IMO they could do without the functioning V6 and the 30 year old piston/cylinder system. And in place something making use of more specialized parts that don't move.

I am not proud to say that the first thing I saw is the Bitc* sticker right at the centre of the image lol

Is it in 1:8 scale?

I may be in the minority here, but I like it. A few things aren't perfect, the halo and the big hole in the nose, but I think it displays really nice. Im actually happy it's not a bigger model, between this, the new Speed Champions, and the BMW bike, my vehicle collection needs some rearranging

WOW that is ugly

I'm a bit on two minds about this. For most part, I do like how it looks. The color scheme obviously is great, and the general shaping seems quite okay. While there are so many stickers I wouldn't expect anything else from a model like this and I feel it would even look good if you leave off most of them. And I like how they did the wings, especially on the front. Nothing spectacular when it comes to functions, but what else could you expect? Working DRS would have been nice I guess...

That said, there are some things that bother me. First of all, would a set of slicks (in two sizes) really have been to much to ask for? The halo looks iffy, and there should have been at least some black (or an actual hole) at the inlets of the sidepods. And while I like that you can actually see the engine, a removable cover and some proper engine detail would have been so much nicer. And then there's the price, €180 to me feels just like way too much. I mean, just a few years ago you could get the 42039 Endurance Racer for €110, and even taking some inflation in account, I just don't see what should make this over 50% more expensive...

But the big question obviously is how accurate this will turn out to be. I can only hope they have worked close enough with McLaren to get it (mostly) right, otherwise they might as well cancel it before release and try again...

@Banderolas said:
"What's even bigger dissapointment is that you can observe a tendency at LEGO to create nice looking models that are targeted to people who will build them only once.
I've something to say to those people - buy die cast models, or something similar and leave LEGO to people who like building and dissasembling. There are models on the market that looks nicer, and they are cheaper as well."

There are also plenty of Lego models on the market that can be rebuilt. The fact that this can be displayed doesn't mean it isn't a genuine set. I'm not a huge fan of the type of Afol that just has walls and walls of sets that were built once, but that's 101% an issue with them as a consumer and not with Lego as the producer. We can only hope that someday they'll see the light and start making their own builds

Overpriced unless there’s a motor I’m not seeing here.

I don't understand car people and whatever metric they use for car attractiveness. I'm searching every aesthetic folder in my brain cabinets to try and figure out why this justifies the term "ugly". I'm not trying to be judgy, I just want to understand. x)

Like, closed wheels are a sin but being plastered in ads is cool?

I think the overall look and shaping is pretty good.

The biggest disappointment is the livery. Amongst the ugliest on the grid. Red Bull, AlphaTauri, anything would have looked better.

And as for the wheels, even uglier than the real thing. The lettering on the cover, rather than the tyre doesn't help. They got away with it on the Speed Champions Mercedes by extending the cover to the full tyre diameter, but this doesn't really work.

50/50 whether I'll get this, but if I do it will only be once it's dropped to under £100.

It looks lovely but that price is eye-watering

@monty_bricks said:
"Isn't this release leaking a photo of the real car on the back of the box, which hasn't been launched yet? "

The images on the box are of last year's car and livery. The Lego is based of the new 2022 cars, but by the time they finalized this set McLaren wouldn't have had a new finalized livery.

Not really a Technic person, but I like the colors on this build and it's great to see the Tumbler tires again!

Ok, I went ahead and counted the number of stickers.
Minimum of 60.
I'll wait until I see the car without stickers, then I MIGHT consider it.
I do not want to experience sticker anxiety 60 times for one set.

@Alemas said:
"Ok, I went ahead and counted the number of stickers.
Minimum of 60.
I'll wait until I see the car without stickers, then I MIGHT consider it.
I do not want to experience sticker anxiety 60 times for one set."

The color blocking seems good enough that it'll look decent without them, but I didn't notice until just now that the dishes covering the tires are all stickers. That definitely sucks

Too many stickers where they could have printed the pieces, especially as it is a set. I like the colour scheme when McLaren changed it, but after last year, I lost a lot of my interest in F1.

@Calv said:
" @monty_bricks said:
"Isn't this release leaking a photo of the real car on the back of the box, which hasn't been launched yet? "

I think both cars have been revealed today, at the same time."

nah, mclaren has its relase date set for friday. kinda weird they didn't wait for the same day.

So will the rear cowling be removable or open like 8458? or is that why the engine is not covered up?
I lost interest in F1 when they went V6 and put that ugly halo on there, why not just go full canopy!
My gripes with the real ones aside that's an easy pass for me, Suspension looks exactly the same as 8458, which is a shame as it has has a very weak point in it.
With the exception of 42128 technic have lost their way a bit over the last few years in my opinion.

@KiloGram said:
"Is it in 1:8 scale?"

Yes it is 1:8, approximately. But I'm not sure if they might have taken some mild liberties with the dimensions to make the model work.

@Wrecknbuild said:
" @Chris87 said:
"Does it come with tyre options or is it only designed for wet environments? Although I can't decide if those tyres are more intermediates than full wets...."

It seems it's only intermediates (with unfortunately the wrong Pirelli naming), since "P Zero" is for soft, medium and hard only, and Cinturato is for intermediates and full wets.

Curious about the differential lock. F1 cars do have a variable limited slip differential.
"

The blue tyre is the full wet. the inters are green and both should say Cinturato not P-Zero.

It’s just so dull. This is why 8458 still looks so good- make it metallic and it’s a winner.

@monty_bricks said:
"Isn't this release leaking a photo of the real car on the back of the box, which hasn't been launched yet? "

No, that's last year's car

@tomchiverton said:
" @monty_bricks said:
"Isn't this release leaking a photo of the real car on the back of the box, which hasn't been launched yet? "

No, that's last year's car "

photos 2 & 4 are last years car, but photo 3 is this years car. i don't know if it is the actual car or just a mock up though.

Well it doesnt really interest me, but I have a suspicion that it will become a rather sought after set in the future.

@Goose44 said:
" @Banderolas said:
"My first impression was: "wow, that looks nice..."
But then I took closer look and what's left is dissapointment. Lack of functions, empty shell, high price per piece count, many stickers, stickers on wheels, etc.

What's even bigger dissapointment is that you can observe a tendency at LEGO to create nice looking models that are targeted to people who will build them only once.
I've something to say to those people - buy die cast models, or something similar and leave LEGO to people who like building and dissasembling. There are models on the market that looks nicer, and they are cheaper as well."

Who are you to tell people not to buy lego because they don't use the pieces for something else? So AFOLs should only buy lego to make MOCS? What an incredibly narrow minded and childish comment. "

This. A thousand time this. Every Lego set gives you the option to build whatever you want with the pieces. How many MOCs get rebuilt as something else?

As for die cast models, another hobby of mine, how many of those models allow the owner to EASILY make custom modifications?

Full disclosure: zero interest in Formula 1, and despise cars generally, but...

I absolutely LOVE the Irn-Bru livery!

@Goose44 said:
" @Banderolas said:
"My first impression was: "wow, that looks nice..."
But then I took closer look and what's left is dissapointment. Lack of functions, empty shell, high price per piece count, many stickers, stickers on wheels, etc.

What's even bigger dissapointment is that you can observe a tendency at LEGO to create nice looking models that are targeted to people who will build them only once.
I've something to say to those people - buy die cast models, or something similar and leave LEGO to people who like building and dissasembling. There are models on the market that looks nicer, and they are cheaper as well."

Who are you to tell people not to buy lego because they don't use the pieces for something else? So AFOLs should only buy lego to make MOCS? What an incredibly narrow minded and childish comment. "

One day LEGO will start selling fully assembled, dusting friendly sets, so they could target the open minded and mature ones. Are you interested?

Looks great! If it turns out to be close enough to the actual 2022 car, I'll buy it. Otherwise, I might as well build something myself from spare parts.

On a side note - what a cringy press release text. The only information in the first 4 paragraphs is 1) that it is based on the 2021 livery, and 2) a listing of its functions. Could have written that in one or two sentences.

Is it only me getting this weird unprofessional feeling seeing parts coming loose on the box art? The section behind the cockpit has a huge gap opening up on many of these pictures. Similar was visible on 31118 canopy top, where the third section of the arch came lose on every official picture...

@daniellesa said:
"Too many stickers where they could have printed the pieces, especially as it is a set. I like the colour scheme when McLaren changed it, but after last year, I lost a lot of my interest in F1."

They literally needed to have only 4 printed pieces here - the tires.

No, actually as of the time of writing, mclaren car for 2022 hasn't been revealed yet, so the box contains a leak indeed. Also the LEGO model lacks certain sponsors for some reason (Tezos for instance). Besides, there are already MOCs in this scale that are way better (more accurate) than the official model itself.

aaand we have the official new McLaren reveal, no surprise that it's different from 42141

How unexpected......not.

Please, just cancel/delay this set and try again. Even when it looked nice, the set as it was presented is now one big bad joke.

@WizardOfOss said:
"How unexpected......not.

Please, just cancel/delay this set and try again. Even when it looked nice, the set as it was presented is now one big bad joke."

What?

@fakespacesquid said:
"What?"
Well, here's what the actual 2022 McLaren looks like: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-mclaren-showcase-bold-new-livery-as-they-reveal-2022-challenger-the.5etd9Tgo3ivFuzQIJFNt5r.html

So basically the Lego model is a 2022 car in a 2021 livery. I'd say, back to the drawing board. Fix it before the actual release.

Just came here to post that the McLaren 2022 livery is pretty different to the LEGO model livery. Releasing a LEGO model of the 2022 car with the 2021 livery is ridiculous.

I can’t see them going back to the drawing board as this is intentional as per the press release.

Another misstep by LEGO. Should have waited until they had the official 2022 livery.

No chance I’d get this now.

@WizardOfOss said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
"What?"
Well, here's what the actual 2022 McLaren looks like: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-mclaren-showcase-bold-new-livery-as-they-reveal-2022-challenger-the.5etd9Tgo3ivFuzQIJFNt5r.html

So basically the Lego model is a 2022 car in a 2021 livery. I'd say, back to the drawing board. Fix it before the actual release."

You say "fix" as if something went wrong, this is clearly what they intended to do. I liken this a lot to the Mario Cube issue: sure, maybe the "? Block" didn't appear in the 64 game, so four Nintendo wonks will call that out. But it's one of the most well-known aspects of Mario. If it *wasn't* the "? Block" every other person would have been wondering why.

I struggle to picture most people caring about the differences here. People who get the Technic supercars aren't going to abstain because it doesn't perfectly match the 2021 or 2022 cars. They might not like it for other reasons, but I can't imagine Lego will lose more than 5 sales over "it's the old colors and not an exact match to the new model"

Like, does Lego cancel movie tie-in sets because the concept art they got 10 months ago turned out to not be 100% correct? No. That'd be ridiculous. They work with what they have, and if it does well enough they go back later and do *more* sets based on the actual thing that came out.

just don't put 2022 on the box, that's all. Otherwise this is really going to look like a fail marketing.

Basically that indeed. With not even that many changes this could have been a pretty darn good 2021 McLaren MCL35.

With movies, it's all about momentum, you need to release the sets when the movie hits the cinema, not when the dvd is released. So there has to be a bit of a gamble. And indeed, if it's a popular movie that isn;t forgotten a few months later, they'll get a second chance to fix it.

F1 is different. They are gonna race this car a whole year with just minor (visible) changes. And sure, it would be best to have a set of the current car. But that's difficult if you don't know how that looks. The logical option would have been last year's car, which proved quite successful. But instead we got some kind of Frankenstein model that doesn't resemble any actual McLaren that ever raced. And how big is the chance we will ever get a second 2022 McLaren?

And sure, not every customer will care about accuracy. But then I wonder: Would those people even care about the license? I earlier made a comparison with the 42039 Endurance Racer, which was a completely made up model, but looked great nevertheless, and I never heard someone complain about that. But if a set is supposed to resemble something specific, that's a bit different. And considering the prices Lego asks for their products, I would expect them to do a better job. After all, if I only want something that somewhat looks like some F1 car, I can get one a lot cheaper from our friend Ali...

So having seen the pictures of the new car now I really wonder why they put 2022 so prominently on the box. The model in this set is the body and livery from 2021 with the front and rear wings and wheels from 2022.
It's still not growing on me...

With the reveal of the real 2022 car, I don't want to buy this set anymore.

This set is not a depiction of the 2022 car, nor is it one of the 2021 car. It is a fictional model. At the same time, the consumer needs to pay a hefty premium for the licensing. For a car that does not exist. Not worth it for me.

Well, I expect the discounts to be hefty for this one.

I see some missing pieces in my brick collection:
3x11 wing panels in orange
3x11 curved panels in blue (sans holes)
black and blue curved triangle panels

Nice re-use of the Batman tumbler wheels.

@Wrecknbuild said:
"Well, I expect the discounts to be hefty for this one."

Why?

@Paski said:
"With the reveal of the real 2022 car, I don't want to buy this set anymore.

This set is not a depiction of the 2022 car, nor is it one of the 2021 car. It is a fictional model. At the same time, the consumer needs to pay a hefty premium for the licensing. For a car that does not exist. Not worth it for me."

You are wrong. This IS the 2022 car. Not the livery, but it is modeled after the 2022 Formula 1/FIA concept.

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fom-website/manual/Misc/2021manual/2021BritishManualAdds/2022CarImages/2022CarImageRENDERS/F1%202022%20-%20SILVERSTONE%20-%2003.jpg.transform/9col/image.jpg

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.10-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-all-new-2022-f1-car.4OLg8DrXyzHzdoGrbqp6ye.html