Which classic set should be re-imagined for a gift-with-purchase?

Obviously 4040 should be top of everyone's list.

None, but I would buy a re-release.

6296: Shipwreck Island would be perfect! We have space and castle, so time for pirates!

@vizzitor said:
"Obviously 4040 should be top of everyone's list."

Good god, I can't unsee that

1589 Town Square

I'd love something like 6371: Shell Service Station

6265: Sabre Island

@Poppy2612 said:
" @vizzitor said:
"Obviously 4040 should be top of everyone's list."

Good god, I can't unsee that "

WTF is that? Somebody actually designed that, then another group of people approved, packaged, and marketed it? Really?

Time Cruisers 6494, since that theme was an amalgamation of various themes from the time, it would be perfect to celebrate multiple older themes at once if that set were to be expanded.

Probably too big for a GWP, but screw it because that FOMO by LEGO is predatory anyway, and sucks for those of us who can’t afford to spend £100+ on LEGO at a moment’s notice.

6267: Lagoon Lock-Up

I would love to see a combo of 6259 and 6267 to give the Imperials a base against Barracuda Bay. If they made it somewhat modular, people could combine multiples.
I wouldn't complain about 6264 since there's already reference to Islanders in PoBB...

Well since we've had the tentpole themes of Castle, Space and Bionicle covered already, obviously we're missing Pirates. Probably have to rule out an actual boat due to the pieces needed in making a hull, so perhaps something like 6279 Skull Island. Got a very recognisable look with that big old skull cliff and can easily be filled with lots of fun play functions

6941 Battrax

@vizzitor said:
"Obviously 4040 should be top of everyone's list."

I would get multiples of any galidor reimagination in an instant

5938 : Oasis Ambush from the Adventurers line could be a good candidate.
We saw a newer version of Johnny Thunder with the Lego Movie, but without a proper set. I think the Adventurers theme is as iconic as Blacktron, Castle or Bionicle to be reimagined with today standards

Ice planet ICE-Sat V 6898!
Probably without magnets but there are a thousand way to make the lift arm connect to the rocket nowadays.
Ice planet is cool :)

@woosterlegos said:
" @Poppy2612 said:
" @vizzitor said:
"Obviously 4040 should be top of everyone's list."

Good god, I can't unsee that "

WTF is that? Somebody actually designed that, then another group of people approved, packaged, and marketed it? Really?
"

If we’re going down this route, maybe 3220 should be a notable option.

Maybe something from Pirate or Johnny Thunder era.

How about one of the early Technic sets (850, 851, 852, 853)?

6263 or 6056 would prefer the primates set as we haven’t had a vintage pirate set and we got a castle theme with the 6054 set a few months back.

LOL 6956 Stellar Recon Voyager only has 233 pieces, so it would qualify...can you imagine?

5958 Mummy’s Tomb

Pretty perfectly encapsulates the much loved Adventurers theme, and our hero Johnny Thunder’s quest for adventure.

I'll nominate 6374 or 6365.
Or basically any of the old Legoland Stadt houses from between around 1981 and 1988.

SELECT * FROM Sets
WHERE (YearFrom < 2003) AND (Pieces < 301) AND (Theme = 'Pirates')
ORDER BY WeightedScore DESC

And then... 6270: Forbidden Island!! ;¬]

How about 7140 - it's only 250 pieces! Nah, just kidding. :D

I'd like to see something in the steam train range, like 396. Or a homage to their highly customisable My Own Train system, like a straight reissue of 3740.

This might be something people will disagree with BUT why not a remake of the monorail cars.. 6399

Not the whole station, tracks etc but just the cars and a classic fig or two

Paradisa would be nice, like 6401 6410 or even 6411. That theme really did end too early.

@NathanR2015 said:
"I'd like to see something in the steam train range, like 396. Or a homage to their highly customisable My Own Train system, like a straight reissue of 3740."
Oh wait, why not 7760

6268 Renegade Runner - We got a classic Classic and a classic Space, so we need to complete the trifecta with classic Pirates. Piece count would be reasonable, what better way to rep the line than with a ship, and it would make a wonderful companion to Barracuda Bay.

Either 675 or 6362

I’m a fan of M - Tron. Perhaps a remake of 6862.

A reimagined 10305 would be a nice GWP...

ANY galidor, I only have 50 pounds of it, never enough of it!

6923; 6887 or any other space set.
Or how about 6256, 6594, 6375, 6699, 7133, 3220 ...
Whatever it is, please nothing that is frequently being remade!

6875 Hovercraft (Space/Futuron), 6049 Viking Voyager (Castle/Lion Knights), and 6034 Black Monarch’s Ghost (Castle/Black Knights)

As to why:
6875 - Full reasoning here :-) https://brickset.com/article/49474/featured-set-of-the-day-hovercraft
6049 - cute little ship and so many minifigs!
6034 - horse, knight, small fort, and a ghost!

I liked the ghost mini fig, so maybe 6075

But I also liked pirates so Maybe 6270

6365 Would be awesome. I never owned the original set, but I built it with my own pieces a few years back. It is my personal favourite early classic town "house" sets as it's simple colours, simple furniture builds, common pieces and the reliance of only one 5-brick tall door as well as green shutters on the windows. These features could be improved upon in the reimagining with maybe making it a 6-brick tall door, shutters that would be SNOT connections of 2x3 tiles next to the windows and maybe actual flooring for the inside of the house instead of having it be grass and maybe some improved/upgraded furnishings.

6923 was always a favourite of mine. Would love to see M-Tron getting an update on this!

But Adventurers, the Orient theme would be pretty excellent, too - 7410 or 7417 especially.

6059 would be a nice castle addition, if we're going to have Forestmen, Lion Knights, Black/White Falcons, might as well add Black Knights. Or to stick with Falcons and Lions, 6062.

@TechnicMan said:
"How about one of the early Technic sets (850, 851, 852, 853)?"

One of the smaller ones, yes I agree. Maybe a perfect GWP 1n 2027 when its becomes 50years since the birth of Technic. I'm really hoping for something special. Maybe a remake of 853 with its famous lift up lid and all those pieces on display. Memories of a 9 year old child in 77

I think that we need Chima GWP.

3664 with the police vehicle or at least that crocodile character to put in jail. Or some other Fabuland stuff

@Aquatikelfik said:
"5938 : Oasis Ambush from the Adventurers line could be a good candidate.
We saw a newer version of Johnny Thunder with the Lego Movie, but without a proper set. I think the Adventurers theme is as iconic as Blacktron, Castle or Bionicle to be reimagined with today standards"

I came here just to suggest 5938 as well when I saw your comment. It would be perfect as a little GWP. My second recommendation would be 5936: Spider's Secret, which would really go well with 71025-7: Jungle Explorer, AKA the newest version of Johnny Thunder.

I would instantly buy something that came with a reimagined 6067 Guarded Inn as a GWP. The original was ~230 pieces. Super iconic, and they already have a sign ready to go from Barracuda Bay.

6956 Stellar Recon Voyager

I vote "none" because it's a despicable way to coerce people into spending way more than they would've otherwise. Or, in my case, choose to not spend at all.

6268 Renegade Runner or 6765 Gold City Junction

None of them... as a GWP. Make a series called 'Vintage' ('Classics' would be better, but that's taken) and release updated versions of classic Lego sets at retail. I'd have happily paid ~$30 for the Forestmen Hideout if I wasn't already getting it "free" when I bought Lion Knight's Castle.

I'd LOVE to have the Blacktron Cruiser, but there wasn't enough sets I wanted/room in the budget right after Christmas to meet the GWP threshold for it. However, if it was simply a retail set, I would have happily bought it by itself.

Rather than locking these sets behind a GWP limit, make and sell them like any other set. Give it a 'Vintage' branding and let people simply buy them. Getting a GWP is great when it's something you're buying anyway, but I've never bought something I wasn't planning to buy already just to get a GWP.

Definitely need some Johnny Thunder/Adventurers.
Could Definitely see 5918 bulked up a bit and modernised in to a nice small GWP set.

6265 is also an excellent choice for a pirates (imperials) themed one

Small GWP ( < 150 pieces original )
Pirates : 6256 : Islander Catamaran / 6248 : Volcano Island
Adventurers : 5938 : Oasis Ambush / 5936: Spider's Secret
Town : 6592: Vacation Hideaway / 6649 : Street Sweeper
Paradisa : 6404 : Carriage Ride / 6401 : Seaside Cabana
Space : 6879 : Blizzard Baron / 6887 : Allied Avenger
Castle : 6038 : Wolfpack Renegades / 6036 : Skeleton Surprise

Large GWP ( < 250 pieces original )

Pirates : 6264 : Forbidden Cove / 6267 : Lagoon Lock-Up
Adventurers : 3722: Treasure Tomb
Town : 376-2: House with Garden / 6561 : Hot Rod Club
Paradisa : 6411 : Sand Dollar Café / 6410 : Cabana Beach
Space : 6781 : SP-Striker / 6897 : Rebel Hunter
Castle : 6067 : Guarded Inn / 6059 : Knight's Stronghold / 6048 : Majisto's Magical Workshop

I know it was already in Legends, but 6067 or 6376 would be amazing again.

346-2 House with Car
or
315-3 European Taxi

I don't really see anything as 'classic' or 'historical' that has more than 3 figures in the set number!

As a child of the 90's, Adventurers is deeply nostalgic for me, and I would love to see one of the little tombs or perhaps a bi-plane /car reimagined from the series with some familiar characters.

That said, the other theme I haven't yet seen represented from my nostalgic era is rock raiders- I wouldn't mind a reimagining of the granite grinder (especially with it's cameo in the new creator house)

Besides all that, I want something from the trains line simply so that I can see packaging that includes that ridiculous blue cave radiating with what I can only assume are the fires of hell...

6007 -LEGO Racers/Basil the Bat Lord nostalgia.

Also 6262 or 6256 for King Kahuka, same reasoning.

I'm sort of regretting my joke first post now I see the number of likes. I'm really sorry if it makes it to the poll.
My serious suggestion is 6933. Can't believe it's is under 300 parts. In my memory, it was humongous and one of the two large sets I had as a child. I'd love to see it remade, especially with the detachable and combinable module ships.

6350 - LEGO Island nostalgia

None. Remaking sets only to release them as a limited time only GWP is predatory and a waste of a perfectly good mid-sized set.

Instead just sell them regularly. How hard could it be to sell a good and well-designed set?

This recent increase in large, specific and desirable GWPs is an absolutely wrong direction for us customers.

Octan set for Town: 6594 Gas Transit

Ice Planet set for Space: 6879 Blizzard Baron

Pirates: 6265 Sabre Island

Okay, hear me out- 6416, Poolside Paradise, reimagined as a Friends GWP. Lego have brought back the large curved windows once, they can do it again.

The other option would be to GWP-ify a Rock Raiders set like 4940, if for no other reason than to antagonise R.R. Slugger on Youtube exclusively.

I've always had a soft spot for 6824 Space Dart, mainly because it was the first Classic Space set that I had with a blue spaceman.

@Ridgeheart said:
[[ @mikesray said:
[[Unless, you know, there's a direct line out there for me (and for us, us horrible old people who want nothing but to relive our childhoods, or to buy the sets that we couldn't afford when we were kids).]]

I've acquired quite a collection of vintage stuff for cheap on the secondary market. You have to be willing to buy bins and boxes of mixed stuff, but there are some fantastic deals if you are patient. I also sell duplicates or sets I'm not interested in to fund my acquisitions. If you have time and the energy for it, it's great. If I consider some hauls all by themselves, the number of classic sets I've gotten for "free*" or even paid is pretty incredible.

*free meaning I have sold stuff and made back more than I paid. Obviously there is a time component, as well as supplementing some bricks from my collection to make them complete enough to sell.

6265 Sabre Island would be my number one choice! They did such a great job with 21322 PoBB but we are desperately lacking a good Imperial set to go along with it!

How about 6755? Anyone for a western remake?

If it were up to me, I'd wish a mini version of 8868 , 8880 or 8480 , but if that's impossible, then something like 8241 or even better, 858 !

I expect a town set. Would be nice to have 675 , 6592 or 6689 , and agree that they should be a retail product, not a GWP

The ideal Classic Town set to be given the reimagined as GWP treatment is probably Pizza To Go 6350.

For Pirates I’d go Sabre Island 6265.

Adventurers Oasis Ambush 5938.

Castle again? 6057 would be irresistible.

Don’t forget 40370 as a GWP re-imagining of 7810 a couple of years ago. Might be my favorite of the bunch so far.

None; just release them as regular sets so I can buy them.

Wolfpack, Wolfpack, WOLFPACK! 6038 or 6075 would be amazing.
I would also love something from Blacktron G2 - maybe 6933 or 6981?
Imperials could also make a comeback to face the Pirates once more!

4005 Tug Boat for me.

6067 - Guarded Inn
6075 - Wolfpack Tower
6071 - Forestmen’s Crossing
6263 - Imperial Outpost
6265 - Sabre Island
6267 - Lagoon Lockup

How about 600-2 ? A small set, so no huge spend threshold required, and one of the first minifigure sets - right back to 1978.

And hopefully with a policeman who isn't an action hero, but just someone doing their job by helping people with a smile.

Please for god's sake DON'T do any more GWP garbage. It's a borderline unethical business practice, that Lego really shouldn't engage in. There are so many sets that don't sell, why not axe those and replace them with those remake sets.

I wouldn't necessarily want all of these, but they'd work well as reimagined ~300-piece sets.

6038 Wolfpack Renegades
6041 Armor Shop
6266 Cannon Cove
6444 Outback Airstrip
6886 Galactic Peace Keeper

6263, or 6267

Both are cool sets, and I agree with those who want to add a Pirates set to the selection of GWP's.

I'd love to see a release of 6970 or a version thereof. I know it's 264 pieces, but c'mon: what's an extra fourteen bricks among friends.

Something like this would complement the re-released Galaxy Explorer pretty well
Failing that, a multi-set release of sets like 885 and 886 would be wonderful.

Of course, we all know that absolutely *everyone* wants more Classic Space . . .

Speaking only for Space as it is my favorite of the classic themes.

Small GWP: 1557, 6808, 6824, 6825, 6826, 6827, 6828, 6845 or 6849. Some here could even be almost 1:1 replicas of the original sets.

Large GWP: 6886, 6887, 6891, 6895, 6927, 6928, 6929 (in fact I would love a 10497 treatment for this one), 6941 or 6950

6175: Crystal Explorer Sub

Aquanauts was my jam growing up, and I think that set would be the easiest to do something cool with.

@HandPositions said:
"I’m a fan of M - Tron. Perhaps a remake of 6862."

M-Tron!!!!

I can’t believe I had to scroll down so far to find the first nomination for 6067 !

Let that be evidence that us Castle fans aren’t entirely predictable

There is nothing unethical about making sets as GWP. I don't get the hate nor the attempts at shaming a perfectly legitimate, and popular, business practice. I love GWP.

I think 948-1 ( https://brickset.com/sets/948-1/Go-Kart ) would make a worthy re-visit. I could totally see it re-imagined with a few of the newer Technic panels for some of the bodywork and of course liftarms in place of the technic bricks. Maybe even a combination of liftarms and beams to sort of 'mesh' the two eras together.

I NEED A REVISED 2585 !!!!

Super Station Master (and Timmy!)

How about abandon the idea of classic re-imaginings as gwp

mmmh... tough choice...
I'd go with something from Aquazone, like 6155 or 1728

though anything from Islander, Adventurers or Western would be cool too...

6362 Post Office would be very cool. Why there are no other post offices in LEGO City/Town is a mystery to me.

2024 would be fun to make a build of

Some great ideas. I do agree with posters who suggested a new line-up of classic set remakes for sale instead of GWP. But for the purpose of this poll I like Model Team. Unfortunately the sets were a bit too big for a GWP but maybe a scaled down version of 5510 could work. Bonus points if it would have instructions for both models from the set.

6262: King Kahuka's Throne

I want to display 'King Kahuka's Throne' with 'Pirates of barracuda bay'.

Personally, I think LEGO should just create these as a line of small retro sets. Even if they were in limited quantities, having a line of $30-$40 sets would be so much better for these as full releases than just as GWPs.

6067 Guarded Inn seems likely, though honestly I really wish for something from the UFO series like 6915 (seeing how a brickbuild saucer shield would compare to the original) with a modernized version of the Zotax aliens...

On the other hand 6416 would be funny (Iwas surprised it had that few pieces). The window pieces should still be available, but recreating the baseplate would be challenging. I guess they would more or less try to skip it altogether.

An upscaled 6155 might also be an interesting choice (of cause it would lack the magnets and all chrome would be flat silver).

6755 Sheriff's Lock-Up

6990 - Monorail, monorail, monorail!!!
6980 - My biggest set from when I was a child
6973 - Set that brought me out of my dark age because it reminded me of 6980
6989 - Lego has re-done Blacktron, how about M-Tron

4970 Rock Raiders Chrome Crusher, a icon of the theme

6270 Forbidden Island, I would love a re-release. So much memories

Set 3665, Harry Horse and Clara Cow's Ice Cream Shoppe from 1980. Or anything Fabuland.

6496 Whirling Time warper
6034 Black Monarch's Ghost
6889 Recon Robot
5938 Oasis Ambush

Ok, So we've had Classic Space, so now we need to move on to the subthemes (like the Castle sets have gone with Forestmen, Black Falcons and Lion Knights). so Fututon is the obvious choice! And, because we've had two spacecraft I think now is the time for either a base or a land vehicle.

Obviously, there's no Futuron base that would fit the low number of pieces requirement (We all want the 6990 Monorail Transport System, but it's just too big), and although the Monorail Accessory Track 6921 is within the range, it's not exactly exciting. So I've taken a look at the ground support vehicles that were available then, and the Interplanetary Rover, set 6925 is perfect!

First off, it's pretty bonkers looking with that vertical cockpit screen and all those wheels that pivot. Reimagining that would be tons of fun.
Secondly, it has a trailer, which I'm kinda thinking could be made detachable and allow the front to function as a speedier rover.
Thirdly, there's a little spaceship.

All-round goodness!

6038 was one of my favs as a kid, it would be great to put along side The Lion Knight's Castle.

Assuming theres some kind of issue with 215 and they can't get the licensing rights, of course.

My personal picks would include an updated Paradisa set, big or small.

Obviously a pirates set! Maybe one of the islanders sets! Those were awesome!!! Like 6262 king kahuka’s throne!

6265 Sabre Island.

@Blu_Ele said:
"The ideal Classic Town set to be given the reimagined as GWP treatment is probably Pizza To Go 6350."

I was thinking about this one too! And it even has already been re-released: 10036 , probably because it is so classic.

I'd say this 376-2 as one of the first city set and hours of fun with it for me and definitely my first set: 555-1

I'd love any number of Space or Castle sets, but I will refrain and list some other worthy themes that haven't had the pleasure of a remake yet.

Town: 6561 Hot Rod Club
Aquazone: 6155 Deep Sea Predator
Western: 6761 Bandit's Secret Hide-Out
Adventure: 2879 Desert Expedition
Rock Raiders: 4970 The Chrome Crusher
Exo-Force: 7700 Stealth Hunter

@shedjed said:
"There is nothing unethical about making sets as GWP. I don't get the hate nor the attempts at shaming a perfectly legitimate, and popular, business practice. I love GWP."

It’s popular because of the set what you can get, but from buyer perspective it’s simply bs. You have to spend a tons of money and buy stuff what you don’t need to get the set what actually you want.

From Lego perspective it’s perfect I have to admit.

6265 !!!!

We need Rock Raiders back

Wow, the comment count is going wild. This is when I wish for reddit-style voting and threaded comments.

I’ll just say I’d be happy with any early to mid 90’s sets. Ice Planet, Aquanauts, Adventurers.

@TomKazutara said:
"How about no GWP at all and just put it them on shelfs ?"

This This This This

Please, I feel like the community is getting too *used* to GWPs being the means by which Lego delivers high demand nostalgia content.

PLEASE I do not want the future of Lego to be that everything I potentially want is locked behind a $200+ purchase of stuff that I don't want.

If Lego is confident in the popularity of these items, they should make them available to sale, and if they sell out, they should make more of them. Full stop.

I feel very strongly about this and it's something the community needs to put its foot down on. The current GWP model is predatory and needs to stop.

Anyhow my vote's for 4970

@krysto2002 said:
" @TomKazutara said:
"How about no GWP at all and just put it them on shelfs ?"

This This This This

Please, I feel like the community is getting too *used* to GWPs being the means by which Lego delivers high demand nostalgia content.

PLEASE I do not want the future of Lego to be that everything I potentially want is locked behind a $200+ purchase of stuff that I don't want.

If Lego is confident in the popularity of these items, they should make them available to sale, and if they sell out, they should make more of them. Full stop.

I feel very strongly about this and it's something the community needs to put its foot down on. The current GWP model is predatory and needs to stop.

Anyhow my vote's for 4970"

I would have bought Tahu in a heartbeat if it was a $20 retail set. But as a GWP I feel locked out financially from it. So I agree with this 100%, put these sets on retail shelves!

6781 SP-Striker - one of the coolest spaceships ever made!

@Firox_5000 said:
" @woosterlegos said:
" @Poppy2612 said:
" @vizzitor said:
"Obviously 4040 should be top of everyone's list."

Good god, I can't unsee that "

WTF is that? Somebody actually designed that, then another group of people approved, packaged, and marketed it? Really?
"

If we’re going down this route, maybe 3220 should be a notable option.

Maybe something from Pirate or Johnny Thunder era.

"

3220 My dad is the only choice, really.

Personally I would rather see them go down the route of the Galaxy Explorer and make these tribute/ anniversary sets available to purchase directly rather than as a GWP, as for sets, anything from Pirates, Adventurers or Rock Raiders.

A GWP of Good Guy from 2006 would be the pinnacle of both Lego GWPs and Bionicle.

None. I want the original from my childhood, and buy them one-by-one in good used condition with original box and instructions. No need for a redesigned version at all because that is not what I was dreaming of as a child.

For all the comments that these should be sold as standalone sets instead of GWPs… if LEGO believed they would sell, they would absolutely put them on the shelves. Galaxy explorer shows that there is lots of love and demand for classic themes among AFOLs but the deep discounts on this set show that there isn’t as much demand among the broader consumer audience.

It’s likely GWP or not at all for small sets from classic themes.

Almost certainly it doesn’t make commercial sense to give shelf space currently held by small star wars, Harry Potter, and friends sets to small Wolfpack, adventurers, ice planet sets.

Like this comment if you hate the old-school descending forum-style comments/reply system. Can we get nested comments, please?

6702: 4 Classic astronauts in colurs we've not seen before, some nice accessories & a couple of robots would be a great set. There'd be a stampede for the door to get it, I reckon.

6898 all day

6265: Sabre Island. This was the very first set I remember my mom buying me, and it fostered a subsequent obsession with the Pirates theme. I still have it now, 32 years later, and my son and I love playing with it! It would be fantastic to see modern part usage and design techniques applied to this classic!

I think it might be fun and different to get a Universal Technic set, like 8020. Not just cars, planes, and motorcycles, but something with six or seven builds in it, aimed at (I know, controversial!) younger builders and not just collectors. 8020 was my first Technic set and a set I love and believe still holds up today. As an intro to gears and other Technic elements, it's a perfect first step into a greater world beyond bricks and plates.

Keeping it realistic, I would love to see:

1) 6262 King Kahuka's Throne
2) 6265 Sabre Island
3) 6034 Black Monarch's Ghost

I have a strong bias toward anything pirate-related, having always been my favorite theme, but would probably be happy with any Adventurers, Aquazone, Castle, Space, or Western sets released 1989 - 1997, especially if it's Dragon Masters or Ice Planet 2002.

Having a lot of good memories of 6268 Renegade Runner from when I was a kid, I would absolutely love to see it as a GWP, but to be honest, I can't see LEGO doing it justice. Given that LEGO resorted to stickers for 40580 Blacktron Cruiser, I'm sure it's safe to say that there's zero chance they'd go so far as to bring the old compass back.

Past that, I can pretty much imagine how it would look if redone today as a price conscious GWP.

Preferably, I'd rather get more full retail releases of Legacy products like the recent Galaxy Explorer, but here goes:

2995: Adventurers Car
7414: Elephant Caravan
6155: Deep Sea Predator
8561: Nuhvok
8556: Boxor
8595: Takua and Pewku
1736: Wizard's Cart
1187: Glider
6034: Black Monarch's Ghost
6037: Witch's Windship
6048: Majisto's Magical Workshop
1906: Majisto's Tower
6250: Cross Bone Clipper
6268: Renegade Runner
4940: The Granite Grinder
6887: Allied Avenger
1737: Scorpion Detector
6898: Ice-Sat V
6943: Speed Sled
6907: Sonic Stinger
1195: Alien Encounter
7313: Red Planet Protector
7314: Recon Mech RP
6896: Celestial Forager
6886: Galactic Peace Keeper
6939: Saucer Centurion
6999: Cyber Saucer
1381: Vampire's Crypt
6496: Whirling Time Warper
6492: Hypno Cruiser

Also I threw this together a while back, around the time of the 90th Vote. It's based on factions more than themes. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hKSMsW_SA_SmgI6nT0Flhq2B6RMEVfxjpGn6vjGo-EE/edit?usp=sharing

@mikesray said:
"...Rather than locking these sets behind a GWP limit, make and sell them like any other set. Give it a 'Vintage' branding and let people simply buy them. Getting a GWP is great when it's something you're buying anyway, but I've never bought something I wasn't planning to buy already just to get a GWP. "

Completely agree. Transformers calls it "Generations" and they've been doing that line for over a decade now. Coincidentally, it was introduced right around the time all the kids who grew up with them were becoming parents themselves...

This last season was the first time I've ever done what you called out--buy when I wasn't planning to buy just for a GWP. Unfortunately, that's not sustainable--I bought items on my wish list that I knew I'd get sooner or later. I've now spent my budget out to June on the gamble that they won't release another amazing GWP before my budget catches back up. My wish list is now nearly exhausted. I'm not going to buy sets I don't want just for a GWP, so if they make another like the Cruiser, I'll have to pass and find it on the secondary market. Which means paying secondary market prices to scalpers, which means upsetting fans. Which I would hope Lego would want to avoid.

Just give me a goat from 7189 and it will be the best GWP ever.

There sure are a bunch of folks who ignored/ skipped "Contains under 250 pieces."

@MCNwakeboard said:
"6265 Sabre Island"

@chrisaw said:
"5958 Mummy’s Tomb

Pretty perfectly encapsulates the much loved Adventurers theme, and our hero Johnny Thunder’s quest for adventure."

These are excellent suggestions.

@legoapprentice said:
"For all the comments that these should be sold as standalone sets instead of GWPs… if LEGO believed they would sell, they would absolutely put them on the shelves. Galaxy explorer shows that there is lots of love and demand for classic themes among AFOLs but the deep discounts on this set show that there isn’t as much demand among the broader consumer audience.

It’s likely GWP or not at all for small sets from classic themes.

Almost certainly it doesn’t make commercial sense to give shelf space currently held by small star wars, Harry Potter, and friends sets to small Wolfpack, adventurers, ice planet sets."

Exactly. Too many Lego fans that think they are the only type of Lego buyers out there. We are the minority and whiny demands that we be catered to are exhausting and make me slightly ashamed to be a AFOL. More like adult-children fans of Lego. My kids are less whiny that many.

I’d love to see one of the first hobby sets from 1975:
391 1926 Renault
392 Formula One

@Hexx said:
"Ice planet ICE-Sat V 6898 !
Probably without magnets but there are a thousand way to make the lift arm connect to the rocket nowadays.
Ice planet is cool :) "

I am totaly for any of the ICE PLANET 2002 sets! The Blizzard Baron 7879 would be a great choice as well. BUT: I would prefer to spend 250€ or even more to buy a whole remade Ice planet theme instead of getting 1 gwp having set me back 250€ worth of sets i would mostly just buy for the parts...

I'm nominating 6175 Crystal Explorer Sub after discovering to my genuine shock that it was only 167 pieces.

I would go with either of these:
1584: Knight's Challenge
6075: Wolfpack Tower
6038: Wolfpack Renegades

I'm with the "please not as gift-with-purchases" crowd; I'd happily buy certain sets of that size reimagined, but I don't spend a lot on Lego otherwise so that would be, like, my major Lego purchase of the year all on its own. I wouldn't want (or, honestly, be able presently) to spend over £100 just to get it for 'free'.

That said: Adventurers. Or Rock Raiders. Or Stngrays. Any of those, I'd love to see revisited in the current styles. For specific sets, maybe:

As suggested above, 5958 Mummy's Tomb. 4970 Chrome Crusher. And... eh, the only Stingrays one I'd want to see would be the big boy itself, 6198 Stingray Stormer. Maybe a downscaled version of it to fit within the size requirements or something, because it's the stingray-looking design more than anything else that I love it for.

In the same vein of a downscaled version, 5976 River Expedition, also from Adventueres. The big Jungle sets apparently never made it to the UK, so I'd love to see that remedied with a modern reimagining of one of them.

7016 Viking Boat against the Wyvern Dragon

What if the re-imagining went the other direction? What would people think of a mini-6980 or 6973 ? Still big enough to hold minifigs of course, but scaled down into GWP size? Something akin to the little chibi-looking Star Wars microfighters like 75032 ?

Based on the feedback here, there is clearly strong support for a non GWP "Vintage" range. Remakes or reimagines of older sets. Do lego follow brickset polls at all?

There are so many good answers here. Anything Castle/Space/Pirate from '89-'95 would be fantastic.

6060 would probably be my top choice.

@shedjed said:
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Exactly. Too many Lego fans that think they are the only type of Lego buyers out there. We are the minority and whiny demands that we be catered to are exhausting and make me slightly ashamed to be a AFOL. More like adult-children fans of Lego. My kids are less whiny that many."

I see, so having an opinion different from yours makes us whiny adult-children. It's as if I'm on the internet here or something... The people who think we are a big enough base to be catered to are not being unreasonable. Obviously we're not the majority of fans, however there are enough of us that it's not inappropriately demanding for us to ask for sets (or maybe even entire lines) directed at us. You know, lines like, oh... the Icons line. For example. But of course, aiming a line of Lego sets at adults is a silly thing and could never work.

As for the hate against GWP, can you truly not see why people don't like them? Obviously they're good business for Lego, that's not the issue. They're annoying for fans who don't have the budget to reach threshold. It forces us to secondary markets which are always marked up and often hard to get. You can't see why fans are upset when they can't simply purchase a set that looks fun to them?

I agree with you, though, that some complaints take it a bit far. The practice is not unethical, but it is very business-first, fans-second. Which they have every right to do--but we have every right to be unhappy with it.

I also agree with you on another point (the more important point): M-Tron!

I vote for NONE because that has to become an option in the poll.

@MCNwakeboard said:
"6265: Sabre Island"

Any of the smaller Imperial Guards sets for sure. We’ve now had large and small retro sets for Space and Castle but only large for Pirates, so to not do it next would be a misfire. (And it’s my favorite theme!)

I will say that for the umptieth time: Lego should have a "Legacy' line(theme). Each year, the theme would release (at least) 3 sets (could be more, the more the merrier!). One would be low cost $10-$15, one would be mid range $40-$60 and another one could be large $100-up. All the designs would be a remake or re-imagining of some previous set. The 3 sets would not have to be part of the same 'previous' theme. For example: you could get a small Pirates set, a medium Rock Raiders and a large Exo-Force in a year and the next year you'd get a small Castle, a medium Aquanauts and a large Space. That would fulfil the 'need' of most fans (in due time) and from a Lego perspective it would be extremely difficult to 'exhaust' the theme.

They would not even have to assign designers for this. They could just ask all their designers: if you have something along those lines, submit it before a given date and it might be considered for the 'Legacy' theme (this would ensure variety in theme and building style).

As for the current polling process. Since we already had Pirates of Barracuda Bay, The Galaxy Explorer and the Castle, it would be nice to have an Adventurers set and specifically a Jungle set since there was an Egyptian line available in 2009 (Pharaoh's Quest). I would go with a re-imagining of: 5956 Expedition Balloon.

I'd (probably) love to see a re-imagining of old Technic sets as GWPs but Technic has never been discontinued as a theme - so it should not apply to this poll. On the other hand, I would like to see a re-imagining of ALL the original sets (850-858) for the 50th anniversary of Technic in a few years from now.

Some of my favorite sets from my childhood which I wouldn't mind being remade:
6265 : Sabre Island
6349 : Holiday Villa
6375: Trans Air Carrier
6521 : Emergency Repair Truck
6661 : Mobile TV Studio
6644 : Road Rebel
6671 : Utility Repair Lift

3220 Christian with gifts.

Like it or not, GWP is here to stay. It's not about whether or not GWP sets would sell more as straight purchases, it's about official Lego shops and Lego.com needing to give us a reason to shop there.

They can't routinely slash RRP out of respect for all the other retailers, so they have to add value rather than reduce spend. VIP points and GWP is surely a huge factor in any value-conscious shopper's decision to spend or not.

Personally, I wouldn't buy much at all directly from Lego if VIP and GWP weren't offsetting the comparatively poor deal otherwise.

I also nominate 6824, "Space Dart I." Given its smaller size, the threshold for a GWP like this would certainly be smaller than as of late.

However, like several others have opined already, I agree that the GWPs should be able to be purchased outright, since many of us have already stated that we'd buy such sets on their own. I understand why TLG does the GWP, to entice buyers to shell out more money in order to obtain them, but the after-market isn't too bad when attempting to buy harder-to-obtain sets (I've gotten several exclusives from The Lego House through eBay myself).

Paying a markup (perhaps $30) to another seller for something that I'd have to shell out $200 for something I probably don't want in order to get the exclusive set as a GWP is, in the end, a bargain, if you think about it.

As already mentioned by others:
- GWP is an awful concept and should be replaced by regular retail.
- Pirates, Castles or Adventurers should return. (6075, 6060, 6267, 6268, 5935, 5918, ...)
- Please don't use stickers.

6075: Wolfpack Tower

Echoing any and all previous "just release it retail" sentiments.

It has to be classic town.

6592: Vacation Hideaway

Any of the Classic Town houses. I adore this style (roofs made of bricks instead of angled plates) and would love to see it again: 1484, 6349, 6360, 6370, 6372, 6374, 6592

Also any of the Classic Pirate/Soldier structures: 6258, 6259, 6260, 6265, 6266, 6267, 6270

Monorail! Monorail! Monorail!

Oddly enough, 6672 has not been mentioned yet! It's iconic to me at least ;)

6592 is another favourite.

@essel said:
"Oddly enough, 6672 has not been mentioned yet! It's iconic to me at least ;)

6592 is another favourite."

Technically, 6672 has already been remade: 60267. (but for sure suspension parts were cool!)

There are a few, but the GWP things is getting out of hand and you as a leading site should not encourage it. I'll be happy to direct purchase re-imagined sets from most themes.

I was once subscribed to a service that digitized LPs of old movie soundtracks (Non blockbusters, never on CDs before, it was a film score fans oriented site) that sent a CD every month. It was a "blind subscription" as you never knew which movie score you're going to get. I will be happy to pay and subscribe to a TLG service that would provide me with a surprise classic re-imagine of an older sets every 2 months or so.

Small GWP:
castle: 1584 / 6060 Knight's Challenge
castle fights: 6030 Catapult (trying to resolve its tendency to trip over when shooting)
space: 6886 Galactic Peace Keeper (after blacktron GWP, space police GWP in dire need) or 6887: Allied Avenger

Large GWP:
castle: 6067 Guarded Inn (unless Ideas selects the medieval guarded inn) or 6066 Camouflaged Outpost
castle fights: 6062 Battering Ram or 6061 Siege Tower
space: 6897 Rebel Hunter (same as for Galactic Peace Keeper) (would be fun to have it recolored as SP1 !) or 6923: Particle Ioniser

Special Large GWP:
1789 Star Hawk II. It is much more than 250 parts, but use of modern parts would reduce it as well as some tweaks (removing the "tail"). And most important, is a design that would really benefit from an upgrade
6781 SP-Striker. Technically below the 250 parts limit, but I suppose the light and sound system would be too hard to replicate with modern parts for a GWP. And the design was already sleek and aged well (except for the "inner ship" that has always been ugly and useless)
6932 Stardefender 200. Probably a bit too big for GWP. How would the cockpit be redesigned ?

My favs for an RRRR (retro/re-imagined/re-release) in the around 250 - 300 part count Gw/P range...
5958 Mummy's Tomb
7417 Temple of Mount Everest
6951 Robot Command Center
6078 Royal Drawbridge
6263: Imperial Outpost
6264: Forbidden Cove
And why not a 250 to 300 piece re-imagined 375 Castle
Now, IMPORTANT, since we're helping Lego with some of this marketing, can Brickset lobby to get us loyal Brickset followers and contributors some free ViP points for all of this? I hope everyone can agree on that.

To elaborate on my earlier sentiment:

GWPs are bad for the community, good for Lego.
Lego transforms what would otherwise be a $20-30 purchase into a $200 purchase, often moving stagnant backstock in the process.

But not every fan has $200 to drop every month or an established Bricklink store to fence the sets for a break even. In fact, I'd argue MOST Lego fans don't spend $200 per month.

That being said, it's not "GWP or nothing", as a previous commenter said - Lego is more than capable of distributing these sets from their online and in store platforms, with or without a $200 purchase to justify it. In fact, they'd technically make "more" money selling them than giving them away for free.

Do I think they should put them on all retail shelves like Walmart/Target/etc? No of course not, that's a logistical nightmare.

But Lego is more than capable of selling GWPs direct from Shop at Home or via Lego Stores if that's what they're trying to promote! If they only cared about site traffic or store traffic, there you go - back to ye olden days of Shop At Home exclusive products of the 90s/00s.

And guess what, Lego can STILL offer them for free with large purchases to help move them.

At the end of the day, nothing is stopping Lego from just selling them as online-only products, except for the fact that doing so doesn't force you to spend $200+.

I hate to say it, but the only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that Lego is exploiting us beyond the usual/acceptable, weaponizing nostalgia and exclusivity to make people spend significantly more, rather than as a celebration of past themes, or a thank you to the fans who supported the company this long.

This goes for ALL GWPs, not just these.

I am *imploring* you all to put your foot down before this gets out of hand and becomes normalized.

Lego can and will push the boundaries on GWP limits. $200 was already absurd, and I would not be surprised if we saw $250 or even $300 thresholds in the future. Or at the very least an absurd proliferation of GWPs.

@krysto2002 said:
"To elaborate on my earlier sentiment:

GWPs are bad for the community, good for Lego.
Lego transforms what would otherwise be a $20-30 purchase into a $200 purchase, often moving stagnant backstock in the process.

But not every fan has $200 to drop every month or an established Bricklink store to fence the sets for a break even. In fact, I'd argue MOST Lego fans don't spend $200 per month.

That being said, it's not "GWP or nothing", as a previous commenter said - Lego is more than capable of distributing these sets from their online and in store platforms, with or without a $200 purchase to justify it. In fact, they'd technically make "more" money selling them than giving them away for free.

Do I think they should put them on all retail shelves like Walmart/Target/etc? No of course not, that's a logistical nightmare.

But Lego is more than capable of selling GWPs direct from Shop at Home or via Lego Stores if that's what they're trying to promote! If they only cared about site traffic or store traffic, there you go - back to ye olden days of Shop At Home exclusive products of the 90s/00s.

And guess what, Lego can STILL offer them for free with large purchases to help move them.

At the end of the day, nothing is stopping Lego from just selling them as online-only products, except for the fact that doing so doesn't force you to spend $200+.

I hate to say it, but the only conclusion that can be drawn from this is that Lego is exploiting us beyond the usual/acceptable, weaponizing nostalgia and exclusivity to make people spend significantly more, rather than as a celebration of past themes, or a thank you to the fans who supported the company this long.

This goes for ALL GWPs, not just these.

I am *imploring* you all to put your foot down before this gets out of hand and becomes normalized.

Lego can and will push the boundaries on GWP limits. $200 was already absurd, and I would not be surprised if we saw $250 or even $300 thresholds in the future. Or at the very least an absurd proliferation of GWPs."

I can NOT let such a passionate, vehement diatribe go unaddressed. I'm like a moth to a flame.

Yet, I do love a good Lego™ bashing! They so deserve it for so many reasons in the last few years. They're just to damn big fer der britches!

On the other hand, I just feel that your argument is very weak. Lego™ conducted a survery of AFOLs and it clearly reaffirmed what they already undoubtedly knew. AFOLs are motivated by GWPs. They clearly know that they make more from GWPs than selling the GWPs as small sets.

Also, it's the closest thing the company has to regular discounts. Lego hates to discount the prices of sets because discounts undermine their position with their independent sales partners. But, they still want to generate sales within their outlets. What else are they to do?

I'd much rather have GWPs that generate such fierce FOMO than the old, crappy naff that we used to get. If the FOMO is keeping you up at night, I suggest therapy.

StyleCounselor would recommend that you focus and channel the anger that courses through you. Let it build and rage. Then, act on it by going for a walk and saying hello to a person you find attractive. Have a drink at your local watering hole and talk to someone at the bar. Join a co-ed sports league. Find a new hobby. Or, best of all, go to your bins of Lego pieces and build some dark, freaky, Giger-esque MOC.

It'll all be ok...

Now, don't get me started on that bullshit color-matching issue!!!!

My vote goes to either old-school Technic (one of the old Universal sets like 8034 would be great due to the number of things you could build with it) or old-school Space such as 6879 Blizzard Barron (but only if they can bring back trans-fluro-orange for it) or 6886 Galactic Piece Keeper or 6895 Spy Trak 1 to go with the Blactron set. (the windscreen from the Blactron set in trans-red would work perfectly for either of these 2 sets)

@dimc said:
[[ @Ridgeheart said:
[[ @mikesray said:
[[Unless, you know, there's a direct line out there for me (and for us, us horrible old people who want nothing but to relive our childhoods, or to buy the sets that we couldn't afford when we were kids).]]

I've acquired quite a collection of vintage stuff for cheap on the secondary market. You have to be willing to buy bins and boxes of mixed stuff, but there are some fantastic deals if you are patient. I also sell duplicates or sets I'm not interested in to fund my acquisitions. If you have time and the energy for it, it's great. If I consider some hauls all by themselves, the number of classic sets I've gotten for "free*" or even paid is pretty incredible.

*free meaning I have sold stuff and made back more than I paid. Obviously there is a time component, as well as supplementing some bricks from my collection to make them complete enough to sell.]]

Your not wrong. It's definitely the cheapest and most interesting way to get old stuff, especially vintage. It's also very rewarding to rescue old sets from some rich kid's piece bin.

I just acquired my sweetest haul ever. I bought two medium boxes for $80 because I saw parts of 9474 and 70616.

Yet, inside I also found all the pieces including the minifigs in great condition for 9473, 79003, 70917, 75157 and 75158! Ahsoka's worth $200 alone. There's another $450 just in minifigs.

It is very time consuming, but fun. I'm probably going to take a break for awhile, and enjoy opening some new set boxes.

3220 My Dad definitely needs a remake. I don’t think the original was creepy enough.

6702 Space Mini-Figures, or any space minifig pack

6716 Covered Wagon
I really loved this one as a child, the best Wild West set in my opinion.

918 Space Transport! I know we can make one from the updated Galaxy Explorer, but it would have blown my mind (even more) if we'd also got a 918 as a GWP.

Pizza To Go 6350

6235 or 6030 I’d love

Agree that it should be Town's turn - even if there's less love for the theme in these comments than Pirates/Castle/Space. Surprising lack of support for 1980s era Train though.

Houses always seem to go down well, I think my pick would be 6372 with a proper brick built awning rather than those daft stickers.

I'm also liking the fuel Tanker suggestions, though Shell would be awkward for well documented reasons and there has already been a newer Octan Tanker.

6362 is a good shout too, as is 6374.

May I be permitted a leftfield suggestion? 250 or 200-2. Either with the 1980s builds inside reimagined with 2020s parts, OR at last an ideas book of the same concept but taking current day sets and combining them to show today's kids what can be done. Discuss!

Classic Space:
6927 All Terrain Vehicle
452-1 Mobile Tracking Station / 894 Mobile Ground Tracking Station
926 Command Centre

I wonder if a limited solution to the unpopular GWP 'price-gating' would be to extend the availability of some GWP sets beyond a few weeks of availability. There are several valid reasons for not wanting/being able to spend the GWP threshold amount at the exact time of year the GWP is released and in stock (e.g., awaiting later releases, other wanted sets being out of stock, etc.). If each new GWP set were to be slowly phased out after 0.5-1 year, one could imagine a business model whereby buyers could pick one out of multiple currently available GWP sets upon reaching the spending threshold.

I do not understand the desire for GWP Town sets at all... :-\

As a GWP, it would be the original set simply redone using modern parts and building techniques. The true appeal of a GWP banking on nostalgia like this is going to be in the mini-figures or a few unique parts.

As far as GWP's are concerned and the endless complaining regarding them, they're obviously intended to be an incentive for people to purchase directly from LEGO in lieu of discounts or sales. What's the point of purchasing a $200 LEGO set direct from LEGO if you can purchase it cheaper or on sale from Amazon for $180? Simply put, the point of it being a GWP vanishes if you could just outright purchase it.

If you can't afford it at the time, you can't afford it at the time. Life goes on. If you want it, buy it on the 2nd hand market. Sure, you'll pay $40 instead of $30, but it's still "cheaper" than the original $200 spend threshold. I'm not sure what the problem is? The complaints against it come from such a weird and misinformed place of entitlement it's hard for me to understand.