Wow. If LEGO adds an AI module, we have SkyNet taking over the construction industry shortly.

Thats a serious looking build!!!

WHo buys this? This will not even pull something up without breaking,

Absolutely baffled to learn there apparently exists a market for utterly mundane things like this to become the main feature of an entire room. I could get several of my white whales and a new shelf to put them on for this price and amount of space.

I never would've thought anyone outside the Duplo age range would be this interested in construction equipment. especially at almost 25¢ per piece. But if it got past focus groups, apparently someone wants it.

Rationality left the building....

£500 for 2800 pieces, probably a third of which are small pins? That seems somewhat extortionate. I know it has Control+, but even so!

ehhhhhh its cool, but too expensive. im not really seeing the £500 value, despite its size, and the control plus brings this down significantly. props to the designer for sticking it out and still releasing it after all the stability problems from last version though. thats the reason it was pushed back apparently.

It's 680$ actually)

That sure is one big ass Technic crane

@ShilohCyan said:
"the only people I know of that are THIS interested in construction equipment are playing with Duplo.

Not trying to be a hater. I just don't understand who this is for. Who has 2 cubic meters of their home to dedicate to this that isn't better spent on a bookshelf that can hold dozens of other models? even if you can afford it, who has an entire room to dedicate to this?"

Like millions of other people who waste thousands of dollars per year on Lego ? Maybe ?

I like it, just not the Control+. Pricewise, I expect it to become heavily discounted.
The tracks don't look much like the real thing. If I'd buy it, it would be tempting to extend it to something like this: https://dir.indiamart.com/items/liebherr-lr-13000-3000-ton-crawler-crane-s12193.html (although the crane arm in the LEGO model is actually what most of the LR13000 look like afaik). That would likely make it a bit more challenging to control.

Proportions are way off, especially the tracks and the chibi boom.

It's too big and the app will be pretty much defunct when LEGO stop supporting it. Two nos make a no.

Seems very expensive, and the Control+ puts me off. So probably won't be getting this.

I'll stick with Rough Terrain Crane (42082), a $300 set w/ (1) motor and a brilliant set of gearboxes, which will still work in 10 years when the Control+ app is deprecated...

Aw man, no metal hook. :-(

That thing looks epic.

(Incredibly expensive, but epic nonetheless).

Its impressive and the photos look good, but I just cant see who is buying this. This will be over $1000 AUD and a handful of Technic enthousiasts or Technic construction set collectors will buy it but I feel this just wont move off shelves or sell on the Lego shop AU at all.

Pretty cool. But yeah, same as others. Cost + App = No.

I think my Lego days are finally coming to a close, after only 45 years lol. Too many Technics per year made it impossible as a completist, then came the phone app. Then Disney killed Star Wars. Now, modulars are getting too expensive and instruction book too thick, yet pages too small. Kids are all grown now too, so can no longer use them as an excuse haha. It was a good run.

Well, at least it's not a car! haha!
I like that we're getting a good old function-driven technic set.

What I don't like is the sheer size. At this size the functionality becomes dwarved by... the thing itself. I guess technic fans deserve something titanic-sized too, now that titanic sets are becoming the norm (?!) but idk. I think the bucket wheel excavator was a much better choice for subject matter.

Well, this is definitely not for me anyway again. So what do I know?

@CCC said:
"It's too big and the app will be pretty much defunct when LEGO stop supporting it. Two nos make a no."

can you please stop perpetuating the false assumption that the app things will become defunct in the future? We have a "community" of dedicated coders, tinkerers and curious minds that work hard to bring back to life any piece of technology, from old tools, old cars to vintage computers and lego hubs. It's all there, on the internet, just one google search away.

I was pretty hyped for this but now not so much. Booms are half the length they should be to match the cranes bottom section. Plus $1000 AUD (sigh)…. might get the John Deer skidder instead.

@ShilohCyan said:
"Absolutely baffled to learn there apparently exists a market for utterly mundane things like this to become the main feature of an entire room. I could get several of my white whales and a new shelf to put them on for this price and amount of space.

I never would've thought anyone outside the Duplo age range would be this interested in construction equipment. especially at almost 25¢ per piece. But if it got past focus groups, apparently someone wants it. "

You know Lego Technic has been producing construction equipment since 1977 right?

@LegoBoi69 said:
" @ShilohCyan said:
"Absolutely baffled to learn there apparently exists a market for utterly mundane things like this to become the main feature of an entire room. I could get several of my white whales and a new shelf to put them on for this price and amount of space.

I never would've thought anyone outside the Duplo age range would be this interested in construction equipment. especially at almost 25¢ per piece. But if it got past focus groups, apparently someone wants it. "

If u pay rrp for this then you need help. Technic through my own experiences always gets discounted, and ive purchased big technic sets with as much as 40% off. Just be patient and get when discounted."

Things are rarely discounted to any significant extent here. Unless you go on Amazon and make use of one of the least ethical companies in the west on the retail side of things.

And don't worry, I wouldn't be caught dead paying that full price. But that just narrows down options a lot to almost nothing.

2nd hand has been my go-to for a while now anyway

@thor96 said:
" @CCC said:
"It's too big and the app will be pretty much defunct when LEGO stop supporting it. Two nos make a no."

can you please stop perpetuating the false assumption that the app things will become defunct in the future? We have a "community" of dedicated coders, tinkerers and curious minds that work hard to bring back to life any piece of technology, from old tools, old cars to vintage computers and lego hubs. It's all there, on the internet, just one google search away."

I know. I use pybricks myself and have done for quite a while. However, the way LEGO ditch their support for technology is dreadful especially after customers have paid for the app through the set price. With such a product they should state how long it will be officially supported.

Why pay so much for a product like this without a dedicated remote control (as in the past) that LEGO won't care about supporting once it is no longer on the shelves.

@ShilohCyan said:
"Absolutely baffled to learn there apparently exists a market for utterly mundane things like this to become the main feature of an entire room. I could get several of my white whales and a new shelf to put them on for this price and amount of space.

I never would've thought anyone outside the Duplo age range would be this interested in construction equipment. especially at almost 25¢ per piece. But if it got past focus groups, apparently someone wants it. "

Who hurt you?

@ShilohCyan said:
"I never would've thought anyone outside the Duplo age range would be this interested in construction equipment."

To quote Bart Simpson, “What an odd thing to say”.

Considering the source material... This does not look very good. They should have gone with an unlicensed crawler crane and save us all some money. I mean, it's a big crawler crane, but not an accurate LR13000.

I would be 'the market' for this. I build it, display/play with it for a month or two and then put it back in its box and rebuilt it at a later date (wash, rinse, repeat). Currently on display 42145 - soon to be dismantled!

However, have you seen this thing? Two third/half of the booms are missing. Assuming that these yellow latticed booms (I count 10 of them) are roughly $12 each. you need at least an extra 10 (possibly much more) to get this to spec. So add another $120 on top (assuming they are available on pick-a-brick (otherwise you need to buy several copy of the set to get the real thing)) - this will need to have a serious rebate to become somewhat enticing. I also guess that this set has 1 meter of rope/thread - where it should probably have 10.

Certainly a disappointment for something that was highly anticipated but I'll wait for the review - and then the discount. Might have to pass altogether.

For that price, anyone remember 42100: 2 control+ 7 motors, lots of (new) linear actuators. New parts, should not create more expensive sets, this is part of being in the business of making plastic models.

Once again a set that is unnecessarily expensive due to a licence, and those ridiculously overpriced Control+ components. Why the licence anyway? It doesn't look very close to the real thing to begin with. Could have simply been called Crawler Crane.

Technic sets with that amount of pieces should be 200 Euro max, especially since there's hundreds of pins involved.

I think it looks great. I don't care about the model not having the proportions of the real thing, that's just not going to be feasible in Lego. And it appears to have all the functions one might expect. Certainly ticks the boxes for my wishlist.

It is a bit pricey but there are a lot of large pieces & the motors. I wonder if it could be fitted with the battery boxes and operated without the app.

The key for me, however, will be whether this can actually lift any mass of substance. I don't expect anything even proportionally close to the real thing. But if it's another Lego crane that can't stably lift a load, it is a bit pointless.

@ShilohCyan said:
"Absolutely baffled to learn there apparently exists a market for utterly mundane things like this to become the main feature of an entire room. I could get several of my white whales and a new shelf to put them on for this price and amount of space.

I never would've thought anyone outside the Duplo age range would be this interested in construction equipment. especially at almost 25¢ per piece. But if it got past focus groups, apparently someone wants it. "

Ever seen what a heavy-equipment operator is paid? There's a market.

@ShilohCyan said:
"Absolutely baffled to learn there apparently exists a market for utterly mundane things like this to become the main feature of an entire room. I could get several of my white whales and a new shelf to put them on for this price and amount of space.

I never would've thought anyone outside the Duplo age range would be this interested in construction equipment. especially at almost 25¢ per piece. But if it got past focus groups, apparently someone wants it. "

"I don't understand [thing], therefore anyone who likes [thing] must be a child."

(I agree on the insane price, tho)

For comparison:

https://www.amazon.com/DWIU-Engineering-Construction-Collection-Compatible/dp/B0BBLYVKWY

@HOBBES said:
"For comparison:

https://www.amazon.com/DWIU-Engineering-Construction-Collection-Compatible/dp/B0BBLYVKWY"
Now that's what the LEGO version should have been at that price.

I know I'm saying this again again under every one of these and I don't care. There is no single reason to make any of these machines licensed. No one would care, if the crane looked kinda similar to this, but didn't have "Liebherr" plastered on a few pieces.
Also, please stop with the Control+ garbage!

@thor96 said:
" @CCC said:
"It's too big and the app will be pretty much defunct when LEGO stop supporting it. Two nos make a no."

can you please stop perpetuating the false assumption that the app things will become defunct in the future? We have a "community" of dedicated coders, tinkerers and curious minds that work hard to bring back to life any piece of technology, from old tools, old cars to vintage computers and lego hubs. It's all there, on the internet, just one google search away."

It's not open source, I wouldn't count on it! Besides, it is really telling, when a company doesn't support it's product/ doesn't make it somewhat future proof and consumers have to figure out a way to unbrick the devices, they have paid for, themselves. (This has happened multiple times already with Lego)
In my opinion, the EU should regulate more against abandoning software support on pretty much any piece of consumer electronics.

So mixed feelings.....at first glance I quite liked it. Well, except for the insane price obviously....

But the longer I look at it, the more obvious the flaws become. The proportions just don't make any sense, it's almost like it's made from two components build at entirely different scales. And this is especially painful for such a licensed set. And looking at the construction, it shouldn't have been that difficult to make it significantly bigger.

I also do wonder about the stuff inside. We see only one hub with three motors, but the suggestion of wo hubs and six motors does make more sense. But that still wouldn't justify the price. And yes, I am aware that the RRP of the C+ components is beyond the price of gold or printer ink, but that still doesn't make it any better. If I'm being VERY generous, I'd say this would be a €200 set with another €200 on electric stuff put into it, which would make it a €400 set. But that's me still being VERY generous.

But most of all, a set priced like this should be pretty much perfect and without serious compromises, nothing more than a few little nitpicks. Lego IS very expensive, but that's a lot easier to swallow if they would offer a (nearly) flawless product. And that makes it all the more disappointing to see that this set just isn't.

I think I've already bought my last new Technic sets. It used to be one of my favorite themes but lately very few items on offer interest me much and they are mostly elaborations of smaller but more manageable sets I already own.

Mixed feelings. My first reaction was WOW, COOL!! But then I checked it against some pictures of the real thing and realized how much they shrank the booms. It should be at least twice as tall, although there do appear to be several configurations of the real thing, not all of them are super tall. I still am drooling over the new truss pieces though!

I feel it needs to be bigger. The jib section needs to be longer to make it thinner compared to the rest of the crane. Compared to the real LR13000 the proportions looks off.

I would gladly trade off the useless Controls system that require a mobile phone for more jib sections, a simple motor and battery pack and gearbox.

Not keen on Control system as not sure how long Lego will support the app. The Lego set will last a lifetime, but the phone and app will be outdated as soon as a new model comes out.