I wonder if it was worth all the bad press and to burn all those influencers and get them banned off social media for reporting on publicly available information just to reveal it officially 2 days later.

Still makes me laugh that Lego insists on an official reveals long after things have already been massively leaked online, and issues its various cease and desist and take down demands. Should have just officially posted it themselves when things became apparent it was out in the wild already...

That said, gonna stand by my comments on the original reveal post that these feel more Disney Princess then 'Oz' in design to me. They're not my personal cup of tea, but those buildable figures are some of the best Lego has done so far imo.

Costs seem a little high for what you get again though... Can see these getting discounts at retailers within the first month.

Is it me or are these not that great? Significantly worse than most friends sets

I only see the transparent leaves.

@GirlWoman said:
"I wonder if it was worth all the bad press and to burn all those influencers and get them banned off social media for reporting on publicly available information just to reveal it officially 2 days later."

TLG is not the only one in the picture here, the license holders are often the ones establishing (and then enforcing) the reveal dates. Universal has been terrible with this in many other areas too, especially in getting videos demonetized or removed from Youtube. And we notice how (at least to my recollection) nothing like this ever happens with internal IPs. When you're working with Disney or Universal, there are other rules going on that aren't set up by TLG.

I still don't understand the obsession with finding leaks a couple hours before the actual reveals, seems like a lot of time and energy and heartache spent on something that amounts to nothing. Guarantee that no one who got in trouble this time would have gotten in trouble if they were just linking to the website that posted the images. But everyone needs their piece of the pie, I suppose.

The middest musical to have ever midded a mid. Call me when we've got Mamma Mia sets, please.

I'll keep my eye out for Elphaba's minidoll hat for my fantasy MOC lineup, but otherwise I can pass.

The sets look fine, but I'm not feeling the NEED for them.

I think these are pretty cool. And--more importantly--so do my kids, who fit the target demographic for these sets!

I might get Emerald City just for parts, but those brickbuilt figures are a nice departure from the typical Brickheadz we've seen so much of, and the style of minidoll lends to those figs very well. I hope we get more of this style across themes rather than only brickheadz. I'll probably pick that set up at the very least.

In the eternal words of Lego batman...."WHAT....THE HECK.....IS THAT"

@fakespacesquid said:
" @GirlWoman said:
"I wonder if it was worth all the bad press and to burn all those influencers and get them banned off social media for reporting on publicly available information just to reveal it officially 2 days later."

TLG is not the only one in the picture here, the license holders are often the ones establishing (and then enforcing) the reveal dates. Universal has been terrible with this in many other areas too, especially in getting videos demonetized or removed from Youtube. And we notice how (at least to my recollection) nothing like this ever happens with internal IPs. When you're working with Disney or Universal, there are other rules going on that aren't set up by TLG.

I still don't understand the obsession with finding leaks a couple hours before the actual reveals, seems like a lot of time and energy and heartache spent on something that amounts to nothing. Guarantee that no one who got in trouble this time would have gotten in trouble if they were just linking to the website that posted the images. But everyone needs their piece of the pie, I suppose. "

This wasn't leaked. The sets popped up in stores. TLG is at least partially to blame here, even if it is Universal that took action this time. TLG agreed to the licensing deal after all.

@GirlWoman said:
" @fakespacesquid said:
" @GirlWoman said:
"I wonder if it was worth all the bad press and to burn all those influencers and get them banned off social media for reporting on publicly available information just to reveal it officially 2 days later."

TLG is not the only one in the picture here, the license holders are often the ones establishing (and then enforcing) the reveal dates. Universal has been terrible with this in many other areas too, especially in getting videos demonetized or removed from Youtube. And we notice how (at least to my recollection) nothing like this ever happens with internal IPs. When you're working with Disney or Universal, there are other rules going on that aren't set up by TLG.

I still don't understand the obsession with finding leaks a couple hours before the actual reveals, seems like a lot of time and energy and heartache spent on something that amounts to nothing. Guarantee that no one who got in trouble this time would have gotten in trouble if they were just linking to the website that posted the images. But everyone needs their piece of the pie, I suppose. "

This wasn't leaked. The sets popped up in stores. TLG is at least partially to blame here, even if it is Universal that took action this time. TLG agreed to the licensing deal after all."

TLG is to blame because retailers can't read? I don't think I can get behind that one.

Now that we have full resolution renders of these, I noticed a new chrysanthemum element in the dormitory trunk set! They have it in trans-yellow and dark pink as lamp shades, but I imagine the piece was actually developed for Animal Crossing (like the peach).

@GrizBe said:
"Still makes me laugh that Lego insists on an official reveals long after things have already been massively leaked online, and issues its various cease and desist and take down demands. Should have just officially posted it themselves when things became apparent it was out in the wild already..."

Blame the studio/disrributor. As a licensing partner, TLG is bound by whatever rules were imposed by the company with the most prominent screen credit.

@fakespacesquid said:
"I still don't understand the obsession with finding leaks a couple hours before the actual reveals, seems like a lot of time and energy and heartache spent on something that amounts to nothing. Guarantee that no one who got in trouble this time would have gotten in trouble if they were just linking to the website that posted the images. But everyone needs their piece of the pie, I suppose. "

Most likely Universal signed an exclusive media deal with some other company, and is contractually bound to let them have first crack at any announcements. Let it slide, and it puts the studio in breach of contract.

Now that these are no longer behind the curtain, can I pay attention to them?

No train, no sale.

@Librarian1976 said:
" @KyloRen0806 said:
"They are some nice sets, but won’t be getting them. Only for Jeff Goldblum then. Won’t see the movie either, but they remind me a little of Elves. I think they captured Ariana Grande’s face pretty well. Have any of these actors appeared in LEGO before though, if one counts the SDCC The Collector from Marvel?"

Jeff Goldblum has had (at least) two Ian Malcolm minifigures.
The guy who played The Collector in Marvel also played a throw away character named DJ in Star Wars 8, the title of which is escaping me right now because—in general—I try to forget that movie and trilogy. In any event, he had a minifigure that was a GWP.

"

First person to get both a minifigure AND minidoll?

Unless I'm missing someone, I think this makes Jeff Goldblum the first person to have both a minifig and a minidoll based on him

My familiarity with Wicked is pretty low. I know every word to Popular by heart, but I’ve never read the book or watched any of the musical. I’m not particularly excited for this film in the first place, but I kinda love three out of four of these sets! I might have to pick a few up.

As an adult minidoll lover I’m just thrilled to see more themes in this style. The detailed outfits, namely Glinda’s ball gown, definitely necessitated minidoll parts that allow more printing and wrap around coloring that most modern minifigs still beg for. Luckily for everyone who find themselves commenting how grossed out they are by the mere sight of a minidoll, these characters look pretty easy to turn into minifigs, as there’s no shortage of pre-existing pink dress and witch prints.

The castle looks good. I love the versatility of the dorm turning into a display piece. That’s my guess for the best seller. The $30 set seems pretty weak. But the buildable dolls? Yes please! I hope we see Lego Friends take a crack at that. Or just more themes in general. They’ve got a certain charm I’ve never seen from a buidlable Lego figure before. Next stop, minidoll mech?

@GirlWoman said:
" @PurpleDave said:
" @GrizBe said:
"Still makes me laugh that Lego insists on an official reveals long after things have already been massively leaked online, and issues its various cease and desist and take down demands. Should have just officially posted it themselves when things became apparent it was out in the wild already..."

Blame the studio/disrributor. As a licensing partner, TLG is bound by whatever rules were imposed by the company with the most prominent screen credit."

But Lego agreed to these rules in licensing the products. If Lego wouldn't agree with these practices (that are illegal btw) then Lego wouldn't have signed the deal. The root of all evil once again that the money was just too good."

We can't have companies making money, now can we?

Truth of the matter is that without licenses like these, LEGO would probably be a distant memory by now. Also, nothing illegal here. Their lawyers know very well how things work.

Well, I have zero interest in this franchise, but the sets look fine to me, the price per piece / volume of stuff for the price point seems OK especially for a licensed set. Each set contains both major characters so affordability to fans seems decent- I’d say Lego has got it right for the most part with these sets.

@Librarian1976:
The Collector was Benicio del Toro, but Goldblum's Grandmaster did get a minifig in 76088.

@yellowcastle said:
"First person to get both a minifigure AND minidoll?"
Are we counting voice roles? If so, there are several Disney characters who have appeared in minidoll form through Disney Princess, and minifig form through either the CMF line or the generic Disney theme. If we're only counting live-action, it might be the live-action Ariel (minidoll in 43229, minifig in 43225), played by Halle Bailey.

@GirlWoman:
Media contracts would have been signed in the US, where they're absolutely legal. If TLG's licensing contract was signed in the US, I don't see where there would be a problem. This type of contract wouldn't prohibit anyone else from posting about it, just that some media company gets first crack at everything. Until they announce it, the images would be treated as confidential information, which would be how Universal could issue C&D orders or get images/videos pulled by the hosting company. This does get a bit sticky when copies end up in the public, where anyone can walk up and look at them. Frequently, these days, those sets will be street-dated in the computer system, and the store won't be allowed to even ring them up (both Target and Walmart have had notices pop up at checkout informing the cashier to confiscate stuff that I found shelved early).

I'm pretty pleased with these sets for the most part! I have mixed feelings about the Wicked books themselves, but I remember the musical being a lot of fun, and I'm a very big fan of the original Oz books so can definitely appreciate how many different new stories they have inspired.

My biggest gripe is that Shiz university appears to be decorated in shades of blue — at least in the book, it was located in the Gillikin country, in which case its primary color ought to be purple! Traditionally, the four countries that make up the Land of Oz are color-coded, just as the Emerald City is. Perhaps in the film they will be relocating it to the Munchkin country? Or perhaps like the 1939 film they will simply not bother with much of that sort of regional color-coding.

It also surprises me that there are no animals in these sets, since I remember talking animal characters being a BIG deal in both the book and musical, and also since animal characters tend to be a really huge selling point in other LEGO themes.

On a more positive note, the brick-built dolls look very fun, and are something I've been hoping to see LEGO try their hand at for years now! I'd love to see more in other themes (including dolls of non-licensed characters which can potentially prioritize customizable outfits and hairstyles over matching the specific costumes and hairstyles of their on-screen counterparts), but this definitely seems like a versatile style that LEGO could do a lot more with in the future.

There's also a lot of really beautifully constructed furniture in this theme, both in the Emerald City set and the dorm room that converts into a jewelry box/storage case. And the new rose/carnation plate used for both flowers and light fixtures in these sets looks very versatile indeed! And the shapes and varying shades of green in the design of the Emerald City do a great job echoing its fantasy art deco architecture from the 1939 film.

The hidden QR codes are also a neat way of incorporating the actual musical numbers of the film/play into the sets themselves beyond just their accompanying costumes and scenery. Props to LEGO for recognizing how important the songs are to Wicked's mainstream popularity, and for figuring out an unobtrusive way to connect them with the sets.

All in all, while I usually tend to prefer Oz stories that draw more heavily on the original books than just on the 1939 film, as well as ones that center child protagonists on magical adventures over adult/college-age characters dealing with adult academic, vocational, and political anxieties, I realize few stories like that really reach the level of mainstream awareness these days that they'd need to justify a LEGO theme.

So I'm mostly gonna hope this Wicked adaptation does well enough to be enjoyable in its own right, and to get more people interested in Oz characters and Oz stories (including filmmakers who might be willing to face the challenge of creating or adapting Oz stories that draw more heavily on books beyond "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" and its 1939 film adaptation).

@TeaWeevil said:
"Unless I'm missing someone, I think this makes Jeff Goldblum the first person to have both a minifig and a minidoll based on him"
Ming-Na Wen could also be since she's both the voice of Mulan and played Fennec Shand.