Is the flat version of https://brickset.com/parts/6254783/shell-3x9x2-w-4-85-hole-no-1 new?

No F1 cars?

Oh look, more cars.

Volvo's a day one buy, though.

@ShilohCyan said:
"No F1 cars?"

They were only doing them in the early part of the year. No more will release this year.

Freight pickup system on Moon will be differently from that on Mars.
I would have preferred the colour scheme from last years space sets.

So, we’re going with the Russian livery for the lunar thing right?

Any reason why 42209 is not in this overview? It’s the best of the wave, in my opinion.

Not sure if there's going to be a version of 42213 released in another colour such as, say, white...

I feel like they misspelled “rover” in the title of that lunar set.

The excavator was the only one I was interested in, until I saw the price. Yikes!

Very poor indeed, I think Technic has had its day by the look of these. Unless the 50 year anniversary in 2027 is the year for something extra special

Look at all that delicious teal!!!

Oh wow, they all look good.

The ford bronco is a good deal at $60…other than that unfortunately, kind of disappointed with the entire wave. Really feeling that car fatigue now. Also, I wonder if they priced the excavator in anticipation of reduced sales cause those margins must be absolutely insane.

Is the excavator not remote controlled? Looking forward to more info.

A magnificent lineup.

Is that some sort of new technic triangle panel piece on that Volvo excavator? I don't recall ever seeing it before.

the 42214 Lamborghini Revuelto reminds me of the 42173: Koenigsegg Jesko Absolut Grey Hypercar which also reminds me of the 42156: PEUGEOT 9X8 24H Le Mans Hybrid Hypercar
Same grey's, same shapes (peugeot obviously has a wackier front end).

42210 2 Fast 2 Furious Nissan Skyline GT-R (R34) Car could be ok - not keen on that price though - yuck.

The Bronco and Ferrari are probably my only definitive pickups (after discount). Will wait to see how reviews and possible discounts on the others shake out in the year to come.

I think I'm just about done with the endless wave of licenced Technic cars, although I might make an exception for 42210 - I loved that movie and as a kid I was sure I would have that car when I grew up. Didn't happen, but the movie is still great.

42209 looks cool too, but what drugs were they on when they priced it?

42211 is tempting - I'm a sucker for space stuff (though I haven't picked up the VTOL yet). Is this the first time chain links and treads have been available in white?

@TheNameWasTaken said:
"42209 looks cool too, but what drugs were they on when they priced it?"
Well, maybe they first emptied that bottle that for some reason is shown in the cab......I wonder what that is about.....

Though honestly, compared to most of the other sets, this hardly the worst offender here. And more importantly: It seems like a proper Technic set with lost of (often exposed) gears! Now if only those gears would have been just grey or black instead of bright blue or green....

A Bronco! Yes! A Bronco! Oh yeah! I have been counting down for this set to release. A Bronco! Woo-Hoo!

The cars are all generally pretty cool (both the Skyline and Land Rover in particular look great), the wheel loader is good though a little pricey, the Lunar Outpost is... an interesting rover of ambiguous scale, I guess... and the EC500 looks great but should have been like $275 tops. I don't mind that it's not remote-controlled, but they've priced it like it is.

If I had more space (pun not intended but embraced), I'd definitely get 42211. It looks like a nice build and a fun set to play with.

@LEGOFanInPJ said:
"Not sure if there's going to be a version of 42213 released in another colour such as, say, white..."

If the pieces are available in the right color, you just know someone's going to MOC that.

A volvo wheel loader is for long on my wanted list
The Ferrari and Bronco look decent so those are also on my list, when a good discount comes by
The rest I skip due to looks or price

Technic kits are too hard on my hands to build, so these aren’t for me, but I quite like that Lunar Outpost. The variety is fun and I like the colour scheme. The little rover is cute because baaaby and the biggest vehicle is cute because it has a cute face.

I’m happy that Fast & Furious sets are clearly selling well enough for them to make more, because I have a wishlist for the Speed Champions versions (including the Supra that was the previous Technic entry and doesn’t have an SC yet).

@chief7575 said:
"Is that some sort of new technic triangle panel piece on that Volvo excavator? I don't recall ever seeing it before. "

Yes! A 3x3 right triangle, same shape as the 2x2 triangle tile. That will make for some new shaping / color blocking possibilities. :)

There's also a highly specific new mould in the 42214 Lambo, the thin, symmetrical Y-shaped piece in GITD that forms the DRLs.

The only set I think it interesting here is the Volvo wheel loader. It could be the worthy successor to the 8459, which is of course amazing through and through.

However, looking at the picture from the side, I notice that both the actuators originate from the same axis/axle. This makes me doubt the mechanism.

When it comes to wheel loaders, I prefer that the bucket is level while the boom is lowered/raised. This requires some clever geometry which is challenging and rewarding to make. However, it always hinges (heh!) on that the two functions have different originating axes.

With this model, I suspect that the bucket will just keep a constant angle relative to the boom, which I think would be a poor implementation. But perhaps my off-hand analysis here is wrong.

@AustinPowers said:
"Seriously, what is wrong with LEGO Technic?
Well, that EC500 sums it up perfectly.
Totally unnecessary licence to do nothing but drive up the already insane cost, plus form over function to go with it.

Compare it with 8043, which arguably is one of the best Technic sets ever, to see how it's done right.
So glad I have that one. "

Can't agree with you more. Do we know if the infrared components in the 8043 set have a known lifespan? I'm curious, if I manage to get my hands on a new or used 8043, how many years can I realistically expect the remote control functions to keep working?

@linlsw said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"Seriously, what is wrong with LEGO Technic?
Well, that EC500 sums it up perfectly.
Totally unnecessary licence to do nothing but drive up the already insane cost, plus form over function to go with it.

Compare it with 8043, which arguably is one of the best Technic sets ever, to see how it's done right.
So glad I have that one. "

Can't agree with you more. Do we know if the infrared components in the 8043 set have a known lifespan? I'm curious, if I manage to get my hands on a new or used 8043, how many years can I realistically expect the remote control functions to keep working?"

I design electronics for a living.

These PCBs used in toys are usually quite cheap, so I'd expect the solder / PCB to be the limiting factor, not the components. But that can be easily fixed / replaced.

I would not worry about any non-software electronics. Realistic life span of 50 years.

@tomthepirate said:
" @linlsw said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"Seriously, what is wrong with LEGO Technic?
Well, that EC500 sums it up perfectly.
Totally unnecessary licence to do nothing but drive up the already insane cost, plus form over function to go with it.

Compare it with 8043, which arguably is one of the best Technic sets ever, to see how it's done right.
So glad I have that one. "

Can't agree with you more. Do we know if the infrared components in the 8043 set have a known lifespan? I'm curious, if I manage to get my hands on a new or used 8043, how many years can I realistically expect the remote control functions to keep working?"

I design electronics for a living.

These PCBs used in toys are usually quite cheap, so I'd expect the solder / PCB to be the limiting factor, not the components. But that can be easily fixed / replaced.

I would not worry about any non-software electronics. Realistic life span of 50 years."
Indeed. I mean it's infrared sensors. Think about the remote for your TV, Hifi, etc. Those tend to work for decades without issue.
Software otoh, now that's another matter entirely.

@AustinPowers said:
"Seriously, what is wrong with LEGO Technic?
Well, that EC500 sums it up perfectly.
Totally unnecessary licence to do nothing but drive up the already insane cost, plus form over function to go with it.

Compare it with 8043 , which arguably is one of the best Technic sets ever, to see how it's done right.
So glad I have that one. "

My first thought was nice remake. But no remote control is unacceptable at this price point. It would be hard though, as LEGO kind of killed robotics/remote control completely the last few years. I use Spike in the classroom, but I get puke tendencies of it every day. The sofware from LEGO is rubbish, Spike has a weird kindergarten colour scheme and 51515, the last great electronic set was killed.

In my full of expats city the local toystore perfectly shows what the new LEGO policy is: cater rich middle age (asian) men and woman, and sell them big built once showpieces to gather dust. 80% of the store is LEGO big boxes nowadays, and they seem to sell a shitload. The whole idea of mix and match and design your own is gone.

Only 1/8 sets is original. Looks like Technic is cementing itself as a licensed theme. More info about licensed sets and trends: https://youtu.be/u8voUir-IdQ

@AustinPowers said:
" @tomthepirate said:
" @linlsw said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"Seriously, what is wrong with LEGO Technic?
Well, that EC500 sums it up perfectly.
Totally unnecessary licence to do nothing but drive up the already insane cost, plus form over function to go with it.

Compare it with 8043, which arguably is one of the best Technic sets ever, to see how it's done right.
So glad I have that one. "

Can't agree with you more. Do we know if the infrared components in the 8043 set have a known lifespan? I'm curious, if I manage to get my hands on a new or used 8043, how many years can I realistically expect the remote control functions to keep working?"

I design electronics for a living.

These PCBs used in toys are usually quite cheap, so I'd expect the solder / PCB to be the limiting factor, not the components. But that can be easily fixed / replaced.

I would not worry about any non-software electronics. Realistic life span of 50 years."
Indeed. I mean it's infrared sensors. Think about the remote for your TV, Hifi, etc. Those tend to work for decades without issue.
Software otoh, now that's another matter entirely. "

Software will work forever if 1) it is NOT obtained via any app store, 2) you use the OS it was designed for, and 3) it does not require any online components.

@lippidp said:
" @AustinPowers said:
" @tomthepirate said:
" @linlsw said:
" @AustinPowers said:
"Seriously, what is wrong with LEGO Technic?
Well, that EC500 sums it up perfectly.
Totally unnecessary licence to do nothing but drive up the already insane cost, plus form over function to go with it.

Compare it with 8043, which arguably is one of the best Technic sets ever, to see how it's done right.
So glad I have that one. "

Can't agree with you more. Do we know if the infrared components in the 8043 set have a known lifespan? I'm curious, if I manage to get my hands on a new or used 8043, how many years can I realistically expect the remote control functions to keep working?"

I design electronics for a living.

These PCBs used in toys are usually quite cheap, so I'd expect the solder / PCB to be the limiting factor, not the components. But that can be easily fixed / replaced.

I would not worry about any non-software electronics. Realistic life span of 50 years."
Indeed. I mean it's infrared sensors. Think about the remote for your TV, Hifi, etc. Those tend to work for decades without issue.
Software otoh, now that's another matter entirely. "

Software will work forever if 1) it is NOT obtained via any app store, 2) you use the OS it was designed for, and 3) it does not require any online components."
None of which applies to LEGO Software it seems, unfortunately.